Pokémon Let's Go Eevee/Pikachu (Switch) announced; coming Nov 16th 2018

milkyway · May 31, 2018

Honestly my excitement has done a 180 on these games. After being inundated with bullshit from S&M, I'm kind of glad to go back to a simpler time with what will probably be a relatively faithful remake with some cute elements thrown in like motion control capturing and following Pokemon, all in HD (it looks fine enough). I could do without the PoGo stuff but it doesn't bother me too much considering it seems optional and fairly nonessential. Pokemon Yellow is still one of my favorite games and although it'd be nice to at least have Gen 2 Pokemon or the evolutions from later gens thrown in, I can live with the original 151(+1).

I would be utterly disappointed if this was the new course for the games, but with an additional core game being released in 2019, how can I complain? It'll have a long development cycle and will likely cater more to the long-term fans, hopefully forgoing some of the bullshit handholding of the last 2 generations. This is probably the best part of these games being released - they're meant to cater to the type of people that Gen 6 and 7 over-catered to so that Gen 8 can just go wild. I shouldn't get overly hopeful but at this point I think Gen 8 could be a stunner.

Deleted member 35011 · May 31, 2018

Metallix87 said:
Again, the last two gens were filled to the brim with Gen 1 pandering, so there is literally zero reason for anyone to assume Gen 8 will be any different.

Wait so hang on, your issue isn't with this game, aimed at lapsed fans, but at the Kanto content in other games? Like the Alola Kanto Pokemon and stuff?

1000% H · May 31, 2018

Velord said:
I mean I get what you're going for, but it's not like the new game was canceled, it's still coming out next year. Which I personally actually prefer because I don't think they could make a legit jump from Sun/Moon to something else in the dev time they had, so now I'm more excited about Gen 8 than I'd otherwise be.

If you get what I was going for then I'm not sure why you even compared two franchises that are so wildly different in the first place.

ClickyCal' · May 31, 2018

1000% H said:
A better comparison would be in the alternate timeline where we never got the Metroid Prime Trilogy, and instead got MP1 with motion controls, and then instead of MP4 getting announced, we got a MP1 reimagining announced.

It would be more like if tons of ganes throughout the series played as much into super metroid nostalgia as pokemon did with gen 1, and they remade super metroid on the gba, and then again on the switch.

Beje · May 31, 2018

zoukka said:
It's easier to develop these two games to cater to everyone (the 3DS games did not cater to everyone) and we get one earlier than the other. It's win win for all.

It's not a win for all, since as I said competitive players get stuck on ancient 2011 hardware to play through all the rest of this year and ALL 2019.

Metallix87 · May 31, 2018

Velord said:
Wait so hang on, your issue isn't with this game, aimed at lapsed fans, but at the Kanto content in other games? Like the Alola Kanto Pokemon and stuff?

It's all of it together. It's just a glut of Gen 1 pandering with no end in sight, and these games are the seeming culmination of those efforts, with the outright exclusion of the non-Gen 1 Pokemon.

RochHoch · May 31, 2018

AzVal said:
Back then some people felt that Nintendo games always catered to all ages and audiences and suddenly Labo was a game openly rejecting them.
I fail to see how is this game that different from the other spinoffs, but I guess we have the same outcry as here every time a pokemon puzzle, picos or other game is launched, I just don't visit those threads, this I do because I am open to the proposal of the game.

Labo is an entirely different situation though. It's not a sequel, or a part of an 20 year old franchise that people are already familiar with, so it's very reasonable for it to have been targeted only to children. Pokemon isn't like that.

And people were never this frustrated with the spin-offs like Puzzle League and Mystery Dungeon. They're don't even play remotely similar to the main games, aren't developed by Gamefreak, and were never touted as significant entries to the franchise, so there was no reason to be upset.

Cybersai · May 31, 2018

batfax said:
So gen 2 pandering soon for sure, right? We won't be forgotten? Kris will come back?

... no?

Heh, both Kris and now Leaf were replaced in their remakes with new girls, such as Lyra and this new female in the Let's Go games.

That makes May the only female protagonist to return in the remakes of her games. I guess she was just too popular due to the anime unlike the others.

