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bxsonic

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Oct 30, 2017
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No, and yes. Star Fox Zero puppet style is the most realistic i want them to look (fuck assault and Adventures style).
It reminds me to the original box arts and Fantastic Mr Fox, and thats how Star Fox should be styled in.
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Star Fox Zero's problem was not the character art, it was the shitty bland remake assets art from Star Fox 64 3d enviroments and the low poly everything.
What they need to do is make the more realisticly craft model like, with the grunge painting and shadowing, and things like explosions looking like if they were made with fireworks inside a craft model (like the explosions of ships and the death star in the original star wars trilogy).
Something with this kind of craft hand painted textures and detailing would be spectacular:
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And explosions like this:
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Great suggestions. I'm hoping that since Retro is developing this, we might get something more impressive than the usual Star Fox games.
 

Plankton2

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It seems that Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition is also 1080p, and that will be case for Mario Tennis Aces, Captain Toad and Octopath Traveler, in any case we have more 1080p than 720p games. :)

No, its dynamic 864p-1080p resolution. Hub world is locked 1080p.

Ah cool thanks, I knew it was dynamic something thanks for the correction.
 
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Man I hope this was built from the ground up for Switch despite supposedly starting development on Wii U, if that makes sense. You can tell a lot of Nintendo's efforts thus far were held back since most of their titles thus far clearly spent a shit ton of time with the Wii U originally in mind.

I really, really want to see what Nintendo can do with the hardware.
 

MaitreWakou

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It would be really bad for Retro, meaning that they really ended cancelling a big project and that the Starfox game is only halfway development or so.
The game seems to be a 2019 title, with a little possibility for it to come out in 2018. If the game is not shown at E3... Then it means it will be a 2019 title. How would it mean that the game is only halfway development ? It would mean the dev has started when the Switch came out if it was in halfway of the dev lol
I THINK that Nintendo will show it at E3. Even if it wasn't the plan, I think they will because now it has heavily leaked. If not, then it will be announced 3 or 4 months before release, like 70% of Nintendo's games lol.
 

Tibarn

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The game seems to be a 2019 title, with a little possibility for it to come out in 2018. If the game is not shown at E3... Then it means it will be a 2019 title. How would it mean that the game is only halfway development ? It would mean the dev has started when the Switch came out if it was in halfway of the dev lol
I THINK that Nintendo will show it at E3. Even if it wasn't the plan, I think they will because now it has heavily leaked. If not, then it will be announced 3 or 4 months before release, like 70% of Nintendo's games lol.
Well my line of thought is: Retro has finished their last game more than 4 years ago, and the Nintendo fans are kind of worried about their projects. For Retro's sake, they will announce the game even if it's a 2019 game, like they announced Pokémon or MP4 last year, and if the game is in an advanced development phase we will see some kind of gameplay.
If Retro is absent from another E3, it will be not that good for their image, or at least is what I think.
 

Cinemikel

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The true plot twist would be that Retro announces both Star Fox and the other new project back to back, showing that they overcame the struggles and turned it around. And it's more in the direction people were hoping for from Retro. That way everyone is satisfied

Would only happen in Wonderland
 

Menx64

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Why do keep people still believe rumours if most of the time the tent to be different?? I remember the Zelda will not release worldwide on the same day rumours. Everyone and their mom said they heard the same thing, yet they were all wrong. What about the exclusive beyond good and evil?? Unless Ubisoft is leaking something I am not believing any Nintendo Rumours at all. Sources have proven wrong way to much. 4chan seems like a better place to find rumours tbh.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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According to Digital Foundry is only touches 1080p when nothing is happening on screen.

https://youtu.be/Fg9ptMnVJmI
I do think that comparison is probably not too accurate.
It seems like they focus on the single player hub world where the first map is really ugly due to the low resolution but the stages and later maps seem much nicer.
At least for me the only time i notice it get bad is in the section they showcased a lot.
It's one of the nicest looking switch games in any case and the rock solid 60fps is appreciated
Eh, too much edge for me.

Zero has the best Wolf design in my eyes. It's a nice blend of his 64 and Assault incarnations.

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The Zero designs are great.
The CG renders don't show them as nice as the character portraits and the anime do
 

MaitreWakou

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Why do keep people still believe rumours if most of the time the tent to be different?? I remember the Zelda will not release worldwide on the same day rumours. Everyone and their mom said they heard the same thing, yet they were all wrong. What about the exclusive beyond good and evil?? Unless Ubisoft is leaking something I am not believing any Nintendo Rumours at all. Sources have proven wrong way to much. 4chan seems like a better place to find rumours tbh.
They must have worked like hell in order to put Zelda at launch.
Beyond good and evil exclusive was only said by Laura K. Dale I think ? She was wrong on a lot of things about software on switch. Thing is, BGE2 was still announced in 2017, they were right about it's existence and reveal for 2017...
Here a lot of people have heard about the existence of the game. When professionals like Eurogamer go wild and says "we've heard this thing, we believe it", then there's like 90% of chance it will come out. 10% of chance it will die like Pokémon Stars which was indeed a thing.
 

