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Have you gotten the platinum in any Kingdom Hearts games?

  • Yes! All of them!

    Votes: 42 7.6%
  • I got a few. Or one.

    Votes: 143 25.8%
  • No, but I got all the Secret Endings.

    Votes: 115 20.8%
  • LOL.

    Votes: 254 45.8%

  • Total voters
    554

Voltt

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,499
I would like to see remakes of Days and Coded at some point. I get why they aren't on the collections, but it kind of sad seeing them shafted like that.

Especially when CoM gets to be in.
 

ZeoVGM

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Oct 25, 2017
76,219
Providence, RI
Would you take it even if it meant a 1-2 year delay for KH3? :)

N... no.

No, I would not.

But I would buy a Days + Re:coded remake collection.

I would like to see remakes of Days and Coded at some point. I get why they aren't on the collections, but it kind of sad seeing them shafted like that.

Especially when CoM gets to be in.

To be fair, CoM is simply an HD remaster of a PS2 game (that was a remake of a GBA game).

They can't simply remaster Days and Re:coded as they're original DS games. They would need to fully remake them. I don't think it would be that crazy of an undertaking because they can reuse PS2/HD ReMix assets but that's a lot more work than simply remastering CoM.
 

Voltt

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,499
I understand the reasoning behind it, and they're obviously going to put an already completed game in the collection over something they have to make from scratch. I just was talking purely on my opinions of those games.
 

Chaserjoey

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,638
I was literally about to bitch about the Barrel Spider card in Re:CoM but then it dropped. Happy days! 16/30! Over half way there :D
 

Z-Beat

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
31,857
99% journal completion for kh2fm. It's the synthesis though and I already unlocked the BBS movie through gold crown Critical so I'll continue on with Ventus Proud Mode run
 

Papertoonz

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,263
Just finished Sora and Riku campaigns in ReChain

time to start that grind for the plat, god i hope some of your guys luck rubs off on me
 
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malyse

malyse

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Yeah but they weren't gonna let all the work they put into Re: CoM go to waste, and it's less of a KH1 redo than Coded is
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That's a terrible take. Re:Coded changes gameplay from world to world, what with run and gun, turn based battles, and everything else it does. It's the most ambitious KH has ever been from a gameplay perspective. CoM has all of four relevant worlds in the entire game: Traverse Town, Destiny Islands, Twilight Town, and Castle Oblivion itself. Literally everything else is a redo with worst gameplay.
 

Z-Beat

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
31,857
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That's a terrible take. Re:Coded changes gameplay from world to world, what with run and gun, turn based battles, and everything else it does. It's the most ambitious KH has ever been from a gameplay perspective. CoM has all of four relevant worlds in the entire game: Traverse Town, Destiny Islands, Twilight Town, and Castle Oblivion itself. Literally everything else is a redo with worst gameplay.

It's so irrelevant as a redo that you could skip it and lose virtually nothing
 
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malyse

malyse

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The debate wasn't whether or not it should be, it was why we got CoM instead of Coded or 358/2
SE liberally reuses assets to resell the same game over and over. Everyone knows this.

And I was only addressing your terrible take that Re:Coded was more of a KH1 redo than CoM when that's false. Re:Coded does a lot more than any other retread simply by offering gameplay innovation, something that literally no other series game does. KH1 plays like KH2 plays like BBS plays like DDD plays like CoM plays like Days. The core mechanics of run dodge jump block attack in an action oriented 3D space is the same in each game, with each throwing in deviance like the Command Deck, Sleights, and Limit Breaks. Re:Coded throws in worlds that patently don't work that way. There's a platformer, a rail shooter, and a turn based battle.
 

Z-Beat

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
31,857
SE liberally reuses assets to resell the same game over and over. Everyone knows this.

And I was only addressing your terrible take that Re:Coded was more of a KH1 redo than CoM when that's false. Re:Coded does a lot more than any other retread simply by offering gameplay innovation, something that literally no other series game does. KH1 plays like KH2 plays like BBS plays like DDD plays like CoM plays like Days. The core mechanics of run dodge jump block attack in an action oriented 3D space is the same in each game, with each throwing in deviance like the Command Deck, Sleights, and Limit Breaks. Re:Coded throws in worlds that patently don't work that way. There's a platformer, a rail shooter, and a turn based battle.

