Why women criticise sexualised character designs (READ OP)

Deleted member 29682 · May 24, 2018

sensui-tomo said:
Foreigners got the weird names like Laura lita (pun of lolita) WOTS 4 went into a weird route considering the previous 3 entries were not as bad (except the "I cant be a strong independant woman, i need a man, with the exclusion of that one female in WOTS3 who just wants revenge)

WOTS4 has some really strange localisation. However I do kind of love that the British Vice-Envoy is some weird foppish emo called Jet Jenkins. He's named like an Ace Attorney character.

So at least they're somewhat consistent in their crazy depiction of us.

Syril · May 24, 2018

Murkas said:
Iirc, Alien originally was gonna star a male but the creators thought it'll just be another run of the mill horror/sci-fi film, let's switch it up with a woman main character. According to these guys, wouldn't that be "diversity for diversity's sake"? Would we get these same responses if the woma

Actually the original sceenplay had a note saying "The crew is unisex and all parts are interchangeable for men or women."

Vlaphor · May 24, 2018

Brian Damage said:
This reminds me of Way of the Samurai 4's absurd character names.

Her name was originally a Japanese play on words

Melinda DeCameron

Deka Meron

Deka - Japanese for big/huge

Meron - Japanese pronunciation of melon

Deleted member 29682 · May 24, 2018

Vlaphor said:
Her name was originally a Japanese play on words

Melinda DeCameron

Deka Meron

Deka - Japanese for big/huge

Meron - Japanese pronunciation of melon

I know the origin, it's more of a dig against the localisation. DeCameron would be a fine name to stick with in English, but they decided to translate the joke directly and, naturally, it didn't work.

CannonFodder52 · May 24, 2018

Brian Damage said:
This reminds me of Way of the Samurai 4's absurd character names.

That name...

sensui-tomo said:
Foreigners got the weird names like Laura lita (pun of lolita) WOTS 4 went into a weird route considering the previous 3 entries were not as bad (except they all had some form of "I cant be a strong independant woman, i need a man, with the exclusion of that one female in WOTS3 who just wants revenge)

Was thinking of trying the PS2 games. Glad to hear this localization is mainly just in the 4th title.

UtterlyPerplexed · May 24, 2018

Platy said:
old war games are popular because a woman in the cover =P

SUCH FILTH. I had no idea the insidious SJW (((SOROS))) politically correct agenda stretched all the way back to 2000.

I mean, look at this. I can't wank to this so it's worthless. They should have put a man there because the only thing women fought at the time were infected wounds, not Nazis. Like what's the point of the woman? You might as well have put in Ewoks for the same level of historical accuracy. God, I hate this forced inclusion of women in my video games where they don't belong. Who do these developers think they are? It's almost like it's part of their creative vision or something, but I will angrily protest this because I'll only champion a developer's vision if it's to defend the sanctity of boobs and sexy, demure ladies I can get off to.

/s

atomsk eater · May 24, 2018

The historical accuracy argument is especially vexing even beyond being inaccurate because "games aren't all about accuracy and realism" is a common refrain heard in discussions about having more practical designs that don't slap miniskirts and high heels on every female character.

OhSatan · May 24, 2018

Xaszatm said:
What's even more annoying is the fact that multiple women did and do fight so "historical accuracy" is a garbage argument anyways.

"From the depths of hell in silence
Cast their spells, explosive violence
Russian night time flight perfected
Flawless vision, undetected"

Night Bomber Regiment 588
Nachthexen

Germans were scared dead of women flying wooden planes, they gave them the name night witches because of the fear they had of them.

But yeah the problem is that the all male war is form the american perspective mostly true and the world sees this in the movies and tv.

Deleted member 29682 · May 24, 2018

OhSatan said:
But yeah the problem is that the all male war is form the american perspective mostly true and the world sees this in the movies and tv.

And this isn't unique to WW2. This happens every time historical accuracy comes up.

"I don't really care, I just don't want peoples' perception of historical events to be twisted and biased by the media they consume."
- Person whose perception of historical events is twisted and biased by the media they consume.

sensui-tomo · May 24, 2018

CannonFodder52 said:
That name...

