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Opa-Pa

One Winged Slayer
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Cia in Hyrule Warriors was incredible because not only dark skin = evil, but also evil = a whore probably?

It was the first game I played co-op with my little sister in ages, and having to explain to her why the lady with the same skin color as us had a white, good counterpart was lotsa fun.
 

SofNascimento

cursed
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21,374
São Paulo - Brazil
I'm not sure if this has been posted before as it is a bit old, but it is an interesting read (there is some nudity):

NSFW: A visual history of Shelly "Bombshell" Harrison - http://steamcommunity.com/games/562860/announcements/detail/1676902239539040353

Basically they show some hyper sexualized design from the mid and late 90s when the character was first imagined and how it changed over the years and eventually became this:

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DragonKeeper

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Nov 14, 2017
1,610
I'm not sure if this has been posted before as it is a bit old, but it is an interesting read (there is some nudity):

NSFW: A visual history of Shelly "Bombshell" Harrison - http://steamcommunity.com/games/562860/announcements/detail/1676902239539040353

Basically they show some hyper sexualized design from the mid and late 90s when the character was first imagined and how it changed over the years and eventually became this:

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The comments in that thread are infuriating.
 

Dary

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,419
The English Wilderness
I'm not sure if this has been posted before as it is a bit old, but it is an interesting read (there is some nudity):

NSFW: A visual history of Shelly "Bombshell" Harrison - http://steamcommunity.com/games/562860/announcements/detail/1676902239539040353

Basically they show some hyper sexualized design from the mid and late 90s when the character was first imagined and how it changed over the years and eventually became this:

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Oh boy, the comments...
Wouldn't mind a bit more nudity in the actual game. I mean cmon, she is female?
 

ShyMel

Moderator
Oct 31, 2017
3,483
Some of those designs are so over saturated I do not know how they could be sexually appealing to anyone.
 

Witch

Member
Jan 1, 2018
543
the moon
I'm not sure if this has been posted before as it is a bit old, but it is an interesting read (there is some nudity):

NSFW: A visual history of Shelly "Bombshell" Harrison - http://steamcommunity.com/games/562860/announcements/detail/1676902239539040353

Basically they show some hyper sexualized design from the mid and late 90s when the character was first imagined and how it changed over the years and eventually became this:

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Thank you, that was interesting. I like the 2015 design best.
The comments in that thread are infuriating.
lol, it's the Steam community. They're mostly kids, I assume.
 

Xaszatm

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,903
Even if they were kids, it'd still be pretty fucked considering that, well, it'd be indicative of kids being raised with misogynistic mindsets. Which is, obviously, not the way we want things to be going.

Plus, the fact that they think this is also a result of media constantly feeding the idea that women are objects and not...you know...people.
 

Opa-Pa

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
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Obviously tho, the media you consume has 0 effect in how people see the world around them so logically an overabundance of sexualized female characters in games cause no harm... Clearly!
 

Xaszatm

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Oct 25, 2017
10,903

atomsk eater

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Oct 25, 2017
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Guess I shouldn't have expected much more than a circlejerk over waifus in a survey about "what do you like in Japanese games," but it's weird they included stuff like subs/other languages, which seems more like a request than specific praise. Makes the inclusion of so many "boob, cute girl" responses extra glaring to me, like you had nothing else to display in terms of responses?
 

esserius

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Oct 26, 2017
7,296
It's not so much that evil is sexy as evil is objectified. It's rare that stories have much nuance regarding the bad guys, especially fantasy stories. Most of the time, the bad guy is just there to be bad, to give the heroes motivation or goals (or both). You're not going to see Legend of the Galactic Heroes pretty much ever again. And ironically, Legend of the Galactic Heroes is getting a reboot and... let's just say it looks disappointing.
 

Deleted member 5535

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It's not so much that evil is sexy as evil is objectified. It's rare that stories have much nuance regarding the bad guys, especially fantasy stories. Most of the time, the bad guy is just there to be bad, to give the heroes motivation or goals (or both). You're not going to see Legend of the Galactic Heroes pretty much ever again. And ironically, Legend of the Galactic Heroes is getting a reboot and... let's just say it looks disappointing.

It's a new adaptation more faithful to the Novel, not really a reboot.
 

Twig

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Oct 25, 2017
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I've been trying to find some good miniatures lately to paint for some of the people I'm playing D&D with.