Squaresoft

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You are free to post whatever you want, so do I to judge the interventions.

I'm probably more excited about this game than anyone here, all I'm saying is that people should keep their expectations realistic. For all we know it still is a racing game, even if it has missions, some kind of story and bosses all the details talk about cups, time laps and boosts. If you are expecting certain things of it you're surely going to be disappointed.

What details?
They are not in the op.
 

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Is there a new leaked logo?

Sorry, I saw it on this week's NVC episode so I thought it was well known. However I couldn't find an image of this version of the logo. So here is a timestamp: https://youtu.be/Jteq_lkRFu0?t=1320 (22mins in)
 

NeonStars

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I'm still skeptical. How often do we get internal Nintendo leaks about games that aren't outsourced to third parties or secondary studios?
 

Tibarn

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Why do keep people still believe rumours if most of the time the tent to be different?? I remember the Zelda will not release worldwide on the same day rumours. Everyone and their mom said they heard the same thing, yet they were all wrong. What about the exclusive beyond good and evil?? Unless Ubisoft is leaking something I am not believing any Nintendo Rumours at all. Sources have proven wrong way to much. 4chan seems like a better place to find rumours tbh.
Mostly because Eurogamer sounds confident about this, and for a big and serious videogame website like this is important to not share rumors that can damage their reputation.
And a lot of times, rumours are "outdated" information that leaked , but the company changed later.
The Starfox game can be a fake that spread a lot even between people with good information sources, but it seems legit enough considering some of the sources.
 

MaitreWakou

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I'm still skeptical. How often do we get internal Nintendo leaks about games that aren't outsourced to third parties or secondary studios?
It happens sometimes. I remember Laura K Dale teasing Arms in late 2016 "a new multiplayer IP by Nintendo EPD, kinda a la Splatoon, in a genre that is totaly new and innovative", and, well, that's exactly how Nintendo has promoted the game : "Arms is totaly new genre of fighting game."
I remember seeing rumors about a "kinda open world 3D Mario for NX launch" during 2016 in some french websites.
"4 dungeons, 120 mini dungeons for Zelda Breath of the Wild" was leaked by GameXplain also. That kind of things.
I dont remember rumors prior to Switch unfortunately.
 

NeonStars

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It happens sometimes. I remember Laura K Dale teasing Arms in late 2016 "a new multiplayer IP by Nintendo EPD, kinda a la Splatoon, in a genre that is totaly new and innovative", and, well, that's exactly how Nintendo has promoted the game : "Arms is totaly new genre of fighting game."
I remember seeing rumors about a "kinda open world 3D Mario for NX launch" during 2016 in some french websites.
"4 dungeons, 120 mini dungeons for Zelda Breath of the Wild" was leaked by GameXplain also. That kind of things.
I dont remember rumors prior to Switch unfortunately.
The 120 mini dungeons thing was leaked, but that was from a guide that was releasing with the game, not from any insider. Also there were interviews with the Mario devs after 3D world about going back to the sandbox formula so I wouldn't consider that a leak either. And there was no name drop for ARMS until the 4chan leak that detailed the entire Switch presentation, which insiders like Laura and Liam, ironically, said was wrong.
 

MaitreWakou

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The 120 mini dungeons thing was leaked, but that was from a guide that was releasing with the game, not from any insider. Also there were interviews with the Mario devs after 3D world about going back to the sandbox formula so I wouldn't consider that a leak either. And there was no name drop for ARMS until the 4chan leak that detailed the entire Switch presentation, which insiders like Laura and Liam, ironically, said was wrong.
Ah, Laura K Dale indeed said the list was wrong that's true lmao.
 

JershJopstin

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The 120 mini dungeons thing was leaked, but that was from a guide that was releasing with the game, not from any insider. Also there were interviews with the Mario devs after 3D world about going back to the sandbox formula so I wouldn't consider that a leak either. And there was no name drop for ARMS until the 4chan leak that detailed the entire Switch presentation, which insiders like Laura and Liam, ironically, said was wrong.
Wasn't that leak from someone who helped setup the event? I remember the only thing they got wrong was mistaking Cappy in the Odyssey logo for a plane. It was kinda funny looking back.
 

boris_

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There was a pilot named James Mccloud in F-Zero GX. He was an obvious reference to Starfox.

Maybe they are doing some F-Zero/ Starfox mashup.
 

David Sr.

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Feb 27, 2018
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What details?
They are not in the op.