Was thinking of trying the PS2 games. Glad to hear this localization is mainly just in the 4th title.

best way to think of WOTS4 is basically like all the saints row titles after 2.... they went too silly. 1-3 for the most part are serious (outside of gimmicky outfits that you can wear and stuff, but the game itself does take serious tones) Hell outside of WOTS 4 i dont think there was any overt or over the top sexualization for any of the female cast of 1-3 (outside of some leather cat suit in the japanese deluxe edition of 3 ) only downside for the first two games is that they refer to use as him/masculine even when playing as a female, wots 3 iirc kinda did without any terms and went with "they/them/you/etc unless i missed any point)

Deleted member 5593 · May 24, 2018

The eyeliner on Battlefield V's key-art is completely unnecessary:

Redcrayon · May 24, 2018

AAK said:
The eyeliner on Battlefield V's key-art is completely unnecessary:

But what about love blooming on the Battlefield

sorry

Dary · May 24, 2018

AAK said:
The eyeliner on Battlefield V's key-art is completely unnecessary:

I'd be fine with the eyeliner if they'd just let the men in on all the fun. .

Saucycarpdog · May 24, 2018

(credit to Lost for this amazing photo.)

Dary · May 24, 2018

Saucycarpdog said:
(credit to Lost for this amazing photo.)

I legitimately can't tell if that photo is satire or not...

Squaresoft · May 24, 2018

AAK said:
The eyeliner on Battlefield V's key-art is completely unnecessary:

No it looks good
Makes her eyes look cool and more dangerous

Rocketjay · May 24, 2018

Xaszatm said:
What's even more annoying is the fact that multiple women did and do fight so "historical accuracy" is a garbage argument anyways.

Because the straight white male is the "default."

Squaresoft · May 24, 2018

Rocketjay8 said:
Because straight white male is the default.

That was the american army in ww2
The american army strictly had only men in combat
But of course not only white men

esserius · May 24, 2018

Squaresoft said:
That was the american army in ww2
The american army strictly had only men in combat
But of course not only white men

American women faced combat in WWII, though much of it went unreported or uncredited. This was in the face of huge amounts of sexism and racism towards their participation in the war. Though at the time it was technically the Army's policy to not have women participate in war, the practical reality simply wouldn't play out this way due to the number of women participating directly and indirectly, as well as the scale of the war requiring it.

Again, much of this goes unreported because the people who write the history books are often those least qualified to do so (especially considering of late that many of these texts are filtered and approved by state Senators and Congress, not by historians). It is one of the most blatant cases of white assholes literally re-writing history to suit their continued asshole-ry.

The American education of K-12 students on history is an absolute joke, and just yet another piece of the systemic bullshit that continues to plague the country.

Xaszatm · May 24, 2018

esserius said:
American women faced combat in WWII, though much of it went unreported or uncredited. This was in the face of huge amounts of sexism and racism towards their participation in the war. Though at the time it was technically the Army's policy to not have women participate in war, the practical reality simply wouldn't play out this way due to the number of women participating directly and indirectly, as well as the scale of the war requiring it.

Again, much of this goes unreported because the people who write the history books are often those least qualified to do so (especially considering of late that many of these texts are filtered and approved by state Senators and Congress, not by historians). It is one of the most blatant cases of white assholes literally re-writing history to suit their continued asshole-ry.

The American education of K-12 students on history is an absolute joke, and just yet another piece of the systemic bullshit that continues to plague the country.

It's even worse if you went do a religious school. At the third grade I was taught:

1. That after the first Thanksgiving, the Indians gave their land to the superior Pilgrims and that was the last conflict America had with them
2. The Civil War was not about slavery
3. That WWI and WWII were only won thanks to the Americans.

It was a mess.

Delusibeta · May 24, 2018

Dmax3901 said:
Game will be successful despite these fucking losers. This is what progression looks like you gross nerds.

I dunno, it's the first DICE game since Battlefront 2 and the accompanying lootbox brouhaha. I'll be surprised if it doesn't bomb as a direct result of that, honestly. (Battlefield 1 gaining a reputation of not being a particularly good Battlefield game doesn't help)

Squaresoft · May 24, 2018

esserius said:
American women faced combat in WWII, though much of it went unreported or uncredited. This was in the face of huge amounts of sexism and racism towards their participation in the war. Though at the time it was technically the Army's policy to not have women participate in war, the practical reality simply wouldn't play out this way due to the number of women participating directly and indirectly, as well as the scale of the war requiring it.

