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Hearthstone |OT1| New Era, Same Meta
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I love using Nozdormu any chance I can when I get it from Historian or Free from Amber. It's hilarious watching the opponent struggle with their next turn, especially a warlock that is looking for a defile
Thanks for the replies on the last page. So it had to be the 10 pack timer thing. Great feature.
I only play Standard so I went ahead and dusted every card I owned from Gadgetzan, Kharazan, and Old Gods. Ended up with ~5k dust and copped the following:
Kobolds:
2x Call to Arms, I feel like this will get eventually nerfed later this year so it's a safe craft
2x Voidlord
1x Carnivorous Cube to make it 2
1x Spiteful Summoner to make it 2
1x Grand Archivist to mess around with (worth getting another?)
Frozen Throne:
Ultimate Infestation epic, seems broken
Un'Goro:
Sunkeeper Tarim legendary, I did some reading and this is Paladin's best card and since I'll never get another Un'Goro pack it made sense
Vilespin Slayer epic, from what I've played so far this thing is a beast and seems like a Rogue staple, only got one though
From the Mammoth bundle + 7-10 free packs from 'Welcome Back Quests' it seems I lucked out huge:
Got Tyrantus and Pyros from Un'Goro, might dust Tyrantus
Got Gul'Dan and Thrall death knight cards from Throne
Got King's Bane, Skull of the Man'ari, and Rin, the First Disciple from Kobolds
Jesus christ, what a haul. Blizzard just got $50 from me when preorder is up for the next xpac.
btw the discard stuff is still bad, right? Ended up dusting the Warlock discard quest and Clutchmother Zavas. I hope Warlock doesn't get too many more discard cards in the next xpac.
I only play Standard so I went ahead and dusted every card I owned from Gadgetzan, Kharazan, and Old Gods. Ended up with ~5k dust and copped the following:
Kobolds:
2x Call to Arms, I feel like this will get eventually nerfed later this year so it's a safe craft
2x Voidlord
1x Carnivorous Cube to make it 2
1x Spiteful Summoner to make it 2
1x Grand Archivist to mess around with (worth getting another?)
Frozen Throne:
Ultimate Infestation epic, seems broken
Un'Goro:
Sunkeeper Tarim legendary, I did some reading and this is Paladin's best card and since I'll never get another Un'Goro pack it made sense
Vilespin Slayer epic, from what I've played so far this thing is a beast and seems like a Rogue staple, only got one though
From the Mammoth bundle + 7-10 free packs from 'Welcome Back Quests' it seems I lucked out huge:
Got Tyrantus and Pyros from Un'Goro, might dust Tyrantus
Got Gul'Dan and Thrall death knight cards from Throne
Got King's Bane, Skull of the Man'ari, and Rin, the First Disciple from Kobolds
Jesus christ, what a haul. Blizzard just got $50 from me when preorder is up for the next xpac.
btw the discard stuff is still bad, right? Ended up dusting the Warlock discard quest and Clutchmother Zavas. I hope Warlock doesn't get too many more discard cards in the next xpac.
There's so many Frozen Throne cards I want but am really not in the mood to buy a 20 or 40 pack bundle, but may not have another choice:
Deathstalker Rexxar death knight card, just seems really fun to play
Sindragosa, and maybe Frost Lich Jaina
Rotface seems fun, and Scourge Lord Garrosh death knight maybe
Prince Taldaram
Maybe Lich King
That's 7 legs right there. Let's say cut it down a few to 4... that's 6400 dust.
Epics:
2x Obsidian Statue
Maybe another Ultimate Infestation
1 or 2 Doomerang
2x Gnomeferatu
1x Dead Man's Hand, maybe 2
2x Drakkari Enchanter, seems it could be a fun meme card
1x Nerubian Unraveler, more meme
1x Skulking Geist, meme
That's 12 epics max, so let's say you cut out the memes and make it 8... that's 3200 dust.
We're now up to 9600 dust for 4 legs + 8 epics.
Not going to count the uncommons but let's say 8-10 uncommons so the total is around 10,400 dust.
To anyone reading this who's new or maybe started playing a year ago and enjoy it: Don't quit this game for any prolonged period of time because the hole you dig yourself is absolutely impossible to get out of unless you spend a $100 or so. Take note that I got lucky with my pulls from Mammoth and also only play Standard so I was able to get 5k+ dust from Old Gods, Kharazan, and Gadget.
I stopped playing at right after Un'Goro release, which was April 6, 2017, or 9 months ago. Just a 9 month break and you're in an abyss of a hole.
