I felt this way about Uncharted 4 and Trails in the Sky, but for story instead of graphics. Neither have bad gameplay but it really isn't the main draw or even enough to sustain the experience if the other aspects weren't as good as they are.
Games where you forgive average gameplay because the visuals are so good?
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I guess the Uncharted games would be my best answer. Though I didn't just plat for the visuals as I enjoyed the character interactions and such. They were certainly a chore to play at times which is why I still haven't gotten around to 4. I do feel like at this point, I can just watch many of these cinematic games on youtube and get what I want out of them.
What other open world RPG have the same quality of Horizon's combat? The only one is Dragons Dogma but that is on a league of its own since it is an Itsuno game. Everything else in the industry pales when compared with a combat scenario between Aloy and a Thunderjaw/Stormbird/hell any machine in the game.
In regards to GOW, it has never played better. It has depth, variety, incredible animations and it is satisfying. It is up there with Bloodborne and Nioh. Yet it is its own thing, which is even better.
Edit: also in regards to Uncharted, I can definitely agree UC1-3 were decent at best combat wise. But 4 and TLL? What? They dont own nothing to any other TPS out there.
I'm sorry, I'm just not a fan of Sony's output. Nothing personal. Pretty games though
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I haven't played 4 just yet. Have the platinum for the first three games and I think they all have very enjoyable gamplay. Maybe you're right. I think it's gonna be hard for me to say that anything in that genre is better than Max Payne 3 for a long time.
Except I disagree. The one thing those games are good at is better encounter design, but apart from that, the actual movement/shooting mechanics are at best tolerable, and stealth/platforming is barely developed or fleshed out from beyond the basic conception stage. It says something when I view gameplay in Uncharted games as something I need to get past to get to the next cool setpiece or story moment, because the gameplay can be, at best, an inoffensive obstacle, and at worst, actively annoying.
I'm most certainly not "one of those people," no need to put words/opinions in my mouth.
It's not about understanding "different opinions." It's about calling out childish bias and meme culture, and this thread is off to an eye roll inducing start.
well, this thread isnt about bad gameplay, is about average, if it wasnt because of the setpieces, visuals and dialogues I wouldnt play Uncharted, since the gameplay is average (I dont think people think the climbing or the melee combat sections are extremely fun and while the shooting isnt bad, its not really why I play the game).
I just bought a PS4 and the last games I finished are Uncharted 2,3,4, shadow of the colossus, the last guardian, bloodborne and currently playing GoW.
Maybe there's a reason I was thinking about those two games...
I didn't say anything about Horizon's combat. Your post said it was the best open world with the best combat. "Best open world" is specifically the part I called out in my post.
As for God of War, yes, God of War plays better than it ever has, but as far as I am concerned, there is no universe in which it is the best combat system of all time, the camera alone ensures that.
I didn´t really like the shooting in the first 3 games. 4 and TLL are a huge step up from those though. And yeah Max Payne 3 would be in the race for best shooting mechanics ever.
It is the perfect example for this post though, interestingly enough.
It's not a 'bogus' claim; it's how it is for some people. Obviously your mileage will vary.
For what it's worth, I had fun with Uncharted 4, even if it didn't blow me away by any stretch of the imagination.
Well console exclusive games dont play on PC so it wouldn't make sense.
Ha, yes. The Witcher 3's combat is pretty bad, and the quest design has all the terrible excesses of modern AAA game design.
Now, if gameplay also considers the choice and consequence mechanic, then The Witcher 3 does something well on the interactivity front...
Far from forgive, but I did play through Tearaway solely for its visuals and music (and then swore off Sony platformers forever lol).
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I know many think the combat is pretty average. Those same people think Soulsborne games have great gameplay. I guess myself and those people we'll just have to disagree lol
That being said, there is also gameplay in the the choice vs consequence aspect and it doesn't get much better than Witcher 3. Obsidian games maybe...
Or maybe some people like/dislike different things, you know, occams razor and all that.
I specifically said the best combat in an open world game tho...
We are talking about gameplay after all.
Best open world is a different thing and I agree Horizon is surely not the one game to claim that crown (Red Dead Redemption and The Witcher 3 comes to mind in that sense).
