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Resident Evil Community |OT| Got some rare things on sale, stranger!
- Thread starter Jawmuncher
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Right so I just finished RE: Rev 1 and I'd give it a 6/10. My biggest complaints being the bland as hell enemy design, with their stiff animations, the comically bad script, the serviceable at best voice work and the clunky controls. The shooty shooty bang bang (Thanks Jim) was fun and kept me playing until the end. I feel there were a couple of enjoyable sections but most of it just felt so generic and phoned in. Also, I really hate how cut up it was, some sections were literally 2 - 3 minutes long, plus can my partner stop shutting the damn door in my face lol. I guess I'll still buy Rev 2, it seems people can't agree on if its better or worse, hopefully I fall in the better camp, if it can rise to 7/10 I'll be happy as that's a good score on my scale.
I've been looking into RE Revelations for Switch and was surprised to learn that only Revelations 1 is included on the cartridge, and that Revelations 2 would be a digital download. Does that mean that if I were to sell the cartridge, the buyer would only be able to play Revelations 1? Or is it a situation where whoever possesses the cartridge can download Revelations 2 and play it? I tend to sell my physical copies once I'm done with them so this is actually an important consideration for me.
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Rev 2 is a code for Eshop.
So yeah if you sell Rev 1 that's all you're selling.
For what it's worth, I think Rev2 has better characters and a better script. Rev1 is kind of a dud.
Locations were pretty good in my opinion. The ship was fantastic.
I never finished Rev 1, just hated all the character designs and also the plot was too stupid even by RE standards.
Rev 2 by contrast was fun as hell and probably my favourite since 4 came out. Also Raid mode was a perfect podcast game for months - though the 9 storage DLC's were one of the most naked cash grabs I've ever seen as I hope that idea never comes back.
a completely identical duplicate ship? and what the hell was with that one legged diving suit?
Rev 2 by contrast was fun as hell and probably my favourite since 4 came out. Also Raid mode was a perfect podcast game for months - though the 9 storage DLC's were one of the most naked cash grabs I've ever seen as I hope that idea never comes back.
After just finishing episode 1 I completely agree. Playing them back to back really illuminates how much better Rev 2 is in every way possible. The visuals are massively improved, the voice work is really solid instead of abyssal to serviceable at best, there's actually some tension, atmosphere and horror as well which is always appreciated in a Resident Evil game, Rev 1 felt like some buddy cop comedy in comparison. And I'm already feeling some attachment to the characters, whereas I never did in the first game. Plus the gameplay is better, the controls are improved and less clunky, plus the mob design is greatly improved, they actually look unique and scary now instead of something you'd buy from the Unity asset store. Overall I'm really glad I took the plunge after the disappointing Rev 1, Rev 2 is really good thus far.
Rev1 took from the same leaflet as RE6 on how to drag things for very long without anything meaningful happening. Rev1 was outstanding when it was on 3DS, but I feel this game just doesn't translate well outside of the novelty of its support. Rev2 is more focused and with a better premise overall. I'd say 2 was the good kind of kitsch, very fun game.
I'm in the crowd that much preferred Revelations 2 to 1 (except in Raid Mode, where Rev1 beats Rev2 for me), but I wouldn't shame anyone who likes Revelations 1 better.
I can see why some people would dislike Rev2, and see why other people would like Rev1 than I did. Revelations 1 has some high moments for me, and I love the main setting, but it is just most of the time average to me, with a few high points, a few low points, and a pretty good unlockable mode.
I can see why some people would dislike Rev2, and see why other people would like Rev1 than I did. Revelations 1 has some high moments for me, and I love the main setting, but it is just most of the time average to me, with a few high points, a few low points, and a pretty good unlockable mode.
I think what draws me to Rev1 is the setting, characters (some look ridiculous, yes) and art direction. Although it really feels like a handheld title It was a milestone having Chris an Jill together again since RE1.
Rev2 is alright, but secondary characters weren't that interesting to me, and the fact most of the game is set in forests, rocks and rusted metal felt more like silent hill at times.
