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Which will you throw in the PC Storage first?

  • Pikachu

    Votes: 590 16.2%
  • Eevee

    Votes: 571 15.7%
  • Your hopes and dreams

    Votes: 2,083 57.4%
  • Jmon

    Votes: 387 10.7%

  • Total voters
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What does "catch Pokemon like in Go" mean? I never played that game in lieu of an appropriate smartphone.

Basically that you don't "battle" the Pokémon and lower their HP before attempting a catch. You just go straight to throwing Pokeballs. The game also has a mechanic in which you "throw" Pokéballs rather than just pressing a button and having it happen automatically. It looks like you can either aim/throw with motion controls, or just aim with gyro and press a button to "throw".
 

Blunoise

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so since my thread got lock to continue it in here, ill post what I wrote:

So I know we've all had our expectations for what the Pokémon switch game was going to look like. And the rumors for Pokémon let's go was looking to be the real deal at the time.i know many people are disappointed in its first reveal, but you have to understand the bigger scheme behind it.

First I don't think this is the game Pokémon announce at e3 last year, that one is coming next year. Not to say this is a new mainline series just like how persona and shin Megami tensei are two series of the same company. But this game was created so that it can get more switch sold with a wider audience from lapse Pokémon players and newcomers and from those who did play Pokémon Go weather if they are still playing it or not, learning that a switch game can connect to the mobile app will get people interested again. This game does not have to appeal to the core audience, we got to stop thinking selfishly. The Pokémon company is well...a company first. They have to look into the future to keep the series alive when us old guards die out. The game will be a fun intermission untill gen 8 comes out, but let's still keep our expectations for that one, I don't think gamefreak will ever go the BOTW Route


Also here is an interview regarding online and stuff:
http://m.ign.com/articles/2018/05/3...rmed-for-nintendo-switch-releases-november-16
 

the7samurai

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This looks great. I have an on again/off again relationship with Pokemon and will for sure be getting this. I like the no random encounters and a following Pokemon being visible on the screen. I hope there's some meat to the co-op feature as well. It doesn't look perfect and I hope future titles retain some of these changes and go more ambitious but it looks fun.
 

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Everyone expecting a Pokemon game with BOTW standards for 2019.

I want a time machine, just to see the face of dissappointment next year.

If GF is continuing making Pokemon games, you won't see a major step forward in the series, specially if every new game sells like 20 million copies.

At the end, this is is all our fault, we allowed this by giving them our money...just like lootboxes.
 

Sesha

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Looks alright, but man what a step back for the franchise in terms of premise. Genwunners are holding this franchise back.

I'll guess I'll just have to consider this the remake that was to come after Sun and Moon, and that we'll get a proper sequel in a couple of years.
 

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Basically that you don't "battle" the Pokémon and lower their HP before attempting a catch. You just go straight to throwing Pokeballs. The game also has a mechanic in which you "throw" Pokéballs rather than just pressing a button and having it happen automatically. It looks like you can either aim/throw with motion controls, or just aim with gyro and press a button to "throw".
Oh I see. That sounds a bit lame tbh.
 

Ushojax

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I feel like some people in this thread need to accept that this game simply isn't for them. You'll get your proper core RPG in 2019, don't fret. If you don't like the look of Let's Go then don't buy it.

I think many fans have trouble accepting that they don't have to buy every game in a series, they are so used to buying any new entry without thinking. This game is for novice players and those who want to relive Pokémon Yellow. If you aren't one of them, then the follow-up to Sun/Moon is coming in 2019. You can put your $60 aside until then.

You aren't forced to buy this game just because it says Pokémon on the box.
 

PCPace

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I don't mind moving away from battling to catch, as long as there are still plenty of battles. JRPGs have been moving away from random encounters and grinding for a while.

Being able to see the Pokemon on the map and streamline catching what you want could be good.

You gotta have battling but if there's plenty of trainers that's enough for me. I always felt weird beating up a wild Poke who didn't ask for this.
 

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If Game Freak are working on two games concurrently it stands to reason that this particular game wouldn't have been that much of a bold step in terms of reinventing Kanto. Most likely, Let's Go is being worked on a small team doing a very play-by-play recreation with a unique new twist. They're making the best of materials they have and as much as people like to meme on the company's alleged "incompetence" (setting aside the fact that getting 700+ high-poly Pokémon models on the 3DS is no small feat by any stretch of the imagination) I don't see the logic in trying to hold that against them here, even if we're working off of a much smaller roster this time around. Core or not, this is clearly more of an economic title, and it seems to be serving it's purpose as intended.

