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The PC Builders Thread (aka I need a new PC)
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That's why I mean "shitty" heh. Good quality, well tuned TN panel can look great but these are also not cheap. High refresh rate panels are still within the premium product category and it isn't going to change very soon.
gigabit ethernet switch to connect to your powerline via ethernet, and see if you can set your old router to 'access point' and plug that in via ethernet too.
Finally have everything I need: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vQs34q
Guess I'll start building on the weekend. Don't think I missed anything?
It'll be hooked up to my TV for 4K(ish) gaming. Will be upgrading to the next Nvidia line around Christmas I think. Really didn't wanna wait anymore and have to fight for the new cards this summer.
Guess I'll start building on the weekend. Don't think I missed anything?
It'll be hooked up to my TV for 4K(ish) gaming. Will be upgrading to the next Nvidia line around Christmas I think. Really didn't wanna wait anymore and have to fight for the new cards this summer.
Nice build, let me know how the CPU cooler fits with your build.
I would've gone with a 2 TB HD but it's still good. Don't forget to share the finished build.
Also FYI to anyone who gets Fry's promotional emails. They still have the GTX 1070 listed wrong @ $329 so you can still get one today.
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The gtx 1050 is a great videocard for a 4k htpc build if you plan to watch videos and surf the web but don't need to game at 4k. It doesn't use much power or produce much heat, has hdmi 2.0, and generally doesn't make much noise (there are different coolers available of course).
There's also a new 3GB 1050 that's supposed to be around the same $150 price, but it would be a matter of waiting to see which one of the board partners models is the quietest.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06X3W9NGG/
Ryzen 1700X discounted on Amazon today. I was actually just thinking of finally upgrading my i5 4690K and getting the 2700X - would that still be worth it or should I get this?
Ryzen 1700X discounted on Amazon today. I was actually just thinking of finally upgrading my i5 4690K and getting the 2700X - would that still be worth it or should I get this?
I was looking at Zotac 1050 mini and EVGA SC GAMING 1050, but I'm not sure if the 2GB vs 4GB Ti would make much of a difference other than in price
When the 11XX lines comes out, I'll see what prices do for the 1050 cards and go from there, since the gtx660 I have in there will work for now, just not at 4k, and I cant just splurge on a $200 card at will (I'm in Canada, so I dream of $150 price tags)
Thanks :)
I have a msi 1050ti gaming x. The fans don't turn on at all until 60C, I kinda doubt they'd turn on watching a 4k movie, and even then, it's almost inaudible, the cpu and case fans are much more audible anyway.
With most last gen games the card stays also under 60C btw so again I can't see noise being an issue honestly?
Do StoreMi and XFR really hold your interest? Then get a 2700X.
From my experience, StoreMeme can be useful in that it avoids some of the pitfalls that ISRT causes. However you're still creating a Harddrive-blob that cannot be accessed without the manager, and it won't run on linux.
XFR really only works when the processor is well cooled, and considering that it has 105w of heat to flush away before overclocking you'll probably only see it in action when it's only handling a single thread. In older AGESA versions (before 1.0.0.2c) there are also issues getting the DDR4 clock speed over 1467mhz without the usual memory_manager and attempted_write_in_protected_adress bluescreens
Oh and one more thing, StoreMI doesn't do Bitlocker.
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This thread got me to build a new PC. No regrets, its nice to play at 60 FPS again after a few years of console games.
So I've been kicking the idea around of upgrading my PC for a while, but I'm really struggling to justify the cost. If anyone wants to weigh in on my situation, that would be amazing. So I had some RAM kick the bucket and I'm currently down to 8GB DDR3. I am struggling with just replacing my dead RAM because I'd be buying something that's not current. The problem here is obviously that I'd need to replace the MOBO, RAM, and CPU all in one swoop. I'm currently running an i74770K, the aforementioned 8GB of DDR3 and an old Z87 MSI MOBO. I'd be keeping the GTX 1070 that I'm currently using. Really, this is a very roundabout way to ask if doing that full suite of upgrades is a smart move. Perhaps I should bite the bullet and pick up some DDR3. Maybe I should stop worrying about only having 8GB of RAM since it seems fine for the most part.
I'm gonna be honest I don't know what StoreMI and XFR are I'm just wondering if the 2700X is good enough to justify the extra $150+
If anyone has DDR4 2666 RAM and is upgrading to something else let me know. I want to upgrade to 2666, but RAM prices are outrageous right now.
Ideally I need 2x8GB sticks. And the 2666 speed would be the base speed not XMP.
Or better yet, anyone have good reliable spots to buy used RAM? I'm not going to pay these crazy inflated prices
Ideally I need 2x8GB sticks. And the 2666 speed would be the base speed not XMP.