Revolsin · May 31, 2018

RochHoch said:
I disagree. Labo was an entirely new product, so it's fine that it was primarily targeted towards younger audiences.

Pokemon however has ALWAYS catered to all ages and audiences, so to have Let's Go openly reject hardcore fans feels like a slap in the face.

It's pretty clear it didn't achieve that goal though, considering the massive positive response for these games and tons of people who haven't played the franchise in decades joining in.

They patently wouldn't have reached both audiences with their old approach. That's a fact.

wrinkleddollar · May 31, 2018

Kiraly said:
Fair if GF envisions the game to only have the original 151, but to not even have the rest in post-game or likewise is just straight up bullshit. Alienates a whole lot of fans for zero return.

Can't disagree and I found myself thinking the same earlier. However, it is clear that the scope of this game is very casual and I think if they included 800 pokemon it would be overwhelming to the kids they're trying to draw into the game.

It's like a nibble of the Pokemon universe to get them ready for 2019 release. Pokemon Co is creating a new generation of Nintendo fanboys with this plan

1000% H · May 31, 2018

Lady Bow said:
Whether it's pandering or not is in the eyes of the beholder....since you know it's just a word with a negative connotation.

Did you ever think of the people frustrated at you for guys crapping up this thread with the "le genwunner" stuff? I love all gens but I'm still excited for this game. I come here to discuss said game but now I gotta deal with gen warring crap. Your frustration is frustrating to me and a lot of people.

There's no way you're seriously using "le genwunner" and "now I gotta deal with gen warring crap" in the same post.

Metallix87 · May 31, 2018

Revolsin said:
It's pretty clear it didn't achieve that goal though, considering the massive positive response for these games and tons of people who haven't played the franchise in decades joining in.

They patently wouldn't have reached both audiences with their old approach. That's a fact.

I mean, this is jumping the gun quite a bit, isn't it? We have positive buzz. We have to see if that translates into a noticeable uptick in sales.

ClickyCal' · May 31, 2018

wrinkleddollar said:
Can't disagree and I found myself thinking the same earlier. However, it is clear that the scope of this game is very casual and I think if they included 800 pokemon it would be overwhelming to the kids they're trying to draw into the game.

It's like a nibble of the Pokemon universe to get them ready for 2019 release. Pokemon Co is creating a new generation of Nintendo fanboys with this plan

If they are drawing kids in, why does the end of the trailer say "Your very first adventure...reimagined!"

ShinobiBk · May 31, 2018

How about we all get upset about something together?
We get a new Pokemon spin-off announced (Quest) and its not Snap 2? What do we have to do to bring GOAT spin off back?

MegaManTrigger said:
People are way too quick to assume that the Let's Go are going to become a sub/series. It really opens up how flawed the potential design elements for this game is if you think about it: why do we have a game that specifically lists that only Kanto Pokemon from Go can be transferred to it? Especially when Pokemon Go is already 3 generations in. So you mean to tell me you're going to create at least 2+ generations of Let's Go Games to account for newer generations of Pokemon annually? That is such an inefficient idea and you risk burning out people especially with "traditional" mainline games being developed side-by-side.

Re: Eevee marketing. A lot of people have also used the Eevee marketing argument, but the thing is Eevee wasn't just marketed exclusively. Eevee and its evolutions were usually marketed together, which again, makes sense given that's Eevee's niche. This is also why IMO LGE/P doesn't make a lot sense with its restrictions, but that's another argument.

These games will crush in sales, yes even more so than standard Pokemon games. That's what I'm basing them making more Let's Go games on.
At the very least, if this game sells the way I think it will, I'm sure we'll get Johto.

If it was me, I would intentionally have gen 8 with an entirely different scope and graphical style to differentiate the 2 series even further.

Metallix87 · May 31, 2018

ShinobiBk said:
These games will crush in sales, yes even more so than standard Pokemon games. That's what I'm basing them making more Let's Go games on.
At the very least, if this game sells the way I think it will, I'm sure we'll get Johto.

If it was me, I would intentionally have gen 8 with an entirely different scope and graphical style to differentiate the 2.

