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Westworld |S2| \W/ が遊びたい - Sundays on HBO

jett

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Is it me or is the video quality on HBO GO kinda trash, first time using it. Looks worse than Netflix. Still acceptable all things considered, probably a tad better or about the same as the cable feed. I guess I shouldn't complain much, I get it for free with my cable provider. :P

This was strong episode. Nothing mindblowing or revelatory, but things seems to be heading down interesting paths. Seems they're over trying to trick the audience by making the timeline changes more obvious.

I'm disappointed that the parks ended up being on some island in China or wherever. Pretty lame compared to my own outlandish ideas. I guess if we see the outside world it won't be that interesting.
 
The Unsent

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It was good, I like William's little reaction to the horse. Bernand is screwing up like Dolores in S1 and his scenes are messed up.
 
Punished Goku

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SweetNicole said:
If I am following correctly so far...
  • There's the timeline in the present (two weeks after the events of S1) with Bernard and Ashley Stubbs.
  • There's the timeline in the recent past (the time between the two weeks) with Bernard and Charlotte Hale.
  • There's the Dolores timeline in the recent past (the time between the two weeks) with herself, Teddy, and some of the other hosts.
  • There's the Man in Black timeline in the recent past (the time between the two weeks) by himself.
  • Judging by previews for the future, there's a timeline involving the creation/setup of WestWorld being added as well.
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Jesus, this is it going to be so confusing.
 
taahahmed

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jett said:
Is it me or is the video quality on HBO GO kinda trash, first time using it. Looks worse than Netflix. Still acceptable all things considered, probably a tad better or about the same as the cable feed. I guess I shouldn't complain much, I get it for free with my cable provider. :P
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Watching on HBO Now and yeah the quality is terrible. Looks like 480p.
 
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Chuck Noblet

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That was a really good season opener. The chaos in the park is really fun to see unfold. Just straight up murder and mayhem everywhere. It's interesting that Bernard with the soldiers is a 2 week time skip, while it looks like everything else is right after the end of last season. Dark Delores is making me feel things.

The preview for the season looks exciting. I really hope we get more references to outside the park. The soldiers in the greenish uniforms in the beginning, they are from a nearby country I guess? So this is on Earth and in a island in the Pacific somewhere.

I want to see outside the park this season. I know the preview showed a modern setting but that might just be future world.
 
SweetNicole

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Punished Goku said:
Jesus, this is it going to be so confusing.
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Really, the easiest way to follow this is:
  • Present (Two weeks after current events)
  • Past (Time between end of S1->Present)
  • Far Past
Right now, we've only seen Bernard and Stubbs in the Present, with a cameo by Teddy at the end. Everyone/thing else so far has been in the Past. We have not seen any of the Far Past this episode, but it was hinted at in the previews.
 

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I was really hoping for Teddy to survive the show.

It'll be interesting to see whether or not Dolores kills Teddy and, if she does, why.
 
Punished Goku

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SweetNicole said:
Really, the easiest way to follow this is:
  • Present (Two weeks after current events)
  • Past (Time between end of S1->Present)
  • Far Past
Right now, we've only seen Bernard and Stubbs in the Present, with a cameo by Teddy at the end. Everyone/thing else so far has been in the Past. We have not seen any of the Far Past this episode, but it was hinted at in the previews.
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Fuck I hope it isn't the case.
 
Ashdroid

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jett said:
Is it me or is the video quality on HBO GO kinda trash, first time using it. Looks worse than Netflix. Still acceptable all things considered, probably a tad better or about the same as the cable feed. I guess I shouldn't complain much, I get it for free with my cable provider. :P
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In my experience, the quality is bad during high-demand times (so, during the premiere of a new GoT or Westworld episode), but if I wait an hour or so to watch the episode, then it's fine.
 
cLOUDo

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SweetNicole said:
Really, the easiest way to follow this is:
  • Present (Two weeks after current events)
  • Past (Time between end of S1->Present)
  • Far Past
Right now, we've only seen Bernard and Stubbs in the Present, with a cameo by Teddy at the end. Everyone/thing else so far has been in the Past. We have not seen any of the Far Past this episode, but it was hinted at in the previews.
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Yep
I don't see the confusion in here, very clearly

I wonder what happened with Felix and Armistice, Maeve should be close to them somewhere in the HQ
 
ForgeForsaken

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20 minutes into the future.
SweetNicole said:
Really, the easiest way to follow this is:
  • Present (Two weeks after current events)
  • Past (Time between end of S1->Present)
  • Far Past
Right now, we've only seen Bernard and Stubbs in the Present, with a cameo by Teddy at the end. Everyone/thing else so far has been in the Past. We have not seen any of the Far Past this episode, but it was hinted at in the previews.
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The "present" might be the past too, going by the interview with Bernard and Dolores at the start about the dream.
 
