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Pravus

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Oct 28, 2017
438
I've been hunting all day doing tempered elders/tempered Jho and I've only gotten one streamstone augment. Super frustrating.
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
Member
Oct 24, 2017
34,402
Defence down comes from the blight you get from his breath I think.
Nah, it's the drool, as Geist 6one7 said. It was like that in Tri/3U too (and probably others).

Dragonblight removes the elemental effect from your weapon and maybe makes you take more damage from his breath (not sure about the last one, felt like it though).
 

Legacy

One Winged Slayer
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
15,704
How the actual fuck are you supposed to solo the azure rathalos in with those weapons in the 7th arena mission? I feel like I get closest with the Hammer but man, the Rath stun, burn and poison combo gets extremely annoying. Especially with no poison resistance
 

Anton Sugar

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,946
Is Triple Threat the best way to farm gems right now? I know it would mostly give dups but I'm more than ready to RNG the Melder.
 

DrArchon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,485
How the actual fuck are you supposed to solo the azure rathalos in with those weapons in the 7th arena mission? I feel like I get closest with the Hammer but man, the Rath stun, burn and poison combo gets extremely annoying. Especially with no poison resistance
Go to the back and spam the wall-run and sliding attacks that you can do. That's the only way to get good times.

If you don't care about times, DBs have 6 flash bombs and multiple traps.
 

KanameYuuki

Member
Dec 23, 2017
2,651
Colombia
Honestly, I think it would be a lot better if those extra sets were made for layered armor settings. Why would you make a Street Fighter set, that no one will use, cause it's a terrible low rank set? If it was made as a deluxe costume like Samurai I'm sure people would use it a lot. Same with the Festival set or even Queen Beetle set. It's almost like they doing this work for nothing.

What I find weird is how the new weapons are pretty good, on the realm of best, you can make even something out of Aloy's bow, but when it comes to armor they are dropping the ball hard and like you said wasting so much hard work from them, and even some from the players that grinded for them too.

How the actual fuck are you supposed to solo the azure rathalos in with those weapons in the 7th arena mission? I feel like I get closest with the Hammer but man, the Rath stun, burn and poison combo gets extremely annoying. Especially with no poison resistance

The answer is you shouldn't solo, Arena is meant to be played with another player, even solo the monsters have 2x players health multiplier, I was stuck there too and then someone helped me and it was a piece of cake, if you are adamant about it, the the best strategy is using hammer / DB and spam sliding/wall run atks like there is no tomorrow, but still expect a lengthy battle of 20min+ or so.
 

Grisby

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Oct 29, 2017
2,537
Hopped back in for a bit for this festival deal.

So what quests are you supposed to farm for those blossom tickets? I've been doing that "Every Hunter's Dream" one as well as some others and ain't nothing going. Also, has that Sakura quest come and gone yet?

Edit-Damn. Just saw the tickets are quest rewards for limited bounties.
 
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Hybris

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Oct 25, 2017
2,221
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Bow wall jump spam is a pretty brainless way to do it. If you are brave, the hammer set has heroics + vitality mantle and can get it done in sub 4 which is well below the A rank requirements so there's plenty of room to play "safe" even though you are in heroics health
 

H3rTz DoNuT

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Oct 30, 2017
1,100
Hopped back in for a bit for this festival deal.

So what quests are you supposed to farm for those blossom tickets? I've been doing that "Every Hunter's Dream" one as well as some others and ain't nothing going. Also, has that Sakura quest come and gone yet?

Daily login and daily bounties give you tickets, not events. Every Hunter's Dream is for the great sword.
 

Legacy

One Winged Slayer
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
15,704
Go to the back and spam the wall-run and sliding attacks that you can do. That's the only way to get good times.

If you don't care about times, DBs have 6 flash bombs and multiple traps.

Yeah, had to spam the wall run. Ended up completing in 29:39, close shave! Barely ever used the hammer before but it's decent, although slow at times.

The answer is you shouldn't solo, Arena is meant to be played with another player, even solo the monsters have 2x players health multiplier, I was stuck there too and then someone helped me and it was a piece of cake, if you are adamant about it, the the best strategy is using hammer / DB and spam sliding/wall run atks like there is no tomorrow, but still expect a lengthy battle of 20min+ or so.

I don't have anyone else online playing this at the moment (XB1). Is there a way to matchmake? I can never find another arena co-op to join. Seems everyone is hunting tempered elders.

EDIT: Makes sense about the HP, it feel like the monsters took much longer on solo
 

KanameYuuki

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Dec 23, 2017
2,651
Colombia
I don't have anyone else online playing this at the moment (XB1). Is there a way to matchmake? I can never find another arena co-op to join. Seems everyone is hunting tempered elders.

