• Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
  • We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.

Which will you throw in the PC Storage first?

  • Pikachu

    Votes: 590 16.2%
  • Eevee

    Votes: 571 15.7%
  • Your hopes and dreams

    Votes: 2,083 57.4%
  • Jmon

    Votes: 387 10.7%

  • Total voters
    3,631

BGBW

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,281
Wild battles were hardly bloat. Tall grass was already a solution to the random battles problem - you could often just walk around it to avoid them is you so wished.
 

Fritz

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,720
It's just my own feelings and desires but don't you worry I don't have magical powers so it's not gonna happen just because I want it to, and yes it is selfish that's because it's indeed my own desire and hopes, is it not nice? Yes it is not and I said as much. So what's your point?

I'm not supposed to talk about it? Does it offend you to have people not being hypocrite and express their inner feelings, opinions and disappointment? We are in a forum people have different opinions, you don't like mine and it's OK, it doesn't mean people should insults each others for their own worries, concerns and hope just because they disagree.

As an exemple, some people are OK and support lootboxes and micro transactions and some don't and hope the trends stop and games with it to bomb, it's two side with different opinions and hopes, to each their own and to each their reasons, I outlined mine and that's that.

Your negative feelings aren't opinions and it's not valuable for anyone to bring that into a discussion.

There is a whole thread to fuss about the core installment of 2019. Why don't you go there and have fun discussing a game you can actually look forward too?
 

Omegamon

Alt Account
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,884
Wild battles were hardly bloat. Tall grass was already a solution to the random battles problem - you could often just walk around it to avoid them is you so wished.
Or use repel or just run from battles. If you accidently bump into a Pokémon in Let's Go and don't wanna catch it, you still have to run from it.
 

Livia

Banned
Feb 9, 2018
814
Bergen
This is genius of Nintendo and will probably sell millions of copies. Im not big on Pokemon so maybe thats why I think this game looks good lol
 

Dark Cloud

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
61,087
Yessssss!!!! I can't wait and it's going to sell like crazy!!!
Yeah it's going to sell crazy. I'm not even mad lol. It looks like I'm going to enjoy this. Oh boy you can only catch Pokémon and not battle them. Doesn't really bother me. They wanted to use Pokémon Go mechanics.

A year from then I know I'll have a core Pokémon game that they got another year of development time for.
 

JakeNoseIt

Catch My Drift
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
4,536
In the typical pokemon game, how often do wild encounters end with you catching the pokemon? Not that often, in the grand scheme of things, but it seems like it'll definitely be less than how many pokemon you catch in these Let's Go games. Given no other options to dispatch the wild pokemon, we are going to be catching a lot of them, right?

They even made that comment about having PC boxes in your bag now. Does this point to being able to turn excess Pokemon into candy like in GO? Or is there some feature or mechanic we don't know about relating to training your Pokemon to account for this?
 

zoukka

Game Developer
Verified
Oct 28, 2017
2,361
Well, I still strongly believe that the Go crowd and the lapsed players that haven't touched a Pokémon game since 20 years ago deserve something much better than this uninspired cash grab, especially if they want them to stick around for whatever comes in 2019.

I swear that constantly bending to the whims and demands of people that don't even give a fuck about Pokémon and just had a tangential relationship with the franchise back when it was impossible to avoid it because it was plastered everywhere is what's going to render it eventually irrelevant.

The existence and popularity of Go absolutely destroys your theory. I know it's just anecdotal, but several of my colleagues who haven't played Pokemon games in decades are excited about Let's go and talking about how they will play it with their children/partners.

Nintendo is surgically accurate with Let's Go.
 

sKell-10

Member
Oct 28, 2017
29
Canada
I need this yesterday. But it sounds like the battling system might be taking a back seat to Pokemon GOs catching system this time? Hopefully I'm just interpreting it incorrectly.
 

Include

Member
Oct 25, 2017
836
Your negative feelings aren't opinions and it's not valuable for anyone to bring that into a discussion.

There is a whole thread to fuss about the core installment of 2019. Why don't you go there and have fun discussing a game you can actually look forward too?

This is not Pokémon Pikachu and Eevee OT, it is a news topic and I reacted to it like everyone else who liked or disliked but some posters entered argument and I responded about the game and attitude regarding it. I agree we should keep this topic about the news not about people behavior.

If you see my posting so far as shiposting then go ahead and report, if you don't want to see my posting, use the ignore feature.

