Buy/Sell/Trade Thread | Read the New Rules in the OP | Scammers Suck

WTS: Yakuza 6.

Game is brand new and unopened, it's the game and case from the collector's edition still wrapped in plastic. I just wanted the collector's edition goodies, but I'm all digital so I've no interest in the actual physical disc. Repeat: DOES NOT COME WITH DRINKING GLASSES AND COLLECTOR'S EDITION GOODIES, GAME ONLY.

$47 shipped.

WTT $20 nintendo for $20 PSN or Steam. (prefer PSN)

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this will only derail. have you reached out to the volunteers in private?

Wanted: Stealth UMD w/Wipeout demo for PSP.

If you have one laying around and are willing to let it go cheap, LMK. Mostly just curious about the included demo.

Bit of a Longshot, but my GCU has run out and I was wondering if someone was willing to hook a guy up with a copy of God Of War this week at cost. :)

Somewhatgroovy said:

this will only derail. have you reached out to the volunteers in private?

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Yep. Cloggerdude suggested I share here.

Does anyone have a source on how to price odd gaming memorabilia? I have a couple of old Nintendo Power Catalog Glow in the Dark Metroid Posters and no idea how to price them.


If this isnt appropriate to ask here, I'll delete.

Syriel said:

Wanted: Stealth UMD w/Wipeout demo for PSP.

If you have one laying around and are willing to let it go cheap, LMK. Mostly just curious about the included demo.

FYI, the Xbox One X is currently available new via Rakuten for $420.

https://slickdeals.net/f/11482659-1...4k-console-4-rakuten-points-420-free-shipping​

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i thought the Stealth UMD contained addon skin packs for ships which i think is available on gamefaqs

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i thought the Stealth UMD contained addon skin packs for ships which i think is available on gamefaqs

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Nope. They're just in the demo version on that disc. As a Wipeout geek, I figure I should check it out at some point. ;)

It's not very expensive, but I'd rather throw a few bucks at someone on Era (or trade em something for it) before doing the eBay thing.

digitalrelic said:

Hey all,

I'm disputing some negative feedback I recently received here, and it'd be really helpful for the community to chime in.

Please see my post here for details: https://www.resetera.com/threads/20...d-read-the-op-please.505/page-36#post-6820479

Thanks for your time

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Personally, I still feel that the negative is probably warranted, but I'd be okay with a neutral too.

The entirety of the situation seemed to have spanned just a few days in total, of which, it doesn't seem much patience was shown on your part.

The whole ordeal more or less started with the way you misread the situation/payment method, and sent over the wrong payment method. After realizing your mistake, you tried to correct it, which is fine, but when he didn't immediately respond, then it sort of goes into something much worse, and you started to send accusatory/aggressive messages to the other party, as if they were trying to scam you because they didn't respond to PMs in a time frame you felt was fair.

Several people who I've worked with here, at times, would be slow to respond to pm's, but would still post in the meantime. However, I don't send them messages that can be seen as aggressive, or even passive aggressive. I simply just send a pm to note that I wanted to check in with them on the status. And if they don't respond right away, or within a reasonable amount of time, I send them another pm again, and typically that's when they respond. I've yet to have any dealings that have actually gotten to a point where it just didn't work out as long as you are patient, and aware not everyone check PMs all the time, even if they do post all the time. You certainly don't send a message that accuses the person of ignoring you, and then followed by one with a threat of negative feedback. How was that supposed to help resolve your issue? I don't have the time stamp on this since it wasn't provided, but it also sounds like all of this happened within a 24 hour span with the messaging. When I noted reasonable amount of time, I don't feel this was one of those cases, and I think you jumped the gun, particularly with the escalation of the messages. Just felt there wasn't enough patience in a situation that was clearly your screw up.

You even admittedly noted that the other party did send the refund, and you were the one that didn't check Paypal enough to make sure it had been refunded.