Rev2 is alright, but secondary characters weren't that interesting to me, and the fact most of the game is set in forests, rocks and rusted metal felt more like silent hill at times.
One thing I think made me not appreciate Revelations 1 as much honestly is I had played Cold Fear a bit before I played Revelations 1. Cold Fear is a Resident Evil rip-off game that combined fixed camera angles with the RE4 behind-the-shoulder camera which takes place on a boat (and then on an oceanic oil rig). I think it has higher highs and lower lows than Revelations 1, but one thing it does exceedingly better than Revelations 1 is realizing its ship/oceanic setting and making a much better atmosphere, plus the monsters are more varied (even if a couple of them can be a bit annoying).
Revelations 1 has its unique appeals I like, but I feel weird I think I overall ended up liking Cold Fear more than it.
I adored the game on 3DS. I remember staying up every night after college playing it with the 3D up and headphones in. I genuinely thought it was creepy in a lot of areas.
I replayed it a couple years ago on the PS3 and wasn't as impressed. They really messed with Raid Mode too, I didn't like the introduction of forced grinding.
I prefer Revs 2. It was tremendously fun, I liked the story and the villain (but the side characters were disappointing and not as good as Rev 1. Apart from Moira.)
small edit: Cold Fear was a fantastic RE clone, probably my favourite of them.
I replayed it a couple years ago on the PS3 and wasn't as impressed. They really messed with Raid Mode too, I didn't like the introduction of forced grinding.
I prefer Revs 2. It was tremendously fun, I liked the story and the villain (but the side characters were disappointing and not as good as Rev 1. Apart from Moira.)
small edit: Cold Fear was a fantastic RE clone, probably my favourite of them.
Interesting you mentioned Cold fear, I will go further back in time and present you:
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I had this one back then, and it's funny in the sense that it's basically what you described Cold Fear to be, but this time it uses the classic RE1 formula only
I wonder if these games are related in some way, even the title is similar
Interesting you mentioned Cold fear, I will go further back in time and present you:
I had this one back then, and it's funny in the sense that it's basically what you described Cold Fear to be, but this time it uses the classic RE1 formula only
I wonder if these games are related in some way, even the title is similar
I'm happy you mentioned Deep Fear, Cold Fear was made by a number of the same people who made Deep Fear but years later, it's in some ways a spiritual successor to it/remake of it (like the main characters literally look exactly the same and a few of the gameplay moments in Deep Fear happen in Cold Fear).
There's a weird history here, basically there was a team of a few people who worked on four horror games, Deep Fear > Carrier > Extermination > Cold Fear. These four games are all technically unrelated but they all have stuff in common that carry between them and have some of the same people that worked on all four of them. I need to refresh myself on all the similarities, but I recall there's a moment in Deep Fear towards the end of the game where you plant explosives around and then run as the place floods, which occurs again in Carrier, which then occurs again in Cold Fear. That same mine planting, running from a flooding place scene is in the climax of all three of these games for example.
Extermination's kind of the oddball one as it's not set in an oceanic setting like the other three but rather in an antarctic facility, but it has a few similarities with Carrier especially.
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I'm happy other RE fans liked Cold Fear, it had some definite flaws and annoyances but I was surprised how much I actually liked it when I played it, it's definitely up there as one of the better Resident Evil clones I've played.
It'd be neat, and as a PS2 launch title it has some history, but at this point I doubt it.
Before Revelations 1 came out I marathoned oceanic horror games, and that's when I played Deep Fear, Carrier, and Cold Fear, I almost played them back to back and I was noticing a number of similarities between the three of these so I looked it up only to find that a number of the same people worked on them, so I kind of consider them an unofficially trilogy. It's like three attempts with some drastic differences at the same thing, which I find amusing but all three do have differences and are worth playing. I think Cold Fear ended up being the best one though.
If you liked Extermination while it's not quite the same (Extermination is kind of like Resident Evil meets Metal Gear, which I can definitely see why that'd appeal to you) I'd recommend Carrier for the Dreamcast if you haven't played it. It's more Resident Evil than Metal Gear, but has some fun diversity in line with what Extermination has in parts. It's been a while since I played it now, but I recall it having some similarities to Extermination specifically in some of the stuff they both do. Though Carrier I also recall being a game of high points and low points, the five things I remember the most about Carrier is:
01.) There's survivors you can save or not in the game, especially the first half.
