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Petronio1982

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Oct 29, 2017
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1-Bae > Bay because Chloe... and because I don't like heroes
2-Truth > Lie because lying to a friend it's not good
3-Pricefiled > Amberprice because I don't like Rachel that much (see point 2)
 

Fanto

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Bae: I picked Bay my first time through, but I enjoy the other ending a lot more on replays. There's a load of reasons why I like it more, which I've talked about a lot in here I think, but I mainly just like thinking about what adventures they get up to next after all of that went down, lots of room for interesting head-canons and fan-fictions.

Truth: This one was a weird pick for me. Earlier in episode 3 when Chloe was talking to William, or his ghost or whatever, I had said that I would not want to know the truth about something he did if it ruined the "perfect dad" image of him. But then when faced with telling Rachel something about her dad, I decided to do it. I don't know if it was the right decision, but it felt like the Chloe I had been playing as would want to be as truthful to Rachel as possible, even if it meant hurting her.

I can't pick between Amberprice and Pricefield. They are both great. Amberprice is more of a fiery and emotional relationship whereas Pricefield is just wholesome and cute.
 

Aurc

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Oct 28, 2017
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Is anyone else dreaming of the day when Dontnod reveals LiS2. I hope we will get it at E3. I needs it.
No idea what the protagonist will be like, their age range, geographical location, whether they'll have powers or not, etc. Anything is possible, so yeah, I'm damn curious about LiS 2. Looking forward to playing it episode by episode like I did the first game, because there's bound to be more absurd cliffhangers in store (and mountains of fun speculation between episode releases).
 

Fanto

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Is anyone else dreaming of the day when Dontnod reveals LiS2. I hope we will get it at E3. I needs it.
Yep, my prediction is that it will be revealed at E3, either at the Xbox or PS conference would be my guess. BtS was at the Xbox conference last year. If it isn't going to be in a conference then my guess would be that it gets revealed on its own with a trailer like a week before E3 instead.

Either way, it is something I hope to see every day when I get on here haha.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Can't wait to see what Dontnod does with LiS 2; the possibilities are endless. It will be very interesting to see what they consider to be core elements to the series that will carry over. Will they still lean into Twin Peaks esque weirdness? Will there be powers? Are teen characters and issues still going to be the focus? I'm pretty curious if they see queer representation as a core aspect or not.

Hopefully we see something at E3. As far as these types of games go, I'm also hoping that Telltale will show Wolf Among Us S2.
 

Aurc

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Can't wait to see what Dontnod does with LiS 2; the possibilities are endless. It will be very interesting to see what they consider to be core elements to the series that will carry over. Will they still lean into Twin Peaks esque weirdness? Will there be powers? Are teen characters and issues still going to be the focus? I'm pretty curious if they see queer representation as a core aspect or not.

Hopefully we see something at E3. As far as these types of games go, I'm also hoping that Telltale will show Wolf Among Us S2.
I read your posts in Roger's voice, and it makes them more enjoyable. Gonna continue to do that.
 

Xagarath

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Oct 28, 2017
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My only worry is that LiS felt very much like lightning in a bottle - I don't know how easily they'll be able to recapture that with an entirely new set of characters and mechanics; plus the choice/consequence aspect of time-rewinding fit so perfectly with the nature of interactive storytelling that I'm not sure how any other supernatural power or twist could match it.

(Not to say I'm not excited. Just cautious)
 
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I read your posts in Roger's voice, and it makes them more enjoyable. Gonna continue to do that.

Lol

You are setting me up for an impossible standard. I'm just not that witty. Now I'm trying to think of a Roger quote to describe LiS. How about just:

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Brotherhood93

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Oct 28, 2017
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My only worry is that LiS felt very much like lightning in a bottle - I don't know how easily they'll be able to recapture that with an entirely new set of characters and mechanics; plus the choice/consequence aspect of time-rewinding fit so perfectly with the nature of interactive storytelling that I'm not sure how any other supernatural power or twist could match it.

(Not to say I'm not excited. Just cautious)
I feel the same. I'm equal parts excited and scared to see what LiS 2 looks like. I fear very much they won't be able to evoke the same feelings they did in the first season or, if they choose to take it in another direction, that it won't be as interesting. I'm not ready to move on from Chloe and Arcadia Bay.
 

FluxWaveZ

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I really think another game or season set in Arcadia Bay, going over many of the same characters we've seen already, would only devalue the LiS + BtS experience for so many reasons.
 
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I really think another game or season set in Arcadia Bay, going over many of the same characters we've seen already, would only devalue the LiS + BtS experience for so many reasons.

