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eShop E3 surprise of this year

  • Mother 3

    Votes: 102 17.9%
  • Mother Trilogy

    Votes: 105 18.4%
  • Mother 4

    Votes: 22 3.9%
  • Mother: The Dark World

    Votes: 144 25.3%
  • Grandmother

    Votes: 197 34.6%

  • Total voters
    570
  • Poll closed .

Kirbivore

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,934
Damn it's been two days and Knights of Pen and Paper is almost pushed off the page.
 

Epilexia

Member
Jan 27, 2018
2,675
Damn, 'Gridd: Retroenhanced' seems like the lovechild of 'Thumper' and 'Star Fox 64' in roguelite version.

By looking at some videos, it's absolutely gorgeous and breathtaking.



If the port is good, my absolute highlight of this month.
 

HotHamBoy

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
16,423
So West of Loathing is a game I'd not heard of before people mentioned it was confirmed for Switch.

I am baffled by the reviews. This game looks like early Newgrounds Macromedia-era Flash garbage.

Is it really that good? Should I buy it?

Sorry, should've been more clear, I blame my poor english :P
If you pre-purchase the game digitally you get double the coins (from June 1 to June 21).
So 10% off basically. That's $6, not bad. Almost enough for an ACA game!
 

NinjaHound

Member
Nov 5, 2017
591
Thats the first Ys game for Switch right?

I've never played Ys before, is it a good place to start?
 

HotHamBoy

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
16,423
PSA!!

So it seems that Switch is indeed the worst platfirm for fighting game fans, and not just because of the lack of D-Pad on the JoyCons.

The real issue is that the vast majority of opponents will be playing with a shitty wireless connection. Extra shitty because its portable, so likely not docked near the router.


Lots of people in the Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection OT are saying online play on Switch
is a nightmare of laggy connections and disconnects due to the mostly wireless playerbase. People with multiple versions saying Switch has the worst online, even when your own connection is wired.

So if you have other platforms on which you can play games such as Street Fighter, Blazblue Cross-Tag Battle or SNK Heroines then you might be better served buying those games there.

On the plus side, one thing that seems to have born out is that the playerbase is one of the healthiest on Switch due to the lack of online fighters to divide the audience.

All the same, this is a bummer and something to keep in mind. I hope Smash Bros is acceptable.
 
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AzerPhire

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,188
Can I make a suggestion OP? Can you please list the games in order of release date? Would make it so much easier to read.
 

Opa-Pa

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,810
So West of Loathing is a game I'd not heard of before people mentioned it was confirmed for Switch.

I am baffled by the reviews. This game looks like early Newgrounds Macromedia-era Flash garbage.

Is it really that good? Should I buy it?


So 10% off basically. That's $6, not bad. Almost enough for an ACA game!
Yeah I'm a bit confused too. I saw some users excited about it in the past thread but all I know about it is, well, how it looks.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,644
In retrospect, I'm relieved Dark Souls was delayed. May was a slaughter for both my playing schedule and my wallet. For starters, I didn't expect to double-dip on DKCTF (nor that I would be so unreservedly happy about the decision), and then PixelJunk Monsters 2, Ikaruga, and Street Fighter all ambushed me at once. Picked up one or two other items on sale, too. Now you're all telling me Yoku's Island Express came out of nowhere, and it looks very much up my alley, so on the wish list it goes for later reference, because mercy, eShop have mercy.

It's not quite as bad/glorious as last year's August/September barrage (Sonic Mania, Mario+Rabbids, SteamWorld Dig 2, Thimbleweed Park, Golf Story) but this recent stretch has been the closest thing I've seen since, and I've deliberately skipped quite a bit that caught my eye just to keep the situation moderately under control. It's not under control.

The prognosis for June: likely to grab Mario Tennis depending on how the demo goes. Strongly considering Sushi Striker on the promise of its excellent demo, but I'm balking at the price and want to see the rest of Nintendo's 2018 lineup first. Interested in Lumines but I've suddenly found myself with a retro backlog problem (see also: Ikaruga, Street Fighter) and may have to hold off. Waiting, as always, to pull the trigger on Hollow Knight the minute it shows up, as it's looking closer than ever. And who knows what the hell else will catch us all off guard.
 

