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nekomix

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I think this has the potential to be Federation Force-level of hype deflating... I didn't know what I was expecting but I keep my expectations in check .
 

IronicSonic

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If this is true, it's pretty crazy but I could totally see it working.

The only thing I would question is why Star Fox? Why not F-Zero Grand Prix?

Racing wouldn't be my most wanted genre out of Retro, but if that's what they're doing I trust them to do something special with it.

Flying segments.

And in all seriousness, F-Zero characters have the appeal of a potato
 

WrenchNinja

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And I'm not talking about the people who are disappointed that this is a racing game because they don't like racing games, the examples I used in my post made that more than abundantly clear. I'm talking about the people who are criticizing the very existence of this game, because it's "not what Retro should do".
I think it isn't what Retro should do. I think they should do a third DKC game. It doesn't really matter if this game turns out well or not, people should be allowed to be disappointed and not have to be mocked for it.
 

OnanieBomb

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Oct 25, 2017
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Anyone writing this off as "not ambitious" is basically saying the same thing as "lazy devs" and should be considered lazy shit posting.
 

Dr. Dre's Dr.

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This sounds great. Finally something new and having them copy the DKR template is a good idea. Maybe something can finally beat Sonic RT.
 

Dark Cloud

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This thread is basically:

- Make it F-Zero
- Federation Force situation
- We didn't ask for this
- This is not what I want from Star Fox

Based on absolutely 0 information, 0 images, 0 footage, 100% rumor. Era, please.
It's a racing game. That's more than enough to know when you know the genre. You're constricted with racing. And it's a spinoff title to a damn franchise that doesn't have any idea what it wants to be.
 

OryoN

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For me, the only thing that makes this likely is the fact that Nintendo(Miyamoto iirc) stated something to the effects of: 'A new F-zero would require all-new ideas in order to compel them to pursue it.' A StarFox racer would have been born out of that process.

I prefer something totally new from Retro Studios, but if anyone could make a spinoff like that work, it's Retro!
 

MONSTER

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What good is the pedigree of the studio if the game they're making is one most people couldn't give two asses about.

If the leak was that Retro were making a new DKR, Era would be losing their minds, but it's not DKR, it's Starfox, a franchise that people have never screamed out to have a racing game. Ever.

People never screamed for a first person shooting Metroid now look at critically acclaimed the prime series is
 

ThisIsMyDogKyle

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Also Tom Philips doesn't exactly have the best track record for Nintendo related leaks (Pokemon Stars, Mother 3 in 2016)
 
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Wasn't there a rumor just last week that retro's game was a familiar Nintendo IP but in a new genre? So this fits...

As someone that doesn't really like racing games, im dissapointed. I mean im sure it'll be good cause Retro has a good track record. But still, i am not interested in the slightest
 

Buggy Loop

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I cannot believe people are reacting so violently against this idea. Remember Mario+Rabbids? Remember Tropical Freeze? Remember Metroid Prime?

Mario+Rabbids litterally came out of nowhere. Nobody was speculating on what that studio was doing nor even a collab. There's no 4 years build up of anticipation. I mean, it's not hard to understand, this argument is not even comparable.

I don't remember Tropical Freeze, at least not when it first released on wii U, wanna know why? That platform was loaded to the brink with platformers by the time DK:TP was out, no matter how good the game was, there's a reason it flopped.

The only one i'll give you is Metroid prime, but i was not one of those down on the game back then. But i could understand that a studio with 0 experience to handle MP was giving doubts, don't act like your optimism would be bullet proof against at least thinking how it'll go down.
 

Clix

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I think Smash has changed the landscape a bit for F-Zero and a new installment in HD could really sell on Switch hardware.

Yes, F-Zero GX flopped, but it was also poorly advertised and on a system with a less enthusiastic install base. Modern Nintendo could easily sell the crap out of an F-Zero game.

Not just GX. X, which I love, sold less than 400k in the US and less than 100k in Japan. The OG F-Zero did decently but I feel that helped by being a launch title.
 

Beje

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Oct 27, 2017
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Pretty much lol.

Let's at least wait for the reveal before playing the blame game I mean come on. Disappointment is one thing and fine but Miyamoto could've had absolutely nothing to do with this.

Well, even if he's a genius he should already stop putting his grubby hands on everything and forcing his favourite IPs on other teams' stuff, even if it's just to let the younger talent inside the company to shine and make mistakes of their own.
 

Dark Cloud

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The same people who want to say "oh it's DK all over again" no it's not. Don't tell me that.

DKC is atleast a MAIN title to the series. This is a spinoff to a almost dead series and it's racing. A genre that's very limited.
 

