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Linkura

Member
Oct 25, 2017
19,943
Just checking in on this thread one more time before I'm out, as I'm not playing this game anymore. As I posted earlier, it's fucking terrible.

Whoa whoa whoa. What talk be goin on in here about one of my top RPGs of all time? Ni No Kuni giving off Lunar vibes or something?
Nononononono. We were just comparing the character intros. In this game, they seem to introduce characters with a 5 second voiced cutscene, much like Lunar, before going back to the in-game. Except Lunar has more voice acting and better dialogue and characters.

I feel they cut some stuff in the beginning. It feels so sudden.
Yeah, it really makes no sense and makes you completely uninvested in the characters, particularly Roland.

If you take away the visuals and presentation this is a 5/10 experience for me.

Damn shame. A huge step down from the first. Combat was bad, sure, but this replacement to super easy mode is just... I shouldn't be able to kill a boss with two special attacks. Wtf.

The quests are just cringe. I feel like I am playing a 2005 era jrpg from the bargain bin.
Extremely apt.

Because a lot of people here don't play JRPGs often, I'd reckon. Just on the hype wagon.

Sound defensive but this community and the site it originated from are notorious for having uninformed people misjudging games. They'll buy it because it's the latest hot thing but in truth it won't be for them. The game shouldn't suffer because people want to be wave riders.

This is bullshit. I have been a JRPG fan for over 20 years, playing most of them released since then (though less and less over time to be honest as I refuse to play 1000 year old dragon games, and those seem to be the majority released these days). This game is fucking awful and among the worst JRPGs I've ever played.

I'm done.

This game can shampoo my balls. It's terrible.
This made me LOL. Good show sir.

It's a Level 5 game. This is their M.O.
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Briareos

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Oct 28, 2017
3,042
Maine
Overworld is a bummer, frame rate is really shaky on Neo at 4K/HDR. Environments in the 3d scenes early on are very sparse; as someone who works on a AAA shooter I really feel like I'm working in a completely different industry some times. That opener was really weird, too, but in hindsight I sort of dig that strange juxtaposition. My ten year old said as I booted it up "is this one going to start with something completely depressing like the first one?" and then *boom*.
 

stone616

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
1,429
Why didn't Nella jump down the cliff with us? Why didn't she run, grab, and roll rather than run, push, and stop? She clearly had a mission to get herself killed. I knew it from the moment she joined but had no icon or HP meter but it didn't need to be so obvious.
 

Katana_Strikes

Unshakable Resolve
Member
Oct 29, 2017
10,760
I fricken love Lofty!! And he's Welsh like Drippy. So good.

It's rare that this happens, but I'm just constantly smiling playing this game. Loving it.
 

Derrick01

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,289
So, who do I believe? Critics (~90 metascore), or the folks here? Like 8 out of 10 people here seem to really really hate this game.

I haven't unlocked kingdom building or anything that comes after that but the ridiculously easy difficulty makes it really hard to like the game. If it was better balanced I don't think it would be that bad though. It's just so far the only thing to the game is combat so the problem is in your face every minute for many hours until you get to that other stuff (seriously).
 

GrimJawz

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
612
Canada
This OT is kinda bumping me out lol. I never buy games full price I hope I end up I liking it more then what seems to be the general opinion here. I've only played sub 2 hours so far, the beginning felt kinda rushed but I'm assuming they want to throw the player in the king stuff as soon as possible, the combat has definitely been way to easy but feels surprisingly good. Hope it doesn't disappoint me like XBC2.
 

Deku

Member
Oct 25, 2017
242
I'm enjoying the game but definitely notice the flaws. Just starting chapter 3.

I do dislike the "I see something special in your eyes and follow you forever" trope. Makes his companions feel very unearned. Also, his main goal is to take over the world... Seems kind of like a villian with good intentions.

I don't really mind the combat, but it is on the easy side (it's over before I can even play around with the mechanics).

So far, I liked XB2 better, but I'm enjoying it enough to see how it ends.
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,023
Yeah, I'm a few hours in and I'm close to getting rid. I really hate the chibi style open world and the combat is just way too easy. Add in the annoying loading screens (victory screen etc) and it's incredibly tedious to play.