Or better yet, anyone have good reliable spots to buy used RAM? I'm not going to pay these crazy inflated prices
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Today my gtx 1070 Ti finally showed up and the first thing I did was run benchmarks. I upgraded from a gtx 780 Ti and here are the results:
(scores are with both cards at stock clocks)
Superposition 1080p extreme:
Before: 2258 score, 13.40 fps min / 16.89 fps avg / 20.11 fps max
After: 3868 score, 24.04 fps min / 28.93 fps avg / 32.78 max
FF14 Stormblood 1080p maximum benchmark:
Before: 10,543 score
After: 18,488 score
FF14 Heavensward 1080p maximum benchmark:
Before: 10,632 score
After: 19,816 score
FF15 Windows benchmark:
Before: 3829 score
After: 7916 score
3dmark firestrike:
Before: 10,186 score (56.45 fps & 43.24 fps in the graphics tests)
After: 17,433 (101.35 fps & 80.82 fps in the graphics tests)
3dmark timespy:
Before: 3,227 score (19.52 fps & 17.03 fps in the graphics tests)
After: 6,805 score (44.78 fps & 40.34 fps in the graphics tests)
Sometimes the new card is twice as fast as the old one. I was mainly interested in the performance of FFXV and the extra power + 2.5x the vram makes a huge difference in how smooth it runs. Very pleased with the upgrade. :)
(scores are with both cards at stock clocks)
Superposition 1080p extreme:
Before: 2258 score, 13.40 fps min / 16.89 fps avg / 20.11 fps max
After: 3868 score, 24.04 fps min / 28.93 fps avg / 32.78 max
FF14 Stormblood 1080p maximum benchmark:
Before: 10,543 score
After: 18,488 score
FF14 Heavensward 1080p maximum benchmark:
Before: 10,632 score
After: 19,816 score
FF15 Windows benchmark:
Before: 3829 score
After: 7916 score
3dmark firestrike:
Before: 10,186 score (56.45 fps & 43.24 fps in the graphics tests)
After: 17,433 (101.35 fps & 80.82 fps in the graphics tests)
3dmark timespy:
Before: 3,227 score (19.52 fps & 17.03 fps in the graphics tests)
After: 6,805 score (44.78 fps & 40.34 fps in the graphics tests)
Sometimes the new card is twice as fast as the old one. I was mainly interested in the performance of FFXV and the extra power + 2.5x the vram makes a huge difference in how smooth it runs. Very pleased with the upgrade. :)
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What RAM is it? Many brands of RAM have lifetime warranties and are easy to send in for a replacement for only the cost of shipping your RAM out.
It's two Corsair Vengeance 4GB sticks. I suppose I should check out the replacement options on them then.
Yeah - even if you plan to upgrade, if there's a warranty, get that replaced and you can easily resell the refurbished/repaired/replacement sticks.
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If your goal is 1080p gaming then yep, it would be a good fit
I'm focusing more on graphic design and 3D modeling, less so gaming.
Is the Intel build at $570 still a pretty viable option? I haven't looked at PC builds in a while but I'm looking to help out my cousin on a pretty strict budget. He's trying to keep it sub $600 so he can get a decent keyboard and mouse, too. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
As long as your use case is ok with the limitations it is viable. It's a good general computer that can competently game at 1080p, but isn't going to regularly or even frequently handle high settings.
hey friends
I need to eventually build a new PC, but I'm trying to squeeze what's left out of my current rig, so I'm 90% sure the hard drive is on the way out. I want to replace it with a part that I'd use down the line, like maybe the new intel 760p M.2 SSD. I was thinking the 250Gb is looking nice
The plan is to run it on my PCI E 2.0 x4 port on this motherboard via an adapter
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M4A87TDUSB3/specifications/
concerns- 1. It's a pci-e 3.0 drive being shoehorned into a 2.0 slot
2. Will my motherboard allow Windows 10 booting from it?
What do you think ERA?
I need to eventually build a new PC, but I'm trying to squeeze what's left out of my current rig, so I'm 90% sure the hard drive is on the way out. I want to replace it with a part that I'd use down the line, like maybe the new intel 760p M.2 SSD. I was thinking the 250Gb is looking nice
The plan is to run it on my PCI E 2.0 x4 port on this motherboard via an adapter
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M4A87TDUSB3/specifications/
concerns- 1. It's a pci-e 3.0 drive being shoehorned into a 2.0 slot
2. Will my motherboard allow Windows 10 booting from it?
What do you think ERA?
Thanks, yeah, he's aware. It's a very strict budget (he's a high school student) and it's his first time to build. Thanks for the help.
I am still having issues with my computer; after pressing the power button, it stays on for a few seconds (the GPU lights up and the fans spin), it doesn't post and then turns off.
At this point I believe it might be either the PSU (which passed the paperclip test, but I don't think it's conclusive) or the mobo itself. I realised that one of the SYSFAN connectors on the mobo is not working anymore (only one though); could that be related to simply not having enough power? Or could that be the cause of the turning off? I don't know if it makes much sense, but I read that issues like this are often caused by something shortcircuiting; could it be the broken/malfunctioning port/connector?