I understand this viewpoint. I honestly thought that BtS sounded like a terrible idea when it was announced. I had no interest in actually meeting Rachel, prequels in general are mostly pointless, Chloe seemed like too much of an active character to work well as a protag in a choice based game, etc. But after playing it I changed my mind on all of that. I actually think that I prefer BtS now and with a three year or so gap between it and LiS, I'm sure that Deck Nine could come up with something compelling.
 

Overdoziz

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Oct 26, 2017
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I feel like we've come full circle with the Farewell episode. Without it I think they could've done more episodes about how Chloe Rachel's relationship kinda fell apart, but I think doing that now would feel a bit weird.
 

Hey Please

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Oct 31, 2017
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Just saw Before the storm go on sale. I recently finished Ep 1 of the original LiS. As such, I am wondering if the Deluxe edition is worth the extra CAD $7 over the complete Season.

Opinions welcome.
 

Fanto

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Just saw Before the storm go on sale. I recently finished Ep 1 of the original LiS. As such, I am wondering if the Deluxe edition is worth the extra CAD $7 over the complete Season.

Opinions welcome.
The deluxe edition most importantly comes with the bonus episode, so you get 4 episodes instead of 3. I think most people here have agreed that the bonus episode was really good and worth playing.

I personally think it's worth it for the deluxe edition just to get the bonus episode, the other stuff is whatever but still nice.
 

Almeister

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Oct 25, 2017
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I feel like we've come full circle with the Farewell episode. Without it I think they could've done more episodes about how Chloe Rachel's relationship kinda fell apart, but I think doing that now would feel a bit weird.

Good god... LiS is depressing enough, I do not need to be a part of that!

Edit: I was talking about this with a good friend of mine while killing zombies in Arizona Sunshine the other day - I would be totally into an explicitely alternate timeline 'Chloe and Rachel both go off on their road trip together and meet Max and just have a Good Time' game done by Deck Nine.

That would satisfy my appreciation for the bleakness of the original games along with my desire for those characters' lives/relationships not to get not to get completely trashed!
 
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Hey Please

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Oct 31, 2017
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The deluxe edition most importantly comes with the bonus episode, so you get 4 episodes instead of 3. I think most people here have agreed that the bonus episode was really good and worth playing.

I personally think it's worth it for the deluxe edition just to get the bonus episode, the other stuff is whatever but still nice.

Thanks a bunch comrade!
 

Brotherhood93

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Oct 28, 2017
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Yeah, Youth is my favourite song from the soundtrack too but it's all so excellent there is a lot to choose from. I loved Bros - Wolf Alice and Taking You There - Broods too. Also, special mention for Black Flies - Ben Howard in Farewell.
 

Damn Silly

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think my favourite from Before the Storm at the moment might be A Hole In The Earth (I would post a link to just the song by itself, but it seems to be impossible to find the actual version by itself)



It is a very tough competition, regardless.
 
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Fanto

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Interview with Deck9

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...-life-is-strange-prequel.aspx?PostPageIndex=1

Not sure if anything new as I haven't gone that deep into searching out interviews/commentary about BTS as I did for LIS (for whatever reason)
Nice, thanks for the link, that was a really interesting interview.

Here's a few excerpts in case anyone doesn't want to read through. Spoilers galore though.
Before the Storm has one of the best queer love stories I've seen in games. What kind of research went into that?

A lot. I think when you're writing anything, research is important. Anytime you're talking about experiences not your own, and I'm speaking about myself in this, research is absolutely vital. Research and humility. But I do think there's a gentleness that's required and a recognition of boundaries, perspectives, and biases. I'm not a 16-year-old girl – I've never struggled with those experiences or my sexuality in that particular way. So, I'm writing from a place of immense ignorance in that. But we have a writer's room. I'm not the only writer – there are four of us. Half of us are female and there are members of the room and of the studio as a whole that identify within the LGBT community. We leaned on their perspectives and insight. We read a number of things online and just thought really carefully.

We chose not to tell a coming out story, and we did that for a lot of reasons. One of the most consistent pieces of feedback I got about this was people really wanted to see gay characters, queer characters, whose queerness was the least interesting thing about them. There's a story we could have told about that, absolutely, and that could be a really fruitful story but that's not the story we were going to tell. We were going to treat queerness as incidental, as matter-of-fact. Not casually and not disregarding the intricacies, but we let that not be the most important thing going on. When they kiss, it's just going to be a romantic kiss. And we set it up to be as lovely and as crazy and awesome as it could be and just not care about the fact that it's two girls. That resonated with fans and members of the community in a way that we're all just really grateful for. We wanted to tell a story, we wanted to find the boundaries of where games are intersecting with these communities and really push them. And anytime you do that, there's a risk of insensitivity, there's a risk of a mistake, there are all sorts of risks. And I think that's okay – we should take these risks.

In terms of feedback you received on that topic, do you look back and think that there's anything you would have done differently?