From my perspective, if I dealt with someone who used the wrong payment method, then asks for a refund, then gets refunded, but then accuses me of ignoring them, and then threatening to leave me negative feedback; I'm sorry, but I would not be a happy camper, and would feel like the person who has been wronged, since, I was the person that was wronged by the other person's initial mistake anyways.

Negative feedback seems fair in this case, but I'm not opposed to neutral neither if that's what it ends up, but I can certainly understand why the other person would leave the negative there.

And let me know if there's something that's incorrect from the situation. I'm only going off of what's provided from the timeline/details in the feedback thread.

WTS

Superman Rebirth Volume 1-2 22$

Detective Comic Rebirth 1-2 22$

All Star batman Hardcover Sealed Volume 1 15$

Wonder Woman Rebirth Volume 1 9$

Green Arrow Rebirth Volume 1-2 22$

Titans Rebirth Volume 1 10$

Suicide Squad Rebirth Volume 1 10$

Wonder Woman The New 52 Volumes 1-6 52$ Volumes 3,6 are hard cover

Birthright Volume 1-5 35$

Walking Dead Heres Negan Sealed 12$

Seven to Eternity Volume 1-2 15$

Sex Criminals Volume 1-4 25$

Prices Shipped

Negative is not warranted because neither lost what was offered to the table. We should not overthink this and qualify people on the basis of anecdotes and your own personal boundaries. If you have no respect for your own time and are okay with someone fucking off for days before getting back to you, you do you. Some basics should remain in play, regarded and respected when it comes to these issues. Communication is one of them.

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Personally, I still feel that the negative is probably warranted, but I'd be okay with a neutral too.

The entirety of the situation seemed to have spanned just a few days in total, of which, it doesn't seem much patience was shown on your part.

The whole ordeal more or less started with the way you misread the situation/payment method, and sent over the wrong payment method. After realizing your mistake, you tried to correct it, which is fine, but when he didn't immediately respond, then it sort of goes into something much worse, and you started to send accusatory/aggressive messages to the other party, as if they were trying to scam you because they didn't respond to PMs in a time frame you felt was fair.

I've yet to have any dealings that have actually gotten to a point where it just didn't work out as long as you are patient, and aware not everyone check PMs all the time, even if they do post all the time

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He's not being patient? Give me a break. We can't equate people's patience levels and start advocating for rules on the back of how long you think it's okay for people to fuck off and not respond? Are we going to make rules now dictating specific guidelines on when how long it's okay to go without a response? Who decides that time line? You?

You are literally advocating for a desrespectful transaction. People's time IS money and we all have a lot on our plate. This is about opportunity cost. When you engage with someone, it is respectful to and professional to communicate. The time where you do neither is time lost that they could have engaged with someone who does. That's where communication comes in, to set boundaries and expectations. On one hand, people complain that they're left in the dark on things and here you argue just for that which is a very odd take. It takes but a sec to reach out and say 'hey, got your message, wrapping up some things and will set back down and work on the refund" instead of going elsewhere to lob hot takes in non paying threads. It's a matter of respect. I'm not sure how you came away from that story with a picture that digitalrelic was being aggressive or even passive aggressive, after it's clear he's blatantly being called stupid by the 'wronged' party.

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From my perspective, if I dealt with someone who used the wrong payment method, then asks for a refund, then gets refunded, but then accuses me of ignoring them, and then threatening to leave me negative feedback; I'm sorry, but I would not be a happy camper, and would feel like the person who has been wronged, since, I was the person that was wronged by the other person's initial mistake anyways.

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None of this absolves anyone from communication.

Lesson here is: communication. Brought to you by the letter C.

LAslty, the situation still sucks when the roles are reversed. I reached out to help this person https://www.resetera.com/posts/6681680/, even went out of my way to put in the order, and was never paid (which is fine bb/c it's easy to cancel). Would I, by your logic, be an asshole for reaching out and asking if they were still interested in going through with the transaction and to pay me? Would i be aggressive doing so in a day? two? So you see, the perspective is different when you're a buyer or seller but the effect is all the same. We can't make exceptions to the rules depending on when you're one or the other.

