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xrnzaaas

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,125
I don't know what to think of this movie, there were some parts that liked (especially the visuals), some that I found to be bad, some didn't quite understand. I'll rewatch it if I'll find time for it.
 

Batatina

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,270
Edinburgh, UK
I found the movie very disappointing. It has an interesting premise, but played out like any horror movie with characters dying bit by bit in unsatisfying ways. The finale was overplayed, focusing on the duplicates when that was the least interesting part of the genetic manipulation. A bit of blood entering that strange vortex (which I found mesmerizing) could have create a new creature, something grand, instead of that bad cgi dancer.

I just felt it missed the potential cosmic horror angle and became a standard (and a bit pointless) story, where it all wraps in a "kill the core and the rest will die with it" manner.
 

ced

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,763
The last bit of this movie at the lighthouse was unsettling, the music really did me in.
 

Truant

Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,761
Listening to the soundtrack now. "The Alien" track is something else. Never really heard anything like it.
 

AHA-Lambda

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,813
What the hell did I just watch?

It may not be the popular thing to say but I did not like this; it just left me bored and confused.
 

geomon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,007
Miami, FL
Watched this yesterday and I'm still trying to figure out how I feel about it. I know I liked parts of it (the bear was fucking creepy) but I think I need to watch it again to see how I feel about it as a whole.
 

Geido

Member
Oct 30, 2017
1,097
Just saw it on Netflix, very good movie, although it falls apart a bit at the end.

The premise reminded me of stalker, the music of The Last of Us and the entire atmosphere was pretty lovecraftian. A good combination.

I also loved that the some of the mutations were very pretty. The pokemon-like deer, the funghi growing everywhere and the crystal (glass/salt) trees looked great. I think it shows a more balanced approach the whole cosmic horror thing. The universe is vast and incromprehensible and the human mind sometimes views something as beautiful or as horrific, but that doesn't matter one bit. It's still what it is.
 

zeitheist

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
189
I dunno, they made stuff bleed even without a man. Schwarzenegger wouldn't really had fit in this at all.
Blasphemy! It would have been awesome. A totally different movie but still awesome. Imagine this guy hunting weird creatures like that bear for 2 hours:
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Ripley from Alien would have been awesome too in the shimmer.

The soundtrack is as crazy as the movie. Love this song:
 

Budi

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,883
Finland
Blasphemy! It would have been awesome. A totally different movie but still awesome. Imagine this guy hunting weird creatures like that bear for 2 hours:

Ripley from Alien would have been awesome too in the shimmer.

The soundtrack is as crazy as the movie. Love this song:
Oh for sure! I understand what you mean. Predator is great.
 

Dennie Dee

Member
Oct 26, 2017
921
Bruges, Belgium
Seen it on NF here in Belgium. Really, really liked it. Still thinking about it two days later.

Was disappointed with the visual effects. I found them to be all over the place and inconsistent.
 
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Heckler456

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,256
Belgium
Just saw it on Netflix. Was really awesome and thought provoking at times. Very reminiscent of Arrival (which is a good thing), and some of the visuals really reminded me TLOU as well. Some scenes like the worms scene and both bear scenes really made me sit at the edge of my seat as well.
 

misho8723

Member
Jan 7, 2018
3,720
Slovakia
Seen the movie.. really liked it.. worse part in my opinion were the visual effects - not all of them, the nature and living things in the area were pretty great but some others, not so much..
Loved the themes behind the story-- at first I was confused about the one subplot, but when I though about it, it made sense to have it in the movie
I have one question though - how can the "thing" mimic clothes? Living things I know how, but how can it replicate textiles

And I have seen probably all good or high rated horror movies from the past decade but nothing, nothing can come close to the bear scene that is in this movie - it has brutal tension, the design of the "bear monster" is fucking scary and unique and the whole idea behind that is wicked and just sick - love it..
It even has a sorta human skull looking piece on, which looks fantastically horrifying
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shikamaroooo

Member
Oct 27, 2017
211
Watched this on Netflix last night and enjoyed it. Last bit of the movie was giving me chills, but I enjoyed it.
 

Einchy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
42,659
A bit off-topic but this movie made me realized I'm a huge fan of media where the environment is the enemy, specifically when characters have to go into it. Aside from this, Stalker and Made in Abyss, what are some other ones? Those are the 3 that I'm watched and have enjoyed because the premise of an area that's dangerous for mysterious reasons.
 

Fuu

Teyvat Traveler
Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,361
It showed up on Netflix in several countries on March 12.

I believe it's only releasing in theaters on the US and China, everywhere else it's Netflix.
 

Anton Sugar

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,946
A bit off-topic but this movie made me realized I'm a huge fan of media where the environment is the enemy, specifically when characters have to go into it. Aside from this, Stalker and Made in Abyss, what are some other ones? Those are the 3 that I'm watched and have enjoyed because the premise of an area that's dangerous for mysterious reasons.

Sunshine for the first two acts.
 

Border

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
14,859
I wish they'd just throw this up on the USA Netflix. It's not like the film's theatrical run is going to rake in any more money.

I would like to watch the ending again, but without having to sit through the first 75 minutes.
 

excelsiorlef

Bad Praxis
Member
Oct 25, 2017
73,330
The grenade ending stuck out to me like it was in huge 100pt Impact font. Here's this meticulously crafted and paced movie by a director who clearly knows what he's doing and suddenly the entire existential, unknowable threat is wiped out in an instant like a videogame mini-boss.

