2017-18 Season TV Cancellations/Pilots: E Corp does hostile takeover. Shuts down fsociety

so i recorded a random Orphan Black special that was on at like 6am thinking it was going to be a fun look back type thing and half hour in they stealth aired the first Killing Eve. Now i was going to check that out anyway but the first ep at least was pretty decent.

http://deadline.com/2018/04/roseanne-premiere-ratings-live3-total-viewer-lift-record-1202356769/

Wow that's a lot of red for FOX's Sunday comedy lineup.

I fell off on Last Man of Earth but B99 and Bob's Burgers are still solid.

ABC must be happy seeing green for their sundays every week now.

I thought it was one of American Idols best, no silly random goofy moments that go on for way too long, singing was great.

Still feel akward and some of the manufacture drama or whatever (moving the dude from room to room, focusing on dramatic backstories for people who were cut, suspenseful cliffhanger breaks)

The CW Renews 10 Series: 'Riverdale', All 5 DC Shows, 'Supernatural', 'Dynasty', 'Jane the Virgin' & 'Crazy Ex-Girlfriend'

The CW again has given an early renewal to the bulk of its lineup, picking up all returning series on its fall schedule for the as well as freshmen Dynasty and Black Lightning. The list includes all five DC series, The Flash (Season 5), Arrow (Season 7), Supergirl (Season 4) and Legends Of Tomorrow (Season 4), joined by newcomer Black Lighting (Season 2), as well as the venerable Supernatural, picked up for 14th (!) season, sophomore success Riverdale (Season 3) and praised comedies Jane the Virgin (Season 5) and Crazy Ex-Girlfriend (Season 4) for what could be the duo's final seasons.

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Cornballer said:

The CW Renews 10 Series: 'Riverdale', All 5 DC Shows, 'Supernatural', 'Dynasty', 'Jane the Virgin' & 'Crazy Ex-Girlfriend'

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Where does CW get their money? And geeze, how far do they plan on dragging out Supernatural? Not many dramas (that aren't medical/court/CSI etuff) get NEARLY that many seasons!

Cornballer said:

The CW Renews 10 Series: 'Riverdale', All 5 DC Shows, 'Supernatural', 'Dynasty', 'Jane the Virgin' & 'Crazy Ex-Girlfriend'

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Awesome news! I guess The 100's fate is during upfronts since it'll be on for a few weeks by then.

Cornballer said:

The CW Renews 10 Series: 'Riverdale', All 5 DC Shows, 'Supernatural', 'Dynasty', 'Jane the Virgin' & 'Crazy Ex-Girlfriend'

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Whoo! Crazy Ex-Girlfriend is renewed!

apparently Supernatural just had a Scooby doo crossever episode...

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...I'm not sure if thats jump the shark material, or if its so bad thats good material tbh. I'm torn.

Curler said:

Where does CW get their money? And geeze, how far do they plan on dragging out Supernatural? Not many dramas (that aren't medical/court/CSI etuff) get NEARLY that many seasons!

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supernatural will become a bubahotep spinoff.

Curler said:

Where does CW get their money?

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Overseas money launderers.

NingenJanai said:

supernatural will become a bubahotep spinoff.

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I had fun when True Blood went nuts, but they at least wrapped it up. Supernatural just keeps on going and going and going and....

Fuzzy said:

Overseas money launderers.

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Would not be in the least bit surprised... I'm sure the shows do well internationally, though.

The CW has aired 13 shows so far this season and they renewed 10 of them for the fall. That only leaves Valor, Life Sentence, and iZombie. I hope that just means iZombie can still come back in 2019. :(

Fuzzy said:

The CW has airing 13 shows so far this season and they renewed 10 of them. That only leaves Valor, Life Sentence, and iZombie. :(

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The 100.

Cornballer said:

The CW again has given an early renewal to the bulk of its lineup, picking up all returning series on its fall schedule for the as well as freshmen Dynasty and Black Lightning. The list includes all five DC series, The Flash (Season 5), Arrow (Season 7), Supergirl (Season 4) and Legends Of Tomorrow (Season 4), joined by newcomer Black Lighting (Season 2), as well as the venerable Supernatural, picked up for 14th (!) season, sophomore success Riverdale (Season 3) and praised comedies Jane the Virgin (Season 5) and Crazy Ex-Girlfriend (Season 4) for what could be the duo's final seasons.