02.) Though it's an oceanic horror game, the ship's being overrun with plant life and some living water thing which also was in Extermination.
03.) The game tries really hard to be Resident Evil, with characters that parrot some Resident Evil characters (I remember there's a Wesker rip-off for example).
04.) The game has a pretty forced environmental message in its main ending after you fight some Tyrant rip-off who's a mutated character you know like recent RE's.
05.) Once you beat the main game you get a B scenario with a female character that has some drastic differences.
Overall I find all four pretty fascinating RE clones, both in how all four are similar but also different, but also they're all at least decent with some charm (Deep Fear I feel is the roughest of them, but has some fun B-charm to it and a pretty great soundtrack).
I also think I may make a post after this one on one of the better Resident Evil clones I've played unrelated to these if we're on the subject.
It'd be neat, and as a PS2 launch title it has some history, but at this point I doubt it.
Before Revelations 1 came out I marathoned oceanic horror games, and that's when I played Deep Fear, Carrier, and Cold Fear, I almost played them back to back and I was noticing a number of similarities between the three of these so I looked it up only to find that a number of the same people worked on them, so I kind of consider them an unofficially trilogy. It's like three attempts with some drastic differences at the same thing, which I find amusing but all three do have differences and are worth playing. I think Cold Fear ended up being the best one though.
If you liked Extermination while it's not quite the same (Extermination is kind of like Resident Evil meets Metal Gear, which I can definitely see why that'd appeal to you) I'd recommend Carrier for the Dreamcast if you haven't played it. It's more Resident Evil than Metal Gear, but has some fun diversity in line with what Extermination has in parts. It's been a while since I played it now, but I recall it having some similarities to Extermination specifically in some of the stuff they both do. Though Carrier I also recall being a game of high points and low points, the five things I remember the most about Carrier is:
01.) There's survivors you can save or not in the game, especially the first half.
02.) Though it's an oceanic horror game, the ship's being overrun with plant life and some living water thing which also was in Extermination.
03.) The game tries really hard to be Resident Evil, with characters that parrot some Resident Evil characters (I remember there's a Wesker rip-off for example).
04.) The game has a pretty forced environmental message in its main ending after you fight some Tyrant rip-off who's a mutated character you know like recent RE's.
05.) Once you beat the main game you get a B scenario with a female character that has some drastic differences.
Overall I find all four pretty fascinating RE clones, both in how all four are similar but also different, but also they're all at least decent with some charm (Deep Fear I feel is the roughest of them, but has some fun B-charm to it and a pretty great soundtrack).
I also think I may make a post after this one on one of the better Resident Evil clones I've played unrelated to these if we're on the subject.
I'm actually jumping into Cold Fear this month and damned if now I'm interested in Deep Fear! You all are great.
that looks good. lemme grab this title for JYP Saturn since i just got a system. thanks for posting this =)Interesting you mentioned Cold fear, I will go further back in time and present you:
I had this one back then, and it's funny in the sense that it's basically what you described Cold Fear to be, but this time it uses the classic RE1 formula only
I wonder if these games are related in some way, even the title is similar
So one of the better Resident Evil clones I've played while we're on that subject:
Kabus 22 is up there on my 'Resident Evil clones' chart.
It was a Turkish PC Resident Evil clone from 2006/2007 that was apparently made by a 5-people team over the course of three years, and though Resident Evil is the main thing it riffs off of it's not the only source (there's also some stronger Silent Hill and Devil May Cry influence, I'll explain in one bit). In the game you switch between playing three characters, one is a woman who is more puzzle focused, one is the 'main character' who's a Chris Redfield knock-off and plays like a Resident Evil character, and the final is a guy who looks like Leon who plays a bit more like Dante and DMC than anything.