I bought a really sweet turtle bard, my character, from Dark Sword Miniatures (link because it's awesome: https://www.darkswordminiatures.com/shop/index.php/turtle-bard-with-lute.html), so I thought I'd check out the rest of their selection.

My friend is playing a mage.

Search for mage.

Well okay here's a bunch of bare-breasted women performing rituals or just wearing bikinis.

They do have a lot of female minis that are good, but also it's overwhelmingly bad.
 

Ferrs

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Oct 26, 2017
18,829
And speaking of awful comments, Famitsu conducted a survey to see what people overseas think about their recent games and the results are out.

A sample:
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from: https://twitter.com/HDKirin/status/981548259406635008

there's also a thread here on it:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/fa...-what-do-you-like-about-japanese-games.28355/

Obviously cherrypicked. I did the survey and write some criticism but of course they don't show it. It's sad though that they decide to put a part about political correctess and feminazis. I'm sure there were more pro-japanese opinions not as dumb as that. But, Japan and all of that...
 

Akainu

Unshakable Resolve
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Oct 27, 2017
8,242
Everywhere and nowhere
See also:

Evil:

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Good:

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Not that subtle here...
Oh thats nothing.

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When you've gone off the deep end you just straight turn into a black person.

Anywho. Tried given Tera ps4 a try. Chose brawler which is gender/race locked for reasons. I ignored that being female meant that you were stuck in high heels and your tits were going to be hanging out constantly. But I had drew the line at riding side saddle.
 
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IceFireTerry

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Mar 17, 2018
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Oh thats nothing.

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When you've gone off the deep end you just straight turn into a black person.

Anywho. Tried given Tera ps4 a try. Chose brawler which is gender/race locked for reasons. I ignored that being female meant that you were stuck in high heels and your tits were going to be hanging out constantly. But I had drew the line at riding side saddle.
wow. he looks like a Drow
 

flare

▲ Legend ▲
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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh thats nothing.

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When you've gone off the deep end you just straight turn into a black person.

Anywho. Tried given Tera ps4 a try. Chose brawler which is gender/race locked for reasons. I ignored that being female meant that you were stuck in high heels and your tits were going to be hanging out constantly. But I had drew the line at riding side saddle.

Those three are the same dude...? Wow.
 

Redcrayon

Patient hunter
On Break
Oct 27, 2017
12,713
UK
Oh boy, the comments...
This was my favourite. Because a black female bomb disposal expert in tactical gear would apparently be the blandest possible idea imaginable following the completely-not-done-to-death girls with big tits, bikinis and guns.
Now, since feminists and sjws occupied mass media - character became more bland. I wont be surprised if final version of game will turn her black
 

Xaszatm

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Oct 25, 2017
10,903
This was my favourite. Because a black female bomb disposal expert in tactical gear would apparently be the blandest possible idea imaginable following the completely-not-done-to-death girls with big tits, bikinis and guns.

Just more proof of systemic racism as well as actual racism being alive and well...
 

Redcrayon

Patient hunter
On Break
Oct 27, 2017
12,713
UK
See also:

Evil:

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Good:

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Not that subtle here...
What I find hilarious about it is that, aside from skin colour and the idea of 'I've gone evil, time to lose my clothes and exchange my white-wedding-dress-attire for black skimpy combat lingerie!', she decided to keep the style of silly hat.
 

Xaszatm

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Oct 25, 2017
10,903
What I find hilarious about it is that, aside from skin colour and the idea of 'I've gone evil, time to lose my clothes and exchange my white-wedding-dress-attire for black skimpy combat lingerie!', she decided to keep the style of silly hat.

It really looks like she decided to wear a bra on her head...
 

Derpot

Member
Nov 18, 2017
483
France
This was my favourite. Because a black female bomb disposal expert in tactical gear would apparently be the blandest possible idea imaginable following the completely-not-done-to-death girls with big tits, bikinis and guns.

Their definition of "bland" is kinda ironic in this case. To them, a female character is "boring" and "bland" when she doesn't titillate and is not designed in a sexy way.
They actually don't realize "zettai-ryouiki-bikini-booby-moe-blobs" has been done so many times that it has become bland and unoriginal in a way, but they don't care and want more because they love it anyway.
According to their definition, are well-designed characters such as Lady Maria and Eileen from Bloodborne or Ana from Overwatch unoriginal and bland because they don't show skin enough?
 