That's a really bold statement. I don't think there's much proof of that. Historically, the remakes have never performed better than new mainline games.

Deleted member 35011 · May 31, 2018

1000% H said:
If you get what I was going for then I'm not sure why you even compared two franchises that are so wildly different in the first place.

Analogies are generally made to demonstrate a point devoid of the current context in an attempt to get a point across devoid of the emotionally charged topic. That's kinda what I was going for there, I wasn't going for a 1:1 thing.

What I was saying was that your counter-analogy didn't really apply, because in this case the hypothetical "MP4" wouldn't have been cancelled. We'd be getting the MP1 reimagining and MP4 the following year.

Metallix87 said:
It's all of it together. It's just a glut of Gen 1 pandering with no end in sight, and these games are the seeming culmination of those efforts, with the outright exclusion of the non-Gen 1 Pokemon.

I see. Well, I understand why that would bug you. It personally doesn't bug me, but I can understand why that's a problem for you, I hope you get a game that suits your tastes someday.

Revolsin · May 31, 2018

Metallix87 said:
I mean, this is jumping the gun quite a bit, isn't it? We have positive buzz. We have to see if that translates into a noticeable uptick in sales.

It's already showing. Amazon showed an immediate Switch bump consistently up to the Top 6 best selling products up from #12-#15 following these games.

It hasn't even had full marketing yet and even a hardware bump is showing already. I'd be very very hard-pressed to think this won't do well.

Deleted member 35011 · May 31, 2018

MegaManTrigger said:
People are way too quick to assume that the Let's Go are going to become a sub/series. It really opens up how flawed the potential design elements for this game is if you think about it: why do we have a game that specifically lists that only Kanto Pokemon from Go can be transferred to it? Especially when Pokemon Go is already 3 generations in. So you mean to tell me you're going to create at least 2+ generations of Let's Go Games to account for newer generations of Pokemon annually? That is such an inefficient idea and you risk burning out people especially with "traditional" mainline games being developed side-by-side.

Re: Eevee marketing. A lot of people have also used the Eevee marketing argument, but the thing is Eevee wasn't just marketed exclusively. Eevee and its evolutions were usually marketed together, which again, makes sense given that's Eevee's niche. This is also why IMO LGE/P doesn't make a lot sense with its restrictions, but that's another argument.

People are assuming this will become a series because of this thread, I think:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-pokemon-let’s-go-2019-info-facebook-post.46031/

Relevant part being:

- Gamefreak officially stated that core games will come in two supplements for the future, Games like this for the newer crowd and your typical Pokémon game for hardcore fans. The 2019 release is geared for hardcore fans. This is targeted to introduce new players into the franchise adopting some familiarity with the ever successful Pokémon Go.

Of course, that statement can be taken a few different ways, but personally I am admittedly taking it to mean that the Let's Go games will be a series.

batfax · May 31, 2018

Cybersai said:
Heh, both Kris and now Leaf were replaced in their remakes with new girls, such as Lyra and this new female in the Let's Go games.

That makes May the only female protagonist to return in the remakes of her games. I guess she was just too popular due to the anime unlike the others.

I still think Lyra is one of the most boneheaded things Game Freak has ever done. They basically replaced the closest thing to Red a lot of my friends have for no reason.

Metallix87 · May 31, 2018

Revolsin said:
It's already showing. Amazon showed an immediate Switch bump consistently up to the Top 6 best selling products up from #12-#15 following these games.

It hasn't even had full marketing yet and even a hardware bump is showing already. I'd be very very hard-pressed to think this won't do well.

Do you have any metrics to compare this to, though? Isn't this just the norm for new mainline Pokemon game announcements?

Cybersai · May 31, 2018

batfax said:
I still think Lyra is one of the most boneheaded things Game Freak has ever done. They basically replaced the closest thing to Red a lot of my friends have for no reason.

It's likely due to Crystal being a third version. Had Kris been in the original Gold/Silver, she probably would have returned just with new clothes or something.

perfectchaos007 · May 31, 2018

Crazy Izanagi said:
As I said earlier this game is actively encouraging Gen wars by completely excluding 6 entire generations.