At this point I believe it might be either the PSU (which passed the paperclip test, but I don't think it's conclusive) or the mobo itself. I realised that one of the SYSFAN connectors on the mobo is not working anymore (only one though); could that be related to simply not having enough power? Or could that be the cause of the turning off? I don't know if it makes much sense, but I read that issues like this are often caused by something shortcircuiting; could it be the broken/malfunctioning port/connector?
Try testing with a replacement PSU. This does sound like either a PSU or MB issue.
No guarantee that'll work, M.2 to PCI-E adapters are very unreliable on old motherboards, even moreso on AMD boards. And yes no guarantee Windows 10 would boot from it, or even let you install.
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Luckily it seems that I'll be able to borrow one from a friend, so I'll be able to see what's the cause soon enough. If it ends up being the MB I wonder what could have caused the issue, it started pretty randomly as far as I am aware.
Thanks, haha. Deal ended in the meantime so I think I'll just go for the 2700x and hold onto it for a little longer. More up front but oh well
It doesn't sound like you have any performance issues relative to what you run with that setup so not sure why you'd upgrade. At most just get more RAM.
I think I'm just trapped in a desire to upgrade regardless of whether or not I need to O.o
anyone else having issues with the latest windows 10 updates? i'm on 1803 and installed the latest cumulative update.
my pc often resets OC settings when awakening from sleep mode. it was running just fine on the previous version. also now i'm getting the occasional issues with sound. it will make a buzzing sound now and then. ive got my sound drivers up to date.
god i hate W10.
my pc often resets OC settings when awakening from sleep mode. it was running just fine on the previous version. also now i'm getting the occasional issues with sound. it will make a buzzing sound now and then. ive got my sound drivers up to date.
god i hate W10.
Where's the best place to try and find older motherboards for sale? In particular for me a LGA1150 motherboard? And it there any specific board or maker you guys would recommend?
I managed to somehow break all of my pci-e slots on my motherboard this morning.
I managed to somehow break all of my pci-e slots on my motherboard this morning.
Did you just get tired of the slots and start biting them or something? How do you manage that? xD
Newegg still sells old LGA1150 boards. If you want discounted or used to try to cut costs, they have some open box and refurbished ones. I've also sold on Craigslist in the past, but I usually include the CPU and RAM. So I'm guessing Newegg might be a better choice. Don't have any particular recommendations for LGA1150 boards. Gigabyte are generally good, and so are ASUS. If you like cheaping out, ASRock isn't half bad (but don't expect it to be perfect).
Here's a list of how people rank board makers: https://www.ranker.com/list/the-best-motherboard-manufacturers/computer-hardware
I second this. I've picked up a couple of LGA1155 and FM2 boards and they've all been fine. Sometimes they don't come with an I/O shield, so check the listing. Most of these seem to be unsold stock or refurb boards from China.
Yeah, well, join the club. I've got a $3500 water-cooled PC i built last June and I seriously contemplated switching out the CPU to an 8700k (from 7700k) and a Maximus X Code (from the Maximus IX). Thankfully I came to my senses!
It's a curse for sure. I think I'll do some little things like upgrading to a modular PSU and replacing my case fans for now since they are getting a bit noisy.
Make sure your on the latest bios of your motherboard. The latest windows update needs a bios update on many motherboards to work properly.
WD Green 240GB 2.5" 7mm Solid State Drive
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B076Y374ZH/ref=twister_B07D8HYLGX?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.ebuyer.com/811274-wd-green-240gb-2-5-7mm-solid-state-drive-wds240g2g0a
£44.98
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B076Y374ZH/ref=twister_B07D8HYLGX?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.ebuyer.com/811274-wd-green-240gb-2-5-7mm-solid-state-drive-wds240g2g0a
£44.98
So, I am considering upgrading the cpu on my PC. Which means changing the mobo and getting new ram....
Right now I am looking at a $1k upgrade...
My current build is a i5 2500k
Gtx 1070
Im looking at getting a i7 8700k
The asus rog maximus x formula
And 16gb of ddr 4 4333 ram...
Thoughts? Is that overkill? Could i do something wiser
What really attracts me on the rog maximus x formula board is the amount of usb slots on the back as I have a ton of needs for usb connections.
<edit> apparently I should get the ddr4 3000 ram?
Right now I am looking at a $1k upgrade...
My current build is a i5 2500k
Gtx 1070
Im looking at getting a i7 8700k
The asus rog maximus x formula
And 16gb of ddr 4 4333 ram...
Thoughts? Is that overkill? Could i do something wiser
What really attracts me on the rog maximus x formula board is the amount of usb slots on the back as I have a ton of needs for usb connections.
<edit> apparently I should get the ddr4 3000 ram?
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4333 RAM is probably waaaay into the deep end of the "diminishing returns" area for RAM in terms of price. I'd say 3000 to 3200 is the sweet spot right now, personally.
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