Anyhow, let's get back to the news already.
 

Beje

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,755
The existence and popularity of Go absolutely destroys your theory. I know it's just anecdotal, but several of my colleagues who haven't played Pokemon games in decades are excited about Let's go and talking about how they will play it with their children/partners.

Nintendo is surgically accurate with Let's Go.

Still doesn't answer the concerns of what are they going to do in 2019 with all the people that bought into a nostalgia-fueled ride mixed with some arm flailing and Charizard riding if they're not eased, even if just slightly, into the fact that there are more mechanics to Pokémon beyond the rock-paper-scissors types and that they should "let it go" because there's more life beyond #151-Mew

Yes, this game is going to have very good sales. Then what? How are you going to convince people that there are baby Pikachus if you purposely ommited them and cut them off? How are you going to tell people that there are wild battles and can no longer just flick their wrist until the game gives you a jingle and a prize?
 
Last edited:

iamsgod

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
961
FF15 sold millions and millions yet didn't sastify many people.

These games have massive hype, hence Nintendo having huge stocks ready (see France).
They will sell millions no matter what.
it will sell millions for sure, it's just a bit hard for me to see it selling >10 mil if it's so controversial. But I'm not good at predicting sales, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

Dark Cloud

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
61,087
it will sell millions for sure, it's just a bit hard for me to see it selling >10 mil if it's so controversial. But I'm not good at predicting sales, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Where is it controversial? Y'all need to stop thinking these little communities around the internet are the majority. It's a small group.
 

Ereineon

Member
Nov 8, 2017
1,214
my current problem with the game is that its basically super self-contained.
according to all the data we have so far, its a "remake/retake" from yellow (with all the simplificationes etc...) but breaking all the conventions that we have on remakes so far, generations set on stone (no evolutions even), no crosstrading , no breeding. it feels like playing the red/blue/yellow version on the 3DS eShop, but at least with those you knew upfront all those limitations.
Here is like "its a remake but no"

Its true that the change from ramdom wild battle to spawning pokemon is not too big or bad, yes, i would question the neccesity of removing completly battling wild pokemon even for this title. But even that could work in a GO-hybrid scenario... introducing go players to proper pokemon battles first and as a bridge from the mechanics they know with the CP and actual battles...

So far even the conectivity with GO wich COULD be the mayor attractive from the game is still unclear.
we know that we can bring GO pokemon to Lets go, but is unlikely that the opposite is true, so go players are losing the possible incentive of using LetsGO to train some pokemon without wasting so much stardust/candies on the app. And even so, as is limited to only first generation (that we know, unles we have unlikely patchs), go players will have plenty of pokemon with no conection whatsoever with these titles.

the best of these titles is that they are able to test things and get in touch with the system while working on the proper title for 1019. at least they dont have to waste much time with the maps XD
 

Deleted member 5764

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,574
In the typical pokemon game, how often do wild encounters end with you catching the pokemon? Not that often, in the grand scheme of things, but it seems like it'll definitely be less than how many pokemon you catch in these Let's Go games. Given no other options to dispatch the wild pokemon, we are going to be catching a lot of them, right?

They even made that comment about having PC boxes in your bag now. Does this point to being able to turn excess Pokemon into candy like in GO? Or is there some feature or mechanic we don't know about relating to training your Pokemon to account for this?

They confirmed that the candy system is not in Let's Go.
 

zoukka

Game Developer
Verified
Oct 28, 2017
2,361
Still doesn't answer the concerns of what are they going to do in 2019 with all the people that bought into a nostalgia-fueled ride mixed with some arm flailing and Charizard riding if they're not eased, even if just slightly, into the fact that there are more mechanics to Pokémon beyond the rock-paper-scissors types and that they should "let it go" because there's more life beyond #151-Mew

What concerns? Every Let's Go player comes from either the core RPG background or from Go background. It's all pure profit and if any Go adopters convert to the Core side it's even bigger win for GF. They can literally lose nothing with this strategy.
 

Sander VF

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
26,019
Tbilisi, Georgia
Still doesn't answer the concerns of what are they going to do in 2019 with all the people that bought into a nostalgia-fueled ride mixed with some arm flailing and Charizard riding if they're not eased, even if just slightly, into the fact that there are more mechanics to Pokémon beyond the rock-paper-scissors types and that they should "let it go" because there's more life beyond #151-Mew
The bolded part confuses me.

