Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition |OT| Link, Young Link, and Toon Link walk into a bar...

borghe · May 21, 2018

ok so... I have this. Am up to.. umm.. where you get the first 3 branching areas (you have to go to the three different zones). I also beat the Linkle scenario.

So my question is... what is the point of the game? I mean I get Legend Mode (i.e. the main story). but what's the draw to keep going back through scenarios, build up your badges and weapons, etc?

So like Diablo III you have the Adventure mode and Greater Rifts to keep going through.. and most ARPGs have a progression system where there is a mode where the game keeps getting harder requiring you to grind stuff out to keep up with it. Is there anything like that here?

I guess I just don't understand why I would go through actually upgrading anything.. or what the path is for doing it, based solely on Legend Mode.. though have only done like 1 stage in adventure mode so far but don't really get it.

Mesoian · May 21, 2018

borghe said:
ok so... I have this. Am up to.. umm.. where you get the first 3 branching areas (you have to go to the three different zones). I also beat the Linkle scenario.

So my question is... what is the point of the game? I mean I get Legend Mode (i.e. the main story). but what's the draw to keep going back through scenarios, build up your badges and weapons, etc?

So like Diablo III you have the Adventure mode and Greater Rifts to keep going through.. and most ARPGs have a progression system where there is a mode where the game keeps getting harder requiring you to grind stuff out to keep up with it. Is there anything like that here?

I guess I just don't understand why I would go through actually upgrading anything.. or what the path is for doing it, based solely on Legend Mode.. though have only done like 1 stage in adventure mode so far but don't really get it.

Legend mode is just the story. There is an end.

Adventure mode is the meat and potatoes where you get the majority of your unlocks, new weapons, new characters and new scenarios.

For now, if you're going to stick with adventure mode, just upgrade your characters when you can. Everything basically opens up once you decide to pop into adventure mode.

Magnet_Man · May 21, 2018

borghe said:
ok so... I have this. Am up to.. umm.. where you get the first 3 branching areas (you have to go to the three different zones). I also beat the Linkle scenario.

So my question is... what is the point of the game? I mean I get Legend Mode (i.e. the main story). but what's the draw to keep going back through scenarios, build up your badges and weapons, etc?

So like Diablo III you have the Adventure mode and Greater Rifts to keep going through.. and most ARPGs have a progression system where there is a mode where the game keeps getting harder requiring you to grind stuff out to keep up with it. Is there anything like that here?

I guess I just don't understand why I would go through actually upgrading anything.. or what the path is for doing it, based solely on Legend Mode.. though have only done like 1 stage in adventure mode so far but don't really get it.

Literally no one gives a fuck about Legends mode other than to be a tutorial / unlock characters and items / get Heart Containers / Skultulas.

Adventure mode is the real meat of the game. Giant maps with different themes, rules, and challenges for each space you explore.

Rafavert · May 21, 2018

Mesoian said:
...

I need to rethink how I'm feeding my fairies.

Oh man...you seriously need to learn how to use blocking to suss out weakpoints. You're basically going to be REQUIRED to do it.

I mean you could level via rupies in both older versions too, but yeah.

There was one particularly annoying mission in the first adventure map where, in the WiiU version, Shiek had to fight through a bunch of big and small imprisoned. They gave that to toon link (or young link, one of the two) and it made things much easier.

I have a lot of time put into the original, but thus far, the real nightmare missions don't seem to be giving me the same level of trouble that they used to.

I know, but was wondering if it was cheaper now or something. It's a LOT of characters to level up...! The cap was raised back to 250, right?
Did you do any of the later WiiU maps, like TP and MM? (Though the Toon Link one is good news. That map was awful...)

Mikebison · May 21, 2018

Ok, so this game is crazy fun. Just playing through legend mode first but each characters moveset is so fun and different. Game performs really well docked too. Going to have a blast with this.

Mesoian · May 21, 2018

Rafavert said:
I know, but was wondering if it was cheaper now or something. It's a LOT of characters to level up...! The cap was raised back to 250, right?
Did you do any of the later WiiU maps, like TP and MM? (Though the Toon Link one is good news. That map was awful...)

It's 255 yeah.

The new Ganon's Rage mode is great for just scoring 100k in 10 minutes, and you can do things like force higher rupie collection on the Lorule map to net between 20-50k per mission you do.

