Solo: A Star Wars Story |OT| Ron Shot Last [SPOILERS]

It was fine. Competently made, a little exhausting at times. My biggest problem is the same one I had walking in, it just didn't feel like a story that needed to be told. Maybe that's a self-fulfilling prophecy, but outside of my elementary school cafeteria, I just never felt any sort of compulsion to see Han and Chewie meet on screen, or see how the Kessel Run went down.

Oozer said:

Jon Kasdan has said he regularly scoured Wookiepedia for deep cut lore that could be included. I wouldn't be surprised if Maul was his idea.

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Snoke would have been more interesting.

Anyone else get the feeling that at one point Nest was going to be revealed as the Becketts' daughter?

They namedropped Aura Sing and Bossk too.

Thought that was neat

Liked it a lot more than I was expecting!
The second Star Wars movie I've ever enjoyed (other being TFA).

Best cast of characters in the series and overall a ton of fun.
Kira is over a billion times better for Han than Leia ever was. LOVED Kira

I can't believe Solo left me wanting to see a sequel more than Episode VIII

Dook's Revenge said:

Anyone else get the feeling that at one point Nest was going to be revealed as the Becketts' daughter?

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She kept talking about her mom. I wonder who that was meant to be?

Was better than I expected probably will be better on repeat: I actually really like Alden now. This felt super short and like a solo trilogy setup with Maul I know Rebels covered it but shit a Ewan Obi-Wan movie needs to happen now.

Dook's Revenge said:

Anyone else get the feeling that at one point Nest was going to be revealed as the Becketts' daughter?

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I thought for sure she was when she took her helmet off.

Einchy said:

I thought for sure she was when she took her helmet off.

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Same here

The way she spoke, her role, her tone, and her general demeanor reminded me more of Erso than anything.

That's not possible obviously, but if it was it would definitely fit.

That little alien pilot felt like a complete knock off of Rocket Raccoon, and I was so relieved when he got killed.

Dook's Revenge said:

Anyone else get the feeling that at one point Nest was going to be revealed as the Becketts' daughter?

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I was seriously confused by that reveal, because from the way it was filmed it seemed like we were supposed to have some idea who she was, but apparently she wasn't any sort of pre-existing character.

BrokenFiction said:

She kept talking about her mom. I wonder who that was meant to be?

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I was thinking the dead Mrs Beckett, Thandie Newton.

Sean C. said:

I was seriously confused by that reveal, because from the way it was filmed it seemed like we were supposed to have some idea who she was, but apparently she wasn't any sort of pre-existing character.

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I think it was because she was so young.

Disney's Star Wars universe is already referencing the TV shows more than the MCU ever has.

ZeoVGM said:

Disney's Star Wars universe is already referencing the TV shows more than the MCU ever has.

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Oh
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Just got home from my showing. I simply loved the movie.

Alden did great. The cast all around was very good. I loved all three acts - not sure why the first act doesn't get more love. I felt everything on Han's home planet, and his initial connection with Qira was very engaging. Also we finally got that "war" environment I hoped for in RO.

They worked in so many things that I expected to be ham fisted but actually worked out quite organically. The Solo name, meeting Chewie, the blaster, the Kessel Run and winning the ship; none of it made me groan like I thought it would. It was endearing and felt genuine.

I also worried about L3 from the trailer, but wound up really liking her character and internal awareness.

Kind of shocked, but this feels like the most consistent of the four new films. Not necessarily my favroite of them, but the most cohesive. No glaring weak spots like the rathtar sequence, CGI Tarkin, or goofy Canto Bight stuff. I can't identify any specific low moments or glaring issues like I can with the others. Dope movie.

Yeah, I enjoyed the first act and thought Alden did a great job.

It wasn't an impression of Harrison but it was Han. I was happy with his performance.

Slythe said:

Alden did great. The cast all around was very good. I loved all three acts - not sure why the first act doesn't get more love. I felt everything on Han's home planet, and his initial connection with Qira was very engaging. Also we finally got that "war" environment I hoped for in RO.

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Yeah, I definitely wasn't getting the complaints about the first act.

And it deserves more than 69% on Rotten Tomatoes, while The Last Jedi maybe deserved a little bit less. Crazy that Revenge of the Sith is so high.

Han's speeder appears to be a literal bookmobile.

Drewton said:

Crazy that Revenge of the Sith is so high.

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Eh, times have changed a bit. A movie like RotS would be judged more harshly today. The overall quality of blockbuster films is higher than they used to be.

Yeah first act is really strong and seeing stuff like the empire in action on a battlefield was so cool to see in a movie.

Anth0ny said:

- Fuck Darth Maul, who gives a shit about that garbage character from that garbage movie. Stop reminding me that those movies happened STOP IT

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lol no

ZeoVGM said:

Eh, times have changed a bit. A movie like RotS would be judged more harshly today. The overall quality of blockbuster films is higher than they used to be.