Teiresias

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SweetNicole said:
Really, the easiest way to follow this is:
  • Present (Two weeks after current events)
  • Past (Time between end of S1->Present)
  • Far Past
Right now, we've only seen Bernard and Stubbs in the Present, with a cameo by Teddy at the end. Everyone/thing else so far has been in the Past. We have not seen any of the Far Past this episode, but it was hinted at in the previews.
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Yeah, this was so clear I don't know how people follow anything that isn't strictly linear anymore. This episode was simply either events immediately after the initial attack or two weeks after, made completely clear by placement of people and the events surrounding them.
 
The Unsent

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The intro changed so it's a robot mother holding a child instead of having sex with another robot, among other changes. Not that it means robots can give birth.
 

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So there's at least 7 parks going by what he said during the bengal scene. I wonder how many they'll touch on?
 

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jett said:
Is it me or is the video quality on HBO GO kinda trash, first time using it. Looks worse than Netflix. Still acceptable all things considered, probably a tad better or about the same as the cable feed. I guess I shouldn't complain much, I get it for free with my cable provider. :P

This was strong episode. Nothing mindblowing or revelatory, but things seems to be heading down interesting paths. Seems they're over trying to trick the audience by making the timeline changes more obvious.

I'm disappointed that the parks ended up being on some island in China or wherever. Pretty lame compared to my own outlandish ideas. I guess if we see the outside world it won't be that interesting.
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Yes HBO Go's quality has always been shit. It makes no sense.
 
Kschreck

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I used HBO Now and other then a couple temporary freezes early on, I didn't have any additional issues. Quality seemed like streaming 1080p quality on my end. Not amazing but good enough. Sound could have been a bit better but oh well. I used a PS4 Pro, 4K tv and a 50mb internet connection.
 
TaleSpun

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My assumption is the red cards are high value human employees, but obviously nothing is to be taken at face value.

It'd be interesting if they were for high value assets, but don't actually specify whether the person is a human or a host, only that Delos sees them as a priority.
 
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I turned it off halfway through. Either I'm not in the mood for Westworld right now or it's well below my expectations. I don't think this is a good episode at all. I think I'll wait until the season is over and then binge it.
 
Orion

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Thor's brother sure was absent a long time... I wonder if he's the secret bot this season.
 
SweetNicole

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So, did anyone catch the fact that Bernard killed all of the hosts? When he was doing the mesh net thing to search for Abernathy like Hale wanted, looked a lot like he was starting a death protocol that would spread from host to host like a plague.

That's why at the end of the episode he says he thinks he killed them all. The Mesh Network routine he used infected all the hosts and killed them.
 
TaleSpun

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SweetNicole said:
So, did anyone catch the fact that Bernard killed all of the hosts? When he was doing the mesh net thing to search for Abernathy like Hale wanted, looked a lot like he was starting a death protocol that would spread from host to host like a plague.

That's why at the end of the episode he says he thinks he killed them all. The Mesh Network routine he used infected all the hosts and killed them.
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Great catch.
 
Chiaroscuro

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ForgeForsaken said:
You'd think that, but what about his dream? At the end of the episode we get all the dead hosts in the sea in one place and earlier we had Dolores saying to the host she shot that not everyone can go to the promised land.
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I don't think all that you (Dolores) are envolving part of that conversation would make much sense if it took place after the revolt. No it was in the far past, with Arnold. After all, it was Arnold that planned to free the hosts and way he intend to do it was to kill himself (the part of him being left behind in the dream).

But yes, the dream is being recreated.
 
Einchy

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SweetNicole said:
So, did anyone catch the fact that Bernard killed all of the hosts? When he was doing the mesh net thing to search for Abernathy like Hale wanted, looked a lot like he was starting a death protocol that would spread from host to host like a plague.
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I'll have to check it in slowmo but it seemed like after he searched for Peter, he also checked up on himself and the computer was giving him readouts of how he was malfunctioning.
 