It's not that it's faster, so much as there are a lot more options now. Gotta remember to create weapons that are good for farming and combine those with apothecary potions, fairy attributes and level attributes to get the most out of your farming.

That beign said, on the WiiU version, I'd usually net 350k per play session, and then dump all that into a new character at the end to get them to around level 60. You can do that a lot faster now. If you haven't, I'd suggest you do Ganon's Rage until you get sick of it (which you will), then return to the main game and not worry about money for a while.

Deleted member 8791 · May 21, 2018

Yeah I'm kinda into this now. 28% into my first Adventure Mode map... Shit's real lol. Some maps are a pain to A rank.

Rellyrell28 · May 21, 2018

And I cleared legends mode. I'll come back every now and then to get the skulltula's and heart pieces now it's mostly adventure mode.

Magyscar · May 21, 2018

Chauzu said:
Yeah I'm kinda into this now. 28% into my first Adventure Mode map... Shit's real lol. Some maps are a pain to A rank.

I remember finding the second map easier overall than the first one on the 3DS version. Could always make some progress there if you find yourself struggling. You'll get some higher level weapons as well.

Going through the maps enough to unlock all the characters might be worth doing. If there's one you really like then you'll get to use them more than if you unlock them later. There's two characters on the final map so if you did everything in order then you'd barely get to use them. Toon Link also has a new weapon on the Grand Travels map which isn't too hard to get early on. Middle left of the map.

Dineren · May 21, 2018

How long is Legends mode? I just

got the master sword

. Is there only one more mission?

Kinsei · May 21, 2018

Dineren said:
How long is Legends mode? I just

got the master sword

. Is there only one more mission?

There's quite a bit more to do, not to mention you also have the DLC stages from the Wii U version, the Wind Waker stages from the 3DS version, and the Linkle stages (if you haven't been doing them as you progressed.)

SpottieO · May 21, 2018

Dineren said:
How long is Legends mode? I just

got the master sword

. Is there only one more mission?

lol this happened to me last night. I thought I was close to done with the legends content and then I realized how much I had left.

Dineren · May 21, 2018

Kinsei said:
There's quite a bit more to do, not to mention you also have the DLC stages from the Wii U version, the Wind Waker stages from the 3DS version, and the Linkle stages (if you haven't been doing them as you progressed.)

SpottieO said:
lol this happened to me last night. I thought I was close to done with the legends content and then I realized how much I had left.

I thought that seemed short, thanks!

twisteh · May 21, 2018

Is there any way of seeing what adventure map grids you have already done without clicking A and going into each grid?

Smash Kirby · May 21, 2018

twisteh said:
Is there any way of seeing what adventure map grids you have already done without clicking A and going into each grid?

There should be a medal icon for what you beat it on with the square you have beat it on.

Balbanes · May 21, 2018

Mesoian said:
It's 255 yeah.

The new Ganon's Rage mode is great for just scoring 100k in 10 minutes, and you can do things like force higher rupie collection on the Lorule map to net between 20-50k per mission you do.

It's not that it's faster, so much as there are a lot more options now. Gotta remember to create weapons that are good for farming and combine those with apothecary potions, fairy attributes and level attributes to get the most out of your farming.

That beign said, on the WiiU version, I'd usually net 350k per play session, and then dump all that into a new character at the end to get them to around level 60. You can do that a lot faster now. If you haven't, I'd suggest you do Ganon's Rage until you get sick of it (which you will), then return to the main game and not worry about money for a while.

Do you have any advice for efficient Ganon's rage killing/farming/leveling? I've only ran the 5k and 7k ones a couple times and I'm around level 20. I don't seem to be getting many rupees, but maybe that will change once he levels up some more.

twisteh · May 21, 2018

Smash Kirby said:
There should be a medal icon for what you beat it on with the square you have beat it on.

Thank you so much. Playing handheld and would never have noticed that tiny icon in a million years lol.

Smash Kirby · May 21, 2018

twisteh said:
Thank you so much. Playing handheld and would never have noticed that tiny icon in a million years lol.

Glad to help, I can't wait to pick it up soon, myself. I have been tempted to play the 3DS version but I am trying to hold off.

twisteh · May 21, 2018

Smash Kirby said:
Glad to help, I can't wait to pick it up soon, myself. I have been tempted to play the 3DS version but I am trying to hold off.

