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war is a counting stat

People argue this, but it certainly is not according to any reasonable mathematical definition.

"In statistics, count data is a statistical data type, a type of data in which the observations can take only the non-negative integer values {0, 1, 2, 3, ...}, and where these integers arise counting rather than ranking."

WAR ranks people and not by increasing whole integer numbers, by definition it cannot be a counting stat.

Also, it can decrease over time or be negative due to the player's performance or how the field of other players performs, which means whatever is being counted has an extremely variable meaning depending on the year. And that is also not counting.
 
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Mets reportedly calling up Corey Oswalt who has looked pretty good in the minors and this spring when I saw him. I wouldn't think much of it but considering Wheeler is up for the start tomorrow then this means someone is getting sent down from the bullpen or there is an unreported injury.

So Wheeler and Oswalt up and two of Robles, Sewald,or Rhame (all have options) down unless, again, there is an unreported injury.

It would seem a bit odd to send Rhame down at this point.

It could be to just get a fresher arm up for a bit, I guess.
 
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Mets reportedly calling up Corey Oswalt who has looked pretty good in the minors and this spring when I saw him. I wouldn't think much of it but considering Wheeler is up for the start tomorrow then this means someone is getting sent down from the bullpen or there is an unreported injury.

So Wheeler and Oswalt up and two of Robles, Sewald,or Rhame (all have options) down unless, again, there is an unreported injury.

It would seem a bit odd to send Rhame down at this point.

It could be to just get a fresher arm up for a bit, I guess.

Probably just trying to get another arm in there. Bullpen has pitched a lot these past few games.
 
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It might just be a case of Robles down today, Oswalt up, Oswalt down tomorrow, and Wheeler up for the start.

The conspiracy theorist would say, why a starting pitcher up for a possible one day relief role on the same day he was supposed to start at Las Vegas? Please don't be a deGrom injury.

I think we would have heard something by now if there was anything major, like an injury to a starter.
 

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lol pick off a runner throw the ball away.
single to the left fielder and have it go under his glove for two runs.

team looks great today :P

edit: can you not get an error by throwing away the ball during a run down after a successful pick off?
I mean the ball went off the glove while the runner fell to the ground dead to rights if that ball was caught o.O
 
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Anyone else watching this pirates/cubs game on right now?

Pirates look like the better team this year. I find it Pretty crazy that the Cubs window was only two years and they needed an epic collapse from Cleveland to get the one ring they did get.
 

zulux21

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Anyone else watching this pirates/cubs game on right now?

Pirates look like the better team this year. I find it Pretty crazy that the Cubs window was only two years and they needed an epic collapse from Cleveland to get the one ring they did get.
I mean it's early, and a single game.

there were plenty of times that the white sox looked like the better team then the other team they were facing... but in the long run they were not.
right now the rays look like a good team and the white sox look like a minor league team... which is like half right lol.
 

Lonewulfeus

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Remember when cubs fans were just lovable losers? Now they got a taste of winning and forgot what that felt like and over react to every loss
 

TheBeardedOne

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Remember when cubs fans were just lovable losers? Now they got a taste of winning and forgot what that felt like and over react to every loss

I don't pay enough attention to them, but if true that's too bad. I used to cheer for them as my NL team because of their lovable loser ways.

It sounds like they're becoming Oiler fans post Connor McDavid.
 

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Remember when cubs fans were just lovable losers? Now they got a taste of winning and forgot what that felt like and over react to every loss
My Mariners are lovable losers!! BUT some day we're gonna win the big one !!
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Link.

Another dubious mark was set Monday in South Florida, where the weather cannot be used as an excuse. Only 7,003 people showed up to watch the Miami Marlins lose to the New York Mets, the lowest paid attendance in Marlins Park's eight-year history. In six home contests against the Cubs, Red Sox and Mets — three teams that one would think would be good draws — Miami is averaging just 14,443 fans per game, down 29.1 percent from an already-low average in 2017, when the Marlins ranked 28th out of 30 MLB teams in attendance.
 

perfectchaos007

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Dodgers (3-6) and Yankees (5-5) are both off to slow starts. They're the favorites to play in the world series iirc the preseason Vegas odds correctly
 

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People argue this, but it certainly is not according to any reasonable mathematical definition.

"In statistics, count data is a statistical data type, a type of data in which the observations can take only the non-negative integer values {0, 1, 2, 3, ...}, and where these integers arise counting rather than ranking."

WAR ranks people and not by increasing whole integer numbers, by definition it cannot be a counting stat.

Also, it can decrease over time or be negative due to the player's performance or how the field of other players performs, which means whatever is being counted has an extremely variable meaning depending on the year. And that is also not counting.
Oftentimes, when people say something is a counting stat in a baseball conversation, they really mean a cumulative stat (as opposed to a rate stat). The technical mathematical definition probably isn't on their mind lol.
 

iareharSon

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Anyone else watching this pirates/cubs game on right now?

Pirates look like the better team this year. I find it Pretty crazy that the Cubs window was only two years and they needed an epic collapse from Cleveland to get the one ring they did get.

Our bullpen is questionable, and our defense is shaky - but our starting pitching and offense are surprisingly good. If we can sure up the bullpen, then I think we might actually be good long term? I think we have the young arms to sure it up, but I'm not sure if the organization is willing to place AAA starters like Kingham into those types of roles.

Even though we lost Cutch, with the resurgence of Marte and Polanco - and the additions of Dickerson and Moran - it's a much better situation then we found ourselves in the past two seasons.
 

THEVOID

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Anyone else watching this pirates/cubs game on right now?

Pirates look like the better team this year. I find it Pretty crazy that the Cubs window was only two years and they needed an epic collapse from Cleveland to get the one ring they did get.

It's April.

Pirates who couldn't even get past the WC game at thier peak is already talking shit. Damn....
 
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Jay Bruce started taking ground balls at 1B today.

Talk about weird timing when the whole idea of Bruce playing 1B would be to get Nimmo in the lineup.

Maybe just the beginning of preparations for 10 days from now when Nimmo can be recalled.

AGon has looked alright so far, I guess having depth and options is somewhat new for us Mets fans.

That said Sewald has pitched in one game this year (their only loss) so if you aren't going to use him I don't see how removing a bench player and adding another pitcher was necessarily the right move but hey at 8-1 so be it, I guess.
 
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I wouldnt say anything about "this team is actually really good this year" until like after the ASB

I remember watching that one Pirates video where they had one of their best records ever going into the ASB and then they didnt make the playoffs

The Cubs love starting slow too, no way in hell is their window closed with people like Rizzo and Bryant performing at a high level
 
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I wouldnt say anything about "this team is actually really good this year" until like after the ASB

I remember watching that one Pirates video where they had one of their best records ever going into the ASB and then they didnt make the playoffs

The Cubs love starting slow too, no way in hell is their window closed with people like Rizzo and Bryant performing at a high level
Rizzo has an OPS under .450 and is on the DL. It's ovah.
 
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