I'm starting to feel as if some people can't seperate the lapsed player excited over Gen 1 on Facebook from some "genwunner" nerd adversary that argued with them in fanboy war on an internet forum.
 

Deleted member 32018

User requested account closure
Banned
Nov 8, 2017
7,628
What concerns? Every Let's Go player comes from either the core RPG background or from Go background. It's all pure profit and if any Go adopters convert to the Core side it's even bigger win for GF. They can literally lose nothing with this strategy.

I think people are concerned that gameplay decisions that were made for Let's Go will find their way into the 2019 game. Which is completely absurd in my opinion as Game Freak have announced the 2019 game for a reason saying it is a traditional game to ease the fears of hardcore fans.
 

Fritz

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,720
Still doesn't answer the concerns of what are they going to do in 2019 with all the people that bought into a nostalgia-fueled ride mixed with some arm flailing and Charizard riding if they're not eased, even if just slightly, into the fact that there are more mechanics to Pokémon beyond the rock-paper-scissors types and that they should "let it go" because there's more life beyond #151-Mew

Yes, this game is going to have very good sales. Then what? How are you going to convince people that there are baby Pikachus if you purposely ommited them and cut them off? How are you going to tell people that there are wild battles and can no longer just flick their wrist until the game gives you a jingle and a prize?


First of all: Maybe the game will be more than bait? Maybe it will even be fun?


Then - regarding your second point - maybe other people aren't as opposed to changes as you are?

It's not rocket science: Suffcient marketing and people will buy it - even more so when they like Go/Lets Go. The games have enough tutorials to ease everyone in.
 

Beje

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,755
The bolded part confuses me.

I'm starting to feel as if some people can't seperate the lapsed player excited over Gen 1 on Facebook from some "genwunner" nerd adversary that argued with them in fanboy war on an internet forum.

Why else would they purposely cut off all the evolutions and babies, as well as all the means to get them (no breeding, no eggs, no necessary evolve items) if it was not to cater to people allergic to #152 and beyond? What purpose does it bring not letting you evolve your Golbat into Crobat when it's max happiness, or trade your Onyx with Metal Coat to get Steelix and pretend that they don't even exist even though people playing Pokémon Go already know about them?
 

iamsgod

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
961
You said you can't see it selling over 10 million. All of a sudden Pokémon is about to sell millions of copies less than it usually does?
If it don't satisfy both camp? Probably. Tho like I said, I'm not good at predicting sales.
I just find it funny someone can say it won't satisfy both camp, but then say it'll say sell like regular sales
 

Deleted member 32018

User requested account closure
Banned
Nov 8, 2017
7,628
Why else would they purposely cut off all the evolutions and babies, as well as all the means to get them (no breeding, no eggs, no necessary evolve items) if it was not to cater to people allergic to #152 and beyond?

Time and resources. Now that we know there is Gen 8 next year this game probably didn't have a huge amount of people working on it. I doubt nostalgia was the only reason for them only having Gen 1 Pokemon.
 

Sander VF

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
26,019
Tbilisi, Georgia
Why else would they purposely cut off all the evolutions and babies, as well as all the means to get them (no breeding, no eggs, no necessary evolve items) if it was not to cater to people allergic to #152 and beyond? What purpose does it bring not letting you evolve your Golbat into Crobat when it's max happiness, or trade your Onyx with Metal Coat to get Steelix and pretend that they don't even exist even though people playing Pokémon Go already know about them?
Like I really don't believe some casual Pokemon Go player Joe Perkinson reacting to this game on Facebook or whatever would give remotest of shits about some obscure fanboy wars going on message boards or be involved in shitposts about Garbador.

It's Gen 1 because of nostalgia. It's only 151 because it's a straight casualized remake of Yellow to the point where environments are nearly 1 to 1.
 
Last edited:

Blunoise

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,885
Atlanta, GA
It's a shame that iam still waking up to people being upset that this isn't the Pokémon game they wanted, well that's because that Pokémon game isnt even out untill 2019. Pokemon let's go is just a bonus game for everyone to play until than. I guess they shouldn't have made a this and made us created more Pokémon rumor threads for a full year instead.
 