WTB a digital copy of Toy Story 3

digitalrelic said:

Hey all,

I'm disputing some negative feedback I recently received here, and it'd be really helpful for the community to chime in.

Please see my post here for details: https://www.resetera.com/threads/20...d-read-the-op-please.505/page-36#post-6820479

Thanks for your time

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yeah. if that hasn't been rectified, and only you, then its not going to because that's what the other user wants; i don't blame him either - you agitated and aggravated him. i've had negative experience before with the other party as well, and that's not going to change.

but objectively, for your issue, just move on since it was mostly your fault mate. i do understand you want it fixed, because who does not, but it does suck because your rep is tarnished, but again, as with anything in life, it is what it is.

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Negative is not warranted because neither lost what was offered to the table. We should not overthink this and qualify people on the basis of anecdotes and your own personal boundaries. If you have no respect for your own time and are okay with someone fucking off for days before getting back to you, you do you. Some basics should remain in play, regarded and respected when it comes to these issues. Communication is one of them.



He's not being patient? Give me a break. We can't equate people's patience levels and start advocating for rules on the back of how long you think it's okay for people to fuck off and not respond? Are we going to make rules now dictating specific guidelines on when how long it's okay to go without a response? Who decides that time line? You?

You are literally advocating for a desrespectful transaction. People's time IS money and we all have a lot on our plate. This is about opportunity cost. When you engage with someone, it is respectful to and professional to communicate. The time where you do neither is time lost that they could have engaged with someone who does. That's where communication comes in, to set boundaries and expectations. On one hand, people complain that they're left in the dark on things and here you argue just for that which is a very odd take. It takes but a sec to reach out and say 'hey, got your message, wrapping up some things and will set back down and work on the refund" instead of going elsewhere to lob hot takes in non paying threads. It's a matter of respect. I'm not sure how you came away from that story with a picture that digitalrelic was being aggressive or even passive aggressive, after it's clear he's blatantly being called stupid by the 'wronged' party.

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None of this absolves anyone from communication.

Lesson here is: communication. Brought to you by the letter C.

LAslty, the situation still sucks when the roles are reversed. I reached out to help this person https://www.resetera.com/posts/6681680/, even went out of my way to put in the order, and was never paid (which is fine bb/c it's easy to cancel). Would I, by your logic, be an asshole for reaching out and asking if they were still interested in going through with the transaction and to pay me? Would i be aggressive doing so in a day? two? So you see, the perspective is different when you're a buyer or seller but the effect is all the same. We can't make exceptions to the rules depending on when you're one or the other.

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communication is key; as with any business transaction. even though this is a buy/sell trade thread, rep is key. and what is feedback used for if not how to conduct business. i don't like the other party and have henceforth refused to conduct future business with them, but the buyer is in the wrong here. if the role was reversed at any retail or online commerce, the buyer would be scot free of repercussions. what we need here is accountability from buyers - and this is a good example to set to pave a field where business conduct can be liable for both sides.

money was exchanged, refunded, and the buyer was impatient which led to aggravation.

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yeah. if that hasn't been rectified, and only you, then its not going to because that's what the other user wants; i don't blame him either - you agitated and aggravated him. i've had negative experience before with the other party as well, and that's not going to change.

but objectively, for your issue, just move on since it was mostly your fault mate. i do understand you want it fixed, because who does not, but it does suck because your rep is tarnished, but again, as with anything in life, it is what it is.

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I don't need a response from Noren, that's not what my post was about. I read the FAQ on the feedback thread and read this:

The community can decide to lessen the severity of feedback
All this means is that if feedback is left that is not appropriate, the community's opinion can influence the recording of that feedback. Let's say someone leaves Negative Seller feedback because an item arrived one day after what they were originally promised. If the general consensus from the community is that this feedback is overly harsh for what occurred, then the feedback could be downgraded to Neutral or even simply not recorded at all.