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It was also coming after the first two prequels and was the one prequel to feature the stuff people really wanted to see, so yeah, standards were different.

i wish all the people on the internet who cared about this movie enough to see it on opening night and thought it was "fine" would just admit they liked it.

Dook's Revenge said:

Very amusing.

When Solo was retrieving the coaxium, was that a brief visual reference to Indy in the map room?

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It for sure was, once he flipped that helmet/disguise up and held that staff at the entrance of the room, total Indy map room vibe!

Drewton said:

It was also coming after the first two prequels and was the one prequel to feature the stuff people really wanted to see, so yeah, standards were different.

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This too.

Just got back and enjoyed it more than I thought I would. Never doubt Ron Howard. I think the RT summary is a perfect summation of the movie.


Dat train heist scene and score doe

kevin1025 said:

It for sure was, once he flipped that helmet/disguise up and held that staff at the entrance of the room, total Indy map room vibe!

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That it was so brief was good. They really could have overplayed that.

Also lol at coaxium looking like coaxial cables.

EDIT: And bonus lol at L3's clit joke.

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Yeah, I definitely wasn't getting the complaints about the first act.

And it deserves more than 69% on Rotten Tomatoes, while The Last Jedi maybe deserved a little bit less. Crazy that Revenge of the Sith is so high.

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I agree. I would guess that 69% has some sort of connection to the negative stigma around both this film and the SW franchise the last 6 months.

Several of the critics I've followed in the past have soured considerately on the movies. I've noticed a big shift toward cynicism in a lot of the coverage on places like Collider. I'm not gonna say they're wrong, because it's all subjective ... I just don't connect with their criticisms on this movie at all.

Eh, to each their own.

Disney is four for four as far as I'm concerned. I love them having this franchise.

ZeoVGM said:

Disney is four for four as far as I'm concerned. I love them having this franchise.

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Yep. They are on a roll with great stories.

ZeoVGM said:

Disney is four for four as far as I'm concerned. I love them having this franchise.

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Agreed wholeheartedly.

After all the drama, Solo is a darn good movie.

So did Qira have a different costume in this scene when the other directors were filming?

BrokenFiction said:

She kept talking about her mom. I wonder who that was meant to be?

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I got really distracted during that, because I had heard there was a big reveal in the movie, and thought it had something to do with her or her mom and I kept racking my brain trying to figure which obscure Star Wars character she was

Will Ben/Kylo watch his father movies ?

I'm impressed/mildly disappointed that the Kasdans snuck in an "I know" reference:

"I hate you."

"I know."

The great shot of the Star Destroyer appearing from out of the dust clouds from the Super Bowl commercial was different in the movie to be seen through the cockpit of the Falcon. I liked it better before.

P.S. Bradford Young did a heck of a job on the film. The whole thing looks great.

Kurdel said:

Only the deepest cuts are served here

like Episode 1 fan service, for example

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I was not referring to just his existence, but primarily to his place in the universe at that point in time. His inclusion in Solo is not as out of left field as it appears. Previous canon materials have already established him in roughly that position (i.e. messing around with the crime syndicates) at that time period.

One thing I will say that is kind of a negative.

While I really loved the third act and where it left Han as a character, I really just don't see how this Han becomes the OT Han in such a relatively short period of time. He has a general sense of hope and optimism at the end of this (and really throughout honestly) that just doesn't exist as openly in OT Han.

Like I really liked the movie, but who Han is as a character seems kinda incongruous with what we see later in the series. To be honest I kind of like this version more, but that's neither here nor there.

So, I thought this was pretty bad. Very thin plot connecting a bunch of action scenes that all went on for too long. Too many characters I didn't care about. Alden Ehrenreich as Han did not work for me. It felt like a Harrison impression and not him playing young Han. He tried to sound like him, and copy some of Harrisons mannerisms, such as the pointing, but it just didn't work for me. Donald Glover did a pretty good job as Lando, but he was underutilized. Emilia Clarke as Qi'ra was fine, but I never really cared about her as a character. Chewbacca was cool I guess. We got to see him move around more than we are used to. L3's plotline with freeing the droids added absolutely nothing. Still I didn't mind the character, especially when coupled with Lando. Woody Harrelson was great as always, if a bit predictable as a character. Paul Bettany wasn't in the movie. This movie just keeps going and going. There were three or four times when I thought the film was about to be over, and it just wouldn't stop. I had Return of the King flashbacks.

Why the fuck cant his name be Solo? Seriously, why? That scene made me facepalm so fucking hard. So I guess we have to refer to him as Han "Solo" now eh? References galore! Bossk? Check! Gangster on Tattooine? Check! Gold Dice? Check! Disguises? Check! Throwback to the Rancor scene? Check! Space Chess? Check! Teras Kasi? Uhh... check! Maul? Ok I wasn't expecting this one, and it was pretty cool, even though I don't understand why he's in THIS movie, but check! Oh yeah, this movie has all the references you want! Seriously though, I'm getting sick of the constant references being used as a crutch. The constant fan service/wankery is getting damn obnoxious.