I'll give it another chance later on tonight, but so far I'm not really impressed.
 

tiebreaker

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,166

How far are you into the game? I'll say stick with it until you reach the coastal town. If you still hate it by then, yeah, better let it go and play other game.

Story is very simple, it's like reading a children story. Things happen just because, no complex motive or deepest lore. Not a big deal for me.
 

stone616

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
1,429
Yup, if you don't see a character die in a JRPG, it's safe to assume they are still alive. Hell, even if you do see them die, they may come back!
This isn't Gundam. I'm guessing she's finished. She got the refrigerator treatment except less gruesome to develop the main character. She was too strong and confident to last long. She would have made Roland useless.
 

visvim

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,160
I completed the game. 27 hours. Will be putting the Kings edition on eBay come monday...

Overall it finished a 6/10. The presentation / visuals are by far it's shining points, but in no way is this even close to making up for what is really a pretty bland jrpg overall. The gameplay loop is tedious, with waaaaay too many a to b questing. The story is like something of a cliche, clearly inspired by Ghibli but without the flair and depth of their storytelling. The fact that only 50% of the game seems to be voice acted in english really didnt help the fact that all characters outside of Roland are cardboard cutouts. The new characters get introduced like some kind of WWE wrestlers.

I dont understand the glowing reviews saying how good the kingdom management is either, it's really boring and nothing like Suikoden - to even mention them together is bizarre to me.
 

Cranston

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
1,377
That's still an opinion, just like mine is. I've been playing JRPGs for 25 years and I think I'd put it in the "good, not great" or "above average" category based on my time so far. It as things I really love about it and one thing (plot development) that I think is average.

That's fair enough and you're right. I'm just annoyed as I was really looking forward to the game and I stumped up the full price. I also cannot fathom how the likes of Easy Allies can give this 95%.
 

Linkura

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Oct 25, 2017
19,943
How far are you into the game? I'll say stick with it until you reach the coastal town. If you still hate it by then, yeah, better let it go and play other game.

Story is very simple, it's like reading a children story. Things happen just because, no complex motive or deepest lore. Not a big deal for me.
A bit over 3. Literally cannot take any more. Sorry.

Unfortunately that is a big deal for me.
 

nihilence

nøthing but silence
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
15,963
From 'quake area to big OH.
Wife got her collector's edition and it looks pretty nice. She's playing now, and so far seems to enjoy it. She really likes the art style and music. I don't understand why so much text and little voice work.
 

StuBurns

Self Requested Ban
Banned
Nov 12, 2017
7,273
I'd give it 50/50 she's locked up and the big bad reveals it in the final confrontation.
 

Deleted member 9584

User requested account closure
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Oct 26, 2017
7,132
That's fair enough and you're right. I'm just annoyed as I was really looking forward to the game and I stumped up the full price. I also cannot fathom how the likes of Easy Allies can give this 95%.
I think this suffers from the same thing FFXV did but to a much lesser extent. It's a game that was highly anticipated but mostly mysterious up until release and it ended up not being exactly what most expected for certain reasons. Scenarios like this tend to always make people not like the end product, but that doesn't mean it's as bad as some people say. This game has problems, but no jrpg is perfect.

Edit: correction, Chrono Trigger is perfect.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yea okay, I'm trading this in. What a waste of money.

4.5 hours in and I can't force myself to play anymore. Didn't even unlocked the kingdom building but I don't care about it.
 
Oct 27, 2017
2,891
Just checking in on this thread one more time before I'm out, as I'm not playing this game anymore. As I posted earlier, it's fucking terrible.


Nononononono. We were just comparing the character intros. In this game, they seem to introduce characters with a 5 second voiced cutscene, much like Lunar, before going back to the in-game. Except Lunar has more voice acting and better dialogue and characters.


Yeah, it really makes no sense and makes you completely uninvested in the characters, particularly Roland.


Extremely apt.



This is bullshit. I have been a JRPG fan for over 20 years, playing most of them released since then (though less and less over time to be honest as I refuse to play 1000 year old dragon games, and those seem to be the majority released these days). This game is fucking awful and among the worst JRPGs I've ever played.


This made me LOL. Good show sir.


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Glad you came back to confirm your biases. If you can't give with the game I don't really even see the point of doing that. There's nothing wrong with drippdro a game that doesn't hook you.
 