Now in fairness, the characters were originally bigger rip-offs than their final versions, here was the original art for them:
The final versions look like this:
The game has some laughably bad acting and writing, but it's with its charms. Do not play this game for its story, as it's kind of a clusterfuck and frankly the final boss is bad and the ending is literally like 15 seconds long (you can tell it was rushed at the very end), but despite this it's actually a pretty enjoyable Resident Evil clone.
I actually wouldn't recommend playing this game on Hard, I did it and I think it's a case of a game that suffers some frustration if you play on Hard and would recommend Normal, but I really enjoyed it still. A number of fun locations you explore, some unique enemies that are somewhere between Resident Evil and Silent Hill, some fun puzzles, decently well handled back-tracking element (the fun kind fortunately). The best summary I could give is this silly video I made after playing it for 5-6 hours. It doesn't include footage of the final location, which I ended up loving since it kind of is like a mixture of a Silent Hill-esque church and a Resident Evil mansion, but it's a decent demonstration of the game I feel even if a sillier video:
This game I hope comes to Steam eventually, it was Greenlit forever ago but nothing since then. It's up there on my Resident Evil clones list for some creative mix-ups, good locations/enemies, and with some fun pacing/puzzles.
Kabus 22 is up there on my 'Resident Evil clones' chart.
It was a Turkish PC Resident Evil clone from 2006/2007 that was apparently made by a 5-people team over the course of three years, and though Resident Evil is the main thing it riffs off of it's not the only source (there's also some stronger Silent Hill and Devil May Cry influence, I'll explain in one bit). In the game you switch between playing three characters, one is a woman who is more puzzle focused, one is the 'main character' who's a Chris Redfield knock-off and plays like a Resident Evil character, and the final is a guy who looks like Leon who plays a bit more like Dante and DMC than anything.
Now in fairness, the characters were originally bigger rip-offs than their final versions, here was the original art for them:
The final versions look like this:
The game has some laughably bad acting and writing, but it's with its charms. Do not play this game for its story, as it's kind of a clusterfuck and frankly the final boss is bad and the ending is literally like 15 seconds long (you can tell it was rushed at the very end), but despite this it's actually a pretty enjoyable Resident Evil clone.
I actually wouldn't recommend playing this game on Hard, I did it and I think it's a case of a game that suffers some frustration if you play on Hard and would recommend Normal, but I really enjoyed it still. A number of fun locations you explore, some unique enemies that are somewhere between Resident Evil and Silent Hill, some fun puzzles, decently well handled back-tracking element (the fun kind fortunately). The best summary I could give is this silly video I made after playing it for 5-6 hours. It doesn't include footage of the final location, which I ended up loving since it kind of is like a mixture of a Silent Hill-esque church and a Resident Evil mansion, but it's a decent demonstration of the game I feel even if a sillier video:
This game I hope comes to Steam eventually, it was Greenlit forever ago but nothing since then. It's up there on my Resident Evil clones list for some creative mix-ups, good locations/enemies, and with some fun pacing/puzzles.
oh no! thanks, can't get enough of these classic looking Re1 style games. i picked up Martian Gothic for ps1 a few months ago.
shoot! more? keep em coming! thanks!!!So one of the better Resident Evil clones I've played while we're on that subject:
Kabus 22 is up there on my 'Resident Evil clones' chart.
It was a Turkish PC Resident Evil clone from 2006/2007 that was apparently made by a 5-people team over the course of three years, and though Resident Evil is the main thing it riffs off of it's not the only source (there's also some stronger Silent Hill and Devil May Cry influence, I'll explain in one bit). In the game you switch between playing three characters, one is a woman who is more puzzle focused, one is the 'main character' who's a Chris Redfield knock-off and plays like a Resident Evil character, and the final is a guy who looks like Leon who plays a bit more like Dante and DMC than anything.
Now in fairness, the characters were originally bigger rip-offs than their final versions, here was the original art for them:
The final versions look like this:
The game has some laughably bad acting and writing, but it's with its charms. Do not play this game for its story, as it's kind of a clusterfuck and frankly the final boss is bad and the ending is literally like 15 seconds long (you can tell it was rushed at the very end), but despite this it's actually a pretty enjoyable Resident Evil clone.