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Seriously? 0.1 Dynasty? That's a big shock. Are they hoping that it'll do well on Netflix over the summer like Riverdale did?

Rychu said:

The 100.

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Hasn't aired yet. Only 13 shows so far this season have aired.

G_Shumi said:

Seriously? 0.1 Dynasty? That's a big shock. Are they hoping that it'll do well on Netflix over the summer like Riverdale did?

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Isn't that one of the shows that air weekly on Netflix overseas right now? We can't look at ratings of shows on the CW because that's only a small part of the picture.

Rhaknar said:

apparently Supernatural just had a Scooby doo crossever episode...

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...I'm not sure if thats jump the shark material, or if its so bad thats good material tbh. I'm torn.

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It's neither. The episode fits perfectly with the crazy stuff Supernatural has done for 10 years now and it was great.

Curler said:

And geeze, how far do they plan on dragging out Supernatural? Not many dramas (that aren't medical/court/CSI etuff) get NEARLY that many seasons!

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Pedowitz has said that the show will continue until the boys don't want to do it anymore.

Curler said:

Where does CW get their money?

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Netflix. Their previous deal was for over a billion, and I would assume their current one is for more than the old one.

Fuzzy said:

Hasn't aired yet. Only 13 shows so far this season have aired.


Isn't that one of the shows that air weekly on Netflix overseas right now? We can't look at ratings of shows on the CW because that's only a small part of the picture.

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Possibly. I'm not aware of how that show does internationally.

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Netflix. Their previous deal was for over a billion, and I would assume their current one is for more than the old one.

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I aprove of our new Netflix overlords... because we get the shows weekly here in EUland :p

now if only they got the Supernatural right so I could binge all of it :(

I dont think iZombie is coming back.

kevin1025 said:

Awesome news! I guess The 100's fate is during upfronts since it'll be on for a few weeks by then.

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I've heard that we'll find out about The 100's renewal news in May.

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Isn that one of the shows that air weekly on Netflix overseas right now? We can't look at ratings of shows on the CW because that's only a small part of the picture.

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Yes. Dynasty, Riverdale, Flash, Supergirl and Black Lightning all air weekly internationally and The 100 will also start airing new episodes weekly.

I've never gotten into Supernatural but I almost think it's too much at this point. Now 14 seasons and 300 eps....I'm just overwhelmed now to ever make that leap and I marathoned every Star Trek series one time...


Glad there's one last season for Crazy Ex Girlfriend. Hopefully they can wrap it up because apparently this past season was kind of garbage and they need to figure out how to go out on a high note.

So happy for Crazy Exgirlfriend. It's so good. Can't wait.

Rhaknar said:

apparently Supernatural just had a Scooby doo crossever episode...

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...I'm not sure if thats jump the shark material, or if its so bad thats good material tbh. I'm torn.

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Did you miss like 7 seasons ago when Sam & Dean got sucked into versions of
Grey's Anatomy
CSI Miami
Knight Rider

Or when Sam & Dean get transported to an alternate reality where they had to pretend to be Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles.

ObiWan said:

I've never gotten into Supernatural but I almost think it's too much at this point. Now 14 seasons and 300 eps....I'm just overwhelmed now to ever make that leap and I marathoned every Star Trek series one time...

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I did it last summer, only suggestion would be to get key episodes from S6 through S10, skip the rest and actually watch 11+

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Did you miss like 7 seasons ago when Sam & Dean got sucked into versions of
Grey's Anatomy
CSI Miami
Knight Rider

Or when Sam & Dean get transported to an alternate reality where they had to pretend to be Jared Padalecki and Jensen Ackles.

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Ive only watched up to like season 8 I think

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Pedowitz has said that the show will continue until the boys don't want to do it anymore.

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And why give up with steady pay? :x I really wish they ended during the true ending (S5). I continue to watch as background noise, because I'm obligated to finish any show I start... especially after the amount of seasons watched that I put into it.

