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Pokémon Let's Go Eevee/Pikachu (Switch) announced; coming Nov 16th 2018
- Thread starter Xavi
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Yeah, I would be tentatively part of the outrage if that weren't the case (and I'm not even a Pokemon fan), but either people believe it's gonna be like LG despite the nature of the announcement or some were like "but I already got the pitchforks out and everything, might as well".
There are a lot of things in this game that I would love to see in a proper Gen VIII game, the whole following pokemon and being able to ride and surf on any pokemon large enough to hold you should be a staple by now anyway! HMs should never come back, they are the worst part of the games that use them, for example I'm endgame at Mt. Silver in Gold right now and in order to get to Red I need Pokemon that know FLASH for christ sake, I;m about to battle the hardest trainer in the game and they are forcing me to sacrifice a moveslot to FLASH!
It's true that LGP/LGE are a simplification in various points but can we wait a little bit for seeing more news about the game before saying that they are going to be boring and empty of content?
LMAOI'm not really into the localised names for the UK. They're just not as catchy.
But hey, at least we got the games a year early.
Borderline clairvoyant amirite
What a fool I was. I could not have seen wild battles being completely removed. As someone who desperately wants them to overhaul IVs and EVs I don't think CP is the way to go. Who knows what other bizarre changes they might implement.
They could easily make a good Yellow remake. They could make a good Yellow remake with Pokemon Go features. But it seems like Game Freak completely doesn't understand what makes Pokemon Go appealing. It's not that it's only the first 151 or that you throw a ball, but the idea that you actually have to go hunt for Pokemon in real life. Different places have different Pokemon, it feels like a legitimate adventure. The social aspect is a huge part of it as well (something they are admittedly focusing on with this game). Plus the general mindless bar filling nature of the game hooks people who are susceptible to that aka mobile gamers.
No one cares about the ball throwing mechanic at all. You don't even have to look at the screen. If it was just a "tap fast to catch the Pokemon!" mechanic Go would still be popular. The capture mechanic is not strategic or engaging. Maybe it changes for tougher raid battles, but you could throw the ball whenever. The circle seems to have very little effect. A blind person would eventually catch a Pokemon in Go.
I'm sure this game will sell well, maybe even around 15+ million like XY and SM, but I have to question to crossover between people who are going to buy this game and people who are played Go. The game is still popular now, hell I turn it on every now and then, but the audience is not the same as someone who is going to drop $300 on a Switch and then $60 on this (plus $50 on a ball if you want that). I see old ass people in the park or on the train playing Go. Are they going to swing by an electronic store and drop $400 so they can play this? The same goes for the lapsed Go fans who played it like crazy during the summer of 2016 and haven't played since. Sun and Moon came out months after Go, and while it certainly got a big boost in sales thanks to the attention, it wasn't astronomically higher. Sold almost the same as XY which released years earlier.
As someone who likes Pokemon, Gen I, and Go (it's not a good game but I like it), it feels like it's completely missing the mark on why those three things are popular.
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What a fool I was. I could not have seen wild battles being completely removed. As someone who desperately wants them to overhaul IVs and EVs I don't think CP is the way to go. Who knows what other bizarre changes they might implement.
They could easily make a good Yellow remake. They could make a good Yellow remake with Pokemon Go features. But it seems like Game Freak completely doesn't understand what makes Pokemon Go appealing. It's not that it's only the first 151 or that you throw a ball, but the idea that you actually have to go hunt for Pokemon in real life. Different places have different Pokemon, it feels like a legitimate adventure. The social aspect is a huge part of it as well (something they are admittedly focusing on with this game). Plus the general mindless bar filling nature of the game hooks people who are susceptible to that aka mobile gamers.
No one cares about the ball throwing mechanic at all. You don't even have to look at the screen. If it was just a "tap fast to catch the Pokemon!" mechanic Go would still be popular. The capture mechanic is not strategic or engaging. Maybe it changes for tougher raid battles, but you could throw the ball whenever. The circle seems to have very little effect. A blind person would eventually catch a Pokemon in Go.
I'm sure this game will sell well, maybe even around 15+ million like XY and SM, but I have to question to crossover between people who are going to buy this game and people who are played Go. The game is still popular now, hell I turn it on every now and then, but the audience is not the same as someone who is going to drop $300 on a Switch and then $60 on this (plus $50 on a ball if you want that). I see old ass people in the park or on the train playing Go. Are they going to swing by an electronic store and drop $400 so they can play this? The same goes for the lapsed Go fans who played it like crazy during the summer of 2016 and haven't played since. Sun and Moon came out months after Go, and while it certainly got a big boost in sales thanks to the attention, it wasn't astronomically higher. Sold almost the same as XY which released years earlier.