Again, much of this goes unreported because the people who write the history books are often those least qualified to do so (especially considering of late that many of these texts are filtered and approved by state Senators and Congress, not by historians). It is one of the most blatant cases of white assholes literally re-writing history to suit their continued asshole-ry.

The American education of K-12 students on history is an absolute joke, and just yet another piece of the systemic bullshit that continues to plague the country.

"During World War II, approximately 400,000 U.S. women served with the armed forces and more than 460 — some sources say the figure is closer to 543 — lost their lives as a result of the war, including 16 from enemy fire.

However, the U.S. decided not to use women in combat because public opinion would not tolerate it. Women became officially recognized as a permanent part of the U.S. armed forces after the war, with the passing of the Women's Armed Services Integration Act of 1948."

Also

http://mentalfloss.com/article/29219/11-women-warriors-world-war-ii

"Lt. Reba Whittle was the only U.S. female soldier to be imprisoned as a POW in the European theater of war. Whittle was a flight nurse with the 813th Medical Air Evacuation Squadron"

Big difference with women in europe and sovjet women in those countries there were women in combat
But this was just the policy of the usa back then
What can you do about it

Squaresoft · May 24, 2018

You know what was bad, the internment camps also in the usa during the war
Where they kept innocent Japanese Americans during the war of which many were american born

esserius · May 24, 2018

Squaresoft said:
"During World War II, approximately 400,000 U.S. women served with the armed forces and more than 460 — some sources say the figure is closer to 543 — lost their lives as a result of the war, including 16 from enemy fire.

However, the U.S. decided not to use women in combat because public opinion would not tolerate it. Women became officially recognized as a permanent part of the U.S. armed forces after the war, with the passing of the Women's Armed Services Integration Act of 1948."

Also

http://mentalfloss.com/article/29219/11-women-warriors-world-war-ii

"Lt. Reba Whittle was the only U.S. female soldier to be imprisoned as a POW in the European theater of war. Whittle was a flight nurse with the 813th Medical Air Evacuation Squadron"

Big difference with women in europe and sovjet women in those countries there were women in combat
But this was just the policy of the usa back then
What can you do about it

Policy is different from reality in every theater of war that has ever existed.
https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/19/opinions/ben-ghiat-wwii-women/index.html
The practical reality saw American women face combat, because necessity and survival will always overrule policy. Official accounts underreport or outright lie about the full extent of female involvement in World War II, in pretty much every account, regardless of whether or not it's American. The American lie is just one of the worst, and perhaps most problematically of all, is enshrined as "official" in the face of continued evidence to the contrary.

I think it's perfectly pardonable to believe that much of the history regarding the participation of women and minorities in war is full of, at best, inaccuracies about the extent of their participation, given that it is almost assuredly far more extensive than what is presented. I refuse to feed the lie to the contrary.

Rocketjay · May 24, 2018

LightEntite said:
I really, really don't understand why people do this.

compiling repulsive youtube comments i mean

they are never, EVER going to be hard to find, sans some future where an AI bot is able to perfectly delete comments like this (which will probably never happen for various complicated reasons)

Most of the cunts who do this are the type of hardline folk who'll say whatever they can to ruffle your feathers. Being included in a "THE INTERNET WAS A MISTAKE" compilation is quite literally the height of their lives...I just don't see why people so easily give them the attention they yearn for.

if you judge ANY community based on the loudest, vilest, most morally bankrupt and vocal members then humanity is a fucking mistake and everyone is unsalvageable trash

having you believe that they would represent the gaming community at large is the greatest achievement those comments could aspire to, stop letting that shit work so well

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ab...conversations-about-toxic-chat-culture.32159/
Tell that to twitch

Morrigan · May 24, 2018

LightEntite said:
I really, really don't understand why people do this.

compiling repulsive youtube comments i mean

Because it's important to continue showing how pervasive and toxic they are? If you don't confront a problem head-on you can't possibly even try to solve it.

Remember when Sarkeesian posted screencaps of all the vile harassment she received? It was eye-opening for many people.

Squaresoft · May 24, 2018

esserius said:
Policy is different from reality in every theater of war that has ever existed.
https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/19/opinions/ben-ghiat-wwii-women/index.html
The practical reality saw American women face combat, because necessity and survival will always overrule policy. Official accounts underreport or outright lie about the full extent of female involvement in World War II, in pretty much every account, regardless of whether or not it's American. The American lie is just one of the worst, and perhaps most problematically of all, is enshrined as "official" in the face of continued evidence to the contrary.