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Netflix. Their previous deal was for over a billion, and I would assume their current one is for more than the old one.

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Yeahhhh Netflix definitely has a ton of money to throw at studios.

Good to see the announced renewals for The CW, but it seems to spell bad news for iZombie although I don't see how they scale up from this season anyway. At the same time, I'm sure it and The 100 will not end without appropriate final seasons. I trust The CW on that.
Dynasty being back isn't a surprise due to its origin, and I'm glad it is back as well.

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I'm not sure if thats jump the shark material, or if its so bad thats good material tbh. I'm torn.

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Even worse: it is so awesome it is super awesome material.

Not too surprised by any of the CW renewal news, good to see though.

Now I can only hope that iZombie and The 100 will be able to join them at a later date.

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Seriously? 0.1 Dynasty? That's a big shock. Are they hoping that it'll do well on Netflix over the summer like Riverdale did?

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Dynasty's ratings continue to be soft as it was moved to the lower-trafficked Friday night. But the reboot of the classic 1980s soap has a lucrative distribution deal with Netflix for CBS TV Studios, whose parent CBS co-owns the CW.

Additionally, the CW brass hope that the arrival of Nicollette Sheridan as Alexis Carrington would provide the spark that Joan Collins delivered when she joined the original series as Alexis in Season 2. Sheridan's first episode recently posted a small viewership uptick.

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Small? Ratings TRIPLED when she came in! Next week it will be 0.9, the week after it will be 2.7!

So glad Crazy Ex Girlfriend got renewed!
I hope we get at least one more season of iZombie.

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Dynasty's ratings continue to be soft as it was moved to the lower-trafficked Friday night. But the reboot of the classic 1980s soap has a lucrative distribution deal with Netflix for CBS TV Studios, whose parent CBS co-owns the CW.

Additionally, the CW brass hope that the arrival of Nicollette Sheridan as Alexis Carrington would provide the spark that Joan Collins delivered when she joined the original series as Alexis in Season 2. Sheridan's first episode recently posted a small viewership uptick.

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Geez, that is awfully risky for any network to do, let alone The CW. Here's hoping it pays off for them.

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I dont think iZombie is coming back.

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dont put stuff like this out in the world :(

The CW will have more space this next season because they getting back into Sunday programming

ObiWan said:

I've never gotten into Supernatural but I almost think it's too much at this point. Now 14 seasons and 300 eps....I'm just overwhelmed now to ever make that leap and I marathoned every Star Trek series one time....

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I'll give you the same rundown I give anyone who hasn't watched yet, based on each period where the series has a different showrunner.

Seasons 1-5: It gets better every season. Seasons 4 and 5 are likely the peak of the series and two of the best seasons of genre television ever.

Seasons 6-7: Season 6 is a mixed bag that doesn't have a clear focus but has some great individual episodes. Season 7 is the worst in the series, though the mid-season finale is one of the best they've done.

Seasons 8-11: Ups and downs Season 8 is a return to form other than one minor plot line in the first half. It's one of my favorites, with the best season finale (other than 5) in the series. Unfortunately, it's followed by season 9, which is the second worst in the series. Season 10 is a solid season with a more personal arc. Season 11 is one of the best. Many fans will tell you it reaches the quality of seasons 4 and 5 again.

Seasons 12-13: I have loved these seasons. They introduced new elements and had a larger focus on the recurring cast members, which I think livened up the show. The brother drama was basically killed in season 11 and has only improved since then with some very satisfying moments.

In the end, I would say: 5 > 4 > 12 > 11 > 8 > 3 > 2 > 6 > 1 10 > 9 > 7.

So far, 13 would end up in that 12/11 area as well. Honestly, if you have the chance, the whole series is worth watching.

I wasnt kidding btw, if they put supernatural on my region's netflix I would binge that shit.

I would binge 13 seasons of Supernatural. Do it Netflix, I dare you.

Curler said:

Where does CW get their money?

