My Hero Academia|General OT|Carrying on a new Eri (Manga spoilers)

Jintor · May 15, 2018

I just reread the entire Yakuza arc last night instead of sleeping for which I am now paying dearly

It actually reads really well in one giant burst. The weakness of that arc, aside from the Girl's Side battle being mainly offscreen (and with any luck an s4 will rectify that), is just that all the villains:

Look really similar with the plague doctor masks
Are all dudes with no huge variety in appearance besides the occasional bruiser
Just really aren't that interesting

And that kind of goes for Overhaul himself as well, who is kinda just some fuckin' asshole dude and any attempts to tell backstory with them falls kinda flat. Like, the Villain Alliance in this arc is weird and quirky and interesting, but the Yakuza arc has a bunch of dudes with cool abilities but that mostly just kind of scan really similarly.

The hero's side turns out pretty good though. Getting into Kirishima's head is really fun cos even though he's a fairly simple hardheaded guy he's still compelling. I hope they move his flashback to before he pulls out his super move though because that will make more dramatic sense.

Suede · May 15, 2018

Dedication Through Light said:
BUt where would people post about previous seasons of the anime, and also where would they post in between seasons.

NSESN said:
It is ok by me

Trojita said:
You can just leave it alone if that's how people like it. I don't know if there is a best solution.

The anime can always be discussed in a manga thread since we'll always be ahead. The problem is that we do post spoilers without spoiler marks, which should stay, but you will have some people come in. The same thing happens with the Black Clover thread. If I was an anime watcher I wouldn't want to think that thread is a thread for the anime and then see major spoilers. I also would think us discussing recent developments in the manga would cause people to steer clear of this thread in between seasons.

asagami_ said:
I would like put "General OT" and add at the end "Manga spoilers". I think it could cover the problem very well.

Silfer said:
I think adding Manga or General to the OT would be nice. MHA seems exceptional in this regard because other series I follow only have one thread here as far as I know so if there is confusion here, might as well do something to help.

I'm going to go with Asagami's idea. Thanks, guys.

NSESN · May 15, 2018

Jintor said:
And that kind of goes for Overhaul himself as well, who is kinda just some fuckin' asshole dude and any attempts to tell backstory with them falls kinda flat. Like, the Villain Alliance in this arc is weird and quirky and interesting, but the Yakuza arc has a bunch of dudes with cool abilities but that mostly just kind of scan really similarly.
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I really disagree with that, how is Overhaul just an asshole dude? He is a terrible human being but everything he does makes much more sense than anything other villains did so far, with a clear plan and taking a lot of steps to guarantee its success contrary to Shigaraki that always acted cocky and wasted resources and underlings.
Also his backstory is one of my favourite villain backstories, instead of focusing on his sad past it instead focus on why his mind is so warped, it also is very straightforward, it doesn't waste chapters to tell something that was easily told in some panels.

ShadowSwordmaster · May 15, 2018

Jintor said:
I just reread the entire Yakuza arc last night instead of sleeping for which I am now paying dearly

It actually reads really well in one giant burst. The weakness of that arc, aside from the Girl's Side battle being mainly offscreen (and with any luck an s4 will rectify that), is just that all the villains:

Look really similar with the plague doctor masks

Are all dudes with no huge variety in appearance besides the occasional bruiser

Just really aren't that interesting

And that kind of goes for Overhaul himself as well, who is kinda just some fuckin' asshole dude and any attempts to tell backstory with them falls kinda flat. Like, the Villain Alliance in this arc is weird and quirky and interesting, but the Yakuza arc has a bunch of dudes with cool abilities but that mostly just kind of scan really similarly.

The hero's side turns out pretty good though. Getting into Kirishima's head is really fun cos even though he's a fairly simple hardheaded guy he's still compelling. I hope they move his flashback to before he pulls out his super move though because that will make more dramatic sense.

Agreed. The villains of that arc were disappointing when you look at what villains were already introduced.

Stowaway Silfer · May 15, 2018

Nice title change. Though now it makes me realize how long our OT title is lol.