I understand your frustration at trying to discuss the game but frankly GF brought this upon themselves by excluding so much that people loved. Of course there going to be backlash from those who were left out.

You're trying to make this into a gen war, when more than likely this game is just targeted towards those who loved Pokemon GO and the "mainline" game that comes out next year will have Gen 8 pokemon and all the 7 gen pokemon before it. A "war" is unnecessary when we are all getting what we want. Just be patient.

Metallix87 · May 31, 2018

Ron Paul said:
You're trying to make this into a gen war, when more than likely this game is just targeted towards those who loved Pokemon GO and the "mainline" game that comes out next year will have Gen 8 pokemon and all the 7 gen pokemon before it. A "war" is unnecessary when we are all getting what we want. Just be patient.

If that were the case, the evolutions to Gen 1 Pokemon added later on would be included, much like Alolan forms are.

ClickyCal' · May 31, 2018

Metallix87 said:
If that were the case, the evolutions to Gen 1 Pokemon added later on would be included, much like Alolan forms are.

yea, it's weird alola forms are there, but not evos and pre evos.

AzVal · May 31, 2018

RochHoch said:
Labo is an entirely different situation though. It's not a sequel, or a part of an 20 year old franchise that people are already familiar with, so it's very reasonable for it to have been targeted only to children. Pokemon isn't like that.

And people were never this frustrated with the spin-offs like Puzzle League and Mystery Dungeon. They're don't even play remotely similar to the main games, aren't developed by Gamefreak, and were never touted as significant entries to the franchise, so there was no reason to be upset.

Then there is no reason for people that get angry to get angry, they are the ones that can see the Let's Go games for what they are, not a core Game. The ones that are being targeted by the game, the Go crowd, probably don't know what a Core game is.

RochHoch · May 31, 2018

Revolsin said:
It's already showing. Amazon showed an immediate Switch bump consistently up to the Top 6 best selling products up from #12-#15 following these games.

It hasn't even had full marketing yet and even a hardware bump is showing already. I'd be very very hard-pressed to think this won't do well.

That proves nothing. The same exact thing would have happened if it were Gen 8 that had been announced.

perfectchaos007 · May 31, 2018

Metallix87 said:
If that were the case, the evolutions to Gen 1 Pokemon added later on would be included, much like Alolan forms are.

Pokemon GO was out for more than 6 months before Gen 2. was introduced. Wouldn't surprise me if this game gets free DLC down the road to add more gens. Who knows, but by that time Gen 8 will be out

ILikeFeet · May 31, 2018

wrinkleddollar said:
Can't disagree and I found myself thinking the same earlier. However, it is clear that the scope of this game is very casual and I think if they included 800 pokemon it would be overwhelming to the kids they're trying to draw into the game.

It's like a nibble of the Pokemon universe to get them ready for 2019 release. Pokemon Co is creating a new generation of Nintendo fanboys with this plan

There's no way to even get all 800 pokemon in a single game anyway. The overwhelming newcomers idea never made much sense

Cinemikel · May 31, 2018

All signs point to the 2019 game having high production values

The fact that they've been working on the 2019 game since before Switch came out and they've been referencing this game as the thing they've been talking about this whole time like at E3 2017... woo baby. With Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee, they bought themselves another year for polish and content for the big game. It's gonna be great

ShinobiBk · May 31, 2018

Beje said:
It's not a win for all, since as I said competitive players get stuck on ancient 2011 hardware to play through all the rest of this year and ALL 2019.

I'm pretty sure Pokemon fans were swearing up and down Pokemon Switch (the core RPG) wouldn't hit until 2019. You guys were right so I'm not sure what you're so upset over. You all figured it was too soon for Gen VIII and should be happy they're not rushing it out to just get something on the Switch. Now hopefully Gen VIII can be a big step toward for the series
I wouldn't hold my breath (of the wild) about that though ;)

Metallix87 said:
That's a really bold statement. I don't think there's much proof of that. Historically, the remakes have never performed better than new mainline games.