The film feels aimless. It tries to pretend it's bigger than it really is. Instead of focusing on characters, the film is called Solo after all, it's more concerned with boring, overlong, confusing action scenes. No thanks. So what did we learn? We know Han had a father, we know how he got the name Solo, we know how he met Chewbacca and Lando, and we know how he got his Blaster. Yay?

Rankings:

The Last Jedi
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
Star Wars
The Force Awakens
Rogue One
Solo
Revenge of the Sith
The Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones

Serene said:

One thing I will say that is kind of a negative.

While I really loved the third act and where it left Han as a character, I really just don't see how this Han becomes the OT Han in such a relatively short period of time. He has a general sense of hope and optimism at the end of this (and really throughout honestly) that just doesn't exist as openly in OT Han.

Like I really liked the movie, but who Han is as a character seems kinda incongruous with what we see later in the series. To be honest I kind of like this version more, but that's neither here nor there.

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This is 10 years before ANH according to LFL.

BrokenFiction said:

This is 10 years before ANH according to LFL.

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I just don't think, barring some sea-changing event we're unaware of, I can see how this version of Han becomes that version. They seem like they have different worldview entirely.

So I REALLY liked the film. Not quite sure if I loved it. The first act was really uninspired and uninspiring. The second act started out fun and ended up thrilling and awesome. The third act was extremely well done and both wrapped up the story and brought it into the saga. I loved that it brought it only so far as Rebels and not the OT. Though I'm a little confused. So did he end up owing Jabba the debt for like 10-14 years? Maul is still alive so this is before Obi-wan killed him in Rebels. Just confused at the points in time.

Anyway I had no expectations for the movie and I just greatly enjoyed almost all of it, though I was worried when the beginning didn't really grab me or have me caring. Fortunately both Han and Kira came into their own respectively after that humdrum act.

Serene said:

I just don't think, barring some sea-changing event we're unaware of, I can see how this version of Han becomes that version. They seem like they have different worldview entirely.

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He is a lot more cynical in ANH, to be sure, but 10 years is a long time to change and get more scruffy looking.

Serene said:

One thing I will say that is kind of a negative.

While I really loved the third act and where it left Han as a character, I really just don't see how this Han becomes the OT Han in such a relatively short period of time. He has a general sense of hope and optimism at the end of this (and really throughout honestly) that just doesn't exist as openly in OT Han.

Like I really liked the movie, but who Han is as a character seems kinda incongruous with what we see later in the series. To be honest I kind of like this version more, but that's neither here nor there.

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I haven't seen it talked about it much, I thought

Drewton said:

I haven't seen it talked about it much, I thought

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Han killing his mentor was great because I saw it as a turning point for him no longer being the good person that Qira saw him as. This is the moment Han becomes more ruthless.

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Nah, given his immediate reaction and the way he played it afterwards, I didn't buy that as a turning point. Not to that degree, at least.

Drewton said:

I haven't seen it talked about it much, I thought

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Han killing his mentor was great because I saw it as a turning point for him no longer being the good person that Qira saw him as. This is the moment Han becomes more ruthless. Killing Beckett and being abandoned by Qira should both harden him.

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I agree. This is what I thought immediately as well.

borghe said:

So I REALLY liked the film. Not quite sure if I loved it. The first act was really uninspired and uninspiring. The second act started out fun and ended up thrilling and awesome. The third act was extremely well done and both wrapped up the story and brought it into the saga. I loved that it brought it only so far as Rebels and not the OT. Though I'm a little confused. So did he end up owing Jabba the debt for like 10-14 years? Maul is still alive so this is before Obi-wan killed him in Rebels. Just confused at the points in time.

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Han's debt to Jabba is for dumping a huge load of spice, so that happens later, closer to ANH.

I was bored out of my mind for the first half of the film. Once they got to Kessel things picked up. Better than I thought it would be, certainly.

Donald Glover was fantastic. Guy playing Solo was... OK. But everyone else was much better.


Any tl:dr explanation for what the hell was going on with Kira and Darth Maul at the end? I heard there was a special cameo at the end, but figured it was going to be Bobba Fett.

Serene said:

I just don't think, barring some sea-changing event we're unaware of, I can see how this version of Han becomes that version. They seem like they have different worldview entirely.

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The ten years from 20 to 30 can change a person a hell of a lot. Especially when you spend those ten years in the underworld running jobs and scams.

Sure Han puts a smile on at the end of the movie, but Qira leaving him for sure ripped his heart out.

Serene said:

I just don't think, barring some sea-changing event we're unaware of, I can see how this version of Han becomes that version. They seem like they have different worldview entirely.

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Everything he's done so far is literally for Qi'ra. Once that gets snatched he's going to sulk and become negative. Its an easy leap.