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And then, after checking with Cloggerdude, decided to make my post to let the community chime in on the feedback. It doesn't matter if Noren decides not to rescind his feedback, as the community has a say here.

Neutral for both with a link to the posts on the sheet if possible

Sorry.

きゃりーぱみゅぱみゅ said:

I apologize if I'm breaking the 150 post rule, but there's a game coming next week I really want.

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In that case, just edit your prior post.

"I really want it" doesn't work, otherwise everyone would be bumping this thread because they "really want" to sell something or "really want" to buy something.

Sold codes.

I vaguely remember this situation - the fact that you removed your negative feedback and he refused to tells me a lot.

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In that case, just edit your prior post.

"I really want it" doesn't work, otherwise everyone would be bumping this thread because they "really want" to sell something or "really want" to buy something.

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FIGHT ME DEMON, if I want those Yakuza 6 glasses I will glass u to get em~

BronsonLee said:

I vaguely remember this situation - the fact that you removed your negative feedback and he refused to tells me a lot.



FIGHT ME DEMON, if I want those Yakuza 6 glasses I will glass u to get em~

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Needs glasses? Sounds legit.

I was involved in a hit and run accident on Friday March 30th, unfortunately my insurance decided to total my car so I don't have anything for me and my husband to get to work. Selling my stuff! These prices are negotiable but the whole point is so I can get a down payment together to get another car. So if you can help by buying my stuff or whatever I appreciate it!!! Thank you to the people that have helped me so far!

PLAYSTATION [N=NEW IN BOX, U=USED]

• Akiba's Beat (U) - $15
  
• Arslan The Warriors of Legend (N) - $15
  
• Dragon Quest Builders (N) - $22
  
• Final Fantasy Type 0 HD (U) - $15
  
• Grand Kingdom Limited Edition (N) - $50
• Psycho-Pass: Mandatory Happiness Collector's Edition (N) - $60
  
• Sonic Mania (Digital Code PS4) - $17
  
• Star Ocean: Integrity and Faithfulness (N) - $20
• Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization (N) - $15
  
• Sword Art Online: Lost Song (N) - $15
  
• Tokyo Twilight Ghost Hunters Daybreak (N) - $15
• Until Dawn (U) - $13
• Yakuza 2 (PS2, New) - $40

NINTENDO

• Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE Limited Edition (N) - $70
• SNES Classic Euro(N) - $100
• Super Famicom Classic JP(N) - $100
• Nintendo 3DS Flare Red JP (U) - $115

GUIDES

• Star Ocean I&F Hardcover Guide (N) - $27
  
• Final Fantasy Type 0 Hardcover Guide (N) - $22

OTHER

• Huawei 42mm Smartwatch Silver, Mesh Band - $100
• Barefoot Gen 1 & 2 (Blu Ray) - $15

Paypal Gift or Pay the Fees please. Send PMs for offers or more details!

WTB: EVGA GTX 980 Classified

Can pay $375 CAD shipping included to Winnipeg.

I need a 900 series card for the DVI-I port, and this looks to be the best one that isn't a bank-breaking Ti.

ragnar14 said:

It wasn't selling here (and honestly it doesn't feel right asking that price here). So I tossed it on eBay. It's EASILY worth $50, I threw it up for $75CAD expecting somebody to throw me a reasonable offer. Nobody did, a couple hours after I listed it somebody snapped it up for the full asking price.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/142759435343
That's more than I paid for my preorder of *the game*.

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Appreciate the follow up.
Not bad at all, congrats. I guess there's not much supply left, but people do want it. Maybe I'll sell it there too.

