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Omar310

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Oct 27, 2017
1,704
UK
Jesus Christ, I didn't realize just how fast Azure Rathalos attacks in World until I tried fighting him without Flash Bombs in the Arena (I didn't realize they gave you 3 flash bombs until the end of the quest). Never again. I can't even imagine how fast he will be in G-Rank.
It probably won't be.
Silver, on the other hand...
 

panama chief

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,056
After making every hammer and long sword, I was ready to walk away. My jewel and stone luck is pure trash so why keep going? Before stepping away I wanted to learn how to use at least 1 ranged weapon so I picked up a bow.

MY GOD ITS AWESOME!! I went with the diablos dragon piercer build that gaijin hunter has up. Ran it all weakend, using it to learn how to be a better hunter. Just about an hour ago I learned about stunlocking monsters with arc shot and stamina drain. I need to know more about the weapon. Anyone using any funky builds?
 

Hyun Sai

Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,562
I saw the Gathering Hub change in the patch note, but I don't see me using this, like at all. Unless they put all the options of the main town in the Gathering Hub, I don't see the point outside of Arena Quests (very poorly implemented by the way).
 

ClearMetal

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,328
the Netherlands
Tempered Diablos is more difficult than tempered elder dragons. It wrecked me. You really can't afford to get hit even once.

Rockstedy is both a blessing and a curse
I think I get what you mean. Just wore it against tempered Diablos and the complete lack of knockback and similar effects is nice, but it also makes you think you're not taking damage while you very much are.

Bazel stuff looks ugly???? That's the worst opinion I've heard in a while. The lion themed helmet specifically looks sick as hell

That's the kinda quest where I can't trust anyone but myself with. I think I would constantly be stressed for the other hunters to perform well

You should check the previous version of it. I think I preferred the older version by just a bit:

Not bad, but I like the World version better. The older version sounds more repetitive, perhaps due to the loud beat.

While I love Bazel gear in general, I actually think the helmet looks kind of shitty. The female version at least, I don't know how the male one looks.
 

The Heape

Member
Oct 27, 2017
242
After making every hammer and long sword, I was ready to walk away. My jewel and stone luck is pure trash so why keep going? Before stepping away I wanted to learn how to use at least 1 ranged weapon so I picked up a bow.

MY GOD ITS AWESOME!! I went with the diablos dragon piercer build that gaijin hunter has up. Ran it all weakend, using it to learn how to be a better hunter. Just about an hour ago I learned about stunlocking monsters with arc shot and stamina drain. I need to know more about the weapon. Anyone using any funky builds?
I made a status effect build with a focus on blast.

Great Hunters Bow - Physique Jewel 2
Dragonking Eyepatch Alpha - Mighty Bow Jewel 2
Zorah Hide Beta - Refresh Jewel 2
Kaiser Vambraces Beta - Refresh Jewel 2
Zorah Spine Beta - Refresh Jewel 2
Zorah Spurs Beta - Blast Jewel 1
Fitness Charm

Throw on the apocarthy mantle and and the blast coating and you can get 3-4 blasts of before you run out then sleep or paralysis and plant bombs that will also be boosted and you still have some poison left over.
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
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Oct 24, 2017
34,402
Have you done HR Kirin before? (Non-tempered) You could always practice on him.
You can't do HR Kirin before doing Tempered Kirin. lol. It's pretty dumb. Clearing tempered Kirin unlocks the HR quest, which is then piss-easy. Unless there was another way to do HR Kirin before that? I couldn't see it.

I got tempered Kirin on my first try. Carted only once and it wasn't even lightning, but the charge move haha. I underestimated the damage (tempered, yeah... oops). I was overprepared for the lightning: rotationg lightning and vitality mantles, thunder resist gem+3, full stun resist, paralysis resist (I think at +2 or +3, I forgot), used a bow to kite as safely as possible and sleep bombed him 3x (including when he retreated to sleep). Took forever, but it was safe at least.

Then I did the HR one with my hammer and just rekt him in a few minutes. lol >_<
 

Guppeth

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,849
Sheffield, UK
You can't do HR Kirin before doing Tempered Kirin. lol. It's pretty dumb. Clearing tempered Kirin unlocks the HR quest, which is then piss-easy. Unless there was another way to do HR Kirin before that? I couldn't see it.

I got tempered Kirin on my first try. Carted only once and it wasn't even lightning, but the charge move haha. I underestimated the damage (tempered, yeah... oops). I was overprepared for the lightning: rotationg lightning and vitality mantles, thunder resist gem+3, full stun resist, paralysis resist (I think at +2 or +3, I forgot), used a bow to kite as safely as possible and sleep bombed him 3x (including when he retreated to sleep). Took forever, but it was safe at least.

Then I did the HR one with my hammer and just rekt him in a few minutes. lol >_<
I did HR Kirin before Tempered. I try to complete every side quest before advancing the story.

I didn't find Tempered difficult, but I was overprepared too. Over 50 lightning resist and a maxed out Odoragon glaive.
 

