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Stantastic

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Oct 25, 2017
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well imma go sleep now and i sure aint gonna be up before the days end.

lets see ow this one turn out ay?
vote: turmoil7
 

Oliver James

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
7,997
VOTE: flatearthpandas

Dr. Monkey you're right about me not liking playing as scum, but I would be more likely to try and put up a veneer of towniness when I'm a baddie. You'll see when I flip.
 

Dr. Monkey

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Oct 25, 2017
15,029
Even Monkey waffles on whether I'm an easy lynch/bus or not :V
nah, it should be easy, but it never is - there's always someone more obvious to vote when you're scum, and scum doesn't want to bus you because you're useful. Why would they? So you linger. If you're town, great for us; if not, we are, as usual, probs boned.

(never forget the moment when I said to myself in HvV, "everyone else is giving away items; it's not like giving Sorian his item would be the worst thing ever" except it was literally the worst thing ever, almost-RIP-town)

not really

id was gonna put a vote on lp last night but im even hesitant to do that since like you guys have said im not even here
this is your sixth post, son; if you wanna be here, be here
 

Sorian

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
9,964
Actually, I quite want to know rac's alignment now.

I was already thinking that L_P was a bit different. I could see the link.

VOTE: rac
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Dr. Monkey you're right about me not liking playing as scum, but I would be more likely to try and put up a veneer of towniness when I'm a baddie. You'll see when I flip.
So you not playing the game proves that you're town? Interesting strategy.

I might just get to bed soon. If I do, I'll probably wake up before day end. Vote stands where it is.

Votes on turmoil or me are kind of suspect, imo. Easy to moan about d1 and jump on people thinking of ideas, however stupid they are (though I stand by mine: this is the day scum knows the least about the setup and are most likely to mess up their claims). That said, I feel a bit torn. I like stan's play in general so far, but peacing out for the day with a lone vote on turmoil seems like such a waste.

Would like to see more from Brazil since he is the lone voice we can trust without reservation. And, tbh, some people would probably do well to trust him over their own opinion.

What else? The vote tool is dope.

Would lynch:
OJ
rac
LP
lux
comrade

Eh:
melon
sorian
stanley
turmoil

Nah:
brazil
monkey
gorlak
 

Sorian

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If I don't know something for certain, I'm gonna keep entertaining other possibilities, jfc

I point it out because you've been continuing a thread from our last game that I'm not an easy lynch and even gave me flak for saying there were easy votes on me at the start and then say I'm an easy bus in your read of me. I understand being unsure but that's a weird inconsistency.
 

Dr. Monkey

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Oct 25, 2017
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Nah, it's consistent. I'm saying you should be an easy bus but no one ever does because you're the scum king. Hell, I probably wouldn't bus you if we were scummates unless your death was an inevitability. Just like votes on you in general should be easy but you're very good at just looking so reasonable.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I'm home and it's time to lynch scum.

I'll catch up, but I saw fep's most recent post and he doubled down on his mass claim idea:
(though I stand by mine: this is the day scum knows the least about the setup and are most likely to mess up their claims)

Please walk me through how scum would mess up their claims, because I don't see it. The best you get is a group of PRs... maybe 2 and they contradict themselves? This way you get at worst 1:1 scum. Why would scum try this? The other scenario is a huge group of townies. That way the PRs MAYBE are more trustworthy, but the nk list is set for days to come - and you expose those PRs. It comes down to thinking you'd catch all of scum fast enough before the PRs are killed?
 

Dr. Monkey

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Gorlak, I see you chasing this thread but let me interrupt for a second and ask you how you feel about Sorian.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I'm home and it's time to lynch scum.

I'll catch up, but I saw fep's most recent post and he doubled down on his mass claim idea:


Please walk me through how scum would mess up their claims, because I don't see it. The best you get is a group of PRs... maybe 2 and they contradict themselves? This way you get at worst 1:1 scum. Why would scum try this? The other scenario is a huge group of townies. That way the PRs MAYBE are more trustworthy, but the nk list is set for days to come - and you expose those PRs. It comes down to thinking you'd catch all of scum fast enough before the PRs are killed?
"Doubling down" is a pretty fucking disingenuous way to put that. We have people already checked out for the day, it is literally impossible for it to happen. All I said is that I don't think it was that shit, although it was an idea based on my quick google reading of fucking up c9 setups and how the knowing or not knowing of SK can bork scum. Asking people to at least consider the systems we have in play or some strategy is not less scummy than openly bragging about doing jackshit but you do you.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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"...is not more scummy..."