Deathstalker Rexxar death knight card, just seems really fun to play
Sindragosa, and maybe Frost Lich Jaina
Rotface seems fun, and Scourge Lord Garrosh death knight maybe
Prince Taldaram
Maybe Lich King
That's 7 legs right there. Let's say cut it down a few to 4... that's 6400 dust.
Epics:
2x Obsidian Statue
Maybe another Ultimate Infestation
1 or 2 Doomerang
2x Gnomeferatu
1x Dead Man's Hand, maybe 2
2x Drakkari Enchanter, seems it could be a fun meme card
1x Nerubian Unraveler, more meme
1x Skulking Geist, meme
That's 12 epics max, so let's say you cut out the memes and make it 8... that's 3200 dust.
We're now up to 9600 dust for 4 legs + 8 epics.
Not going to count the uncommons but let's say 8-10 uncommons so the total is around 10,400 dust.
To anyone reading this who's new or maybe started playing a year ago and enjoy it: Don't quit this game for any prolonged period of time because the hole you dig yourself is absolutely impossible to get out of unless you spend a $100 or so. Take note that I got lucky with my pulls from Mammoth and also only play Standard so I was able to get 5k+ dust from Old Gods, Kharazan, and Gadget.
I stopped playing at right after Un'Goro release, which was April 6, 2017, or 9 months ago. Just a 9 month break and you're in an abyss of a hole.
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You should hold off on crafting too many of those cards because the meta is going to change completely once the new expansion drops. Maybe just craft the cards for one deck you really want to play for the time being.
I stopped playing when Kharazan was released and came back just around Kobolds release. I was missing a ton of cards but luckily they provided me with a ton of dust and I also disenchanted all my wild cards. I spent zero dollars up till now and somehow still ended up with all the cards I needed to make most decks. I'm missing all the Quest cards and some cards I need for meme decks but its not a big deal. The Mammoth Bundle is actually perfect for me but I didn't really feel the need to buy it, though that might change.
I've since crafted most of the stuff I needed for the meta decks and I'm sitting on nearly 4k gold in preparation for the expansion. Just trying to hit legend for the first time thanks to the new ranked changes and hoping for a Khadgar portrait re-release :P
You're right though. It was tough as hell to get where I am now after not playing for so long but its not impossible. If you're going to make 1 or 2 decks, I'd recommend Spiteful Priest and a Silver Hand or Murloc Paladin right now. Elemental mages always kick my ass late game but I don't run into too many.
Warrior quest is playable, priest and rogue quest see some play
Rogue quest can be playable, and Exodia Mage is a thing in Standard through the quest. I think the rest are trash tier, though.
is rogue gonna still be a thing once patches rotates out soon?
warrior huh? i do have grommash hellscream & scourgelord garrosh ...
warrior huh? i do have grommash hellscream & scourgelord garrosh ...
Warrior quest is off meta but playable. Mage quest is good, that Exodia Mage deck is playable up to legend even with enough practice. Rogue quest is seeing a comeback after the Patches nerf. The rest are either meme decks or completely awful.
The Priest quest is very good in Wild, but really only there.
The Priest quest is very good in Wild, but really only there.
Priest quest is trash in Wild.
I've tried Quest Warrior, and it just can't keep up with the new Paladin decks - dead archetype for now.
Quest Mage sees play but it can get wrecked really easy. Fun deck though
I haven't seen Quest Warrior in a long time, but it probably isn't too bad.... though Paladin might be able to get through all the taunts. I wouldn't call it fun though. The hero power you get is fun, but actually playing the deck is kind of boring.
Quest Rogue still seems like it has very polarizing matchups, but it's fun to play in my opinion. Sucks to play against though.
I still have no idea if Quest Druid is actually decent or not, but it's really fun to play. Might only be good at legend ranks where you see a bunch of weird shit.
Quest Priest is fun, but not that great. I just can't find a consistent win condition.
Shaman, Paladin, Hunter, and Warlock all seem pretty meh to me.
Be a good person and don't play Exodia mage. Worst, least interactive deck to ever exist in hearthstone.
Dirty rat interaction makes it more interactive than freeze mage used to be I think. Only control warrior could out armor them.
I'm not that good with that deck. Need to watch a streamer that has been playing that.
I'm more of a slow/value player so I don't have that much experience with aggro oriented decks.
I'll play almost anything. I like control or midrange slightly more cause aggro can be a bit braindead sometimes, but if I want to knock out some ranks or quests fast I don't mind pulling out an aggro deck.