Epilexia

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Jan 27, 2018
2,675
Yeah I'm a bit confused too. I saw some users excited about it in the past thread but all I know about it is, well, how it looks.

For those actively following the indie scene, 'West of Loathing' was one of the most important indie releases in 2017, and a TOP 10 amongst all the indie games released in this year.

- It obtained a Recommended mention in Rock Paper Shotgun, one of the most illustrious webs covering the indie scene. And this is an achievement that only a few titles have obtained in the history of the web.

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- It was a finalist in the IGF Awards (the MOST important and INFLUENTIAL video game festival), for the main and most important prize, the Seumas McNally Grand Prize.

- It appeared in some of the most important Game of the Year 2017 lists. To name a few, it obtained the Best Comedy Game award in PC Gamer, and it appeared in the TOP 50 best games of Polygon in the number 16.

- This is always subjective, but in my opinion and for my personal taste, it has one of the most impressive artistic designs seen in a contemporary game.
 

HotHamBoy

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
16,423
For those actively following the indie scene, 'West of Loathing' was one of the most important indie releases in 2017, and a TOP 10 amongst all the indie games released in this year.

- It obtained a Recommended mention in Rock Paper Shotgun, one of the most illustrious webs covering the indie scene. And this is an achievement that only a few titles have obtained in the history of the web.

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- It was a finalist in the IGF Awards (the MOST important and INFLUENTIAL video game festival), for the main and most important prize, the Seumas McNally Grand Prize.

- It appeared in some of the most important Game of the Year 2017 lists. To name a few, it obtained the Best Comedy Game award in PC Gamer, and it appeared in the TOP 50 best games of Polygon in the number 16.

- This is always subjective, but in my opinion and for my personal taste, it has one of the most impressive artistic designs seen in a contemporary game.
Damn it.
 

Disclaimer

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,539
So West of Loathing is a game I'd not heard of before people mentioned it was confirmed for Switch.

I am baffled by the reviews. This game looks like early Newgrounds Macromedia-era Flash garbage.

Is it really that good? Should I buy it?

Any word on West of Loathing or Milanoir? Both look awesome.

I've played a couple hours of West of Loathing, and it's an astonishingly well-constructed, well-written, and deceptively deep game for its $11 pricepoint.

It has classic turn-based combat along with CRPG stat/build customization, meaningful in-game choices with different outcomes, and three completely different classes all (seemingly, in my limited experience) contributing to player creativity and replayability.

One of the best things about it is how good its writing is—it's a legitimately funny game that'll constantly make you laugh out loud.

Also, its performance on the Switch is flawless so far, so no porting errors to worry about.
 

Opa-Pa

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,810
So turns out Just Shapes & Beats is fucking amazing. I finished the first "world" just now and I've been constantly grinning playing every stage, that boss just now was incredible.

It really is absurd that Yoku, Ikaruga and this released the same week and yet we get posts and threads about how the Switch has no interesting games this year.
For those actively following the indie scene, 'West of Loathing' was one of the most important indie releases in 2017, and a TOP 10 amongst all the indie games released in this year.

- It obtained a Recommended mention in Rock Paper Shotgun, one of the most illustrious webs covering the indie scene. And this is an achievement that only a few titles have obtained in the history of the web.

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- It was a finalist in the IGF Awards (the MOST important and INFLUENTIAL video game festival), for the main and most important prize, the Seumas McNally Grand Prize.

- It appeared in some of the most important Game of the Year 2017 lists. To name a few, it obtained the Best Comedy Game award in PC Gamer, and it appeared in the TOP 50 best games of Polygon in the number 16.

- This is always subjective, but in my opinion and for my personal taste, it has one of the most impressive artistic designs seen in a contemporary game.
Interesting. I think I'm recalling hearing a close friend recommend this to me, saying it was hilarious and genuinely fun all the time. I might have to keep an eye on it.
 

borghe

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,112
Immediately after posting that I saw a few reviews that were raving about West of Loathing.. so I impulse bought it.

Only 20 or so minutes into it but the game is kind of brilliant. The art style is simple but incredibly effective and the writing is well done and funny without attempting to be too dry/clever/whatever.

Games like this are why I became a gamer (granted these are what games looked like 35 years ago anyway hahahahaha)
 

Zonic

Member
Oct 25, 2017
33,487
PSA!!