Tapeworm

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
898
Is there a good infographic out there showing which species the different monsters fit into? I never know which is bird vs fang vs brute, etc.
 

ClearMetal

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Oct 25, 2017
15,328
the Netherlands
You can't do HR Kirin before doing Tempered Kirin. lol. It's pretty dumb. Clearing tempered Kirin unlocks the HR quest, which is then piss-easy. Unless there was another way to do HR Kirin before that? I couldn't see it.
You could. The two Kirin quests are tied to the biological research team. I'm not sure exactly which conditions have to be met to unlock the HR one, but I unlocked it way before I got to HR49 (though after the final boss). The quest was given by the impatient biologist (the short, old wyverian at the table in Astera, near the tree).

I'm not near my PS4 at the moment so I can't check, but are there any optional quests with a speech bubble in front of them you haven't done yet? The quest text should also be by one of the biologists.

Though I guess it's a moot point now.
 

Omar310

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Oct 27, 2017
1,704
UK
Tempered Diablos is more difficult than tempered elder dragons. It wrecked me. You really can't afford to get hit even once.


I think I get what you mean. Just wore it against tempered Diablos and the complete lack of knockback and similar effects is nice, but it also makes you think you're not taking damage while you very much are.


Not bad, but I like the World version better. The older version sounds more repetitive, perhaps due to the loud beat.

While I love Bazel gear in general, I actually think the helmet looks kind of shitty. The female version at least, I don't know how the male one looks.
And I have no idea how the female one looks lol. Guess I shouldn't have just assumed you were on about the male version.
 

rusty chrome

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Oct 25, 2017
8,640
First time seeing a turf war between Nergigante and Kushala Daora (or Nergigante and anything, really), and what does Nergigante do? Not only wrecks him instantly but then launches Kushala's body directly at me lol! Was cool.
 

Tenjin

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Dec 3, 2017
472
First time seeing a turf war between Nergigante and Kushala Daora (or Nergigante and anything, really), and what does Nergigante do? Not only wrecks him instantly but then launches Kushala's body directly at me lol! Was cool.

When did this occur? How long was your quest ongoing? I did not see a elder turf war in 300h ...
 

rusty chrome

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Oct 25, 2017
8,640
When did this occur? How long was your quest ongoing? I did not see a elder turf war in 300h ...
Yeah I didn't think it was possible to see a turf war between elders. Wasn't going on long, maybe 10 mins? I noticed some shadows coming in and knew they couldn't be Nergigante's, then turf war notice came up, then they start fighting. I usually solo him because it's faster for me, but this time I was with other players, and it happened. I have like 110 hours.

Every player I was with just backed up real quick thinking we were gonna have to fight them both now.

 
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Tenjin

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Dec 3, 2017
472
Yeah I didn't think it was possible to see a turf war between elders. Wasn't going on long, maybe 10 mins? I noticed some shadows coming in and knew they couldn't be Nergigante's, then turf war notice came up, then they start fighting. I usually solo him because it's faster for me, but this time I was with other players, and it happened. I have like 110 hours.

Every player I was with just backed up real quick thinking we were gonna have to fight them both now.



Nice. And it was a nergigante quest? Damn, silly Kushala :D
 

Snormy

I'll think about it
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Oct 25, 2017
5,131
Morizora's Forest
Why does it take forever to kill anythung with a bow?

It takes forever to kill anything no matter the weapon if you're not using it effectively. Some possible reasons for low damage might be
Not hitting the right areas
Not using coatings
Being out of range (I see this all the time in multiplayer)
Not using charged shots (dodge charge or combo fire charge as well as just regular charging)
Taking the wrong bow into the fight (bad match up with element for example)

I would argue bows are one of the most over powered weapons. Very mobile, high damage, easy to target areas for breaking parts and just relatively safe to use unless you spam dragon piercer.
 
Oct 28, 2017
3,727
It takes forever to kill anything no matter the weapon if you're not using it effectively. Some possible reasons for low damage might be
Not hitting the right areas
Not using coatings
Being out of range (I see this all the time in multiplayer)
Not using charged shots (dodge charge or combo fire charge as well as just regular charging)
Taking the wrong bow into the fight (bad match up with element for example)

I would argue bows are one of the most over powered weapons. Very mobile, high damage, easy to target areas for breaking parts and just relatively safe to use unless you spam dragon piercer.

I mean, I get how the bow works. It just kind of.. feels super weak compared to LBG.
 

Recall

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Oct 27, 2017
445
I'm having a hard time with a story quest.

I have to discover all the monsters in the everstream before finding Negigante.

Do I have to kill them too to count as discovering th because I just don't have the resources for what keeps turning into a 2 hour expedition? So I return from expedition and seemingly have to repeat it all over again...

I assume I'm supposed to just see a monster then run away but it's a vague description so have no idea. Thanks
 

Coyote Starrk

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
53,241
FINALLY BEAT TEMPERED KIRIN


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Tenjin

Member
Dec 3, 2017
472
Okay, something I never saw before ... I was in a great hunting investigation (tempered Uragaan, Bazel and Azure Los) when suddenly I saw something strange in the vicinity ...