Jintor · May 15, 2018

NSESN said:
I really disagree with that, how is Overhaul just an asshole dude? He is a terrible human being but everything he does makes much more sense than anything other villains did so far, with a clear plan and taking a lot of steps to guarantee its success contrary to Shigaraki that always acted cocky and wasted resources and underlings.
Also his backstory is one of my favourite villain backstories, instead of focusing on his sad past it instead focus on why his mind is so warped, it also is very straightforward, it doesn't waste chapters to tell something that was easily told in some panels.

I think the main thing is - none of it was effective at making me care about him. He has, like, a bunch of backstory about honour or reviving the Yakuza or loyalty to his oyabun or whatever but, like, none of it hit for me. It's all just... noise. He was in a situation and he made the evil decision because he is teh evils.

There's no denying he's competent and he's got a plan and he's following it through but, like, he doesn't really plug as effectively into the themes of ostrasization and misfitness that the villains do so he's also kind of uninteresting in a larger thematic context.

Honestly I feel like this a situation also where his visual design is kind of a hinderence. My mental image of him the entire arc is pretty much just dead eyes until he goes SSJ at the end. (It doesn't help that a lot of the arc is super difficult to read visually)

Trojita · May 15, 2018

Thanks for the change!

Silfer said:
Nice title change. Though now it makes me realize how long our OT title is lol.

One For All. Full Cowl. could be taken out. "Taking on a new Eri" is an OT pun that works on its own.

Stowaway Silfer · May 15, 2018

Trojita said:
One For All. Full Cowl. could be taken out. "Taking on a new Eri" is an OT pun that works on its own.

Haha yeah that actually would work on its own

NSESN · May 15, 2018

Jintor said:
I think the main thing is - none of it was effective at making me care about him. He has, like, a bunch of backstory about honour or reviving the Yakuza or loyalty to his oyabun or whatever but, like, none of it hit for me. It's all just... noise. He was in a situation and he made the evil decision because he is teh evils.

There's no denying he's competent and he's got a plan and he's following it through but, like, he doesn't really plug as effectively into the themes of ostrasization and misfitness that the villains do so he's also kind of uninteresting in a larger thematic context.

Honestly I feel like this a situation also where his visual design is kind of a hinderence. My mental image of him the entire arc is pretty much just dead eyes until he goes SSJ at the end. (It doesn't help that a lot of the arc is super difficult to read visually)

Eh... It sounds to me you are just dismissing everything positive about the character without think much about it. "because he is teh evils." is a very reductive way to explain his character.
I think the biggest mistake here is expecting him to be like LoV characters, he is not, his reasons are much less idealistic and much more objective.

bunkitz · May 15, 2018

I think we should've removed the Eri part and 100% since that was so long ago, but hey, better thread title still. I think.

Silfer said:
Do you guys think that if there's a someone in Tokoyami's family that has Dark Shadow but not a bird head, then their Dark Shadow just has a human-ish head?

That would be less interesting and more creepy...

Lotus · May 15, 2018

Silfer said:
Nice title change. Though now it makes me realize how long our OT title is lol.

Seems overcomplicated to me, Manga OT is much more straightforward.

Jintor said:
The weakness of that arc, aside from the Girl's Side battle being mainly offscreen (and with any luck an s4 will rectify that), is just that all the villains:

Look really similar with the plague doctor masks

Are all dudes with no huge variety in appearance besides the occasional bruiser

Just really aren't that interesting

And that kind of goes for Overhaul himself as well, who is kinda just some fuckin' asshole dude and any attempts to tell backstory with them falls kinda flat. Like, the Villain Alliance in this arc is weird and quirky and interesting, but the Yakuza arc has a bunch of dudes with cool abilities but that mostly just kind of scan really similarly.

This is why a reread or an anime adaptation isn't saving anything for me. At best, I'd warm up more to Deku's fight.

Jintor · May 15, 2018

NSESN said:
Eh... It sounds to me you are just dismissing everything positive about the character without think much about it. "because he is teh evils." is a very reductive way to explain his character.
I think the biggest mistake here is expecting him to be like LoV characters, he is not, his reasons are much less idealistic and much more objective.

it's the manga's job to make me think about it.

If I don't want to think about it, I won't. The manga did a poor job compelling in me the desire to think more deeply about the villain.