Einherjer

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,924
Germany
JRPGs are rarely incredibly hard or anything, I agree, but NNK2 is definitely on a whole new level. I'm on PC and used a cheat table to make enemies take half damage and deal 4x damage and now it's starting to feel like your typical JRPG.

Ppl are saying anything above 1.5x damage disables iframes (i also got 2 shot a few time with 4 XD) for the player atm mighrt be a bug in the ct table dunno i'm using the values Sho posted here atm: http://steamcommunity.com/app/589360/discussions/0/1697168437867789592/

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Just checking Damage Modifier Script and changing the values should be enough thou, it should be possible to script it so you don't need to change values every time as well.
 
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Spedfrom

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,133
Christ, what a cesspool of a thread. I'm liking the game, just as I liked the first one. With the added benefit of the more satisfying combat experience, even if it is on the easy side.

Won't delve any deeper just yet as playing 2 or 3 hours and then coming in here to rage about the game is freaking ridiculous.
 

twisteh

Member
Oct 26, 2017
235
As someone who just got a 4K TV but has a launch model PS4 I'm amazed by how huge a difference HDR makes in this game. Looks fantastic.
 

Mr.Fletcher

Member
Nov 18, 2017
9,570
UK
I loved XC2, and Ni no Kuni 2 seems exactly a game with the opposite values to me.
While XC2 had poor IQ and some awful character design, NNK2 has good IQ and designs but big changes between graphical style during some sections.
While XC2 combat was deep and well thought, NNK2 is easy and simple, and it doesn't feel like a good action game, it feels limited and cluncky at times.
The OST from XC2 was a wonder, but the first 5 hours of NNK2 only have the main theme from the first game and some boring tunes.
And about the story, XC2 has anime tropes and some stupid moments, but from the beginning I was absorted in the world , characters and epic moments. NNK2 story feels simplistic and childish, with no impact and with big inconsistent moments (5 hours into the game).

I feel like NNK2 is a charming game, and the artstyle is more appealing, but the first 5 hours feel really worse than the first 5 hours of XC2.

Cheers! I'll keep an eye on it for now - still playing through NG+ on XC2 so I've got plenty of time to make up my mind up.

As an outsider looking in (someone who hasn't followed this game or played the original) I actually kinda prefer the look of the first game... just tonally. But I adored XC2, even more so than the darker original, so maybe it'll be the same here if I buy it.
 

twisteh

Member
Oct 26, 2017
235
Just read through some of this thread and I'm amazed, wasn't expecting this reaction at all on here. I'm a big JRPG fan and I'm fuckin' loving this game. Did the first one get such a mixed reception?
 

Tibarn

Member
Oct 31, 2017
13,370
Barcelona
But I adored XC2, even more so than the darker original, so maybe it'll be the same here if I buy it.
I found XC2 far better than the first trailers or some reviews showed, I loved all the characters and enjoyed a lot the combat system and story.
On the other hand, I'm enjoying NNK2 far less than I thought, and I don't understand how it's getting better reviews than XC2, I supose the artstyle is the big culprit here.
 

Maffis

Member
Oct 29, 2017
1,314
Anyone have a suggestion for a control scheme that feels really good when using a controller that switches block and dodge from eachother? Using keyboard and mouse the combat is so much more responsive because block and dodge are separate buttons, but I'm finding myself rolling a lot when wanting to block (rolling is slower) when using a controller.
 

Mikebison

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
11,036
Yeah, I'm a few hours in and I'm close to getting rid. I really hate the chibi style open world and the combat is just way too easy. Add in the annoying loading screens (victory screen etc) and it's incredibly tedious to play.

I'll give it another chance later on tonight, but so far I'm not really impressed.
Worrying. My copy turned up today and our tastes seem to be pretty well aligned. Going to give it a go after work.
 

StealthieOne

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
515
Dfw
This OT is kinda bumping me out lol. I never buy games full price I hope I end up I liking it more then what seems to be the general opinion here. I've only played sub 2 hours so far, the beginning felt kinda rushed but I'm assuming they want to throw the player in the king stuff as soon as possible, the combat has definitely been way to easy but feels surprisingly good. Hope it doesn't disappoint me like XBC2.
Xbc2?