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Which will you throw in the PC Storage first?

  • Pikachu

    Votes: 590 16.2%
  • Eevee

    Votes: 571 15.7%
  • Your hopes and dreams

    Votes: 2,083 57.4%
  • Jmon

    Votes: 387 10.7%

  • Total voters
    3,631

QisTopTier

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,720
I didn't no true scotsman anything, I never said you can't like these games and older games.

Pretending like these games aren't being developed for people who don't like the series in mind is silly.
It's a trojan horse my first pokemon to bait go players and lapsed fans into a switch and the main game next year
 

KRBM

Banned
Jan 9, 2018
684
They should've called it "Pokemon Stay" instead of "Pokemon Let's Go".
  • Stay indoors
  • Stay in Kanto
  • Stay unconnected to strangers
  • Stay with our previous game please
Pokemon Stay
 

WrenchNinja

Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,746
Canada
These games are being developed for a broader audience. They aren't being developed for people who don't like the core premise of the franchise.
I don't know, it sure seems like that is part of their intentions, otherwise they wouldn't have cut wild battles and made capturing and battling completely seperate things like Go. We are saying the same thing, you're just saying it nicer than I am.
 

Sou Da

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
16,738
You don't think random battles are an outdated concept?
That doesn't have anything to do the really bad point you attempted to make and random battles =/= a lack of being able to fight wild Pokemon.

Though to be fair I don't really get how you do rarity with Pokemon exclusively on the overworld. Seems like you would have to do both.
 

Deleted member 249

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
28,828
Everyone expecting a Pokemon game with BOTW standards for 2019.

I want a time machine, just to see the face of dissappointment next year.

If GF is continuing making Pokemon games, you won't see a major step forward in the series, specially if every new game sells like 20 million copies.

At the end, this is is all our fault, we allowed this by giving them our money...just like lootboxes.
Lmao
 

Geg

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,555
This thread

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Oct 26, 2017
2,430
So, without Wild Battles. The remaining reasonable way to grind should be trainer battles, so it shouldn't be illogical to conclude that rematches will be a core part of these games, right?

I'm sure there are other ways to grind, but I can't see battles stopping the main grinding method.

I'm also looking forward to see how catching will progress to the game. It won't just be a matter of throwing balls and timing, I'm sure some degree of strategy will be required.

Well the VS Seeker was a thing in FRLG, I reckon they might just bring it back.
 

Gotdatmoney

Member
Oct 28, 2017
14,503
Other yearly franchises don't look nearly this weak, so what does this even mean.

BOTW equivalent pokemon with 800+ monsters to model, hundreds of attacks and full blown current gen assets is a pipe dream for this franchise. Nintendo isn't going to multiply their costs 4x (probably closer to 10) for no appreciable gain in sales. Lets be real.

Pokemon isn't a franchise just on the brink of selling 50m units. Nothing would justify the cost increase.
 

byDoS

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,192
Guys, it's ok to have opinions about things. You're entitled to it.

What's not ok is to be dismissive about people who think differently than you.

There are people here being extremely obnoxious over an OPTION that TPC will put on the market.
Your product will still come next year, and nobody is being private of your personal preferences.
 

Fosko

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,955
Game Freak said during the Q & A that it wasn't and that the 2019 game has been in development for longer than the Switch has been on the market. (Probably around 2016)
Is there a link to that?

I don't get why people here try to say this game is in the same category as the classic mainline series.
 

JakeNoseIt

Catch My Drift
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
4,537
To the people that insist on using the touch screen over the gyro in handheld mode: this is a bad answer, but I think it's because there's no vertical movement involved in the throwing mechanics. Everything from the conference last night makes it look like you're only options are to throw directly forward or anywhere left and right. I imagine it would be hard to have more precise throwing than that with the joycon, and I think they probably don't want to.

Why not slide the pokeball in the direction you want to throw it in? Who knows. Maybe they want it to be less noticeable that you have less control than in the GO.
 

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User requested account closure
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Oct 30, 2017
488
To make Origins, they had to stop releasing yearly ACs. CoD is the same game every year. FIFA is the same game every year. Don't say they innovate, 'cause they don't.

The don't need to innovate, they need to create a game that doesn't look like a PS1 game emulated in HD.

It's embarrasing, i don't understand why the technical bar of the franchise is so damn low, and just to clarify, i don't expect an open world or a reboot, just look at Monster Hunter World compared to Generations, that's the kind of leap i want and the core games need.
 

Droidian

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Dec 28, 2017
2,391
As of now I'm out on this game. I'm pretty sure come November I'll be pulled into the hype train and reconsider. It's just not the game I was looking for. Especially when I already own Pokemon Blue on the DS. Pokemon Go catching style isn't the kind of console Pokemon I was hoping for.
That and the multiplayer, at least they're getting somewhere.
 

Firemind

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,550
That doesn't have anything to do the really bad point you attempted to make and random battles =/= a lack of being able to fight wild Pokemon.

Though to be fair I don't really get how you do rarity with Pokemon exclusively on the overworld. Seems like you would have to do both.
They're called random battles for a reason. Fighting your allies is dumb from a logical perspective. So the Pokemon you accidentally faint, you have to leave behind because you can't catch them? It's dumb.
 