Compare Twice, a villain much further down the totem pole that the manga makes a far better job helping you to understand his warped point of view.

Stowaway Silfer · May 15, 2018

bunkitz said:
I think we should've removed the Eri part and 100% since that was so long ago, but hey, better thread title still. I think.

Maybe once we get into the next arc and have a good idea of what it'll be, we can think of a new one. Since we missed the boat on the Remedial Lessons and the Aoyama stuff and the festival and the Gentle stuff and........

bunkitz said:
That would be less interesting and more creepy...

Indeed it would.

NSESN · May 15, 2018

Jintor said:
it's the manga's job to make me think about it.

If I don't want to think about it, I won't. The manga did a poor job compelling in me the desire to think more deeply about the villain.

Compare Twice, a villain much further down the totem pole that the manga makes a far better job helping you to understand his warped point of view.

I don't think the manga did a poor job, Chisaki's backstory is pretty straightforward like I said before.

Jintor · May 15, 2018

Cool? I'm glad you had a good time. He's fine as a guy to punch, but that's kind of what most of the villains feel like in the arc to me: just dudes to punch.

Trojita · May 15, 2018

The Yakuza arc might be much better animated. Can fit at least 3 chapters into an episode. That way you don't get the blueballs from having a whole chapter be a flashback. Plus the shit after shit happening might do better for the tv viewers. It's gives off a similar level of urgency as the second half of the Chimera Ant Arc and the Yu Yu Hakusho 4 Saint Beasts arc. Even if we generally dislike filler, I'm guessing some people might like extra screen time for what the girls and Dragon Lady were doing. They did the same thing with showing Endeavor doing more during the Hosu City attack.

I just really want to see Mirio animated with his smile :)

Jintor · May 15, 2018

Mirio is seriously a baller.

His introduction when he phases menacingly through a wall and then tells Deku how to sort the trash is friggin hilarious.

Trojita · May 15, 2018

Jintor said:
Mirio is seriously a baller.

His introduction when he phases menacingly through a wall and then tells Deku how to sort the trash is friggin hilarious.

I legit thought he'd be a bad person. Deku has a problem with people seeming to menacingly be stalking him and then turn out to be good guy friends.

Stowaway Silfer · May 15, 2018

Mirio is too good.

Chase · May 15, 2018

It'd be funny if Mirio was the traitor and there's just a montage of him poking his head through walls to eavesdrop.

Jintor · May 15, 2018

plot twist: they're all the traitor

man there's a lot of things that horishiki kind of mentions offhand that he doesn't revisit that I really should have been noting down as i was rereading, cos now I can't remember what they were.

Dedication Through Light · May 15, 2018

sexualized mirio discourse.

Trojita · May 15, 2018

It still makes me laugh when remembering how someone summarized what Deku's interaction with Gentleman looks like without knowing the specifics

Deku beat up a cane walking old man in front of his crying french midget lover.

Lotus · May 15, 2018

Dedication Through Light said:
sexualized mirio discourse.

Wat

Silfer said:
Mirio is too good to be the traitor.

Yup

Trojita · May 15, 2018

Dedication Through Light said:
sexualized mirio discourse.

DNAbro · May 15, 2018

I feel like once you get a flashback/background you are free from traitor discussion.

Lotus · May 15, 2018

DNAbro said:
I feel like once you get a flashback/background you are free from traitor discussion.

Lol

Jintor · May 15, 2018

also one thing i kind of glossed over originally reading it week by week was when Sir gets his shirt blown off and underneath he's just fuckin' ripped

bunkitz · May 15, 2018

Y'all just gotta know when to ignore DTL sometimes.

Trojita said:
Deku beat up a cane walking old man in front of his crying french midget lover.

Lmao, that's hilarious.

NSESN · May 15, 2018

Nejire never got a flashback, just saying
But do we know who got a flashback so far? Iirc it is:
Deku, Bakugou, Iida, Todoroki, Ochako, Jirou, Kirishima, Mirio, Shinsou and Tamaki
Tsuyu didn't get a flashback but had an extra showing her life just before entering UA so I think she is safe too.
Hmm Momo had an arc focuse one her but I don't remember any flashback, Maybe Yonkou isn't wrong.