As someone who likes Pokemon, Gen I, and Go (it's not a good game but I like it), it feels like it's completely missing the mark on why those three things are popular.
This I can agree with. There is no way this game deserves the 60$ price tag. Sidelining this with something like BotW or Odyssey makes it even more laughable.
Very excited for this. Original 151, Kanto in 3D...doesn't get much better than that.
Even better is that we STILL get 8th gen next year.
Even better is that we STILL get 8th gen next year.
You may have to give it a little more thought. You've got many things wrong
Nop
U're generalizing a whole system in a comment just because they catch system is equal.
The thing is that Pokemon has soft reboots every single gen, when new pokemon are introduced and the pokemon offering is constraint to offer a new experience and showcase a different group of pokemon that may not be the most popular ones. Focusing on a single gen when doing these soft resets is what can end up causing a fatigue, as you will end up experiencing the same pokemon time and time again during the main campaign. For instance, Shinx a good electric pokemon hasnt really been present during the main campaign since Platinum (present in post game content though).
If you mean as in pokemon should be deleted, yeah no thanks. Every pokemon might be the favourite of someone and if it were to happen, gen 1 should be the first with some pretty meh designs.
*Flash back to trying to catch Chansey in gen 1*
Fuck no.
At least in this game i won't have to worry about the little shit's 4% encounter rate.
Gonna bomb compared to Sun and Moon and only do 15 Million compared to 16 Million.
Game Freak is Doomed!
/s
I'm finding it silly why people keep downplaying this. It looks like an interesting remake that is easing relapsed or young players into Pokémon. It's not like the basic concept of battling isn't present people....
I think you greatly over estimate how many people won't buy this because of those changes
And you greatly under estate how many people will buy this because of those changes
That's without considering the switch factor
So what else will it have? Yeah pvp battles but, uhm, what else?
Most games seem like bad value when you put them against some of the best games ever made...
pvp, online trading, story mode, world map and battles.
It's still a full fledged Pokemon rpg just with catching Pokemon mechanics changed from how it is traditionally.
How is a full length GameFreak developed RPG not worth 60 when stuff like Kirby and Donkey Kong is?
This thread is a radical reminder that gamers are so incredibly out of touch with the real world.
"I think this sucks! = This thing is a complete failure!"
"I think this sucks! = This thing is a complete failure!"
I'm so happy, I've been a huge Pokemon fan since Gen 1 and the Gen 3 games were my favourites, I love that we're getting a new series alongside the main series.
If I can evolve Pikachu into Raichu I'll get that one. Otherwise I'll get Eevee.
If I can evolve Pikachu into Raichu I'll get that one. Otherwise I'll get Eevee.
Oh, there's more info there. I only watched the trailer in the OP. I'll check out the other stuff after work today.
Kinda how I feel too. I was eager to get any Pokemon on Switch this year and a weird casual focussed remake/new game set in Kanto is at the very least interesting. Then next year we get the big one and that'll be even better.
content wise is basically Pokemon Yellow remake, just cause it does not have ultra realisitc 4K texture graphics does not means "no way this game deserves the 60$ price tag".
None of what you posted is true dude lol.
Pokemon Go isn't a RPG. This is still a full Pokemon RPG. Battling trainers, Team Rocket, Gym Leaders, training a team, etc.
Absolutely love the look of this, so of course it didn't surprise me to come here and see loads of people shitting on it. It's the children who are wrong etc.
Would reviews even matter for something like Let's Go? I don't mean to be facetious, I just think they're in an enviable position of being able to sell this to a lot of people regardless of quality. Pokemon fans, including Let's Go detractors and people with more lukewarm reactions like myself still have a good chance of picking this up at some point. And Go fans, casual gamers, and new converts are more likely to be pulled in by hype and marketing than they are to be put off by gaming press reviews.
My boyfriend and I have been grimacing at the "151 only, Go mechanics" thing since the rumours first came up. When I mentioned it to him we laughed and he said "thanks, I hate it!" But he still just messaged me to say "but we're still getting it right? We can play co-op!" Similarly, I know a lot of 20somethings who played Go for a hot minute and who could probably be sold on a Switch if Nintendo gives a heavy marketing push in the next 6 months for both classic multiplayer experiences that people are nostalgic for (Mario Kart, Smash) as well as new casual games, lifestyle software etc.