So it seems that Switch is indeed the worst platfirm for fighting game fans, and not just because of the lack of D-Pad on the JoyCons.
As a fighting game fan, unless you specifically get a stick (which I don't think there's a lot of at the moment), I don't think I'd want to play them on Switch because of these two main reasons, plus I'm just so used to using a PS controller because that's what I grew up with. For some reason, Nintendo controllers don't tend to work well for fighting games unless it's the SNES controller for old 2D fighters or something like Smash Bros where it's not a full-on 2D/2.5D fighting game. I don't even recall a lot of fighting games on N64, but I don't think that controller would work well. The Wii Pro controller KIND OF worked when playing Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom, but it wasn't ideal, despite it sadly being one of the better options considering it was the Wii.

But the fact the online isn't as good as it should be pretty much cements that excluding Smash because it's Smash, I'll be getting my fighting games else where.
 
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Opa-Pa

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,810
That's a real bummer about fighting games on Switch, it didn't cross my mind how much the lack of an ethernet port could impact these games.

Personally fighters are the one genre I have 0 interest in playing on Switch... Outside of Smash, but then again Smash 3DS was surprisingly decent online.
So has any bought Just Shapes and Beats yet? Had my eye on it looks excellent
Yes, it's fantastic so far.
 

1upsuper

Member
Jan 30, 2018
5,489
I have an adapter to use my Hori stick on Switch (thanks, HHB) so I got Street Fighter on Switch rather than PS4. It's a great collection. Haven't played online yet since I'm super rusty.
 

HotHamBoy

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
16,423
As a fighting game fan, unless you specifically get a stick (which I don't think there's a lot of at the moment), I don't think I'd want to play them on Switch because of these two main reasons, plus I'm just so used to using a PS controller because that's what I grew up with. For some reason, Nintendo controllers don't tend to work well for fighting games unless it's the SNES controller for old 2D fighters or something like Smash Bros where it's not a full-on 2D/2.5D fighting game. I don't even recall a lot of fighting games on N64, but I don't think that controller would work well. The Wii Pro controller KIND OF worked when playing Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom, but it wasn't ideal, despite it sadly being one of the better options considering it was the Wii.

But the fact the online isn't as good as it should be pretty much cements that excluding Smash because it's Smash, I'll be getting my fighting games else where.
Friend, you need a Magic-NS adapter!
I have an adapter to use my Hori stick on Switch (thanks, HHB) so I got Street Fighter on Switch rather than PS4. It's a great collection. Haven't played online yet since I'm super rusty.

You mean this adapter? ;)
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For a mere $20 you can use all your current and last gen controllers on Nintendo Switch (and PC, Android) wired OR wireless and with no lag!

Support includes PS4 (w/ gyro & rumble support!), PS3, XB1, 360, Wii U Pro, Wii/SNES/NES Mini Classic Controllers via Wii Remote and USB HID controllers!

I use my HRAP4 arcade stick (wired) and my MadCatz Tatsunoko vs Capcom stick (wireless via Wii Remote since it's a Classic Controller)

I haven't tested it but I think the Game Cube > Wii U USB adapter should work, too

Best $20 accessory you can buy for your Switch. Grab the Hori Compact Playstand for another $13 so you can easily use the converter in tabletop mode with the included USB C converter cable. Portable arcade!

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As a side note, that Tatsunoko vs Capcom stick works perfectly with the SNES Classic Mini, no adapter required!

They used to get as cheap as $30 on Amazon but now they're like $100+ everywhere. $80 was MSRP, though, so it's not too bad.

There's also a Madcatz Wii U Tekken Tag TE stick that I got for new $60, normally $150. I ended up selling it because I never used it and now I'm kicking myself. Can't find one for less than $200.
 
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Diseased Yak

Member
Oct 25, 2017
83
Had to put my Switch down for a sec and rave about West of Loathing, so good! I remember when this hit on Steam but I didn't snag it, kinda glad I waited because it's a great Switch game.
 