Chase · May 15, 2018

I wouldn't have any traitor plot in mind if not for this thread. Wouldn't be surprised if it's not a big deal.

Jintor · May 15, 2018

it's weird how horishiki keeps swerving around it. He'll bring it up, ignore it for 10 chapters, bring it up again, ignore it for another 10 chapters

weird

NSESN · May 15, 2018

Maybe the real traitor was the friends we made along the way

Moara · May 15, 2018

Jintor said:
it's weird how horishiki keeps swerving around it. He'll bring it up, ignore it for 10 chapters, bring it up again, ignore it for another 10 chapters

weird

It's especially weird because of the Aoyama fake out. I feel like it HAS to be one of the classmates because of that.

NSESN · May 15, 2018

I really like the aoyama fakeout because it was so troll, the anime onlys probably won't know what we passed because both chapters will probably be adapted together

Jintor · May 15, 2018

I still think given the way this world works it's probably just some random info gathering quirk the villains have or something

otherwise it's some kind of manchurian candidate thing or sleepwalky thing

that's the thing with quirks, it could literally be anything. Do we even know spinner's actual quirk yet

bunkitz · May 15, 2018

Chase said:
I wouldn't have any traitor plot in mind if not for this thread. Wouldn't be surprised if it's not a big deal.

I've considered this before, but the fact that it's been brought up a few times now has me thinking otherwise.

Then again... He does keep subverting our expectations. I could have sworn Nezu was going to be booted out of U.A. due to Gentle's infiltration and his argument with the authorities, but nothing. It ended peacefully and both Ectoplasm and Hound Dog have elected to buy into Gentle's story.

Dedication Through Light · May 15, 2018

Lotus said:
Wat

you know it will happen, kiri's sexualized hero outfit keeps being mentioned in anime threads after all. mirios clothes falling off next will be a target once animated.

bunkitz · May 15, 2018

Dedication Through Light said:
you know it will happen, kiri's sexualized hero outfit keeps being mentioned in anime threads after all. mirios clothes falling off next will be a target once animated.

Oh, okay, lol, never mind. I thought you were implying people here were having sexualized Mirio discourse.

Jintor · May 15, 2018

Tintin cannot be sexualised, i won't allow it.

The Big Three image edited to look like Bleach OP and Naruto still makes me laugh a lot

Takyon · May 15, 2018

Kreygasm

bunkitz · May 15, 2018

Takyon said:
Kreygasm

OH DAMN. That is some insanely good coloring!

BigWinnie1 · May 16, 2018

I doubt people looked at the names hard on the top 10 of the entrance exam. Class B was putting numbers up!

And My Boy Awase evidently can do some cool shit with His Quirk because he has the third Highest Villian Points

bunkitz · May 16, 2018

BigWinnie1 said:
And My Boy Awase evidently can do some cool shit with His Quirk because he has the third Highest Villian Points

All you need is to disable the machines, so I imagine simply merging them with the ground or the concrete was enough. Not that I'm saying it's any less of a victory, just the most likely way he went about it.

Jintor · May 16, 2018

I mean I just realised dude could probably merge people straight into the floor. Honestly his quirk is kinda absurd for CQC

bunkitz · May 16, 2018

Jintor said:
I mean I just realised dude could probably merge people straight into the floor. Honestly his quirk is kinda absurd for CQC

Dude would wreck almost anyone if The Boss trained him... Damn. Never realized that.

Jintor · May 16, 2018

Metal Gear but with superpowers

...ok more superpowers

bunkitz · May 16, 2018

Jintor said:
Metal Gear but with superpowers

...ok more superpowers

Quirks came from parasites, confirmed.

Jintor · May 16, 2018

Well i finally read the most recent chapter.

Hot damn that's some good shit, even with the clear scribbles.

Stowaway Silfer · May 16, 2018

Chase said:
I wouldn't have any traitor plot in mind if not for this thread. Wouldn't be surprised if it's not a big deal.

The Viz translation used the term "Mole" and I suppose they mean the same thing but honestly, to me one makes me think of "oh he/she is leaving and fighting alongside the villains and they've been faking it the whole time" while the other makes me think "leaking information, willfully or under duress" (informant basically). Idk but I just get different vibes from them.

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