It's my first time playing the game and I'm loving it. It's certainly addictive, and I'm not somebody who usually plays Warriors games at all. Adventure Mode is genius.

Jester37 · May 21, 2018

Adventure Mode is amazing! Can easily see myself playing on these maps for hours.

Also Manhandla sucks.

Smashwidget · May 21, 2018

Someone explain to me how the summoning gate is not literal perfection

Razmos · May 21, 2018

Smashwidget said:
Someone explain to me how the summoning gate is not literal perfection

My only issue with it is the randomness
But oh boy when you manage to ride Argorok and destroy some shit that weapon is awesome

Smash Kirby · May 21, 2018

twisteh said:
It's my first time playing the game and I'm loving it. It's certainly addictive, and I'm not somebody who usually plays Warriors games at all. Adventure Mode is genius.

Yeah I really like it and being able to play it looking really nice anywhere is great in my book.

Jester37 said:
Adventure Mode is amazing! Can easily see myself playing on these maps for hours.

Also Manhandla sucks.

Usually I try to stock up on the magic meter, I know it is called something else, and unleash my attack on Manhandla with the X strike while in that special mode.

Birdie · May 21, 2018

What does it mean when it says beat enemies with Special Attack...the yellow bar?

And if it also says clear first mission do I need to get the KOs during that mission?

Fleet of Foot · May 21, 2018

If I'm on an adventure mode square and there are three ways to go, and one says A, one says B, and the third says C, what does that mean?

Kinsei · May 21, 2018

Fleet of Foot said:
If I'm on an adventure mode square and there are three ways to go, and one says A, one says B, and the third says C, what does that mean?

that's the rank you need to get to unlock the square in that direction.

Anteo · May 21, 2018

Fleet of Foot said:
If I'm on an adventure mode square and there are three ways to go, and one says A, one says B, and the third says C, what does that mean?

The rank you need to get on the current block to unlock that particular next block

Fleet of Foot · May 21, 2018

Okay. And if the "A" rank victory is grayed our and it says "requires search" what does that mean?

Oreoleo · May 21, 2018

Fleet of Foot said:
Okay. And if the "A" rank victory is grayed our and it says "requires search" what does that mean?

You have to use candle/compass/bombs etc on the search screen (x button) to uncover secrets to earn the reward. For example, use the compass to show which tile has the secret behind it, then use one of the other items to remove whatever is on that tile (bushes and rocks, mostly). THEN getting an A rank will give you whatever the reward is.

Kayotix · May 21, 2018

I'm tempted to buy this and play it with my 5 year old son :)

Fleet of Foot · May 21, 2018

...this is going to take a while.

Kouriozan · May 21, 2018

People should not forget you can now buy Adventure mode items once you find one, just imagine we had to grind compass/candles on Wii U, that was crazy.

Magnet_Man · May 21, 2018

Fleet of Foot said:
...this is going to take a while.

This should be the OT2's title.

Dynheart · May 21, 2018

Bought this on the Wii U...my wife kind of took over the Wii U and the game, so I really never got a chance to play it when I was really interested (other games came along and ate my time). Now, buying this on the Switch (same problem as before, wife loves this game), but we own our own individual Switch consoles, so I can gank the cart when I go off on a business trip.

Needless to say, the game is a blast. I find it to be well worth the 60 bucks. I can also see this taking me years to complete, if I ever do complete it: just an insane amount of content.

Oreoleo · May 21, 2018

Kouriozan said:
People should not forget you can now buy Adventure mode items once you find one, just imagine we had to grind compass/candles on Wii U, that was crazy.

Yeah.. I can't even imagine what that would be like. Being able to buy the compass is a godsend.

Smashwidget · May 21, 2018

Kouriozan said:
People should not forget you can now buy Adventure mode items once you find one, just imagine we had to grind compass/candles on Wii U, that was crazy.

This was the reason I never got far in Adventure Mode in either of the other games, besides I think beating Ganon in Legends

Grizzel Greedigut · May 21, 2018

Well, I really like most of the Zelda games I've played, looking at you skyward sword, this looks ok. Is it just waves of mindless hordes with easy to kill mobs?