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WTS:

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Hey, just FYI, these two posts were only 78 posts apart. Rule is 150 between WTB/WTS posts.
Also, I know the eShop code is already sold, so it would be helpful to update the post so people don't PM when it's not available (like me). 30% off on digital codes are hot.

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I guess you glossed over the rest of the part, and his own admittance, that every part of the transaction was his fault to begin with.

You can preach time is money all you like, but the core of the issues from that transaction was not about patience, but about all of the parts he fucked up as a result of his own misunderstanding, and lack of attention to detail.

I provided my perspective on the matter, and from my perspective, patience could've been warranted. You're also now implying the other party's time was not valuable. Not to mention, the other party already refunded the transaction. His part was done, and that should've been it.

So if the seller in this case sent him a message after being accused of ignoring the buyer, telling him the refund was already processed, which the buyer could've easily just checked Paypal if they really felt it was that pressing, what would have been different from the seller's perspective? The buyer was the one who initiated the mistake, the seller here rectified it. And now the buyer is sending him messages with accusation of ignoring him, and then threatening to leave a negative feedback.

Patience aside, please tell me how the buyer was not in the wrong in this case.

Again, as I've noted, I'm fine with a negative, or a neutral, but I can certainly understand why it could stay a negative.

WTS
$4 (have 3) - 20% off NA PSN coupon . Exp April 30th, 2018. Doesn't work on preorders or subscriptions.

Paypal, buyer pays fees.

EDIT: Mistype. Buyer did not send a screenshot of the seller's information. It was the other way around. I fixed it below as well.

Not to get into who is at fault in the exchange, I think it is of mean-spirit to give someone negative feedback for a misunderstanding. The buyer obviously felt the seller's lack of communication was a red flag (usually is a common red flag for scammers on this site), and while the refund was processed, the seller got defensive at these accusations on the thread when it could've been avoided by simply replying to the buyer as a courtesy. All of this isn't about a small $8 transaction but instead how the two users unprofessionally handled an extremely low-stakes situation. I remember clearly the seller even posting a screenshot of the buyer's personal information (which was a mistake on his part that he removed soon after), and yet the seller didn't seem to be very understanding to others' mistakes. Odd. I believe Neutral Feedback would be appropriate just as a warning to others in the future as to who was involved in this transaction.

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yet the buyer didn't seem to be very understanding to others' mistakes. Odd. I believe Neutral Feedback would be appropriate just as a warning to others in the future as to who was involved in this transaction.

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But he was understanding, which is why he sent the refund.

Lack of communication, and lack of action are two different things to me. He gave the person a refund before the buyer started to send messages, and then start to post in the thread about the situation.

This whole situation could've been avoided from the start if the buyer just read more carefully about payment method. We can talk in hypothetical all we want, but the facts presented by the buyer admitted the repeated mistakes that were continuously made on his part.

It's mean spirited to send messages to someone who has already resolved the issue that you keep sending them messages for, and messages that are rude, and hostile.

Wow, you have quite the definition of mean spirited and your input here remains completely one sided, absolving the other other party of any responsibility for their own inaction and their own hostility.

WTB Quake Champions key from Alienware Arena Giveaway, if someone has one. Thanks.
https://eu.alienwarearena.com/ucf/s...ake-champions-steam-early-access-key-giveaway

Edit: Got it!

nm

digitalrelic said:

Hey all,

I'm disputing some negative feedback I recently received here, and it'd be really helpful for the community to chime in.

Please see my post here for details: https://www.resetera.com/threads/20...d-read-the-op-please.505/page-36#post-6820479

Thanks for your time

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If I remember correctly, you were being aggressive to the seller about not getting a refund. You then had time to repeatedly message the seller and post negative feedback in the thread, but didn't have time to check your Paypal transactions, when he refunded you a day earlier. Honestly, I think the seller just got fed up with dealing with you and his feedback reflects that. I don't excuse his lack of response, and no money or goods were exchanged in the end, but I can see how the negative feedback would stay.