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As has been said already WB and CBS make a fortune selling their CW shows Internationally. Arrow for example may be winding down in the US in terms of audience numbers but it's still big a draw for international audiences. Between Netflix (which airs first run Riverdale episodes in the UK) and Amazon (which airs Black Lightning but no other DCU show in the UK) alone they take a lot of CW's product.

cDNA said:

The CW will have more space this next season because they getting back into Sunday programming

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Again, their Sunday block just allows them more real estate to air shows that will then go out to the International broadcasters and streamers etc. I wouldn't be surprised if you see some CW shows pull in a 0.2 on a Sunday next season and still make a profit for the studios when output deals kick in.

The worldwide television market is extremely lucrative at the moment and with the 'streaming wars' just beginning it's big studios like WB and CBS who are really going to benefit.

Busty said:

As has been said already WB and CBS make a fortune selling their CW shows Internationally. Arrow for example may be winding down in the US in terms of audience numbers but it's still big a draw for international audiences. Between Netflix (which airs first run Riverdale episodes in the UK) and Amazon (which airs Black Lightning but no other DCU show in the UK) alone they take a lot of CW's product.



Again, their Sunday block just allows them more real estate to air shows that will then go out to the International broadcasters and streamers etc. I wouldn't be surprised if you see some CW shows pull in a 0.2 on a Sunday next season and still make a profit for the studios when output deals kick in.

The worldwide television market is extremely lucrative at the moment and with the 'streaming wars' just beginning it's big studios like WB and CBS who are really going to benefit.

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CBS All Access is coming to both Australia and Canada this June and they said they want to be available globally in the next couple years and will "double down" on content in 2018.

Would CBS not just put their shows they made for The CW there? And would WB not just put their DC shows on DC Online?

EDIT: In case I wasn't being clear, I'm not saying those shows wouldn't air on The CW, I'm saying more international broadcasting and streaming.

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CBS All Access is coming to both Australia and Canada this June and they said they want to be available globally in the next couple years and will "double down" on content in 2018.

Would CBS not just put their shows they made for The CW there? And would WB not just put their DC shows on DC Online?

EDIT: In case I wasn't being clear, I'm not saying those shows wouldn't air on The CW, I'm saying more international broadcasting and streaming.

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Now that CBS owns a TV Network in Australia, I wonder if they're going to put all that network's stuff behind a paywall.
But maybe that also means I can freely watch Australian TV on CBS All Access.

I don't mind when The 100 ends as long as it's given a proper conclusion. Same with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Fuzzy said:

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Yes! Might have been the best episode of the show yet.

Cornballer said:

The CW Renews 10 Series: 'Riverdale', All 5 DC Shows, 'Supernatural', 'Dynasty', 'Jane the Virgin' & 'Crazy Ex-Girlfriend'

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Wow.. I loved the CW... keep the shows going

Malvingt2 said:

Wow.. I loved the CW... keep the shows going

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Not iZombie!

Was iZombie cancelled? :(

Rhaknar said:

Was iZombie cancelled? :(

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They haven't announced its fate yet.

Rhaknar said:

Was iZombie cancelled? :(

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I seem to remember it was, but it looks like I just imagined that and it's still up in the air.

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Not iZombie!

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Rhaknar said:

Was iZombie cancelled? :(

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Not necessarily. The S4 renewal came in May last year. There's still hope.

Here, for the people that obviously didn't read the article.

Of the other CW midseason series, iZombie and newbie Life Sentence are on the bubble. iZombie, now in its fourth season, is in the middle of the pack ratings-wise and has established fan base. Meanwhile, Life Sentence is on shaky ground, logging the smallest Live+same day viewership and 18-49 rating among all CW scripted series this season and recently banished to Fridays after hitting a L+SD demo low mark of 0.1 rating. There is a glimmer of hope for the dramedy starring Pretty Little Liars' Lucy Hale, which has been a solid performer in delayed and digital viewing. That helped Riverdale to snag a Season 2 renewal last year, though renewal for Life Sentence is considered a long shot given its very low linear numbers . Pickup decisions on iZombie, Life Sentence and fellow midseason series The 100, whose new season is yet to premiere, are expected to go down down to the wire in May.

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