EDIT: Makes sense about the HP, it feel like the monsters took much longer on solo

Nope, that's the biggest problem with Arena, it expects you to play with someone else, but it is not open for everyone playing, only for those who are on your online session and they have to be on the hub too. Maybe try searching for online sessions and set it to search for Arena type missions, and then try your luck using chat to ask for some help, otherwise is the usual forum/boards, I don't have a Xbox but maybe try their LFG, no idea how that works tho.

X.x I will need some help tomorrow too for Ryu's costume, I don't like Arena at all, at least there is the Vespoid challenge for that quick daily bounty and getting 50 Arena trophy easier.
 

Anton Sugar

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,946
Oh my God, tickets are the Limited rewards!? Goddamn.

No matchmaking in Arena is bogus. I'd play it so much more.
 

Vilix

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,055
Texas
This festival reminds me of the seasonal events in PSO. I got the Ryu armor lastnight. I crafted the blossom armor head and chest piece today.

I wish more people hung out at the gathering hub. I would love to see what other characters look like.
 

RedStep

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
2,652
If any X-bros are gonna be on tonight, hoping to run Tempered Jho a few more times. I've been holding my own with the Hunting Horn, keeping Attack XL and Defense XL up the whole round (and getting my smacks in), but randoms have been carting all day and it's getting exhausting.
 

Bob Beat

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Oct 25, 2017
3,916
First tempered kush and got a warriors stream stone for ranged. At least i can unlock my armor. I thought that would take forever.
 

DrArchon

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Oct 25, 2017
15,485
X.x I will need some help tomorrow too for Ryu's costume, I don't like Arena at all, at least there is the Vespoid challenge for that quick daily bounty and getting 50 Arena trophy easier.
How is the Vespoid challenge? I checked it out but saw that there were no ranged weapons and nope'd out of there.

Fighting bugs that aren't hornetaurs with melee weapons is hell.
 

Gamer @ Heart

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Oct 26, 2017
9,639
Ah. So that's how it is. Probably makes the quest actually manageable.

I might try it out after I lose my mind grinding crown quests.
Ballista are one shot. Go in with 10 then pick up another 10 right next to it by the dragonater. Make sure to flash/trap the puki after the first volley of 10 so he doesn't hit you/break the ballista. Assuming you have somewhat decent aim, that's half the amount in under a minute.
 

Grisby

Member
Oct 29, 2017
2,537
Daily login and daily bounties give you tickets, not events. Every Hunter's Dream is for the great sword.
Yep. Thanks. Haven;t played in a while and I sank another hour and some change into it tonight. I do like this game.

Before I left the last time I ended up stopping at the quest with the three dragons because even with my newly upgraded armor (gotten from that hitbox cheap dragon boss that was just eeeggghhh) I was still getting one shotted, Had already put a lot of time into the game and my zenny was so low. Didn't feel like grinding for more money.

Anyways, game is still fun and I'll be trying to get those tickets.
 

KanameYuuki

Member
Dec 23, 2017
2,651
Colombia
Ah. So that's how it is. Probably makes the quest actually manageable.

I might try it out after I lose my mind grinding crown quests.

You can also use IG and do a pole jump and then circle, that way you can look good while doing that quest, only problem is that today I gotta do HR Arena, T-T no clue what to do then.

What a crappy day for crown hunt it was, I think I only got 1.
 
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LiK

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Oct 25, 2017
32,120
Nope, that's the biggest problem with Arena, it expects you to play with someone else, but it is not open for everyone playing, only for those who are on your online session and they have to be on the hub too. Maybe try searching for online sessions and set it to search for Arena type missions, and then try your luck using chat to ask for some help, otherwise is the usual forum/boards, I don't have a Xbox but maybe try their LFG, no idea how that works tho.

X.x I will need some help tomorrow too for Ryu's costume, I don't like Arena at all, at least there is the Vespoid challenge for that quick daily bounty and getting 50 Arena trophy easier.

Yah, no ability for people to easily join makes it a chore. I'm glad I'm part of a discord group with some Destiny buddies so we can do the tougher challenges quickly.
 

Bob Beat

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,916
I need to learn how to Great Sword so I can use the rocketblade.
Much better this game now that you can aim while charging.

Jagras was all bloated and i hit his belly for a 700 value. You can make short work of some of these guys.

Cutting tails and smashing anyone in there head really adds to the multiplayer.
 

PeacefulDream

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Oct 25, 2017
813
It's really satisfying poisoning poisonous monsters.

I'm the poison queen now, Rathian.

The Charge Blade SAED chain stun is real.
 

burgerdog

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,240
Was Tempered Jhos hp massively reduced? Just tried it online and it went down much faster than the surprise drop version.
 

cowbanana

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Feb 2, 2018
13,756
a Socialist Utopia
I can't decide between attack, affinity and health regen augmentation for the Jho hammer. I only have two stones, so I need to pick one to begin with. I augmented my Nerg and Vaal hammers with affinity and that seems to work well. But I'm thinking that the Jho hammer's low base affinity would make attack a better choice? I just don't know...
 