Noppie

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's a racing game. That's more than enough to know when you know the genre. You're constricted with racing. And it's a spinoff title to a damn franchise that doesn't have any idea what it wants to be.
And this, ASSUMING IT'S TRUE, would make it a bad game, how? You don't see any hyperbole or overreaction in any of those statements? Come on.
 

PMS341

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I have a deep love for Star Fox, despite the direction the series went in. I enjoyed Adventures for what it was. I gave Zero a chance.

But god damn, if we don't get an F-Zero but we get Star Fox Racing, that will feel a bit disheartening.

Unless...

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Niceguydan8

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Nov 1, 2017
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All for Retro trying this out but not sure tying your name to the mediocre at best franchise that is Star Fox is the way to go. Should have revived the F-Zero name instead even if it was a different thing

The Star Fox series probably has more appeal for the larger market than the F-Zero series at this point.
 

Sensei

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hot take but both Star Fox and F-Zero were never good and if this is true I'm glad Retro is doing something totally different with Star Fox. If F-Zero gets rebooted I hope it's more than just a racing game.
Saying F-Zero was never good is actually just the most incredible lie. F-Zero GX is one of the finest arcade racing games ever made.
 

Vito

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I will give this a chance but this is not what I wanted.

I want a traditional Star Fox with online.

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The ONLY way this would work is if this race had huge stakes and was non-traditional. Sort of like Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Steel Ball Run. Where it's a "race", but technically that's just a pretense for a large scale adventure
 

Duffking

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Oct 27, 2017
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This sounds like a good idea to me, tbh. Could be a lot of fun. Not about to jump on the now ever predictable ERA Overreact With Hate And Hyperbole Because It's Not The Literal Thing I Asked For Cry Despite Knowing Nothing Else About It Train.

Almost as embarrassing as the Cyberpunk thread where a bunch of people were pretending they were totally not interested in the game any more just because it might use a first person perspective and calling it an FPS in the hope they'd get some of those sweet, sweet inbox quotes.
 
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Baleoce

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Oct 27, 2017
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Uhhhh.......can they put some DKR characters in it? Not that I don't like Star Fox but.......

They kind of exist in the same universe anyway and Diddy's not even in MK8D. Do it Retro, cross over all the things!
Brining the apes to space would be pretty funny and I'd be all for it if it bolstered the playable character variety.
 

Plankton2

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What if all those rumors about Beyond Good and Evil switch, was actually confusing the Retro project with that.

Star Fox in some sort of mix of aerial racing, combat, movement, along with ground elements
 

RM8

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I honestly don't see the problem? It's a F-Zero spin-off, not the first one of its kind. Maybe you guys don't remember but DDR was awesome, so I'm really looking forward something similar.
 

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I wish we had more hype for the idea of a Nintendo racing game with story progression. Mario Kart 8 is one of my favorite racing games of all time, but it kills me that there's nothing to do besides random Grand Prix sets.
 

Kinsei

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LOL at some of you thinking this will be another Federation Force situation. We are talking about Retro Studios here. RETRO STUDIOS!
I don;t think people are talking quality wise but rather reception wise. I'm sure the game will be great, but if it's not what people want then the reception will probably get nasty from both Star Fox and F-Zero fans.
 

Xita

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Oct 27, 2017
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This thread is basically:

- Make it F-Zero
- Federation Force situation
- We didn't ask for this
- This is not what I want from Star Fox

Based on absolutely 0 information, 0 images, 0 footage, 100% rumor. Era, please.

We know what the IP is
We know what the genre is
We know what the concept is

That's more than enough info to get an initial judge on it. If people don't like the idea, they don't like the idea. And they shouldn't be made fun of for it.
 

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I think it isn't what Retro should do. I think they should do a third DKC game. It doesn't really matter if this game turns out well or not, people should be allowed to be disappointed and not have to be mocked for it.
Again, there is a difference between what you are saying (i.e. a situation I have never said I have any issue with) and people who are violently against the very idea of this game because it doesn't meet their notions of what Retro should do.

Mario+Rabbids litterally came out of nowhere. Nobody was speculating on what that studio was doing nor even a collab. There's no 4 years build up of anticipation. I mean, it's not hard to understand, this argument is not even comparable.

I don't remember Tropical Freeze, at least not when it first released on wii U, wanna know why? That platform was loaded to the brink with platformers by the time DK:TP was out, no matter how good the game was, there's a reason it flopped.

The only one i'll give you is Metroid prime, but i was not one of those down on the game back then. But i could understand that a studio with 0 experience to handle MP was giving doubts, don't act like your optimism would be bullet proof against at least thinking how it'll go down.
My friend, the point of those arguments is to demonstrate that jumping the gun on judging a game before we actually properly know what the game is is a terrible idea.
 
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