I know it's a bold statement. I guess we'll see at the end of the year when I'm proven right lol

Beje · May 31, 2018

Ron Paul said:
You're trying to make this into a gen war, when more than likely this game is just targeted towards those who loved Pokemon GO and the "mainline" game that comes out next year will have Gen 8 pokemon and all the 7 gen pokemon before it. A "war" is unnecessary when we are all getting what we want. Just be patient.

Regarding the bolded, sorry but I disagree. Expanding on this post of mine:

Beje said:
Do what other remakes have done before an open up after the game is finished? It was very easy, as I said they just needed to add bank support, full-fledged online, a 2-slot daycare, the option to check IVs directly in the boxes and EVs in the stats page and done!

Lapsed players get the nostalgia fueled ride (and some introduction to stuff they didn't know and make them interested in keeping up with the series!)

Little kids get a cute game they can handle and play along with their parents or siblings and that can ease them into the more complicated mechanics when Generation 8 arrives, if they ever desire to explore further

Long time fans get a fun diversion until proper Gen.8 arrives and an updated platform for competitive battling so they're not stuck with ancient hardware that struggles to maintain framerate above 20 fps and that has pixels the size of fists when upscaled on a TV for broadcast.

LITERALLY EVERYBODY could have won. Yet it seems some people wouldn't be happy if some of us didn't.

Instead...

Lapsed players are not eased and introduced, even if slightly, to the 20 years legacy of the series. Generation 8 comes and it's 100% unfamiliar to them and gets ignored.

Little kids are not introduced to stuff they might find in Generation 8 when they get interested in it. They find the games confusing and complicated. Game is back the next day into the pre-owned bin of their local game store or forever forgotten on a shelf.

And long-time fans get stuck until late 2019 into doing competitions in ancient hardware that was already outdated by 2011 standards. Some of them get fed up and just move to unofficial simulators to get their fix. Future games probably get ignored.

IMHO nobody wins, and Gamefreak is the one with the worst net loses in the long term no matter how good this game sells

Metallix87 · May 31, 2018

Ron Paul said:
Pokemon GO was out for more than 6 months before Gen 2. was introduced. Wouldn't surprise me if this game gets free DLC down the road to add more gens. Who knows, but by that time Gen 8 will be out

This shouldn't be a thing. Why is that okay, in your eyes?

Gold Arsene · May 31, 2018

Ron Paul said:
You're trying to make this into a gen war, when more than likely this game is just targeted towards those who loved Pokemon GO and the "mainline" game that comes out next year will have Gen 8 pokemon and all the 7 gen pokemon before it. A "war" is unnecessary when we are all getting what we want. Just be patient.

No other Pokémon game has ever excluded this much.

It's to the point where they took away parts of these Pokémon that have been established for almost a decade at this point.

It's kind of ridiculous frankly. Would Go fans just recall in horror at the sight of a Pichu? Would Crobats mere presence somehow ruin this game?

It's things like that which make it frustrating and encourages in-fighting IMO.

RochHoch · May 31, 2018

AzVal said:
Then there is no reason for people that get angry to get angry, they are the ones that can see the Let's Go games for what they are, not a core Game. The ones that are being targeted by the game, the Go crowd, probably don't know what a Core game is.

Except in this case, Let's Go is being treated as the next major RPG and is a direct remake of one of the core games, the first of which that completely abandons what hardcore fans like to see from the series.

Deleted member 35077 · May 31, 2018

Ron Paul said:
Pokemon GO was out for more than 6 months before Gen 2. was introduced. Wouldn't surprise me if this game gets free DLC down the road to add more gens. Who knows, but by that time Gen 8 will be out

It won't, Masuda has repeated stated that there will never be DLC or microtransactions in Pokemon.

Deleted member 35011 · May 31, 2018

Crazy Izanagi said:
No other Pokémon game has ever excluded this much.

It's to the point where they took away parts of these Pokémon that have been established for almost a decade at this point.

It's kind of ridiculous frankly. Would Go fans just recall in horror at the sight of a Pichu? Would Golbats mere presence somehow ruin this game?

It's things like that which make it frustrating and encourages in-fighting IMO.