I think it's perfectly pardonable to believe that much of the history regarding the participation of women and minorities in war is full of, at best, inaccuracies about the extent of their participation, given that it is almost assuredly far more extensive than what is presented. I refuse to feed the lie to the contrary.

I wasnt there back then
Maybe american women were dropped above Europe and send up the coast of Normandy
I wonder how you do know that that happened but ohh well

Anyone who doesnt need to be on a battlefield is lucky
Its the ugliest thing there is

Getting your legs blown up for some rich or power hungry people because they started another war
Seeing friends getting their heads shot off around you
The video games we play make it look fun

Squaresoft · May 24, 2018

esserius said:
Policy is different from reality in every theater of war that has ever existed.
https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/19/opinions/ben-ghiat-wwii-women/index.html
The practical reality saw American women face combat, because necessity and survival will always overrule policy. Official accounts underreport or outright lie about the full extent of female involvement in World War II, in pretty much every account, regardless of whether or not it's American. The American lie is just one of the worst, and perhaps most problematically of all, is enshrined as "official" in the face of continued evidence to the contrary.

I think it's perfectly pardonable to believe that much of the history regarding the participation of women and minorities in war is full of, at best, inaccuracies about the extent of their participation, given that it is almost assuredly far more extensive than what is presented. I refuse to feed the lie to the contrary.

The link you post exactly says what i am saying

esserius · May 24, 2018

Squaresoft said:
I wasnt there back then
Maybe american women were dropped above Europe and send up the coast of Normandy
I wonder how you do know that that happened but ohh well

Anyone who doesnt need to be on a battlefield is lucky
Its the ugliest thing there is

Getting your legs blown up for some rich or power hungry people because they started another war
Seeing friends getting their heads shot off around you
The video games we play make it look fun

No, it doesn't, but whatever. The reality is much of what American women contributed to the war went underreported, uncredited, or has to fight through a veil of bullshit.

One of the lesser-known roles women played in the war effort was provided by the Women's Airforce Service Pilots, or WASPs. These women, each of whom had already obtained their pilot's license prior to service, became the first women to fly American military aircraft. They ferried planes from factories to bases, transporting cargo and participating in simulation strafing and target missions, accumulating more than 60 million miles in flight distances and freeing thousands of male U.S. pilots for active duty in World War II. More than 1,000 WASPs served, and 38 of them lost their lives during the war. Considered civil service employees and without official military status, these fallen WASPs were granted no military honors or benefits, and it wasn't until 1977 that the WASPs received full military status. On March 10, 2010, at a ceremony in the Capitol, the WASPS received the Congressional Gold Medal, one of the highest civilian honors. More than 200 former pilots attended the event, many wearing their World War II-era uniforms.

If you want to know how I know, it's because the women who participated in the war talked about it, and even now continue to fight to be treated and respected as equal participants in a war that affected them every bit as much as the men involved.

History can only be liberating when it speaks truth to power, and the history of women in war is continually undermined by systemic sexism and racism.

cosmicblizzard · May 24, 2018

It's true American women were not in combat/infantry roles in WWII in any official capacity as it would be a violation of policy. So yeah, if you're THAT much of a history purist, it may bother you if they do show it in an official capacity.

Thing is historical fiction allows you to take creative liberties to "fill in the blanks". Why not have a story of a group of women directly violating army policy? Why not do what Valkyria Chronicles 3 did and have a secret penal unit whose name was erased from history? A LOT of people were involved in WWII and it's impossible to compile all the individual stories that happened during that time. As long as it's interesting, who cares if its not recorded history?

But above all else, I don't know why anyone would be so hung up about historical accuracy and realism in a Battlefield game of all things. Of course, asking for realism in games in general is an alien concept to me, so what do I know?

Squaresoft · May 24, 2018

You and I are talking about different things

I am talking about combat on the battlefield

You are talking about women during ww2 in general in the american army

Like i posted in my first reply
400.000 women served in the us army during ww2 and about the wasp:

https://ww2db.com/other.php?other_id=25

Thats some more details
They werent combat pilots

Anyway, enough talked about this
I'm about to go on holiday to Greece :-)

esserius · May 24, 2018

Squaresoft said:
You and I are talking about different things

I am talking about combat on the battlefield

You are talking about women during ww2 in general in the american army

Like i posted in my first reply
400.000 women served in the us army during ww2 and about the wasp:

https://ww2db.com/other.php?other_id=25

Thats some more details
They werent combat pilots

Anyway, enough talked about this
I'm about to go on holiday to Greece :-)

You do realize the first sentence in the article you linked states that American women went to fight in WW2 as airforce pilots right?