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I can't decide between attack, affinity and health regen augmentation for the Jho hammer. I only have two stones, so I need to pick one to begin with. I augmented my Nerg and Vaal hammers with affinity and that seems to work well. But I'm thinking that the Jho hammer's low base affinity would make attack a better choice? I just don't know...
It's all personal preference, but I went with affinity and health. Using maximum might and the affinity augment help get those crits when hammering the head.
 

Number45

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,038
X.x I will need some help tomorrow too for Ryu's costume, I don't like Arena at all, at least there is the Vespoid challenge for that quick daily bounty and getting 50 Arena trophy easier.
Happy to help out if I'm on later. I've used that quest to help me learn the GS (though I'm not super quick at it, he's insanely aggressive!)

How is the Vespoid challenge? I checked it out but saw that there were no ranged weapons and nope'd out of there.

Fighting bugs that aren't hornetaurs with melee weapons is hell.
I picked the hammer and just ran around smacking them (I've literally never touched hammer before) they're more than low enough to melee. Pukei-Pukei doesn't give you much trouble if you keep moving.
 

CampFreddie

A King's Landing
Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,961
I got lucky with my online filter search and found an arena session where about 8 people were actively doing PUG arena quests.
Azure rath was easy and quick with two people. He's much less of a pain when aggro is split two ways and you have twice as many flashbombs.

Same goes for the Ryu barroth. That was unexpectedly hard in SP but some helpful dude with the HBG was chaining knock-downs with my hammer.

For the vespid thing, I a-ranked it with IG and help from a CB guy.
Once you get used to the attack ranges, IG's vault makes the vespoids easy even when flying. You can even use pukei as a trampoline for reaching them with the flying O attacks.
 
Oct 27, 2017
11,514
Bandung Indonesia
Lol 2 people died at the same time getting stomped by Tampered Jho. Oh you pickle................

I can't decide between attack, affinity and health regen augmentation for the Jho hammer. I only have two stones, so I need to pick one to begin with. I augmented my Nerg and Vaal hammers with affinity and that seems to work well. But I'm thinking that the Jho hammer's low base affinity would make attack a better choice? I just don't know...

Always prioritize affinity over attack, it will give you much better damage overall.
 

Irrotational

Prophet of Truth
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Oct 25, 2017
7,173
Does save scumming for decorations still work?
Yes. It always will as far as I can tell because the save systems you're using are console wide.*

1. Make sure you have a backup of your live save.
2. Meld away and note everything down.
3. Delete that save and reload the backup save.

Note that quests sometimes count as moving you two rows on the table not one. So once you're within two rows of the meld you want, do a "throwaway" meld to move you one more row in the table and then meld properly to get your deco.

Note that every 3 quests will move you 4 rows in the table.

I've got a few critical eyes, critical boosts etc this way.

Note attack gems are weirdly rare. Someone else in the thread logged over 1200 rows of melds (so 3,600 decors) and they got one, yes one, attack deco.

It's easier to assume they don't exist.

*edit I realised this isn't true. They could patch their RNG algorithm to include time (from the system clock) in the seed. So every time you redid the melds they would be different. They haven't so far though. I'd love to know how their various RNG algorithms interact, because there may be reasons why they have to use a fixed seed.
 

Yoshichan

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
3,045
Sweden
Yes. It always will as far as I can tell because the save systems you're using are console wide.*

1. Make sure you have a backup of your live save.
2. Meld away and note everything down.
3. Delete that save and reload the backup save.

Note that quests sometimes count as moving you two rows on the table not one. So once you're within two rows of the meld you want, do a "throwaway" meld to move you one more row in the table and then meld properly to get your deco.

Note that every 3 quests will move you 4 rows in the table.

I've got a few critical eyes, critical boosts etc this way.

Note attack gems are weirdly rare. Someone else in the thread logged over 1200 rows of melds (so 3,600 decors) and they got one, yes one, attack deco.

It's easier to assume they don't exist.

*edit I realised this isn't true. They could patch their RNG algorithm to include time (from the system clock) in the seed. So every time you redid the melds they would be different. They haven't so far though. I'd love to know how their various RNG algorithms interact, because there may be reasons why they have to use a fixed seed.
Very cohorent and helpful post. Thanks so much!
 

acmshar

Member
Nov 26, 2017
235
I'm hoping the daily bounties aren't 1 random monster, 1 event quest, 1 challenge quest every day. The challenge quests are annoying, but that heavy armor sphere is pretty tempting. Might just have to get good at that barroth quest.
 