I actually wouldn't recommend playing this game on Hard, I did it and I think it's a case of a game that suffers some frustration if you play on Hard and would recommend Normal, but I really enjoyed it still. A number of fun locations you explore, some unique enemies that are somewhere between Resident Evil and Silent Hill, some fun puzzles, decently well handled back-tracking element (the fun kind fortunately). The best summary I could give is this silly video I made after playing it for 5-6 hours. It doesn't include footage of the final location, which I ended up loving since it kind of is like a mixture of a Silent Hill-esque church and a Resident Evil mansion, but it's a decent demonstration of the game I feel even if a sillier video:
This game I hope comes to Steam eventually, it was Greenlit forever ago but nothing since then. It's up there on my Resident Evil clones list for some creative mix-ups, good locations/enemies, and with some fun pacing/puzzles.
Interesting you mentioned Cold fear, I will go further back in time and present you:
I had this one back then, and it's funny in the sense that it's basically what you described Cold Fear to be, but this time it uses the classic RE1 formula only
I wonder if these games are related in some way, even the title is similar
The soundtrack by Ghost in the Shell composer Kenji Kawai still remains one of the top soundtracks of gaming. Never seen a game that doesn't deserve such a good soundtrack more.
I hope you enjoy it, I don't want to get your expectations TOO high since the game has some definite annoyances and a few parts I wasn't fond of (at least on Hard difficulty). Three things I remember about the game that frustrated me was the game saves using checkpoints, but the checkpointing is wildly inconsistent where sometimes you'll get like two saves in a 5 minute span and another you won't get a checkpoint for like almost an hours worth of gameplay and I don't think you can manually save was one of the big ones. And I love some of the enemy variety in the game, but there's two I remember gave me a really hard time on Hard difficulty (I play most games on Hard my first blind run through), I kind of don't want to spoil them as they're kind of cool outside of both having one (different) annoying thing, but the one that especially pissed me off was this one enemy that has this one-hit kill attack that appears later in the game and it can trigger you into an unavoidable animation for the kill attack at like, 2-3 meters away (you get a QTE to avoid it, but it's fast and if you fail it you're dead).
These annoyances aside though, there was actually a lot I liked about the game, and I think many fans delving into the Resident Evil clones and B-Tier horror games are not expecting flawless games but maybe some rough gems among the batch. I would definitely classify Cold Fear as one of those rough gems, there's a lot to like in it as well, and it's a surprisingly varied experience, with the three elements I recall liking the most being it uses its oceanic setting better than I've seen any other oceanic horror game do (it has a lot of touches that add up to really give a stronger 'ocean horror' vibe than any other ocean horror game I've played about), the atmosphere is surprisingly good in bits and there's a few tense scenes, and the setting has some interesting varied areas with nice touches and unique rooms, so there's not too many areas that look the same or anything.
Resident Evil clones are fun though.
Deep Fear has a stupidly good soundtrack, shame he didn't do much in games after that. Funnily enough his most recent work was the soundtrack on Resident Evil Vendetta, however.
Deep Fear has two many great songs, but here's two I'm going to link:
Self-Destruct Theme:
'Invasion', I don't remember when this plays honestly (it's been a while) but I like it:
Here's four others I won't directly link to:
Main Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giUR5A-jKhg
Emotional Moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DtlMhG-toU
Regular Boss Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PApmd1wx84Y
Final Boss Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MiR9NrqNVg
Unfortunately Deep Fear is never quite as good as its soundtrack, but it does have some enjoyable elements. I think its story has some fun B-charm going for it and though the gameplay can be a bit tedious at times it's god a few charms in it here and there.
So one of the better Resident Evil clones I've played while we're on that subject:
Kabus 22 is up there on my 'Resident Evil clones' chart.
It was a Turkish PC Resident Evil clone from 2006/2007 that was apparently made by a 5-people team over the course of three years, and though Resident Evil is the main thing it riffs off of it's not the only source (there's also some stronger Silent Hill and Devil May Cry influence, I'll explain in one bit). In the game you switch between playing three characters, one is a woman who is more puzzle focused, one is the 'main character' who's a Chris Redfield knock-off and plays like a Resident Evil character, and the final is a guy who looks like Leon who plays a bit more like Dante and DMC than anything.