Liam said a bunch of details about the game that he considered reliable in one of his recent podcasts, and more or less they match what had been told in IGN's article about the rumor:

The game would come out in 2019 and feature an open hub world like Rare's Diddy Kong Racing for Nintendo 64. Our sources suggest that each Grand Prix would be made up of three races that culminate in a boss battle and that players would be able to compete online. The core gameplay concept combines timed races and shooting, in that each defeated enemy results in a speed boost that would improve the player's "lap" time.
 

NeonStars

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Feb 23, 2018
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Wasn't that leak from someone who helped setup the event? I remember the only thing they got wrong was mistaking Cappy in the Odyssey logo for a plane. It was kinda funny looking back.
Yeah that's why I'm growing increasingly suspicious about this leak. If this was an outsourced game a la Mario and Rabbids, or a studio detached from Nintendo like Pokémon I'd believe it more, but there aren't many incidents of a game from Nintendo's internal, first party studios being leaked. Especially so far from E3.

In fact the only one I can think of in recent memory is Mario Maker, but even that was only leaked because someone actually talk of photo of it on the show floor.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I feel like the more you get into finer details the harder it is to believe them. Especially stuff like when the game is coming out or when it will first be shown. It's much easier to know if a game is real and maybe what it looks like than it is to know the internal scheduling of the whole company.

So I'd be surprised if the game wasn't real at this point, but I wouldn't be surprised if the finer details were wrong and the game releases this year, or if it doesn't we still see it at E3. Wouldn't even be surprised if many of the gameplay details spoken of end up wrong as well.
 

Rodento

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Wasn't that 'Grand Prix' logo debunked a few days ago? the NVC one is the same we have seen before with an SNES Arwing silhouette.

I want this game to be real but sometimes it's hard to believe it, not for how strange a Star Fox racer by Retro Studios sounds, but for how many of the game sites that reported it where just a "We heard it too" without really corroborating it. The specific gameplay details that were given by IGN (crediting the 'Nintendo fan community') or Liam podcast are just too similar to what was said by that reddit leaker that if I remember well failed in a lot of info that he provided in the past, and well, the only thing that I can say about Liam is how hit or miss his past reports were and that he sometimes gets carried away.

There are many individuals reporting about it and in this case it really seems that this is the real deal... but even so, I would take all of this with a grain of salt while there is not more solid evidence.

If it exists it will probably be announced in a month anyway
 

unicornKnight

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I feel like the more you get into finer details the harder it is to believe them. Especially stuff like when the game is coming out or when it will first be shown. It's much easier to know if a game is real and maybe what it looks like than it is to know the internal scheduling of the whole company.

So I'd be surprised if the game wasn't real at this point, but I wouldn't be surprised if the finer details were wrong and the game releases this year, or if it doesn't we still see it at E3. Wouldn't even be surprised if many of the gameplay details spoken of end up wrong as well.
this reminds me when insiders were were suggesting Mario Odyssey would launch with Switch and Botw would come in June.
 

Squaresoft

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Liam said a bunch of details about the game that he considered reliable in one of his recent podcasts, and more or less they match what had been told in IGN's article about the rumor:

The game would come out in 2019 and feature an open hub world like Rare's Diddy Kong Racing for Nintendo 64. Our sources suggest that each Grand Prix would be made up of three races that culminate in a boss battle and that players would be able to compete online. The core gameplay concept combines timed races and shooting, in that each defeated enemy results in a speed boost that would improve the player's "lap" time.

Ok thanks

I love kart games
Hope this game is real
 

David Sr.

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The specific gameplay details that were given by IGN (crediting the 'Nintendo fan community') or Liam podcast are just too similar to what was said by that reddit leaker that if I remember well failed in a lot of info that he provided in the past

Up to this point I don't doubt about the game's existence, but this is my major concern about believing the details shared about it. To me it seems that there is actually only one source that media keeps quoting as if it were several ones.
 

Plankton2

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The true plot twist would be that Retro announces both Star Fox and the other new project back to back, showing that they overcame the struggles and turned it around. And it's more in the direction people were hoping for from Retro. That way everyone is satisfied

Would only happen in Wonderland

Maybe I'm overoptimistic, but honestly wouldn't be shocked if we do get 2 Retro games in the next 2 years. Unless Star fox GP really does have a decently sized story, them hiring a cinematic designer for 2 years kinda points me to their other game still being made.
 

Papaya

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Oct 25, 2017
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Thanks! Glad to hear. I worry for Prime 4. Every time I see Prime, I remember how much of it felt unique to Retro. It almost feels like playing a Metal Gear without Kojima. I've resigned myself to accepting something different, but hopefully is great! A new team will hopefully utilize their strength, while keeping the core of Prime alive.
 

AndreGX

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The 120 mini dungeons thing was leaked, but that was from a guide that was releasing with the game, not from any insider.

The specific amount of 120 was, but I'm pretty sure that was after we had discussed there being 100+, which is what I believe MaitreWakou was referring to since he also mentioned "4 dungeons" which is one of several other details we had mentioned then
 
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