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Nintendo Switch Online: New Info (Cloud Saves, 20 NES games, Family Plan)
- Thread starter Atheerios
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Pretty sure Games with Gold does that for Xbox One games as well. I'll be pleasantly surprised if Nintendo doesn't backpeddle on the "keep them forever" thing they said before.
Honest question for anyone here.
Nintendo originally announced this service early on. If I remember correctly they said
-will launch in summer 2017
- no price announced
- NES games for free for only THAT month then you could buy them.
- eshop deals
Then
It got pushed back and they clarified the price (20/yr) and they announced 3 NES games and mentioned they'd have online features and you could keep the games when subscribed. They also said SNES games would come.
So now nintendo announces exactly what's stated above, with 20NES games and cloud saves and the consensus is to complain. Did you expect something radically different? Nintendo literally told you why was coming beforehand.
Nintendo originally announced this service early on. If I remember correctly they said
-will launch in summer 2017
- no price announced
- NES games for free for only THAT month then you could buy them.
- eshop deals
Then
It got pushed back and they clarified the price (20/yr) and they announced 3 NES games and mentioned they'd have online features and you could keep the games when subscribed. They also said SNES games would come.
So now nintendo announces exactly what's stated above, with 20NES games and cloud saves and the consensus is to complain. Did you expect something radically different? Nintendo literally told you why was coming beforehand.
Because it's just NES games. Most NES games don't hold up all that well, and the few that do we've played a million times before on other platforms. Why should we be excited not only to pay for them again, but to pay a recurring subscription to play them again?
They delayed it a year. Some of us were hoping that was because Nintendo realised the offering they announced was shitty and they needed to come back with a lot more.
It's ridiculous to buy a service in the blind faith that maybe someday they'll do something good when they have no reputation for doing that good thing.
The announcement with the delay never once said anything different was coming. So it's basically a bunch of people inferred information based on nothing.
A delay like this can happen for a number of reasons. If something isn't ready, it's not ready.
I expected that this year delay was to get their shit together and improve the shitty initial proposal.
And ppl complain because is as shitty as have been announced.
This is the problem right now, a hacked console can't be played online at the same time. We have no custom firmware at the moment. You're asking for a hacked console to be able to be played legitimately online. A home-brew voice chat app can only run on a hacked console. Fail0verflow is a hack for the Switch which bypasses the unit from running legitimate Nintendo firmware, but you need this Nintendo firmware to play a legitimate Switch game online.
Well I'm not impressed at all but it's what I expected from them. I'll have to pay because of the cloud saves but nothing else is interesting to me. No idea why they sorts hyped this up. Seems bare min possible feature set.
But again it's what I expected from them.
But again it's what I expected from them.
But what is that based on? You're getting exactly what was announced (plus 17 more NES games and cloud saves)
I'd suggest people stop filling in information arbitrarily and then complaining when their made up standards aren't met.
Was it announced though? Nope. Let's deal with the facts we have now rather than making hypothetical predictions about the future. The fact is that games other than Nes weren't announced and when asked about it Nintendo said nothing to announced on this topic.
I don't expect any different outcome for any significant Nintendo announcement. This is the same we've been through when the Switch was announced etc. It eventually moves on.
Currently on my console I pay for online, it covers everyone on that console on their accounts and my account where-ever I go.
With the Switch would I need to pay extra for the family plan for does it work the same way?
With the Switch would I need to pay extra for the family plan for does it work the same way?
They had VC where you could choose which games to buy - which is what I would personally like on Switch.
Well at least it is extremely cheap.
I really did expect a messaging and acceptable voice chat systems though and it's shame Nintendo didn't realize how much of a mockery their current voice chat solution is right now.
I really did expect a messaging and acceptable voice chat systems though and it's shame Nintendo didn't realize how much of a mockery their current voice chat solution is right now.
18 months for this weak ass attempt. Fuck me, I think my microwave manufacturer could manage a better online platform in the time.
I love my switch, but still no messages. Friend codes. No proper chat. Cloud saves locked behind a paywall. No proper VC which everybody wants.
Pathetic really.
I love my switch, but still no messages. Friend codes. No proper chat. Cloud saves locked behind a paywall. No proper VC which everybody wants.
Pathetic really.
Ok I know this was explained to death, but on PS4, XBO only one ps plus or gold account is needed for everyone to play online.
PS4, cloud saves is only for ps plus subscribers. XBO, gold isn't needed for cloud saves.
So cloud saves could be where Nintendo looks good because of the family plan.
PS4, cloud saves is only for ps plus subscribers. XBO, gold isn't needed for cloud saves.
So cloud saves could be where Nintendo looks good because of the family plan.
Seems like a pretty disappointing proposition considering the good stuff Nintendo have been doing recently. I was hoping for a big bang launch but this more of a wet fart. Paying for something that was free just for cloud saves and some NES games? No thanks.
At $20 a year they wont have a problem selling this sub. People who wont buy it wont be losing them any money anyway.
This is the big relaunch?
Weren't people expecting system level voice chat?
Achievements?
Reworking of the friends list?
Weren't people expecting system level voice chat?
Achievements?
Reworking of the friends list?