I dunno how much more directly it can be stated. Yes, women were often uncredited for their service and, as the article you linked shows, had to put up with abhorrent conditions and sexism. Yet it's also a fact that they participated in combat situations, both directly and indirectly, even if they were often not given credit for their duties. They were not primarily allowed in combat due to prejudice, but that does not mean that they did not see it. Just because the government doesn't want to admit that they were understaffed and needed female personnel doesn't mean that women weren't there or participating.

Squaresoft · May 24, 2018

esserius said:
You do realize the first sentence in the article you linked states that American women went to fight in WW2 as airforce pilots right?

I dunno how much more directly it can be stated. Yes, women were often uncredited for their service and, as the article you linked shows, had to put up with abhorrent conditions and sexism. Yet it's also a fact that they participated in combat situations, both directly and indirectly, even if they were often not given credit for their duties. They were not primarily allowed in combat due to prejudice, but that does not mean that they did not see it. Just because the government doesn't want to admit that they were understaffed and needed female personnel doesn't mean that women weren't there or participating.

By far not all airforce pilots are combat pilots

Please read further than the first sentence about the kind of missions they did

But it really doesnt matter
Its still very brave and difficult what they did
Of course not only combat and bomber pilots should get recognistion

Also
About combat pilots and bombers
Its nothing to be proud of to drop endless amounts of bombs on cities where innocent real people live

Japan was already retreating
They were lost
The nucleair bombs on hiroshima and nagaski were really not neaded

2 cities completely annihilated
Teachers children gardeners artist bakers mothers all destroyed in a second for nothing

Just to test the bombs

esserius · May 24, 2018

Squaresoft said:
By far not all airforce pilots are combat pilots

Please read further than the first sentence about the kind of missions they did

But it really doesnt matter
Its still very brave and difficult what they did
Of course not only combat and bomber pilots should get recognistion

Also
About combat pilots and bombers
Its nothing to be proud of to drop endless amounts of bombs on cities where innocent real people live

Japan was already retreating
They were lost
The nucleair bombs on hiroshima and nagaski were really not neaded

2 cities completely annihilated
Teachers children gardeners artist bakers mothers all destroyed in a second for nothing

Just to test the bombs

I'm aware of the majority of the missions in which they were given credit. I'm also aware the military is a particularly shit place for getting credit, especially when it's in anything you're not "supposed" to do. Regardless of whether their actions are good or bad, they deserve attribution for them. You can decide to respect the duties they went through or not, but my issue is with the flagrant denial of their participation. It is assured that there were times in which they took on combat roles, even if they weren't technically allowed to.

This is an issue with any military organization, and given that I know more than a few people who are minorities in the military, I can tell you right now that they are definitely, frequently not given credit for their participation. You seem to think that the story that gets reported is somehow the end of the discussion, but what gets reported and what actually happens, especially in military organizations, are almost always two points that are very far from one another.

RalchAC · May 24, 2018

I'm not too well versed in WW2, since Spain wasn't part of it and there was a bigger emphasis in my education about the Spanish Civil War (1936-1939), which basically was the testing ground for a lot of tech and tactics that the Axis would then use in WW2.

I'm certain that there were women fighting in the Republican forces (the legitimate government chosen a few months before the conflict). I'd expect WW2 to be the same, really. A lot of Spanish people fled to France after the war and some joined the rural French Resistance against German occupation (and a lot ended in concentration camps in France too).

You could easily have them in the conflict in one form or another, to add another example. I just read an article that mentioned a woman that was a Captain during the Spanish Civil War. Mika Etchebéhère. Cool stuff.

SieteBlanco · May 24, 2018

It's a dumb conversation because making a GAME out of a real war is silly and disrespectful to begin with.

RedHoodedOwl · May 24, 2018

Xaszatm said:
Oh good, just more evidence of our fall of man....and more proof of how the story is just soooooo skivvy.

Why is Leona wearing a bikini and cat ears?

Syril · May 24, 2018

RedHoodedOwl said:
Why is Leona wearing a bikini and cat ears?

