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I have 5800+ dust, and I'm debating crafting Edwin, Keleseth, and Tess since it looks like Rogue just looks fun right now.
I'm pretty much a f2p player and never have really opened any Rogue cards, so I'm itching to try a tempo rogue. Just don't know if I want to commit the dust to doing that even though I know Edwin will always be good and I can use Keleseth in other things.
And in case anyone mentions it, I opened Baku and Dollmaster Dorion my packs, and I got Lord Godfrey as my class card.
I'm pretty much a f2p player and never have really opened any Rogue cards, so I'm itching to try a tempo rogue. Just don't know if I want to commit the dust to doing that even though I know Edwin will always be good and I can use Keleseth in other things.
And in case anyone mentions it, I opened Baku and Dollmaster Dorion my packs, and I got Lord Godfrey as my class card.
I've been trying the deck recipe for mage, because I got all the cards for that. It's pretty fun, you can do some cool shenanigans with the copy a minion when you draw a minion, and the elemental that discounts card not in your opening deck.
Book of specters seems re hurt me more than it helps I feel like. I think I should cut them for something better.
Book of specters seems re hurt me more than it helps I feel like. I think I should cut them for something better.
you could make the same question when jade druid was tier 0. There is a new king in town and you bow to it or adapt.
So play aggro or quit. Well it's going to be interesting to see how that works out.
For me the biggest annoying card in Shaman is Healing Rain. I think its busted. I would nerf it to 4 mana or give it hefty overload.
I screwed around with Elemental Mage with Arugal. I can't empty my hand fast enough, lol. I think I need to cut some of the spell generation stuff and just put in Fireballs. Book of Specters is crazy and its easy as hell to get massive value off the spellstone.
Seems like Shudderwock is like quest rogue where the deck has horrible win rate but since is so frustraiting to play against, that in the end will be nerfed anyway.
That being said, Shudderwock isn't really that oppresive, I have seen lots of games where you never draw the shudderwock.
That being said, Shudderwock isn't really that oppresive, I have seen lots of games where you never draw the shudderwock.
Don't think I got the dust to make that happen but it does look fun from what I've seen. Is it favorable against Shudderwock?
I feel like on paper the even deck has the more broken cards, but odd has the more broken synergy since the hero power is gross. Odd uses weird cards like raid leader and frostlord warlord to disgusting effect.
Though just aggro pally with any card is also good, lol. So who knows.
Control warlock.
My problem with control warlock in previous meta was priest, right now it's better, maybe baku hunter is the worst match up.
Speaking of face collector, my opponent played 1 that gave him another face collector, who gave him another face collector.
Ah, three drop, so at least turn 6 to really use correctly. Thanks!
I tried playing some of that Midrange Token Hand Druid thing and what I've noticed is it never was a problem of filling the board with stuff to buff, the problem is you only have 4 good AoE buffs at less than 4 mana.
Whispering Woods might be worth playing, but it's not what that deck needed most. Waiting until turn 8 to Soul of the Forest or Adapt or whatever your stuff just isn't powerful enough. If i draw like 3 out of 4 of my cheap AoE buffs by turn 6 I win, if I draw 0 of 4 I lose. And this is in Wild where there's at least Mark of the Lotus and Fandral.
What feels like the best Buff to me for that deck is actually Witching Hour and Witchwood Grizzly. If you're against aggro, you often just win by playing Witchwood Grizzly. If you're against control, you can toss it in with Witching Hour to make your later combo turns much, much more difficult to deal with.
Whispering Woods might be worth playing, but it's not what that deck needed most. Waiting until turn 8 to Soul of the Forest or Adapt or whatever your stuff just isn't powerful enough. If i draw like 3 out of 4 of my cheap AoE buffs by turn 6 I win, if I draw 0 of 4 I lose. And this is in Wild where there's at least Mark of the Lotus and Fandral.
What feels like the best Buff to me for that deck is actually Witching Hour and Witchwood Grizzly. If you're against aggro, you often just win by playing Witchwood Grizzly. If you're against control, you can toss it in with Witching Hour to make your later combo turns much, much more difficult to deal with.
Isn't that just the echo effect though? Or was it on separate turns. The odds of that happening seem insane.
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Oh my God Firebat.
I havent laughed that much in a loong time xD
https://www.twitch.tv/playhearthstone
I havent laughed that much in a loong time xD
https://www.twitch.tv/playhearthstone
Acherus leaves behind a 2/1 body though, which is a bigger deal than it might seem. You need to get as much chip damage in as possible, especially early on. Leeroy sometimes gets stopped by taunts, but the games he wins you are worth it. If you think Pixie is doing work, then you can keep it in. It feels like it might be a little too slow to me, but I would have to experiment with it myself to see for sure.
I went from 15-10 yesterday with Face Hunter, but I don't think people had been experimenting with Odd Paladin yet. If Baku Hunter gets hard-countered by them, it might not be a good time to run the deck.
Edwin and Keleseth are definitely worthy crafts, but I would hold off on crafting Tess. It doesn't really fit in Tempo Rogue. It's a value card and people trying to force it into Tempo Rogue are doing it all wrong. Just look at the HSReplay stats for proof (sort by played winrate). Tess is the worst performing card in the deck.