Infuriating really. Who would have known that Nintendo needed an extra year to add... cloud saves?
It's insane to me that they are charging money for cloud saves and still making me use an external chat app
Also the friends list is worthless and perhaps a bigger obstacle to online play than voice chat issues
Also the friends list is worthless and perhaps a bigger obstacle to online play than voice chat issues
Ok I know this was explained to death, but on PS4, XBO only one ps plus or gold account is needed for everyone to play online. Everyone on the consoles have access to the main account games.
PS4, cloud saves is only for ps plus subscribers. XBO, gold isn't needed for cloud saves.
So cloud saves could be where Nintendo looks good because of the family plan vs Sony. But, PS4, XBO allow local backups of saves. Not sure how it works on Switch but recent threads have me believe it doesn't.
Having just looked at a Kotaku Article I went to double check myself has anyone else mentioned this yet?
Seriously Nintendo why in gods name are you so incompetent with anything Internet related.
Not having a way to back up save files for free is for one unacceptable, not being able to back up all my game saves even when I am paying for it.... Well I have no words to describe how stupid that is.
Seriously Nintendo why in gods name are you so incompetent with anything Internet related.
Not having a way to back up save files for free is for one unacceptable, not being able to back up all my game saves even when I am paying for it.... Well I have no words to describe how stupid that is.
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Achievements is something that would get me excited again for the Switch, but I don't see it happening.
Nintendo is so behind when it comes to OS features that it's almost a joke at this point.
People were expecting lots based on nothing. This wasn't a "relaunch"
I think that'd be for games like Pokémon and Animal Crossing where the ability to backup and reload your saves would break your game. Pokémon and Animal Crossing already have similar restrictions on the 3DS (you can't load a backed up save that's older than your current one) and so forth, on Gamecube you couldn't move those saves to other memory cards etc.
Like, part of me is glad they waited so long, so I didn't have to pay. But honestly, I'm excited to play older games with online play.
Cloud saves should have been free, but I will pay the $20 a year for all the stuff that they are offering(mainly games).
If they were going to charge $50-$60, they could have fucked right off.
It is weird they needed all this time for that. Pretty lackluster and the voice chat app is still absolutely embarrassing.
Cloud saves should have been free, but I will pay the $20 a year for all the stuff that they are offering(mainly games).
If they were going to charge $50-$60, they could have fucked right off.
It is weird they needed all this time for that. Pretty lackluster and the voice chat app is still absolutely embarrassing.
For launch of a service I honestly think it's pretty good. The fee is significantly lower than competitors and they will keep adding more games and features on top.
PSN and Live took times to build up too. PS Plus free games were not there Day 1. So as cloud saves and other features. Even Virtual Console library took a while to grow.
PSN and Live took times to build up too. PS Plus free games were not there Day 1. So as cloud saves and other features. Even Virtual Console library took a while to grow.
Would the switch support that?
And how's that gonna work if you're playing docked?
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It'll need every version of Tetris ever released for every Nintendo console with added online play to be truly worth it.
Yah, not happening, and NES games in 2018 isn't that hot, but for that price it beats buying them again in another iteration of Virtual Console, which most people wouldn't do anyway because they've most likely bought them at least once since the days of the Wii's VC. And Nintendo already said they're not doing VC (not under that name, at least). Family account shared with enough people makes this a good enough deal.
Also, they have plenty of time to improve the service in the future. People's opinion would turn around so fast if Nintendo announced GC games on this service. But I have a hunch that when that happens, the price will get an increase.
Yah, not happening, and NES games in 2018 isn't that hot, but for that price it beats buying them again in another iteration of Virtual Console, which most people wouldn't do anyway because they've most likely bought them at least once since the days of the Wii's VC. And Nintendo already said they're not doing VC (not under that name, at least). Family account shared with enough people makes this a good enough deal.
Also, they have plenty of time to improve the service in the future. People's opinion would turn around so fast if Nintendo announced GC games on this service. But I have a hunch that when that happens, the price will get an increase.
/Shrug
All I kept hearing was "wait for the online reveal" regarding any switch shortcomings.
Hopefully they are leaving the more juicy details about a future OS update for E3, but I doubt that...
That would certainly be a optimistic reading of that statement. Even then I don't feel that's acceptable in this current age you NEED to be able to back up your save files, even if it would give you an exploitable advantage in a game.
I remember having voice chat in Socom on the PSP. Think that game released in 2006? Lol.
My problem is that they delayed it for a year and the offering is still too poor in my eyes
The thing that changed is how the NES games will be handled i guess ? But i'm NOT intrested in NES games ... Now if the offering was a mix-up of NES, SNES , N64 , GBA , they would have my attention .
Snes games will come ... ok WHEN ? after another delay ? Right now the offerings are too poor. And cloud saving , while neat is still a band-aid considering that we still have no way to keep our saves in a normal way.
Of course i'm complaining , to me the alternative is : " congratulations nintendo , it's the bare minimum " Should io be happy that i can keep the games while subscribed ? What a change , nintendo finally did something everyone else does. Should i send them a trophy for features their competitors have nailed years ago ?
No they first annonced a crappy service , then they annonced a barely servicable service . If they wanted me to subscribe , they should have presented me with a better service than average.