Stuff like Let's Go is completely in line with all the marketing material emphasizing the console as a hybrid social gaming machine. It's not my kind of Pokemon game, but it is probably going to hit the right notes for a lot of people while still managing to ensnare some of the more stubborn among us anyway.
My boyfriend and I have been grimacing at the "151 only, Go mechanics" thing since the rumours first came up. When I mentioned it to him we laughed and he said "thanks, I hate it!" But he still just messaged me to say "but we're still getting it right? We can play co-op!" Similarly, I know a lot of 20somethings who played Go for a hot minute and who could probably be sold on a Switch if Nintendo gives a heavy marketing push in the next 6 months for both classic multiplayer experiences that people are nostalgic for (Mario Kart, Smash) as well as new casual games, lifestyle software etc.
Stuff like Let's Go is completely in line with all the marketing material emphasizing the console as a hybrid social gaming machine. It's not my kind of Pokemon game, but it is probably going to hit the right notes for a lot of people while still managing to ensnare some of the more stubborn among us anyway.
I'm glad people seem to be getting behind these games, but I think I'm just going to catch up on the 3DS games instead. These seem to be a little too much like Go and not enough like the core games for me.
I wonder if they will give Eevee an item similar to the Light Ball to give it a bump in stats. I was originally going to go with Eevee and then evolve it into Jolteon, but now I'm not sure since it doesn't evolve.
Crazy how spot on everything was. Hope you enjoy dressing up your Pikachu!
From the read I get "hardcore" Pokemon fans aren't happy about it in general. With that being said a back to basic approach is exactly what the series needs.
Also I don't think it's that easy.
Yeah, I have to agree with all of this. I'm actually feeling less and less confident it'll even sell as well as XY or SM. Anecdotally, when those games were revealed it felt big and it seemed like everyone was talking about them. Let's Go though still seems big, but in comparison to previous generations, it feels smaller to me. Like it's mostly the usual people talking about it and not everyone. That's just anecdotal though.
Yeah I would understand if this was a mainline game and they changed the formula this much to a more casual one. But it is not, so why the outrage? I for one am excited to see what more we can do in this game beyond what the trailer shows.
Family man here. 2 kids and other half. I can easily see all four of us going to the park with devices catching (we've done it in the past, and this would definitely rekindle this). At home, I'm sure my kids would love Pokeballs and really get into the role. Co-op is perfect, game looks like it could be able to handle an age split of 4 yo and 9 yo. They're about prime Pokemon age, so this looks great. They wouldn't play some sprawling RPG thing.
I've already got 4 joycons and steering wheels for Mario Kart, so I'm well on board for everything that goes along with this.
They aren't worth 60 either. Maybe DK if it wasn't a straight up port.
But Nintendo has always been greedy about stuff like this, not surprising at all (and it will sell shitloads anyway).
I'd be shocked if it honestly matters considering there's a limited number of trainer fights and they're the only way to gain experience.
Putting two entirely different stat systems into your RPG is very, very far from an easy fix.
I woke up this morning when I saw the games were announced and showed my girlfriend. We were both just watching thinking huh, this is interesting and then they showed co-op. She literally yelled out of excitement, I couldn't believe it. Local co-op is so big and a first in the series, it's amazing.
With all this complaining and pessimism and hot takes everywhere people forget that this just looks fun for alot of people and that's all I want.
Why? The games have always been super simple to play. Like, I don't actually understand this statement.
I really do love the concept this game has though, it seems like it's goig to be a more relaxing Pokémon experience where I don't have to worry about the comp side with IVs and shit being Uber needed.
All I need to know is how do you
Level Pokémon then if wild battles are not a thing anymore. It's obvious by the video there is an in game solution to doing this without being crutch by Pokemon Go.
All I need to know is how do you
Level Pokémon then if wild battles are not a thing anymore. It's obvious by the video there is an in game solution to doing this without being crutch by Pokemon Go.
Just for some context, the only mainline Pokemon game to have a MC score of lower than 80 is Emerald which got a 76.
Spinoffs range from 50-70, though these get reviewed very strangely.
PMD Super has way higher reviews than PMS Sky, even though most people would say Sky is the better game.
7 as an average would be above the norm for a spinoff, and just slightly lower than mainline games.
Is that really something one can call a Bomb in reviews ?
My guess is that it will review like a good Spinoff, meaning like an average Mainline title, and it will sell ~10 million copies, maybe more if they keep advertising it to Go players for multiple years and dont release Lets Go Jotho in 2020/2021.
Such sales would make it the best selling Spinoff that is not on Mobile, and an average selling Mainline game(more than sequel/third versions, less than new gen game.)