I'd like to take this time to personally apologize to Darius Crowley for shitting on him when he was revealed. That card is so legit.
Sorry, but I'm not playing right now, can't copy the code.
It's control, not cube. So no skull, doomguard, cube, umbra, faceless or taldaram.
It says created(?) By face collector.
I'm reading this discussion of tempo https://www.icy-veins.com/hearthstone/what-is-tempo-in-hearthstone and I have a few quick questions.
Does the Battlecry mechanic always produce a tempo advantage?; and, why would certain deck archtypes prefer to be behind in tempo?
Does the Battlecry mechanic always produce a tempo advantage?; and, why would certain deck archtypes prefer to be behind in tempo?
### Mill Druid
# Class: Druid
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Raven
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# 2x (1) Lesser Jasper Spellstone
# 2x (1) Naturalize
# 2x (2) Plated Beetle
# 1x (2) Wild Growth
# 1x (3) Drakkari Enchanter
# 2x (3) Tar Creeper
# 2x (4) Astral Tiger
# 2x (4) Branching Paths
# 2x (4) Forest Guide
# 2x (4) Ironwood Golem
# 2x (4) Oaken Summons
# 1x (4) Spiritsinger Umbra
# 2x (4) Swipe
# 2x (5) Carnivorous Cube
# 2x (5) Druid of the Claw
# 2x (5) Nourish
# 1x (6) Spreading Plague
#
AAECAZICBOQIycICoM0C/eECDUBf6QG0BcrDApTSApjSAp7SAqjSAovhAoTmAurmAp75AgA=
Well I tried my hardest but I can't make mill druid a thing. Tried running mountain giants, druid of the claw, bewitched guardians, greedy sprites, ferocious howl and everything inbetween. It just can't get everything out fast enough and every part is so vunerable even with taunts. Above is best I could do but still not sure about the played beetles and drakkaari enchanter, oh well. A good pilot could probably get it to 15 as it can beat shaman, spiteful priest, odd hunter and cube warlock if you get everything out but theres no consistency. Making shamans concede when I mill their Shudderwock was funny though, happened 5 or so times.
# Class: Druid
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Raven
#
# 2x (1) Lesser Jasper Spellstone
# 2x (1) Naturalize
# 2x (2) Plated Beetle
# 1x (2) Wild Growth
# 1x (3) Drakkari Enchanter
# 2x (3) Tar Creeper
# 2x (4) Astral Tiger
# 2x (4) Branching Paths
# 2x (4) Forest Guide
# 2x (4) Ironwood Golem
# 2x (4) Oaken Summons
# 1x (4) Spiritsinger Umbra
# 2x (4) Swipe
# 2x (5) Carnivorous Cube
# 2x (5) Druid of the Claw
# 2x (5) Nourish
# 1x (6) Spreading Plague
#
AAECAZICBOQIycICoM0C/eECDUBf6QG0BcrDApTSApjSAp7SAqjSAovhAoTmAurmAp75AgA=
Well I tried my hardest but I can't make mill druid a thing. Tried running mountain giants, druid of the claw, bewitched guardians, greedy sprites, ferocious howl and everything inbetween. It just can't get everything out fast enough and every part is so vunerable even with taunts. Above is best I could do but still not sure about the played beetles and drakkaari enchanter, oh well. A good pilot could probably get it to 15 as it can beat shaman, spiteful priest, odd hunter and cube warlock if you get everything out but theres no consistency. Making shamans concede when I mill their Shudderwock was funny though, happened 5 or so times.
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I think that's what every echo card says after you play it the first time, though I'd have to double check to be certain.
Some battlecries hurt tempo, usually for a stat advantage. The 4/4 that freezes your other minions, for example. But battlecries are the main way to drive tempo in Hearthstone.
The more your deck fits a control archetype, the less reliant on tempo you are. A control deck tends to be reactive until the end game. A fatigue warrior or freeze mage, for example, is happy to just clear threats every turn until the very end.
that was a preorder cardback, so right now there is no way to get it, only if you preordered
No the red one. It's in the promo materials now. The green one is the preorder.
And when opponent has minions on board it's a joke :)
Does anyone own the cardback pins? I see them on ebay and was wondering if they are worth the scratch.
The monster dungeon run? It's blue
Just check it here for the red one
https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Card_back
I've been thinking of building it more midrange. A lot of the required cards are just solid cards that can feed into eventually being a combo kill.
Still probably get blown out by aggro, especially with Maelstrom gone.
Edit: Shudderwho?
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jabberwocky deck is still in it's early stages I except either to be fully optimized rather soon or to have a much stronger overall game with a different deck... the good thing about that card is that it could almost fit anything as long as the battlecries don't kill him
I've been running a similar deck and its fun, but a bit inconsistent, however I would recommend running 2 witchwood grizzlys and 2 ferocious howls instead of drakkari enchanter, umbra and plague.
devolve being gone might hurt more. If you cut the mandatory draw package you open up a lot of slots that allow you to contest the board
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