With that having been said, I expect Gen 8 to look better given that it's likely being worked on by most of the key staff, but not necessarily by much. Making a Pokémon game ain't an easy feat given how much they reach diminishing returns on adding new creatures with each entry.
 

Gotdatmoney

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Error...What?

They would sell billions if they made a Pokemon game with current standards.

This is embarrasing, and dont't expect 8th gen game will be souch different from this game, why is Pokemon quality bar so low?

I don't understand.

If you want a recent example of low effort, just look at Secret of Maná remake, it's the same thing all over again.

Pokemon is a yearly franchise. You aren't getting a BOTW equivalent game.
 

Hikari

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It never made sense to me to beat up a Pokemon you try to befriend. It's quite literally animal abuse, even if we're talking about imaginary animals. Sure, there are battles, but those actually serve a purpose. You may disagree with me on the less engaging gameplay front, but that doesn't really mean much when it's an outdated concept that casual people are more willing to let go.

I uh. what?????
 

Xarius

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Haven't really kept up with everything, but do we know how much of an emphasis there is on battles and gyms, etc.? Or is the main focus just catching pokemon?
 

Galava

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Everyone expecting a Pokemon game with BOTW standards for 2019.

I want a time machine, just to see the face of dissappointment next year.

If GF is continuing making Pokemon games, you won't see a major step forward in the series, specially if every new game sells like 20 million copies.

At the end, this is is all our fault, we allow this with or money...just like lootboxes.
Except this is actually a valid and non-toxic direction they are taking with Pokémon.
Remember that this is a kid's franchise, so it's natural that some things are not going to meet our expactations as adults (I also don't like some things)

Anyone is free to not like it, but comparing a trailer with lootboxes...come on.

Though I agree with the 2019 game not being what people are expecting.
 

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I disagree, there's an obvious tone coming on in this thread that people can't be disappointed since "it's not made for them" and the people who don't like this are "whining"
The "it's not made for you" argument only exists to shut down any criticism which is what a portion of this thread is definitely trying to do. It's like we're in an OT or something.
 

Jebusman

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I disagree, there's an obvious tone coming on in this thread that people can't be disappointed since "it's not made for them" and the people who don't like this are "whining"

I mean if I walked into a COD thread and complained that it wasn't a racing game, I would rightfully be called out for whining about something unreasonable.

TPC decided to make a Go-like experience for consoles, likely to bridge the gap between the typical ultra-casual GO player and the more hardcore traditional fans, bringing them into the console ecosystem and expose them to a few of the elements of the more traditional pokemon experience. It takes all of 10 seconds to figure this out, especially when they also announced that a more traditional game would be coming in 2019.

But that's not enough for traditional fans, EVERY game has to cater to them, including this one. And then shit on and dismiss those who prefer this compared to the more traditional style, as if they're not worthy enough to have a pokemon game made for them.
 

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But this looks like it's the most fun Pokemon has been in a long time. Pokemon was best when it was focused on being social.

This. I know that my wife and son will love this. This is easy to play even when you are not a gamer, you can share the fun, this ties to nostalgia of us 30 yo parents with young kids.

This is pandering to US. This has been made for US. The people who were there when Pokemon started. Us OG Pokemon players, with the fucking CARDS. Us who saw the first episodes of Pokemon, who to this day LOVE the original Pokemons. People who loved the simplicity of the original Pokemon.



This is for people like my wife who absolutely detests those who say that they are gamers. The fucking nitwits who in this very topic are downright disrespectful. You bring shame to us all who like to play games. You are a disgrace.

Ya'll whiny bastards making be damn angry.
 

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Oh I see. That sounds a bit lame tbh.

I certainly agree! Though to be fair, it was always a bit unsettling to think of the narrative behind Pokémon. Hunt down wild animals and have your pet beat them into submission before you catch them. This seems a bit more humane! Though I'd be surprised if they keep that mechanic going forward.
 

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The goal in life is to have someone look at you like the female trainer looks at her Eevee
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Am I the only one that tinks that the Pokémon screenshot looks better visually than the Zelda, Mario, Kirby and Xenoblade screenshots?

I wouldn't say technically better by any means, but it looks really consistent probably because the camera is aimed down so you cant see the draw distance (and xenoblades aliasing is pretty bad).
The player models look a bit weird, but I do prefer the chibi style XY had to SM so its like a weird middleground.
 

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Been thinking, maybe the "core RPG" for 2019 will deviate as much from the traditional formula but in other directions so that we will have two alternative types of pokemon games alternating every couple of years.

I'd guess free roaming 3rd person. Story and stats focus etc.
 