Professor Beef · May 21, 2018

Oreoleo said:
Yeah.. I can't even imagine what that would be like. Being able to buy the compass is a godsend.

it was fucking horrible, that's what it was like

QisTopTier · May 21, 2018

Grizzel Greedigut said:
Well, I really like most of the Zelda games I've played, looking at you skyward sword, this looks ok. Is it just waves of mindless hordes with easy to kill mobs?

It's a management game disguised as a beat em up game

Smashwidget · May 21, 2018

Grizzel Greedigut said:
Well, I really like most of the Zelda games I've played, looking at you skyward sword, this looks ok. Is it just waves of mindless hordes with easy to kill mobs?

It seems like that in the opening level but the game will very quickly start throwing 3 or 4 objectives across the map at you all at once. It's basically a game of managing your time effectively.

Medalion · May 21, 2018

There are def frame rate issues during cut scenes in handheld mode... the camera panning across the Eldin Caves was quite brutal

Hailinel · May 21, 2018

borghe said:
ok so... I have this. Am up to.. umm.. where you get the first 3 branching areas (you have to go to the three different zones). I also beat the Linkle scenario.

So my question is... what is the point of the game? I mean I get Legend Mode (i.e. the main story). but what's the draw to keep going back through scenarios, build up your badges and weapons, etc?

So like Diablo III you have the Adventure mode and Greater Rifts to keep going through.. and most ARPGs have a progression system where there is a mode where the game keeps getting harder requiring you to grind stuff out to keep up with it. Is there anything like that here?

I guess I just don't understand why I would go through actually upgrading anything.. or what the path is for doing it, based solely on Legend Mode.. though have only done like 1 stage in adventure mode so far but don't really get it.

Adventure Mode is the vast bulk of the game's challenging content. The challenges on the maps ramp up, and some Adventure maps come with tricks that prevents the act of clearing them from being straight forward.

Balbanes · May 21, 2018

The first few adventure mode missions needed 1200 KOs for A rank, but this one I did must need 1600+. I'd rather not kill 1600 on maps when I don't need to, so It's too bad they don't show the A rank requirements before the mission. It looks like the Hyrule Warriors Legends guide is outdated with this new iteration.

Magyscar · May 21, 2018

Balbanes said:
The first few adventure mode missions needed 1200 KOs for A rank, but this one I did must need 1600+. I'd rather not kill 1600 on maps when I don't need to, so It's too bad they don't show the A rank requirements before the mission. It looks like the Hyrule Warriors Legends guide is outdated with this new iteration.

A good tip for getting a load of kills is using the fairy blast near a group of enemy generals. You can get 500+ because enemies will just respawn mid animation and die immediately.

I usually end up with enough kills without trying. What sort of stage was the higher requirement for?

QisTopTier · May 21, 2018

Balbanes said:
The first few adventure mode missions needed 1200 KOs for A rank, but this one I did must need 1600+. I'd rather not kill 1600 on maps when I don't need to, so It's too bad they don't show the A rank requirements before the mission. It looks like the Hyrule Warriors Legends guide is outdated with this new iteration.

I think the game's brained video said anything that unlocks a weapon is typically 1600 kills

but yeah not saying what the requirements are is a pretty big oversight and it not even being added to this version is a bit on the weak side

Smashwidget · May 21, 2018

yo if any of yall are having trouble with the "all attacks are devastating" maps cause of having to use a slow character or w/e, remember that the Bow 1 shots everything in those maps

Professor Beef · May 22, 2018

i just learned that you can hit start to skip the victory fanfare

was this in the wii u version and i didn't realize!? i must've pressed every button except start back then and got nothing

Rellyrell28 · May 22, 2018

Smashwidget said:
yo if any of yall are having trouble with the "all attacks are devastating" maps cause of having to use a slow character or w/e, remember that the Bow 1 shots everything in those maps

All attacks are devistating=Just use the fucking bow

Kinsei · May 22, 2018

Professor Beef said:
i just learned that you can hit start to skip the victory fanfare

was this in the wii u version and i didn't realize!? i must've pressed every button except start back then and got nothing

Yep. It's been that way in every version of the game.

Professor Beef · May 22, 2018

Kinsei said:
Yep. It's been that way in every version of the game.

fml

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