--R

Being sued right now, please help me find a lawyer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,808
Don't mislead people. This is the core game they were talking about last year. Maybe it's difficult to accept it, but it is what it is.

In yesterday's Q&A they said the game presented on E3 is the one that releases next year. You're the one misleading people with that.
 

Beje

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,759
It's a trojan horse my first pokemon to bait go players and lapsed fans into a switch and the main game next year

But the point is... can they? I don't see many people attracted by this premise sticking around for long (not even for another "Let's Go XXXXXX" title) after A-mashing and steamrolling through the story mode in this game in 10 hours and flicking their wrist to capture the 300th Zubat before realising there's no meat at all on it.
 

mangopositive

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
2,439
I guess it's times like these that I can be relieved, as a 41 year old gamer, that I was too old for Pokémon when it first came out in 1996.
 

NotLiquid

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
34,788
Don't mislead people. This is the core game they were talking about last year. Maybe it's difficult to accept it, but it is what it is.
They've been working on Gen 8 since Sun/Moon released.

It's possible they might've referred to both games, but they weren't just referring to Let's Go.
 

Alexhex

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,881
Canada
Dang, so if the trainers are all super weak and have less pokemon than usual, that more than anything is a pretty big deterrent for me. The games are easy now but if you turn off exp. share and the switch function they can still be a comfortable challenge. If I'm able to do all that and still sleep through it because the battles are easy I'll be hella bummed
 

Jonneh

Good Vibes Gaming
Verified
Oct 24, 2017
4,538
UK
Don't mislead people. This is the core game they were talking about last year. Maybe it's difficult to accept it, but it is what it is.
I don't think it really matters what game they were talking about last year, there's a core RPG launching in 2019 which hits the initial 2018/2019 release window.
 

mckinleytl

Member
Jan 10, 2018
68
Austin, Tx
Looks great, sure it's not a "true core game" but it is a fully realized Pokemon game, in HD, on a main console. Remember folks the main tagline of Pokemon has always been "Gotta catch 'em all" not gotta, fight 'em all.
 

Deleted member 283

User requested account closure
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Oct 25, 2017
3,288
You don't think random battles are an outdated concept?
Not at all, not in Pokémon's case anyway. I love the surprise aspect, never knowing what I'll find, and not only not knowing what specific Pokémon I'm about to (or not about to) find, but also never knowing if it's Shiny or not on top of that.

Just seeing them all visible on the overworld instead takes away a lot of that "surprise" aspect for me, and along with it, a lot of my personal fun and immersion. Just isn't the same, always just being "what you see is what you get" instead, y'know? The surprise aspect is a lot of what makes finding and trying to catch Pokémon, well, Pokémon for me.

And when I'm tired of searching for stuff and just don't want to get into any random battles period? Well, that's what Repels are there for. The main games just have it all for me.

And if I end up playing these games, I know that at least personally, I'll end up missing that particular aspect of them and even if it's more "realistic" or whatever to see Pokémon on the overworld, losing that surprise aspect will really hurt it, at least for me.

'Cause okay, if that still doesn't make sense. Consider random encounters like opening presents or something (EDIT: ooh, or even better, like opening a pack of trading cards or something like that, and the feeling you have before you open it, wondering what you could get). Each time, you never know just what it is exactly you're going to find. Seeing them on the overworld instead, is just like, your presents never get wrapped and you're just told, and you never get to actually enjoy that for yourself y'know, if that makes any sense at all.

It, like only goes for Pokémon for me, and it doesn't really make sense for any other RPG out there. But at least in Pokémon's case, random battles are great, and I'll definitely miss them here.
 

Brickhunt

Member
Feb 4, 2018
1,000
Brazil
Seriously, the game was just announced yesterday and more details are yet to come, but people are already jumping at many conclusions: Mandatory motion, weakened challenges, cakewalk catching. Seriously, relax.

My standard is actually liking the premise of the series, battling and catching. When you have people celebrating the lack of wild battles, where both were intertwined, it makes me wonder about things.
We still have battles, just not not in the wild. Something is sure to change in order to compensate the lack of battling with wild Pokémon. And just because catching is now different from battling, doesn't mean that catching won't have fun or some degree of strategy.
 

Ushojax

Member
Oct 30, 2017
5,932
The don't need todo innovate, they need to create a game that doesn't look like a PS1 game emulated in HD.

It's embarrasing, i don't understand why the technical bar of the franchise is so damn low, and just to clarify, i don't expect an open world or a reboot, just look at Monster Hunter World compared to Generations, that's the kind of leap i want and the core games need.

Game Freak are a relatively small developer who were still working on GBA level hardware when the rest of the world was in full swing with HD development. You have to be realistic about their capabilities.

Their first game with full 3D graphics came out less than 5 years ago.
 

QisTopTier

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,720
But the point is... can they? I don't see many people attracted by this premise sticking around for long (not even for another "Let's Go XXXXXX" title) after A-mashing and steamrolling through the story mode in this game in 10 hours and flicking their wrist to capture the 300th Zubat before realising there's no meat at all on it.
The super casual base doesn't care about the games beyond this