Typing on PC was supposed mean less stupid typos, goddamn. Anyway, armed with newfound disappointment that Nier Automata is finally on sale but US PSN won't take my credit card, I am going to bed for real. See you guys in a few hours.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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You will have to explain how these thing are the same(you or stan, monki, sorian, Am I forgetting someone?, I am talking of following brazil and thinking that brazil is infallible being uncompatible ideas). brb burden of proof

Should I try to look scum?

You undeniable said Brazil chooses the lynch of the day 'till his death (#124) With that being said you implicitly rule out that you disagree with him and would oppose him because he's confirmed town.
In this post you throw away your own oppinion and put all the burden towards Brazil, which would be an easy way to dismiss vote patterns in the future.

The phrase "trying to look town" is definitely something that is written in scum chats and I can't remember having read this in a game before. I connect this sentence to a scum mindset, hence you seem suspicious using it.
 

Brazil

Actual Brazilian
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Would not lynch - it's a small list:
  • Stan - Stan's aggressive so far and I pretty firmly town-read aggro Stan
Isn't Stan literally always aggressive, though? This isn't the first game I've been in that someone's mentioned town-reading Stan very incisively on D1, and that confused me, because I don't see anything alignment-indicative in his posture.
 

Dr. Monkey

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Oct 25, 2017
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Isn't Stan literally always aggressive, though? This isn't the first game I've been in that someone's mentioned town-reading Stan very incisively on D1, and that confused me, because I don't see anything alignment-indicative in his posture.
Nope, he's not always aggressive.

That rac pile is sketch.
Please explain:
is two people a pile?
how it is sketch? what is sketch about it?
why the rac votes and no others?

You're supposed to be our trusted voice and you are largely absent; when you reappear, it's with a one-line drive-by. We need you, Brazil, not because you're infallible but because we can at least trust the source.

Let me start a conversation with you here: I put a vote on rac that was clearly a prod - see the text along with it. Sorian, who'd mentioned rac before, jumps on. Wants to know his alignment. Mentions a possible connection to LP but does not explain. I've learned to be very suspicious of Sorian supporting/agreeing with me; this bothers me. So if you find any part of this sketch, I'd like to hear what and why and how.
 

Dr. Monkey

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(note: had typed up what is the second half there before you responded re: stan, Brazil, so you can mitigate the "one-line drive-by" but man I still really would like to hear more from you here)
 

Sorian

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
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Nope, he's not always aggressive.


Please explain:
is two people a pile?
how it is sketch? what is sketch about it?
why the rac votes and no others?

You're supposed to be our trusted voice and you are largely absent; when you reappear, it's with a one-line drive-by. We need you, Brazil, not because you're infallible but because we can at least trust the source.

Let me start a conversation with you here: I put a vote on rac that was clearly a prod - see the text along with it. Sorian, who'd mentioned rac before, jumps on. Wants to know his alignment. Mentions a possible connection to LP but does not explain. I've learned to be very suspicious of Sorian supporting/agreeing with me; this bothers me. So if you find any part of this sketch, I'd like to hear what and why and how.

I'm sorry I didn't spell it out since it was one post up from the vote. He shades L_P without actually voting him. Seemed pretty clear cut to me.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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We'll have to agree to disagree. Trash conversation actively detracts from scum hunting, that's literally how I fool a lot of you most of the time.
Now it's even a townie move to shut down discussion, because as scum you'd do otherwise of course. I'll keep that in mind, yes, we disagree.

For Comrade, you can policy lynch him if you want but that's about the best you'll get. It doesn't matter if you want to give him a free pass or not. He's going to pop in, say some nonsensical stuff, throw out a non commital accusation, then disappear for a day. I haven't had to lynch him as scum yet but I assume it's like anyone else that doesn't give me much to read (Star, lp, Kyan, etc.), finding him out will be through connections, not as a first point of contact.
How do you want to lynch scum if it's LP + Comrade? Your suspect pool from the start of the game were 9 players?

At least I see your reasoning for rac in this post, meta. Probably better to read everything before talking about your rac or turmoil position.
 

turmoil7

Community Resettler - Shinra Employee
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Oct 25, 2017
4,186
eh lynching an inactive player is best for day one
but im right there again so, yeah

vote: Lone Prodigy
L_P has an underscore, will the vote tool handle it correctly if someone else votes for him? Fireblend

Maybe vote for him again with the '_' just in case
You undeniable said Brazil chooses the lynch of the day 'till his death (#124) With that being said you implicitly rule out that you disagree with him and would oppose him because he's confirmed town.
In this post you throw away your own oppinion and put all the burden towards Brazil, which would be an easy way to dismiss vote patterns in the future.

The phrase "trying to look town" is definitely something that is written in scum chats and I can't remember having read this in a game before. I connect this sentence to a scum mindset, hence you seem suspicious using it.