I'm glad I have the trophy already :D
 

panama chief

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,056
I made a status effect build with a focus on blast.

Great Hunters Bow - Physique Jewel 2
Dragonking Eyepatch Alpha - Mighty Bow Jewel 2
Zorah Hide Beta - Refresh Jewel 2
Kaiser Vambraces Beta - Refresh Jewel 2
Zorah Spine Beta - Refresh Jewel 2
Zorah Spurs Beta - Blast Jewel 1
Fitness Charm

Throw on the apocarthy mantle and and the blast coating and you can get 3-4 blasts of before you run out then sleep or paralysis and plant bombs that will also be boosted and you still have some poison left over.

This looks good! Thanks! If I ever see refresh, physique, or mighty bow jewel, I'm making the build. I'm a fan of status infliction.
 
Oct 26, 2017
3,946
Gunlance is definitely NOT a turtle weapon lol


Its one of the highest DPS weapons in the game when used properly.

I'd say neither are a turtle weapon. I'm down there jabbing monsters constantly with the lance while everyone else runs away. And while everyone jogs over to the monster I'm charging with the lance and mounting it. Gunlance feels a lot slower to me, but the smash-full burst-wide sweep-fast reload and repeat combo is amazing. My problem is I currently don't have a Rarity 8 in either weapon to use a hero stone on.
 

Coyote Starrk

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
53,241
I'd say neither are a turtle weapon. I'm down there jabbing monsters constantly with the lance while everyone else runs away. And while everyone jogs over to the monster I'm charging with the lance and mounting it. Gunlance feels a lot slower to me, but the smash-full burst-wide sweep-fast reload and repeat combo is amazing. My problem is I currently don't have a Rarity 8 in either weapon to use a hero stone on.

People calling them turtle weapons probably have never played either.

Fight me.

For the record I don't consider either "Turtle" weapons, but of the two the Gunlance is obviously more offense based so I singled it out over the Lance.


The Lance is just as defensive though as the Gunlance is offensive. You just get into their shit and never fucking leave. Their face is your new home.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,132
Taiwan
Well, I wouldn't really consider either a defensive weapon. Nothing like countering straight into a tail cut.

With both you stay in their face and stab, never leaving them. Though, I haven't tried too much of the GL but that weapon sharpness killed a lot of my up time.
 

Seijuro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,858
I'm having a hard time with a story quest.

I have to discover all the monsters in the everstream before finding Negigante.

Do I have to kill them too to count as discovering th because I just don't have the resources for what keeps turning into a 2 hour expedition? So I return from expedition and seemingly have to repeat it all over again...

I assume I'm supposed to just see a monster then run away but it's a vague description so have no idea. Thanks
Scout them, run away until the game tells you otherwise.
 

Coyote Starrk

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
53,241
Well, I wouldn't really consider either a defensive weapon. Nothing like countering straight into a tail cut.

With both you stay in their face and stab, never leaving them. Though, I haven't tried too much of the GL but that weapon sharpness killed a lot of my up time.

Its cake once you get some Handicraft + Grinder gems. Infinite uptime pretty much.
 

Tenjin

Member
Dec 3, 2017
472
Bait taken I guess? :D

Lance is not my kind of weapon, but I know about it's power (although headlocking died a long time ago ...).
 

Boogalogist

Member
Oct 25, 2017
704
Don't be. It takes a lot of skill and familiarity with monsters to do the counters. Basically, never a defensive moment.
 

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Been too busy to play the last week but I'll try and get a few hours in today. Still have two more elder dragons to kill.
 

Number45

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,038
Finally got the bow charge plus decoration! ^_^

Just need power and normal shots and I should have a little flexibility in my load outs.
 

GameShrink

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
2,680
I can already guess the answer, but I'll ask anyway: If you want to switch your streamstone augments, do you lose the resources you spent on the ones you're swapping out?

Because I think I might have just wasted 2 Lance warrior stones on the attack boost when Regen fits my build much better.
 

Hyun Sai

Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,562
I can already guess the answer, but I'll ask anyway: If you want to switch your streamstone augments, do you lose the resources you spent on the ones you're swapping out?

Because I think I might have just wasted 2 Lance warrior stones on the attack boost when Regen fits my build much better.
Yeah, you lost them.

I've got several friends afraid of using their hero stone by fear of fucking up ah ah ah.
 

IvorB

Member
Oct 28, 2017
2,995
thing about monsters that moves alot and weap that does sm dmg but fast atk motion is that you dont get alot of uptime for the amount of time its actually standing still for you to hit. which makes certain weap that just need 1 short moment to deal 1 yuuuge blow more advantageous ( ie. GS).
buy yea, any wrap that does mote dmg per hit and only need 1 short moment to do so is quite nice.

Yeah monster mobility is super high in this and that needs to be taken into account. Think I'm done with dual blades anyway since sword and shield is more fun.

Just over 60 hours in and arrived at high rank. Dressed like a Tolkien elf at the moment unfortunately but at least my cat is looking correct:

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