I mean Golbats are gen 1 so they'll still be in the game, but I just need to say that they and Zubats at the very least have ruined a lot of dungeons if I forget to bring repels.

batfax · May 31, 2018

Cybersai said:
It's likely due to Crystal being a third version. Had Kris been in the original Gold/Silver, she probably would have returned just with new clothes or something.

And yet we're posting in a thread for a game that's a remake of Yellow. Being the third version shouldn't be an excuse, but if it is, I really hope Let's Go Johto does the right thing.

Gold Arsene · May 31, 2018

Velord said:
I mean Golbats are gen 1 so they'll still be in the game, but I just need to say that they and Zubats at the very least have ruined a lot of dungeons if I forget to bring repels.

I meant Crobat. Fuck I'm tired.

Fixed it.

1000% H · May 31, 2018

Velord said:
Analogies are generally made to demonstrate a point devoid of the current context in an attempt to get a point across devoid of the emotionally charged topic. That's kinda what I was going for there, I wasn't going for a 1:1 thing.

What I was saying was that your counter-analogy didn't really apply, because in this case the hypothetical "MP4" wouldn't have been cancelled. We'd be getting the MP1 reimagining and MP4 the following year.

There's no equivalent for Metroid and Pokemon though. Pokemon has hundreds of characters while Metroid has Samus and a handful of others. Doesn't matter what kind of Metroid you like, you like playing as Samus. Pokemon has been in the business of adding content to expand the core ideas while Metroid has been in the business of changing how those core ideas are used. You simply can't replicate the problem with Pokemon in any way, shape, or form with Metroid. There's no way you can explicitly cut out content from a new Metroid game in an attempt to appeal to OG Metroid fans specifically. You can remake or reimagine a Metroid game, any Metroid game, and it won't involve cutting out anything from newer Metroid games because Metroid games are always stand alone and don't interact with one another outside of sharing a story/world. The fact that you can somehow see how my analogy doesn't work because it's not 1:1 when your original isn't even close is baffling.

louisacommie · May 31, 2018

There probably will be six year olds sad they can't use Lucario or Any of the non alolan variation Pokemon big in the anime, right now.

Charamiwa · May 31, 2018

This thread is a pain to follow. We suffered through months of rumors and clock resetting and it was still more fun than having to read through these tired, predictable and now kind of vile debates. I'm now afraid to relive a Xenoblade 2 situation where some people are just unable to let go and make peace with the fact that this isn't what they want, and will just pollute those threads for the end of times. Damn that's annoying.

AzVal · May 31, 2018

RochHoch said:
Except in this case, Let's Go is being treated as the next major RPG and is a direct remake of one of the core games, the first of which that completely abandons what hardcore fans like to see from the series.

You know it is not the next Core, I know it is not, TPC went out of their way to tell the core series fans when to expect what we assume is gen 8, rational people should not be upset in any way for the existence of the Let's Go games.

ClickyCal' · May 31, 2018

Crazy Izanagi said:
No other Pokémon game has ever excluded this much.

It's to the point where they took away parts of these Pokémon that have been established for almost a decade at this point.

It's kind of ridiculous frankly. Would Go fans just recall in horror at the sight of a Pichu? Would Crobats mere presence somehow ruin this game?

It's things like that which make it frustrating and encourages in-fighting IMO.

Someone posted before that a 31 year old dude on facebook flipped shit when pichu and cleffa were added to go.

Deleted member 35011 · May 31, 2018

Crazy Izanagi said:
I meant Crobat. Fuck I'm tired.

I know, was just teasing, sorry :P

Though seriously, fuck Golbats. To this day I remember their and Zubat's cries better than nearly everything Pokemon because of how often they showed up haha.

1000% H said:
There's no equivalent for Metroid and Pokemon though. Pokemon has hundreds of characters while Metroid has Samus and a handful of others. Doesn't matter what kind of Metroid you like, you like playing as Samus. Pokemon has been in the business of adding content to expand the core ideas while Metroid has been in the business of changing how those core ideas are used. You simply can't replicate the problem with Pokemon in any way, shape, or form with Metroid. There's no way you can explicitly cut out content from a new Metroid game in an attempt to appeal to OG Metroid fans specifically. You can remake or reimagine a Metroid game, any Metroid game, and it won't involve cutting out anything from newer Metroid games because Metroid games are always stand alone and don't interact with one another outside of sharing a story/world. The fact that you can somehow see how my analogy doesn't work because it's not 1:1 when your original isn't even close is baffling.