Exodia Mage and Quest Rogue will both be hit by the Coldlight Oracle HoFing, for Exodia Mage in particular most of the support cards that generate random spells are leaving.
What decklist are you using? I'm using on from tempostorm but I hit a wall with it
oh yeah that too, completely dead.
I can't wait for standard playing wild more just reminded of all the shit I ain't gonna miss in standard.
Member when mage had Ice Block and Reno? Now they also have Jaina
All the highlander stuff that was interesting for like maybe a 2-3 sets is finally going out.
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Wild has all the cards in the game, it doesn't exclude standard cards
renomage in standard which rotated w/ ungoro, in wild they can run jaina too. Could have been clearer w/ my punctiation and post in general.
Jaina really needs a nerf tbh. It's damn near impossible to make a comeback once its popped. Maybe make it something like "if you hero power kills a minion, someone a random elemental and gain armor equal to its attack" and get rid of the lifesteal.
Guldan isn't nearly as bad but that lifesteal is pretty OP too on top of resummoning all the demons
Guldan isn't nearly as bad but that lifesteal is pretty OP too on top of resummoning all the demons
Honestly just removing the lifesteal would be enough of a nerf while still keeping it roughly as strong as the other death knights. Summoning a water elemental when you kill something with a ping is still really strong on its own.
That's funny, my opinion is the opposite. I look at Jaina and think the hero power should freeze the target or something because it's so weak compared to Gul'dan.
Yeah, but it's the kind of deck you are grateful to see...
Just something I ripped off HSReplay I think:
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### Call to Arms
# Class: Paladin
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Mammoth
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# 2x (1) Argent Squire
# 2x (1) Lost in the Jungle
# 2x (1) Righteous Protector
# 2x (2) Dire Wolf Alpha
# 1x (2) Drygulch Jailor
# 1x (2) Equality
# 2x (2) Knife Juggler
# 2x (3) Divine Favor
# 2x (3) Rallying Blade
# 2x (3) Steward of Darkshire
# 1x (3) Unidentified Maul
# 2x (4) Call to Arms
# 2x (4) Lightfused Stegodon
# 1x (5) Level Up!
# 2x (5) Stand Against Darkness
# 2x (6) Crystal Lion
# 1x (6) Sunkeeper Tarim
# 1x (7) Vinecleaver
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# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in HearthstoneI don't think Jaina is OP, Renomage w/ Jaina is just not something I got time for playing HS.
Shit, I feel WAY more helpless against Guldan than Jaina. There's times when I'm just hoping that the opponent doesn't play Guldan because I know if I can't finish him on my next turn that I probably lost. I rarely ever feel that way about Jaina.
And I don't know about your suggestion... adding more rng shit is rarely ever a good idea. Just leads to more frustration. I mean I'm cool with some rng, but not that kind.
I'm watching a low ranked streamer play mill rogue and it really shows how different skilled players like ryzen run mill and lesser players. It's a huge gap imo.
Mill Rogue definitely has a huge skill ceiling. I know people who play it to legend every month, but I can't even hit rank 5...it's a goal of mine!
Are you and Dahbomb still playing HotS regularly? I've been craving some lately.
Control Mage vs. my Fatigue Warrior is one of my favorite experiences.
Ugh, this game really knows how to suck the fun out of everything. I seriously cannot wait for Ice Block to get banned. Just played a mage who only won because he got Ice Block off a Ruby Spellstone that hadn't been activated even once.
Kind of a dick move from the game to decide it's fair my opponent is allowed to play three Ice Blocks in one game.
Kind of a dick move from the game to decide it's fair my opponent is allowed to play three Ice Blocks in one game.
Did I really type someone instead of summon haha.
Yeah, I personally feel Jaina is the strongest of all the DK cards aside from the original prenerf Anduin.
Guldan never really gives me too much trouble but that might just be because of the types of decks I play.
Yeah, I personally feel Jaina is the strongest of all the DK cards aside from the original prenerf Anduin.
Guldan never really gives me too much trouble but that might just be because of the types of decks I play.
I can't remember when it was, but I rage quit the first time it happened to me. I cant remember what expansion it was, but the mage got a third ice block after I played around the first two and beat me and I had just had enough. Good to see its being phased out. I remember being so mad that the guy was like impervious to death for so many turns that game and still got to win because of an rng skill giving him a third one.
That Random Mage archetype is pure shit . Not able to play around anything or playing around 3-4 Iceblock is something that made me quit Hearthstone for a long time. I know Blizzard/Team 5 loves their wow/surprise factor so I'm not optimistic that it won't come back again.
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