Guess we will have to agree to disagree

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I like OJ and Stan, they feel authentic
 
Oct 27, 2017
2,240
Lux went for that real easy bait.
Care to explain how you rate that rather than stating the obvious?
I'm gonna go ahead and
Vote: Oliver James
Lots of shitposts, maybe one legit so far. Tell me more.
Saw your explanation about throwing around theories, that's such a wobbly explanation, could come from whatever alignment, defensive? Asking for feedback or trying to steer the discussion. I've said more above.

Furthermore: that's all you get from Oliver to that point?
 

Brazil

Actual Brazilian
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Oct 24, 2017
18,548
São Paulo, Brazil
Please explain:
is two people a pile?
how it is sketch? what is sketch about it?
why the rac votes and no others?

You're supposed to be our trusted voice and you are largely absent; when you reappear, it's with a one-line drive-by. We need you, Brazil, not because you're infallible but because we can at least trust the source.

Let me start a conversation with you here: I put a vote on rac that was clearly a prod - see the text along with it. Sorian, who'd mentioned rac before, jumps on. Wants to know his alignment. Mentions a possible connection to LP but does not explain. I've learned to be very suspicious of Sorian supporting/agreeing with me; this bothers me. So if you find any part of this sketch, I'd like to hear what and why and how.
That was a joke :P

Sorian is well-aware of this uneasiness you feel around him, and I'm pretty sure he piles on that on purpose at least to some degree. But I've only played with Sorian as his teammate before, and so I think it's up to you to look into that and try to figure out if he's trying to pocket you once again.

(note: had typed up what is the second half there before you responded re: stan, Brazil, so you can mitigate the "one-line drive-by" but man I still really would like to hear more from you here)
Yeah, no, I agree with you there. I've had to work harder and longer than I had anticipated these last couple of days, so I apologize for that. I'll be active here until day end (and probably my own life's end), though.
 
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Fireblend

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Oct 25, 2017
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Costa Rica
L_P has an underscore, will the vote tool handle it correctly if someone else votes for him? Fireblend
No, the vote tool will count it separately from votes for LP with an underscore. Since intent takes precedence, for game purposes it will count as a vote, but since this presents legibility issues for those using the vote tool and vote counts going forward, do correct the vote to his proper spelling, rac

Thanks :)
 

Lone_Prodigy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,445
I'm all for waffling, especially when you're close to mylo. But D1 is such a random madhouse it's better to take a hard stance, even if it the wrong stance.

Or you could just pick the guy with the lest posts like rac.
 

LuxCommander

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
1,053
Los Angeles, CA
The tool does indeed register the space turmoil.

Interesting to see the voting patterns, though there's not even close to enough data to make an educated guess. Just seeing minor things that might be worth expounding upon later.
 

rac

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,161
No, the vote tool will count it separately from votes for LP with an underscore. Since intent takes precedence, for game purposes it will count as a vote, but since this presents legibility issues for those using the vote tool and vote counts going forward, do correct the vote to his proper spelling, rac

Thanks :)
sorry copied it from the first post

vote: Lone_Prodigy
 
Oct 27, 2017
2,240
Reading through the day something about @ComradeSparkster tickles me. He seems to have an eye for LuxCommander and Sorian. He attacks the former and drops the latter's name for the sake of it?

Comrade, how about your view on the players? Do you like/dislike some of the other players?
 

Sorian

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
9,964
Now it's even a townie move to shut down discussion, because as scum you'd do otherwise of course. I'll keep that in mind, yes, we disagree.


How do you want to lynch scum if it's LP + Comrade? Your suspect pool from the start of the game were 9 players?

At least I see your reasoning for rac in this post, meta. Probably better to read everything before talking about your rac or turmoil position.

I'll wait for the SK to kill one of them then since a two player scum team guarantees a SK. On a more serious note, it's a probability game. They might both be scum but I have strengths and weaknesses and I know what they are. That said, L_P isn't a good example anyway. I can read him, he just doesn't say a lot. I think him and rac are babying each other.

Care to explain how you rate that rather than stating the obvious?

Saw your explanation about throwing around theories, that's such a wobbly explanation, could come from whatever alignment, defensive? Asking for feedback or trying to steer the discussion. I've said more above.

Furthermore: that's all you get from Oliver to that point?

It's a weak play. I don't rate it anything yet because it's either dopey town or bad scum. If I had something to say, I'd say it.
 

rac

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,161
let me put it this way

an inactive player drops a vote on one of the town leaders on d1 which brings it to 3 votes

also im not even sure if turmoils vote is real atm
 
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