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So, without Wild Battles. The remaining reasonable way to grind should be trainer battles, so it shouldn't be illogical to conclude that rematches will be a core part of these games, right?

I'm sure there are other ways to grind, but I can't see battles stopping the main grinding method.

I'm also looking forward to see how catching will progress to the game. It won't just be a matter of throwing balls and timing, I'm sure some degree of strategy will be required.
 

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I didn't no true scotsman anything, I never said you can't like these games and older games.

Pretending like these games aren't being developed for people who don't like the series in mind is silly.
These games are being developed for a broader audience. They aren't being developed for people who don't like the core premise of the franchise.
 
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Except that wasn't an unreasonable thing to think. Every remake we've had managed to expand the Dex to include Pokemon in the later Generations. For GF to be that dumb and lock the Dex to just the original 151 is such a stupid idea. So no dark types (or rather a very limited lineup if we are confirmed to get Alolan forms), no later Gen pre evolutions and evolutions to existing lines on the Kanto Dex, working with shitty Pokemon distribution all because they limited themselves to the original 150 (people who think random encounter Zubats were annoying are going to get sobered when they see overworld encounters of nothing but Geodudes and Zubats).

All this served to show is that GF didn't learn from the mistakes of FRLG. Or rather, they took massive steps backwards from HGSS and ORAS.

Your problem is that you're not the target audience of this game. No one on this forum is, actually, though obviously some diehard fans will get it anyway. This is aimed at little kids to get them into Pokemon on Switch after they've been playing on iPhone and iPad. Obviously no adult is going to drop $400 to play Pokemon Go on the TV, but a little kid wouldn't be smart enough to realize how awful that is.
 

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Haven't really kept up with everything, but do we know how much of an emphasis there is on battles and gyms, etc.? Or is the main focus just catching pokemon?
The implication seems to be everything regarding battles/gyms is the exact same way it always was. The only major difference is there's no random battles or encounters, and most likely some of the trainer battles will be balanced accordingly because of it.
 

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Also, I almost forgot...

Since Pokémon are now visible on the overworld, how does getting new Pokémon to spawn work. Like, say you're in Mt. Moon, and you don't see a Clefairy, and you want one. How do you get one to show up? Will the Pokémon just fade away over time and be replaced with different ones if you just leave them alone? Will you have to leave the room entirely and come back in for a different set to spawn?

And similarly, what happens while you're trying to capture a Pokémon? That is, once you go back to the overworld from "capture mode," whether you're succesful or not, will the same Pokémon still be there? Does trying to catch a Pokémon itself reset which Pokémon are available in the room, or is everything otherwise just the way you left it? And if the latter, what happens when you catch everything in a given room? Will new stuff show up on its own if you just sit and wait, or do you have to leave the room and come back in?

Going to be very interesting to see how that all works and it's the answers to those kind of questions that made me nervous about the idea of having Pokémon on the oveworld as opposed to random encounters. I hope they found a way of making it work well enough, but I would be lying if I wasn't nervous about what the exact implementation of that actually ends up being.
 

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The "it's not made for you" argument only exists to shut down any criticism which is what a portion of this thread is definitely trying to do. It's like we're in an OT or something.

The "it's not made for you" argument is basically coming from Game Freak, hence why they also announced another game that is more familiar to hardcore fans for 2019.
 

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This has been made for US. The people who were there when Pokemon started. Us OG Pokemon players, with the fucking CARDS. Us who saw the first episodes of Pokemon, who to this day LOVE the original Pokemons.
I have never been more tempted to just post a wojack in response.
 

Arkanim94

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Everyone expecting a Pokemon game with BOTW standards for 2019.

I want a time machine, just to see the face of dissappointment next year.

If GF is continuing making Pokemon games, you won't see a major step forward in the series, specially if every new game sells like 20 million copies.

At the end, this is is all our fault, we allowed this by giving them our money...just like lootboxes.
holy shit the reaching here.
 
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Looks alright, but man what a step back for the franchise in terms of premise. Genwunners are holding this franchise back.

I'll guess I'll just have to consider this the remake that was to come after Sun and Moon, and that we'll get a proper sequel in a couple of years.
We are getting a mainline core game next year. So yes this is a sort of Go spinoff whereas next year we will have (hopefully) Gen 8.
 

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Gen 8 was always going to be 2019. My only issue with this game is that the Evolutions and pre Evolutions of Kanto Pokemon should at least have been included. Those Pokemon exist and to act like they don't is a slap in the face. There would only be 32 Pokemon to add to the Pokedex. Hopefully this mean no Kanto Pokemon in Gen 8 (lol yeah right).