DrROBschiz

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,494
my current problem with the game is that its basically super self-contained.
according to all the data we have so far, its a "remake/retake" from yellow (with all the simplificationes etc...) but breaking all the conventions that we have on remakes so far, generations set on stone (no evolutions even), no crosstrading , no breeding. it feels like playing the red/blue/yellow version on the 3DS eShop, but at least with those you knew upfront all those limitations.
Here is like "its a remake but no"

Its true that the change from ramdom wild battle to spawning pokemon is not too big or bad, yes, i would question the neccesity of removing completly battling wild pokemon even for this title. But even that could work in a GO-hybrid scenario... introducing go players to proper pokemon battles first and as a bridge from the mechanics they know with the CP and actual battles...

So far even the conectivity with GO wich COULD be the mayor attractive from the game is still unclear.
we know that we can bring GO pokemon to Lets go, but is unlikely that the opposite is true, so go players are losing the possible incentive of using LetsGO to train some pokemon without wasting so much stardust/candies on the app. And even so, as is limited to only first generation (that we know, unles we have unlikely patchs), go players will have plenty of pokemon with no conection whatsoever with these titles.

the best of these titles is that they are able to test things and get in touch with the system while working on the proper title for 1019. at least they dont have to waste much time with the maps XD

I know its been said but Lets Go is basically the game I wish Pokemon GO was

The virtue of having the ACTUAL full battle system alone is a plus

This game feels very much like the next stepping stone to take players from Casual >> Hybrid >. Hardcore player
 

:-)

Member
May 22, 2018
2
At first i was disappointed, that there is no actual fighting while encountering pokemons, but now i think its the way to go. Because somehow its actually really weird that players need to beat the shit out of a pokemons so that they follow them. Consequently the bond between them looks more like a master->slave connection and not like a trainer<->"pet" connection. I mean ask yourself, do you create a real bond with a pet, trough beating or affection? In which case a pet would truthfully fight for you? I just hope that this "new" mechanic of capturing pokemons is going to be challenging, but i am pretty sure that the pokemon game designers already have this in mind.

:-)
 

Possum Armada

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,630
Greenville, SC
I know its been said but Lets Go is basically the game I wish Pokemon GO was

The virtue of having the ACTUAL full battle system alone is a plus

This game feels very much like the next stepping stone to take players from Casual >> Hybrid >. Hardcore player

I am the person you are speculating about. I tried twice over the last decade to get into Pokemon but found the games to be overly dense, a bit boring, and incredibly clunky.

I put a ton of time into Pokemon Go but found it to be lacking in narrative or things to do.

This game could be the perfect mix of both and am damn excited to try it.

Sorry hardcore fans are upset and all, but not every game has to be the same mainline style.
 

Kiraly

Member
Oct 30, 2017
2,848
It's a shame that iam still waking up to people being upset that this isn't the Pokémon game they wanted, well that's because that Pokémon game isnt even out untill 2019. Pokemon let's go is just a bonus game for everyone to play until than. I guess they shouldn't have made a this and made us created more Pokémon rumor threads for a full year instead.

What is this attitude of 'oh be happy GF made a game'. They still ask 60 dollars for it. Are we not allowed to discuss and criticize the game?
 

Mameshiba

Member
Oct 28, 2017
192
Funnily enough as a competitive Pokemon player who got back into Pokemon Go 2 weeks ago, I find capturing Pokemon a lot harder there than the traditional way lol. In the other games I can False Swipe, status, then spam balls.

In go, I have to actually time my throw right, adjust for the mons size and movement behavior, and also try to curve the ball (which I suck ass at lol). Pokemon Go may have a more "casual" way of catching mons, but I don't think that actually makes it easier!

I have caught 5051 Pokemon in Go and catching is easily the most annoying part of the game for me. It is mostly waiting until the circle is small enough and the Pokemon isn't in one of those move animations. Imo they got the difficulty curve of catching Pokemon completely wrong in Go, regular Pokemon take longer to catch compared to the mainline games whereas rare Pokemon, especially legendaries, are much easier.

The existence and popularity of Go absolutely destroys your theory. I know it's just anecdotal, but several of my colleagues who haven't played Pokemon games in decades are excited about Let's go and talking about how they will play it with their children/partners.

Nintendo is surgically accurate with Let's Go.

I am curious, have you asked them what stopped them from buying one of the 3ds games? Or what specifically excites them about the new games?
 

Dark Cloud

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
61,087
We need to discuss capturing Pokémon techniques. I haven't played Pokémon Go in so long so I forgot how the circle closing in works and it looks like it has different colors.