That's not true. There's actually a pretty decent divide between people who like 2D metroids and people who like the 3D ones , Not on Era particularly, I don't think, but those debates were a huuuuge thing back then. They just died down when we thought we were never getting more Metroid games period.

I mean, I can keep debating the meaning of the analogy with you, but that seems like a lot of semantic debate over basically nothing. If you want, I can do that, but if not, to get back to the original point I was making: people like what they like. Asking them to not want to play a game they'd otherwise be interested in because other fans in the series want something else is kind of silly.

1000% H · May 31, 2018

Velord said:
I know, was just teasing, sorry :P

Though seriously, fuck Golbats. To this day I remember their and Zubat's cries better than nearly everything Pokemon because of how often they showed up haha.

That's not true. There's actually a pretty decent divide between people who like 2D metroids and people who like the 3D ones , Not on Era particularly, I don't think, but those debates were a huuuuge thing back then. They just died down when we thought we were never getting more Metroid games period.

I mean, I can keep debating the meaning of the analogy with you, but that seems like a lot of semantic debate over basically nothing. If you want, I can do that, but if not, to get back to the original point I was making: people like what they like. Asking them to not want to play a game they'd otherwise be interested in because other fans in the series want something else is kind of silly.

That's more in line with how 2D Mario and 3D Mario are, in that they are basically different genres at that point. What's the actual connecting line here? That Metroid and Pokemon are both video games? Because then, yes, sure whatevs.

perfectchaos007 · May 31, 2018

Castile said:
It won't, Masuda has repeated stated that there will never be DLC or microtransactions in Pokemon.

Forgive me if I missed an announcement on this, but is it confirmed that Gen 2 and Gen 3 pokemon won't be available in the post game? In Fire red Leaf Green, I seem to remember you couldn't access the Johto and Hoenn pokemon until after defeating the Elite 4. Could be the case here, but they aren't going to spoil that in the first trailer......

ClickyCal' · May 31, 2018

louisacommie said:
There probably will be six year olds sad they can't use Lucario or Any of the non alolan variation Pokemon big in the anime, right now.

Remember when Joe said little timmy will be sad when he can't use his manetric? It's true.

Poison Jam · May 31, 2018

Kiraly said:
I haven't heard a single good reason yet why GF has made a good decision in excluding 656 Pokémon.

It's cheaper to develop with fewer monsters.

Almost all of the first gen Pokémon have been in Go since the start. So even if you haven't played it since around release when it was a worldwide phenomenon, you'll have some Pokémon there that can connect and be used in Let's Go.

And The Pokémon Company obviously seem to think that Gen 1 is the most marketable. Which is very important saleswise.

These are three possible reasons. They probably had more. Was it a good decision? We don't know yet. But if you operate under the assumption that is wasn't, then you likely won't be satisfied by any reasons.

Kiraly · May 31, 2018

Ron Paul said:
Forgive me if I missed an announcement on this, but is it confirmed that Gen 2 and Gen 3 pokemon won't be available in the post game? In Fire red Leaf Green, I seem to remember you couldn't access the Johto and Hoenn pokemon until after defeating the Elite 4. Could be the case here, but they aren't going to spoil that in the first trailer......

The official website specifically writes "Pokémon originally discovered in the Kanto region" or something similar when speaking about the Pokémon GO transfer possibilities. Safe to say they're not.

Gold Arsene · May 31, 2018

yuoke said:
Someone posted before that a 31 year old dude on facebook flipped shit when pichu and cleffa were added to go.

Oh jeez. I just don't get why someone would be this bothered by new Gens.

Velord said:
I know, was just teasing, sorry :P

Though seriously, fuck Golbats. To this day I remember their and Zubat's cries better than nearly everything Pokemon because of how often they showed up haha.

Heh it's fine. Yeah Zubats really were the worst in Gen 1.

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