No, I don't think so. There are questions I still have. Choosing to end the story with Rachel's fate was a very deliberate thing that we did. [Some fans] reacted with pain about it. And we thought that would happen. The game itself really is a pleasant fiction, because we know Chloe's fate. We know Rachel's fate. What we wanted to explore with this love story, in this little window of time, was the brilliant joy that Chloe had in Rachel but at the end, we remind you that it was temporary and that it wasn't going to last. We made a spectacle of her grief in episode one, by the end in that final scene, maybe you're feeling it in a way you wouldn't have just from her telling you that she was grieving. We wanted to see what the medium could do with that. And I'm proud of what we accomplished, and at the same time, I don't love that it hurt people because it was such an intense experience. We just want to think about the kinds of connections we're building with the interactive stories and how to be mindful. I don't think we did anything wrong, I just want to continue to be thoughtful about what we're doing because as an industry, we don't really understand what we're making still. We're still figuring it out.

The last episode felt a little rushed. Was there anything that you regret or anything that ended up on the chopping room floor? Did you ever consider showing how Chloe and Rachel had their falling out?

Yeah, we did consider that. We considered all sorts of moments in their lives. Ultimately, we decided to confine it to this very specific few days. And yeah, things always get cut, things always get chopped. Production is frenetic and insane. There's always darlings that don't quite make it. I'll share one that we never really talked about. We had a backtalk scene where Chloe was backtalking herself in the mirror to really explore the vulnerability she was feeling and the self-doubt, and how we can be our own worst critics and our cruelest opponents. Just for production reasons, we had to cut it, but it was one of our favorite pieces of content. It would have been really beautiful and interesting.
 

reedscam

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Oct 27, 2017
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Been examining scenes in Before the Storm to relive some of the great moments in that game. I'm terrible at metaphors, and I've been having trouble parsing through the Dream Sequence in Episode 2. Was wondering if people had thoughts/answers.

Ghost William talks about darkness blinding with loss and fire blinding with beauty, but there being a greater beauty ahead. He then warns her that fire is jealous and to be careful not to get burned.

Rachel has been linked to fire in Before the Storm, and in a couple of places it seems like their relationship is not always good for Chloe, but then what is the greater beauty? Are the two allusions here just Rachel and Max?

The thing that throws me is that Chloe focuses on a star field overhead as William discusses greater beauty, which seems pretty much an asset reuse from the star nightlight that Chloe uses in episode 3 to cheer up Rachel, which I could see implying greater beauty just being a deeper connection with Rachel? Which makes fire...I don't know, a more frivolous phase in their relationship?
 

ClickyCal'

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Oct 25, 2017
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Nice, thanks for the link, that was a really interesting interview.

Here's a few excerpts in case anyone doesn't want to read through. Spoilers galore though.
Damn, that cut backtalk challenge with the mirror would have been great. Having more stuff about showing Chloe's true inner feelings would have helped.
 

Matthew

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Oct 26, 2017
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I cannot but echo all the praises above regarding the BtS soundtrack (by Daughter) and Licensed music.
I already knew Daughter quite well before and now thanks to BtS I have fallen in love with Lanterns on the Lake.

Here is Through the Cellar Door you hear this in BtS
during the train ride

Their whole album "Beings" is fantastic.


EDIT:
I am sad that the Before the Storm didn't win Resetera's best sound track of 2017
 

Fanto

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Oct 25, 2017
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Looks like they are putting out a survey about "box products". It mainly just asks what platforms you bought the games on, whether you got physical or digital, and then why you got the version(s) you did.

 

Maika_Fan

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Oct 28, 2017
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Finally got around to playing the farewell episode of BtS. Jeez that ending - parts of this series destroy me.
 

Aurc

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Oct 28, 2017
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Best BtS song by far for me was "Through The Cellar Door". What a great moment in the game, too (when you're on the train with Rachel in the first episode).
 

Ouisch

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Oct 27, 2017
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Hey all! New lurker here (still getting through the past 50+ pages of this thread), but LiS ranks as one of my favorite gaming experiences of all time. Avoided BtS until the physical edition released, so avoided all LiS related discussion in the interim for potential spoilers. Finished it on the weekend and spent the rest of the week being devastated. I've got to admit, I'm firmly in the camp of people that expected it to be a shitty cash grab, but... holy shit Deck Nine, hats off.

Also, just wanted to let everyone know that the iOS version of LiS updated with Ep.4 + 5 last night as I hadn't seen it mentioned here yet.

Oh, and as for allegiance, hardcore team bae, come at me. In the camp that staunchly refuses to watch (or think too hard) about the other option. Always wanted to switch to a Chloe avatar, but never could find one of her flipping someone off that I liked enough.
 

Damn Silly

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The only reason I'd want animated avatars is to show the Chloe middle finger in all its glory.

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Such inspiring range in flipping the bird.