Probably the same reason they're sexualizing Kula, whose stated age is 14.

RedHoodedOwl · May 24, 2018

Syril said:
Probably the same reason they're sexualizing Kula, whose stated age is 14.

Mai is cosplaying as a cow.

Morrigan · May 24, 2018

SieteBlanco said:
It's a dumb conversation because making a GAME out of a real war is silly and disrespectful to begin with.

Er, really now? So all games set in historical periods (that happen to be wars) are "silly and disrespectful"? What about games like Age of Empires?

Xaszatm · May 24, 2018

RedHoodedOwl said:
Why is Leona wearing a bikini and cat ears?

Oh, because in-story a creepy man kidnapped all the girls to fight in revealing outfits against their will while secretly (and overtly) recording their every action. No I'm not kidding. This was the angle.

Opa-Pa · May 24, 2018

Xaszatm said:
Oh, because in-story a creepy man kidnapped all the girls to fight in revealing outfits against their will while secretly (and overtly) recording their every action. No I'm not kidding. This was the angle.

Uuh what the hell.

SieteBlanco · May 24, 2018

Morrigan said:
Er, really now? So all games set in historical periods (that happen to be wars) are "silly and disrespectful"? What about games like Age of Empires?

The game in which the Aztecs can wage war against the Japanese?

Morrigan · May 24, 2018

SieteBlanco said:
The game in which the Aztecs can wage war against the Japanese?

I haven't actually played those, I just listed games with historical settings of war. Maybe AoE, specifically, is more fantasy than I thought, but my question remains. Are you opposed to all games set in historical war settings?

Tizoc · May 24, 2018

RedHoodedOwl said:
Why is Leona wearing a bikini and cat ears?

Supposed to be based off an old 4 koma comic strip

Mai is a cow cuz of her chest. It's kind of a common trope of sorts.

SieteBlanco · May 24, 2018

Morrigan said:
I haven't actually played those, I just listed games with historical settings of war. Maybe AoE, specifically, is more fantasy than I thought, but my question remains. Are you opposed to all games set in historical war settings?

No? I personally don't mind if something is silly or even relatively offensive; in the end, I'm just not fooling myself into thinking games like these aren't intended to make WAR fun.

Thorrgal · May 24, 2018

OhSatan said:
"From the depths of hell in silence
Cast their spells, explosive violence
Russian night time flight perfected
Flawless vision, undetected"

Night Bomber Regiment 588
Nachthexen

Germans were scared dead of women flying wooden planes, they gave them the name night witches because of the fear they had of them.

But yeah the problem is that the all male war is form the american perspective mostly true and the world sees this in the movies and tv.

Amazing Garth Ennis comic book.

Also there were plenty of women fighing on the republican side of the spanish civil war againts the fascist forces of Franco, who got the help of Hitler and Mussolini's air forces. Some even went on to join the french resistance (the ones that could get away)

Of course they were then abandoned by France, the UK and the US after they won their war, and many ended up on concentration camps and prisons in Spain, raped, dead, etc..

After seeing some of the recent events over there (la manada, rappers getting jailed for their lyrics, catalan political prisoners) one would said not much have changed over there

RalchAC · May 24, 2018

Thorrgal said:
Amazing Garth Ennis comic book.

Also there were plenty of women fighing on the republican side of the spanish civil war againts the fascist forces of Franco, who got the help of Hitler and Mussolini's air forces. Some even went on to join the french resistance (the ones that could get away)

Of course they were then abandoned by France, the UK and the US after they won their war, and many ended up on concentration camps and prisons in Spain, raped, dead, etc..

After seeing some of the recent events over there (la manada, rappers getting jailed for their lyrics, catalan political prisoners) one would said not much have changed over there

The situation in Catalonia is not black and white. I'm not going to turn this into a political discussion about it, because that's not what the thread is about, but... it's more complicated than that.

Rocketjay · May 24, 2018

Tizoc said:
Supposed to be based off an old 4 koma comic strip

Mai is a cow cuz of her chest. It's kind of a common trope of sorts.

Don't you mean fetish?

RedHoodedOwl · May 24, 2018

Xaszatm said:
Oh, because in-story a creepy man kidnapped all the girls to fight in revealing outfits against their will while secretly (and overtly) recording their every action. No I'm not kidding. This was the angle.

What!

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