Yeah, THE LAST OF US combat is so shit that even the MP are active to this day.
Ratchet & Clank combat is so shit I still replay the game when I have the chance.
Uncharted 4 or Lost Legacy? Oh another game with a surprisingly active MP with shitty gameplay?
I think it's the manner in which it's done. It's fine to not like something, but the drive-by posts that say a game is trash without even one bit of explanation understandably gets increasingly annoying after seeing it for the umpteenth time. :) Nothing's gonna stop that kind of behavior, and the door swings both ways, but I do wish folks put a little more time/thought into their responses before hitting that post button.
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But you only feel that way because you don't like what they're saying/the difference of opinions. I know I don't walk through life and think any time that disagrees with my opinion is childish or a contrarian.
Exactly.
It's not secret that ResetEra is starting to devolve with rampart thread creation. After so many years of this stuff you really just want to be part of a community where the conversation evolves beyond the same, tired, fanboyish posting.
If you think that's what I'm doing you're sadly mistaken and over generalizing.
Ideally everybody should be free to determine for themselves what they value in any given experience instead of having some dogmatic fucking bullshit shoved down their throats.
...Right?
I was going to play cuphead when it was announced because of the visuals, then the game was indeed amazing, but a lot of people were going to buy that game on visuals (and music) alone.
This is a good reply, these games were mediocre af (except maybe DKC2, which was okay), and they got by because they looked pretty.
Walking simulators are essentially this thread by design.
I can think of a lot of games I'd have probably quit if they didn't look so good, or at least good enough. As kids, we used to call those "Rental-only games."
Inner Chains is the primary example of visuals > gameplay.
I expect Agony and Scorn to offer similar results.
I can think of a lot of games I'd have probably quit if they didn't look so good, or at least good enough. As kids, we used to call those "Rental-only games."
Inner Chains is the primary example of visuals > gameplay.
I expect Agony and Scorn to offer similar results.
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I don't disagree one bit. To be fair, though, even if they give reasons they're going to be ripped to pieces by those thinking their opinions are correct. Some may feel it's best to say something simple and not deal with the dogpile
There's a kind of unwritten rule here, about some companies that must be bashed and some must be praised. Some bad behavious are installed since we moved here and a loto of Faqians become active users.
I thought Crysis 2 was a solid experience. Areas weren't always the same size as Crysis 1 but the tools at your disposal were fun to use, the shooting was good, and there were lots of wide areas that allowed you to pick your path through. Then there was the multiplayer which was my jam for quite a while. If that's not the experience you had with the game then feel free to disagree but I always got the sense with Crysis games that there were people who were just looking for reasons to shit all over the games.
Maybe that's not the best attitude to have given the message board format, especially for an OP. Aren't there anti-list thread rules on Era, for example?
Extemporaneous musings that will easily lead into fanboy drive-bys aren't indicative of reading the room or appreciating the context of a forum, in my opinion.
- Heavy Rain (PS3) - Beautiful game for it's time. Friends loved it, my wife loved it. It didn't grab me at all, but the visuals made me stick with it.
- Rise of the Tomb Raider (PC) - I was lured in by the amazing visuals on PC (at the time of release, it was one of the best looking games I had ever played - easily), but grew a bit bored by the gameplay. It wasn't terrible by any means at all - but had it not been for the amazing graphics - it would have been much more of a chore to get through.
- Uncharted series (PS3-PS4) - Fun set pieces and really impressive graphics made these worth playing, but I don't feel I need to play another one for a very, very long time.
Newer games I'm wary of playing for fear of the same based on feedback from friends & gameplay videos (would love it if somebody can sway me one way or another)
- Quantum Break (stunning graphics - but gameplay looks a little rough)
- Hellbade (this legit looks like a PS4 exclusive with killer visuals - does the gameplay hold up for somebody not big into cinematic / cutscene driven games?)
I rather play games that specialize in story though. Something like telltale or life is strange.
Not playing no half baked action movie.
Except Tomb Raider
I couldn't stand the repetitive environments, also the game was pretty hard and there's nothing worse than replaying linear sequences in a SP shooter.