The fact that afterwords you see that Kane and Lena are clearly altered by the Shimmer I think makes it pretty clear that she's been spinning an unreliable tale and it's impossible to know what exactly went down in the Shimmer at all. If the explosive ending seemed extremely contrived and tidy, it's because it was.

I don't know if this reading exactly imparts "sentience" or "motivation" onto the Shimmer, but I think "it's" clearly being deceptive with the G-Men for some unknown reason.

Fuckin cool movie.

Scientists confirm the shimmer is gone and ash is all that's left.
 

Rufio

Member
Oct 27, 2017
395
That was superb. Genuine sense of dread but also wonder, really amazing set design & attention to detail, good-to-great performances and an incredible finale & denouement.

I feel like we're in a small golden age for high concept SF in filmmaking atm. While they all have flaws, I've greatly enjoyed over the last few years:

Source Code
Looper
Interstellar
Coherence (if you haven't seen it, it's on Netflix & is spooky AF)
Arrival
BR2049
Annihilation
Europa Report
Moon
Ex Machina

There's been some great B-movies like ARQ & Kill Command too.

Good time to be into SF that doesn't do too much handholding, even if it does put people off.

Is coherence not on US netflix? I searched and couldnt find it. Loved all the rest of your list though.
 

Praxis

Sausage Tycoon
Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,250
UK
Just watched this and thought it was great. Nice to see some good old fashioned sci-fi getting made.
 

cervanky

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,296
The film direction is inelegant as fuck. It kinda fits Netflix though.
I agree. Some of the sets and practical effects were cool (like in the pool) but it did feel distractingly cheap sometimes because of the direction.

A video game from 2007:
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The good stuff:
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I think that's a fair comparison since this movie was basically an action packed Stalker, whether the filmmakers admit to it or not.
 

SJRB

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
4,861
Man I loved this movie. Its concept is horrifying, and I really enjoyed the design of the world. The Shimmer looked amazing, and all the bizarre visuals were aces. I also loved the audio work, really well done.

The mutated bear, the swimming pool and the video sequence where they cut open the guy were all completely fucked up.

Some of the scenes were pretty corny [like the one mentioned earlier on this page], but still. Really enjoyed it.
 

Anton Sugar

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,946
I think some of the green screen work/compositing, particularly early on, is a bit shoddy, but the color and flares inside of Area X were created optically. They shone lights at the camera lens and shot colored lighting into the light shafts/tree canopy.

The ASC mag has an article on their site you can read for more info.
 
Nov 14, 2017
2,335
A lot of the set design & camerawork reminded me of S1 of True Detective.
One of the first things that came to mind after I saw the film was this scene:

That scene stuck with me in general so I'm not sure if the similarities were more general and my mind just went to that one by default, but I feel there are some thematic similarities also.
 

hydruxo

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 25, 2017
20,454
I found the movie very disappointing. It has an interesting premise, but played out like any horror movie with characters dying bit by bit in unsatisfying ways. The finale was overplayed, focusing on the duplicates when that was the least interesting part of the genetic manipulation. A bit of blood entering that strange vortex (which I found mesmerizing) could have create a new creature, something grand, instead of that bad cgi dancer.

I just felt it missed the potential cosmic horror angle and became a standard (and a bit pointless) story, where it all wraps in a "kill the core and the rest will die with it" manner.

The rest didn't die with it though. The core is gone, but the Kane clone is still alive.
 

Rodney McKay

Member
Oct 26, 2017
12,220
Just saw this today and really enjoyed it.

Kinda wish they'd gone a bit further with the DNA transforming stuff with the other characters instead of just having then go a little crazy, get mauled, or grow some plant stuff out of them. Would have been trippy to see that exploded dude transform live or have something similar happen to one if the main characters. Something like that dude transforming into the lobster alien in District 9 but even weirder.
Probably a limitation of the budget or something, but still would have been cool. Maybe I'll check out the book if it goes further than the movie does with stuff like that.

But the finale in the lighthouse was pretty incredible. Not 100% sure what happened with the psychologist team leader regurgitating the lifeform (maybe it was trying to communicate through her or something), but the vortex/engine/thingy itself was wild (wish we'd gotten to see more of it), and the duplicate monster along with the music was really amazing.

And at the end, her husband is obviously a duplicate (based on the video in the lighthouse and his personality change), but Portman's character is still herself right? Her eyes just also did the color change thing because she's just been altered by the shimmer? Or were they all duplicates early on when they lost track of time when they woke up in their tents and had apparently been in there for days with no memory of it? Or was that just their brains going wonky from the shimmer?

So many questions!
 

Xagarath

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,142
North-East England
I enjoyed this! Garland is definitely reaching for (and often successfully channeling) that Tarkovsky/Kubrick otherworldly vibe.
Not as apocalyptic as the book (and I was disappointed not to see someone try to render the Tower onscreen) but it captures the alien strangeness and existential dread of Area X very well.
 

Dracon

Member
Oct 27, 2017
348
Can someone explain to me what is to understand about Lena's tattoo?

It wasnt there at the beginning and is the same one from that paramedic girl.

The duplicate stuff in the end really obfuscated the light, genes and cells interpolations.
 

Einchy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
42,659
Can someone explain to me what is to understand about Lena's tattoo?

It wasnt there at the beginning and is the same one from that paramedic girl.

The duplicate stuff in the end really obfuscated the light, genes and cells interpolations.
I think it's a visual cue to show how they're all being changed and they're DNA is being spread through the Shimmer. That tattoo didn't even belong to the paramedic girl since it's seen on the guy who got cut up by Kane.