SweetNicole

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Einchy said:
I'll have to check it in slowmo but it seemed like after he searched for Peter, he also checked up on himself and the computer was giving him readouts of how he was malfunctioning.
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I'm not sure if it explicitly happened in that scene, but we're shown a way for hosts to communicate to each other without them knowing through the Mesh Network. We're then shown, by the end of the episode, all the hosts in one area and "dead." Logic says that the mesh network is what caused this. We know that Bernard knows/can use the Mesh Network and is currently in a location with access to it. Bernard->Mesh Network->Hosts "dead" all in one location.
 
Chuck Noblet

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Going by other comments that I've seen, maybe Bernard floods a large portion of the park killing the hosts to stop them from getting out of the park? Like at first he might try to reason with them and figure out a solution to hosts wanting to be free. But then Delores doubles down on wanting to get out of the park to kill all humans so Bernard panics and kills everyone.

He might have even tried to erase his own memory to save himself.
 
Chiaroscuro

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SweetNicole said:
So, did anyone catch the fact that Bernard killed all of the hosts? When he was doing the mesh net thing to search for Abernathy like Hale wanted, looked a lot like he was starting a death protocol that would spread from host to host like a plague.

That's why at the end of the episode he says he thinks he killed them all. The Mesh Network routine he used infected all the hosts and killed them.
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Hummm... that could be a way Bernard could kill a lot if hosts but at that scene the "death" protocol was really him dying/critical malfunction. He was damaged earlier in the revolt, losing by his ear the clear liquid that envolves the cyber brain every host has inside their skull. This liquid should be important be ause whar he did was to extract it from that dead host and insert it in himself. The whole tension of that scene is that he must hide his action to not reveal himself as a host.
 
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Chuck Noblet said:
Going by other comments that I've seen, maybe Bernard floods a large portion of the park killing the hosts to stop them from getting out of the park? Like at first he might try to reason with them and figure out a solution to hosts wanting to be free. But then Delores doubles down on wanting to get out of the park to kill all humans so Bernard panics and kills everyone.

He might have even tried to erase his own memory to save himself.
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This does make sense. This did mention an ocean that wasn't there before. Hmm...
 
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SweetNicole said:
I'm not sure if it explicitly happened in that scene, but we're shown a way for hosts to communicate to each other without them knowing through the Mesh Network. We're then shown, by the end of the episode, all the hosts in one area and "dead." Logic says that the mesh network is what caused this. We know that Bernard knows/can use the Mesh Network and is currently in a location with access to it. Bernard->Mesh Network->Hosts "dead" all in one location.
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Oh, gotcha.

I thought you were saying that he did that in that particular scene. Yeah, I guess that's a why he could've killed all of them later on.
 
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SweetNicole said:
So, did anyone catch the fact that Bernard killed all of the hosts? When he was doing the mesh net thing to search for Abernathy like Hale wanted, looked a lot like he was starting a death protocol that would spread from host to host like a plague.

That's why at the end of the episode he says he thinks he killed them all. The Mesh Network routine he used infected all the hosts and killed them.
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Initially thought he was just using it on himself but by the end it made more sense.

Looks like it's going to be another great season. Totally hooked after ep1.
 
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That wasn't Teddy. Too young to be him.

Also, I think the soldiers said at the beginning of the episode that its only been two weeks since the incident. So while they are doing the time jump, it wasn't a big one.
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daveo42 said:
Why the focus then? Also knowing how things end still fucks with the viewer, though I'm fine with this.
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pretty sure it was the stable boy that Bernard tried to save in the barn
 
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Chiaroscuro said:
Hummm... that could be a way Bernard could kill a lot if hosts but at that scene the "death" protocol was really him dying/critical malfunction. He was damaged earlier in the revolt, losing by his ear the clear liquid that envolves the cyber brain every host has inside their skull. This liquid should be important be ause whar he did was to extract it from that dead host and insert it in himself. The whole tension of that scene is that he must hide his action to not reveal himself as a host.
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I see now. The fluid was leaking out of him, so he used the dead guys fluids, to replace his own.
 
Einchy

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That can't be the stable boy since that kid got stabbed in the gut by a pitchfork.
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We would have to assume that he either survived that, and the scene makes it pretty clear that he's dead with the last shot, or that he was brought back to life. The former seems like pretty sloppy storytelling and the latter removes the one hook this season has: that death is final.
 
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