Now in fairness, the characters were originally bigger rip-offs than their final versions, here was the original art for them:
The final versions look like this:
The game has some laughably bad acting and writing, but it's with its charms. Do not play this game for its story, as it's kind of a clusterfuck and frankly the final boss is bad and the ending is literally like 15 seconds long (you can tell it was rushed at the very end), but despite this it's actually a pretty enjoyable Resident Evil clone.
I actually wouldn't recommend playing this game on Hard, I did it and I think it's a case of a game that suffers some frustration if you play on Hard and would recommend Normal, but I really enjoyed it still. A number of fun locations you explore, some unique enemies that are somewhere between Resident Evil and Silent Hill, some fun puzzles, decently well handled back-tracking element (the fun kind fortunately). The best summary I could give is this silly video I made after playing it for 5-6 hours. It doesn't include footage of the final location, which I ended up loving since it kind of is like a mixture of a Silent Hill-esque church and a Resident Evil mansion, but it's a decent demonstration of the game I feel even if a sillier video:
This game I hope comes to Steam eventually, it was Greenlit forever ago but nothing since then. It's up there on my Resident Evil clones list for some creative mix-ups, good locations/enemies, and with some fun pacing/puzzles.
This is actually fascinating. It doesn't look bad either.
Resident Evil truly changed the world (and Alone in the Dark too)
Yes they are! Cold Fear has been on my Steam Wishlist for a while, maybe this will make me finally buy it. How do you feel about the fixed camera movement + over the shoulder shooting? The "hookman" RE4 prototype was like that and that's something I think they could try with REmake 2 as kind of a compromise between classic and new RE.
Hope you make that RE clones thread
The ship was great! It was nice to play in a confined space again.
I thought that was cancelled.
Ships are very often made in pairs, triplicates etc all identical.
I think the problem was that it was identical in all aspects, not only rooms and decorations, but also environmental damage, rubbish, monsters location etc. It was a really cheap plot twist. Successful, on first playthrough, but really cheap.
And about Cold Fear, I remember not liking the game. The setting was cool and how the ship was roaming on waves (which actually affected your aiming) was an interesting gameplay mechanics. I don't remember exactly why I didn't like the game, only that it was frustrating and the story had some major plot holes. Oh, and the Marlin Manson song used during credits was repeated like 2.5 (or even 3.5) times; it was playing on a loop and then, when the credits finished, it just suddenly ended.
But back then I was a huge RE fanboy so I also viewed this game as a RE rip-off, which probably affected my views.
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I finished episode 2 of Rev2 and wow, love it. I can't believe I nearly skipped it because of Rev1, I'm so glad I didn't. I just love everything about it so far. I can tell it's going to be very short though, even for me and my ideal length is 8-10 hours but I'm knocking out an episode per hour ATM. I'm wondering how the DLC is? I'm not interested in raid mode or any of that jazz, just more campaign or stories if possible.
I'll be picking up Revelation on the switch to play the Raid modes and get a little fix before gold edition comes out and go through all the game again.
The Bonus chapters are awful and a waste of time imo. I didn't enjoy them at all.
Breaking my damn heart there buddy, I was hoping to get another couple of hours out of the game with the DLC, speaking of DLC, the alternative costumes are hilarious, just so unfitting for a more "serious" RE title.
Breaking my damn heart there buddy, I was hoping to get another couple of hours out of the game with the DLC, speaking of DLC, the alternative costumes are hilarious, just so unfitting for a more "serious" RE title.
Moira's DLC episode is basically a horde mode with story cutscenes. If you like combat, it's good.
Now the second dlc is the most surreal thing I ever saw in RE. Not going to say what is it about, cuz that would be spoiler. But it's definitely not for everyone. I enjoyed it for what it is.
You might enjoy The Struggle, but Little Miss sucks.Breaking my damn heart there buddy, I was hoping to get another couple of hours out of the game with the DLC, speaking of DLC, the alternative costumes are hilarious, just so unfitting for a more "serious" RE title.