There's more contrast between CoM and KH1's story than Coded and KH1
 

Napalm_Frank

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
5,735
Finland
Well, the only reason CoM was playable in 1.5 anyway is because it was already a PS2 3D game that only needed a resolution bump and they could call it a day. If Re:CoM didn't exist it would have been a movie (and would probably have resulted in the games being switched up a bit like 2 being in the first collection and BBS+DDD being the main meat of second).

I don't think we will ever see remakes of Days or Coded (second remake anyway), that is not to say they won't try to take notes of Re:Coded for a new game with focus on variety.

Anyway, I don't really have any major issue with this stuff. I like CoM and Re:CoM gameplay enough not to be bothered with blatant Disney filler and I haven't even played Re:Coded to really be bothered with what we could have had in form of a remake. I think one reason Coded gets especially bad rep is that it was the second time they did the ''KH1 rehash'' when it came to worlds and kid sora and all that.
 

Voltt

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,499
I don't think we will ever see remakes of Days or Coded (second remake anyway), that is not to say they won't try to take notes of Re:Coded for a new game with focus on variety.

I don't know about that. They sold about as well as CoM did. Especially since those games reuse so much from 1 and 2 anyway.
 

Napalm_Frank

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
5,735
Finland
I don't know about that. They sold about as well as CoM did. Especially since those games reuse so much from 1 and 2 anyway.
I feel like the time for remaking either of them is kinda in the past. Re:CoM happened in tandem with 2FM and while 2 was relatively new game. After 3 is released I don't know if they are interested (or the audience for that matter) in dipping back rather than looking forward. If there ever would have been remakes they would have already happened is what I'm saying.

From the two Days certainly is much more likely candidate but even then I don't think it'll happen. Roxas and Xion will be back in 3 and they can just make another game for them if they feel like it.
 

Z-Beat

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
31,857

when he disappears and starts doin the ground spike that lets you get learn, dodge and then hammer triangle as fast as possible to build them up. Then when he's finished dump it all on him. This applies to a lot of his regular moves too sine they all allow you to get learn about half a second before he attacks. It's a good command for both interrupting/inflicting damage and dodging his attacks. The when he does the beam desperation move you can dodge roll through it. Your other party members are probably gonna be death throughout the majority of the fight since it's heavily dodge reliant.

And yeah don't attack him when Aero is up and don't rely on a Mickey 2nd chance.

Anyway, I don't really have any major issue with this stuff. I like CoM and Re:CoM gameplay enough not to be bothered with blatant Disney filler and I haven't even played Re:Coded to really be bothered with what we could have had in form of a remake. I think one reason Coded gets especially bad rep is that it was the second time they did the ''KH1 rehash'' when it came to worlds and kid sora and all that.

That and it was a cellphone game turned DS game and most people were like "nah." At the very least it wasn't on the level of maximum tedium that 358/2 was.
 

Deleted member 30681

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to add onto the earlier discussion about remakes, I would love to know how long it took them to remake CoM on PS2.

Granted they reused a lot of assets from KH1, but that doesn't mean they couldn't reuse assets in a hypothetical 358/2 or re:coded remake.
 

Macca

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,257
to add onto the earlier discussion about remakes, I would love to know how long it took them to remake CoM on PS2.

Granted they reused a lot of assets from KH1, but that doesn't mean they couldn't reuse assets in a hypothetical 358/2 or re:coded remake.

Probably a lot cheaper and quicker to do it during the PS2 era.
 

Chaserjoey

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,638
Yeah, being able to share assets sped things up a bit back in the PS2 / PSP days.

Now they had to start from scratch in KH3 with every single model and asset. What a shame, but the end results look so good so the five year wait has been worth it :)
 

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KH3 is easily one of the best looking games this gen easily, so they've done an incredible job, but I imagine it took quite sometime for them to adjust to a new engine, while also developing a game for new consoles given that they skipped out entirely on last gen if we don't count the remasters they released towards the end of the 7th gen.
 