I think a neutral feedback with a side note link to posts would be good.

Mistakes were made, but were they malicious or just plain stupidity? I've done stupid things before, and I'd be upset if someone didn't at least give me a play on one dumb situation I've had.

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Not to get into who is at fault in the exchange, I think it is of mean-spirit to give someone negative feedback for a misunderstanding. The buyer obviously felt the seller's lack of communication was a red flag (usually is a common red flag for scammers on this site), and while the refund was processed, the seller got defensive at these accusations on the thread when it could've been avoided by simply replying to the buyer as a courtesy. All of this isn't about a small $8 transaction but instead how the two users unprofessionally handled an extremely low-stakes situation. I remember clearly the buyer even posting a screenshot of the seller's personal information (which was a mistake on his part that he removed soon after), and yet the buyer didn't seem to be very understanding to others' mistakes. Odd. I believe Neutral Feedback would be appropriate just as a warning to others in the future as to who was involved in this transaction.

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To be clear, as I've seen this mixed up a few times already:

I didn't post Norens personal information. He posted mine.

Not gonna take sides because I don't really think it's important, but some words of advice:

1) Read all directions from sellers. We have them there for a reason. You won't believe the losses we get because people misread our instructions on how we want payment.

2) Communication is key.

3) Patience is also key. I regularly don't read PMs while I browse and post on here. Is it because I'm trying to provide a slow service? No, it's because I'm not home to actually do business and if I read the PM on my phone, then I'll forget to actually do what I need to do by the time I get home. I like the "Unread Message" notification because it reminds me that I have business to attend to.

Question with PayPal changes, how do you sell the lower cost stuff like keys form the monthly?

WTB

PSN (US) giftcard codes $50 total

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To be clear, as I've seen this mixed up a few times already:

I didn't post Norens personal information. He posted mine.

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oh fuck that guy. i knew he was a c*** even back then. posting people's personal info is a no-no.

so if anything, both of you are in the wrong, if it were me, both of you should get negatives. one for lack of reading comprehension as a buyer , and one for maliciously posting private information as a seller. if you say that the seller 'forgot', then i will say at that point in time that seller has done many transactions already and should know protocol by now.

what's the point of having a feedback system 'negatives' if its main use is for scammers (who get banned anyways) and not having a baseline of how to do business and conduct themselves accordingly. its par for the course if people forget about 'image sizes' or 'posting before 150'.

WTB

US PSN credit $50
The Legend of Zelda BOTW Expansion Pass (Switch)
Dark Souls 3 + DLC (PC)
Coco 4K digital code
Overwatch GOTY PC

N/m found one.

Cloggerdude said:

I'm on vacation right now, but I'll post my feelings about the feedback in the actual Feedback thread later. I would suggest that any further discussion be moved there. I just wanted Digital to post it here for a little more visibility.

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I thought that feedback discussion was supposed to be in this thread since literally noone reads that thread except those updating the feedback list?

domthybomb said:

WTS
$4 (have 3) - 20% off NA PSN coupon . Exp April 30th, 2018. Doesn't work on preorders or subscriptions.

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Hopefully, you still have these and the Golden week sale starts the 30th as well... It's almost time to stuff my cart with games I won't play for a long time from now.

Anyone want to buy an Xbox One X 430 shipped?

Cornbread78 said:

Hopefully, you still have these and the Golden week sale starts the 30th as well... It's almost time to stuff my cart with games I won't play for a long time from now.

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PSN updates on a Tuesday though. Which would be May 1st.

domthybomb said:

PSN updates on a Tuesday though. Which would be May 1st.

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dammit, I though Tuesday was the 30th.. : (

Cloggerdude said:

Don't get me wrong, you can discuss it wherever. I just think that, since it's been announced now and people know about it, it might be better to redirect to the Feedback thread. There's absolutely nothing stopping anyone from talking about it here though.

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Oh okay. Fair enough. Thanks!