Redcrayon

Patient hunter
On Break
Oct 27, 2017
12,713
UK
Their definition of "bland" is kinda ironic in this case. To them, a female character is "boring" and "bland" when she doesn't titillate and is not designed in a sexy way.
They actually don't realize "zettai-ryouiki-bikini-booby-moe-blobs" has been done so many times that it has become bland and unoriginal in a way, but they don't care and want more because they love it anyway.
According to their definition, are well-designed characters such as Lady Maria and Eileen from Bloodborne or Ana from Overwatch unoriginal and bland because they don't show skin enough?
As far as I could tell, the theme from the comments is that a) people like us don't understand that women have breasts and b) those breasts need to be on show.
 

Dreamboum

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Oct 28, 2017
22,871
The comments about the Bombshell is a good reminder how messed up people are living in their realities.
 

Derpot

Member
Nov 18, 2017
483
France
As far as I could tell, the theme from the comments is that a) people like us don't understand that women have breasts and b) those breasts need to be on show.

That's some flawless logic right there, alright.

The "women have breasts" is a bit funny because yeah alright, we do have breasts but that doesn't mean that breasts are always bigger than our heads.
And it's as if, in another dimension, female developers designed male characters and they thought "men have big muscular pecs, so let's show them all the time in any circumstances" and male characters basically look like Shigure from Berseria for example.
 

Dary

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A.J.

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh thats nothing.

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When you've gone off the deep end you just straight turn into a black person.

Anywho. Tried given Tera ps4 a try. Chose brawler which is gender/race locked for reasons. I ignored that being female meant that you were stuck in high heels and your tits were going to be hanging out constantly. But I had drew the line at riding side saddle.

Most alters are pale white actually. It's a bit silly, but I believe the reason Emiya alter is darker is more likely that making Emiya whiter would just return him to the original Shirou color scheme. Also implying that Emiya is more evil than Shirou is incorrect.
 

Valkerion

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Oct 29, 2017
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Ferrs

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Oct 26, 2017
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Aside from the gross "feminazi" comment how is the rest of that toxic?

The feminazi part is honestly enough to be considered toxic as fuck, but I also chuckled at the "people wo dare to venture into the unknwown like real man". Everything that its "do this like real man" sounds pretty toxic to me.
 

Velezcora

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Banned
Nov 16, 2017
3,124
The feminazi part is honestly enough to be considered toxic as fuck, but I also chuckled at the "people wo dare to venture into the unknwown like real man". Everything that its "do this like real man" sounds pretty toxic to me.

Oh yeah I missed that. Thats gross too.
Though funny when you realise the people spouting that are probably pasty ass neckbeard sporting fedora clad man babies.
 

esserius

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Oct 26, 2017
7,296
That Ushiwakamaru design is definitely... something. I might even say it was creative if it wasn't so aggressively stupid.

Oh Fate series... the porn that wanted to not be porn and racist has now doubled down on both.
 

A.J.

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Oct 25, 2017
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That Ushiwakamaru design is definitely... something. I might even say it was creative if it wasn't so aggressively stupid.

Oh Fate series... the porn that wanted to not be porn and racist has now doubled down on both.
Eh, the series is alot better off on the racism spectrum than it used to be considering one of the biggest works running right now Fate Strange/Fake has a dark skinned Native American Girl as a forefront main character and heroic spirits like Arjuna have become popular. A good chunk of the female designs are pretty dumb/bad though, I won't front for that. And granted Emiya alter could definitely have been better thought out along with beast possesed servants like Fake Ushiwakamaru, but I suppose that is a problem of letting certain artists have too much freedom.
 
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PtM

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Dec 7, 2017
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GameInformer said:
Lead producer of champions Ryan Mireles was forthright about this oversight. "We'll be the first to admit that Kai'Sa's neckline didn't land well with players and that it made her look unnecessarily sexualized, even if it that wasn't the intention." He discussed how the team wanted to give the character a unique look that showcased she was "a human wearing a Void-suit, rather than not a monstrosity created by the Void." Her plunging neckline wasn't in her initial design but was changed as a way to make her look more human. He notes that playtesters were more likely to interpret her as a human wearing a suit instead of a human that was corrupted once they made this change.
Blame the playtesters.
 
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