Chaserjoey

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Oct 27, 2017
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I think, when it's finally KH3's time to shine, I'm going to update my PS4. I've had my base PS4 since April 2014 and I really want to experience KH3 in it's best Playstation form so a PS4Pro would be lovely. I hope there's a bundle as well, cause that would really help.
 

Voltt

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,499
So I was listening to this track here, and something really stood out to me.



Lea really needs a theme.
 

Chaserjoey

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,638
Xbox One X might provide the game with the ultimate visuals but Playstation has everything I could ever want in gaming, minus Ace Attorney. I would never sacrifice games I actually want to play just for a visual and performance boost.

I don't even have a 4KTV so I'd just want the 4Pro to provide the basic upgrades to my TV, performance boost etc.
 

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I've been thinking about this for the longest fucking time, and this is by no means me saying people on Xbox don't deserve Kingdom Hearts 3, but every time I see a KH3 trailer and it ends with the PS4 and Xbox One logo I question why. This game just makes so little sense on Xbox.

I imagine when KH3 was originally announced back in 2013 it was announced for Xbox One mostly due to the uncertainty of the PS4. When the PS4 was announced back in February of 2013 I think everyone was worried about stuff like price, and for publishers and developers they were worried about the PS4 being another PS3 type situation. From that standpoint I think an Xbox One version made a lot of sense, but now it just doesn't.

Realistically who is going to play this game on Xbox One? Also if Square Enix wanted to expand the KH franchise to Xbox why not release the 1.5+2.5 collection on Xbox One along with 2.8? Forgive my ignorance as I didn't actually get into this series until last summer, but was there an exclusivity deal of sorts between Square and Sony back in the day on KH1 and 2? I ask because the Kingdom Hearts franchise has been on a number of systems that aren't playstation (Gameboy Advance, DS, 3DS), but KH1 and 2 have never appeared on any other systems.

It's such a none issue that I don't really know why I'm even asking, because at the end of the day it's going to be fairly easy to have Kingdom Hearts 3 on both Xbox One and PS4 since both consoles are x86 and very easy to develop and work with I guess I'm just wondering whose going to play the game on Xbox.
 

Chaserjoey

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Oct 27, 2017
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3 days until the anniversary :)

2016's anniversary:

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2017's anniversary:

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I've been thinking about this for the longest fucking time, and this is by no means me saying people on Xbox don't deserve Kingdom Hearts 3, but every time I see a KH3 trailer and it ends with the PS4 and Xbox One logo I question why. This game just makes so little sense on Xbox.

I imagine when KH3 was originally announced back in 2013 it was announced for Xbox One mostly due to the uncertainty of the PS4. When the PS4 was announced back in February of 2013 I think everyone was worried about stuff like price, and for publishers and developers they were worried about the PS4 being another PS3 type situation. From that standpoint I think an Xbox One version made a lot of sense, but now it just doesn't.

Realistically who is going to play this game on Xbox One? Also if Square Enix wanted to expand the KH franchise to Xbox why not release the 1.5+2.5 collection on Xbox One along with 2.8? Forgive my ignorance as I didn't actually get into this series until last summer, but was there an exclusivity deal of sorts between Square and Sony back in the day on KH1 and 2? I ask because the Kingdom Hearts franchise has been on a number of systems that aren't playstation (Gameboy Advance, DS, 3DS), but KH1 and 2 have never appeared on any other systems.

It's such a none issue that I don't really know why I'm even asking, because at the end of the day it's going to be fairly easy to have Kingdom Hearts 3 on both Xbox One and PS4 since both consoles are x86 and very easy to develop and work with I guess I'm just wondering whose going to play the game on Xbox.
Yeah, Xbox was initially included because it was unknown how this gen would go, but I sorta wish the Xbox port would be cancelled. They aren't committed to bringing the other Kingdom Hearts games to it and other Square Enix games from Japanese studios have not faired well in sales on the Xbox.