Number45

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,038
I'm hoping the daily bounties aren't 1 random monster, 1 event quest, 1 challenge quest every day. The challenge quests are annoying, but that heavy armor sphere is pretty tempting. Might just have to get good at that barroth quest.
As a benefit, I think you can use spare event tickets at the melder.
 

IvorB

Member
Oct 28, 2017
2,995
Can't really say I'm completely enjoying the post-game at the moment. The game just gives no indication at all what one should be doing and it's trawling through google to figure this out. Farmed tracks to unlock tier 1 tempered which didn't add anything new at all and the rewards suck (even carving becomes pointless). Worked to get tier 2 going and it's the same thing except seemingly with a small chance of slightly better decorations. Still no options at the blacksmith. Now it seems I've got to do this insane tempered My Little Pony fight (never unlocked the original) where pretty much every small mistake anywhere is a one/two-shot. I have hardly any avenues to gear up for it and at this rate I will only unlock augmenting when I get to the elder dragons at which point what content is actually left to gear up for? I can't understand why anyone would say this is the "real" Monster Hunter as I enjoyed the campaign a lot more.
 

Number45

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,038
The core gameplay loop is kill monsters > get new gear > kill monsters quicker, but it's not for everyone. Understand people start to feel a little lost (or lacking a motive to play) once the campaign is essentially over.

There are two event quests (can't remember the name, they're on the last page) designed to help you with finding threat 2/3 tempered investigations, FYI.

Thank you, my PSN is Josh-Shiki let me know when you are available at any time. Hope the following days daily bounties are low rank Arena challenges.
Added you. Should be on later from around 07:00 BST (I might be partied up but fire me a message or join the session I'm in if you can).
 

acmshar

Member
Nov 26, 2017
235
Can't really say I'm completely enjoying the post-game at the moment. The game just gives no indication at all what one should be doing and it's trawling through google to figure this out. Farmed tracks to unlock tier 1 tempered which didn't add anything new at all and the rewards suck (even carving becomes pointless). Worked to get tier 2 going and it's the same thing except seemingly with a small chance of slightly better decorations. Still no options at the blacksmith. Now it seems I've got to do this insane tempered My Little Pony fight (never unlocked the original) where pretty much every small mistake anywhere is a one/two-shot. I have hardly any avenues to gear up for it and at this rate I will only unlock augmenting when I get to the elder dragons at which point what content is actually left to gear up for? I can't understand why anyone would say this is the "real" Monster Hunter as I enjoyed the campaign a lot more.

Definitely agree aboutt he game not being clear about what to do even as early as after you end the story.

My current end game is building a few different sets and getting the parts for armor upgrades (I mostly played CB, but I'm building a DB and LS set and might grab one for bow as well), hunting tempered tier 2 monsters for decos and tier 3 for streamstones. Is there something else that people do in the end game? I'm having fun for now, but I can see how it'll become repetitive once I finish the armor sets and only go for the tempered investigations.

Unless I'm missing something, one big problem seems to be that there is no reason to do tier 1 investigations since tier two and three provide better decos and augment streamstones respectively. Is there a reason to do them that I'm missing.
 

Geist 6one7

Member
Oct 29, 2017
4,381
MASS
Definitely agree aboutt he game not being clear about what to do even as early as after you end the story.

My current end game is building a few different sets and getting the parts for armor upgrades (I mostly played CB, but I'm building a DB and LS set and might grab one for bow as well), hunting tempered tier 2 monsters for decos and tier 3 for streamstones. Is there something else that people do in the end game? I'm having fun for now, but I can see how it'll become repetitive once I finish the armor sets and only go for the tempered investigations.

Unless I'm missing something, one big problem seems to be that there is no reason to do tier 1 investigations since tier two and three provide better decos and augment streamstones respectively. Is there a reason to do them that I'm missing.
Only if you need streamstone shards for certain upgrades.
 

acmshar

Member
Nov 26, 2017
235
The core gameplay loop is kill monsters > get new gear > kill monsters quicker, but it's not for everyone. Understand people start to feel a little lost (or lacking a motive to play) once the campaign is essentially over.

There are two event quests (can't remember the name, they're on the last page) designed to help you with finding threat 2/3 tempered investigations, FYI.

Are these actually good if you already have investigations? I was planning to do the level 3 one to get one or two (hopefully not Vaal...), but I noticed with level 2 I seemed to build them up quicker by doing the ones I had. Anyone know if that is true?

Only if you need streamstone shards for certain upgrades.
Ah yea that makes sense. Actually that reminds me: is there a good reason to do the wyverian ritual level 1? I feel like it's probably only really worth doing for level 3 since the rates are supposed to be better. Any info on if one is better?

Edit: also, is there a squad on PS4 still for the forum?
 
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