Mudo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,115
Tennessee
Been playing Smoke and Sacrifice fir 2 hours now (undocked).
Impressions:

-Very pretty with calming eerie music
-It's a crafting survival game lol i had no idea. Reminds me of Don't Starve at times and also Crashlands
-Some stutter and slowdown in handheld mode. It could definitely perform better.
-Battles are simplistic so far but are fine
-Crafting I'm not far in but so far you gather recipes and then can craft the item. Sone require you to use a device in order to craft (i.e. a cooking pot)
-Story is sorta fucked up but again i'm not far in

Overall I'm enjoying it but will need to play more to see how much it builds on this base. It will eventually get boring if these are most of the game mechanics involved - I have a feeling it will progress.
 

gogojira

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,906
I'd heard a lot about West of Loathing so I finally picked it up on Switch. Very early on but seems really damn good so far. The humor is fantastic, and I say that as someone who typically fines videogame humor pretty garbage. Anyways, seems like a good buy at $11.
 

HotHamBoy

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
16,423
Been playing Smoke and Sacrifice fir 2 hours now (undocked).
Impressions:

-Very pretty with calming eerie music
-It's a crafting survival game lol i had no idea. Reminds me of Don't Starve at times and also Crashlands
-Some stutter and slowdown in handheld mode. It could definitely perform better.
-Battles are simplistic so far but are fine
-Crafting I'm not far in but so far you gather recipes and then can craft the item. Sone require you to use a device in order to craft (i.e. a cooking pot)
-Story is sorta fucked up but again i'm not far in

Overall I'm enjoying it but will need to play more to see how much it builds on this base. It will eventually get boring if these are most of the game mechanics involved - I have a feeling it will progress.
I was really interested in the game until I learned how much of it is crafting-based survival.

That's not really something I'm into but I'm willing to check it out if there's a sale.

I've decided that my only other purchase this week will be Loathing (got Yoku Tuesday).

I have to start reigning in my spending, there's too many good games.
 

Vade

Member
Oct 26, 2017
295
Just shapes and beats has been one of my favorite games at pax the last few years. I thought it would never come out yet here it is! It's everything I wanted from the 3 song demo. If you can play couch coop, do it! You'll laugh cry yell and flat out have fun. I've barely played the single player but the art style has some real flair. If you love chip tune music, you'll love this game. Must buy!
 

awake4ages

Neo•Geo Saver
Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,071
Really wanna play West of Loathing at some point. I played a ton of Kingdom of Loathing back in middle school.
 

Mudo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,115
Tennessee
I was really interested in the game until I learned how much of it is crafting-based survival.

That's not really something I'm into but I'm willing to check it out if there's a sale.

I've decided that my only other purchase this week will be Loathing (got Yoku Tuesday).

I have to start reigning in my spending, there's too many good games.

TOO DAMN MANY. I haven't even turned Yoku on and I'm excited to play it. Buying 1-5 Switch games every single week is creating a gigantic backlog I'm not complaining but also keeping up with Steam (OMG) and PS4/XBOX and it's all just craziness.
 

HotHamBoy

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
16,423
Kadobat Wars is a weird little budget title releasing June 7 in NA for the fascinating pricepoint of $3.89



From what i can gather from the video above and the apparently machine-translated Engrish, it's a card game with a battle system that seems similar to Mavenfall.

Kadobat Wars:
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Mavenfall:
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Mavenfall was a pretty decent mobile CCG that died about a year ago.

The basic idea is that each character has their own set of cards that you build a deck out of, and then you build a party out of those characters. The cards in your hand are mix of those character cards and each character is a deck you draw from.

Some differences here seem to be that Kadobat is real-time (active-time?) and you can swap character positions on the fly.

Could be an interesting title to keep an eye out for, especially since Switch is light on card games.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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I saw a number of questions about PixelJunk Monsters 2 near the end of the May thread but didn't have the chance to answer right then. I've only cleared about half of the game, filling out perfect runs in the medium difficulty (Tricky) as I go, and the Switch base seems fairly small so far judging by my position on the leaderboards. It's a lightweight game on the surface, and people who expected a bigger and flashier PJM1 don't seem too happy with it in the OT (mainly due to changes to co-op and the camera that are due for an upcoming patch), but it tries a good number of new ideas that haven't been properly developed before in the TD genre, and while not all of these ideas are polished, for once this is a TD game that thinks outside the box of everything that the customs scene in Blizzard's RTS titles already did better ages ago and offers something distinctly new. Simple, perhaps, with ample room for further refinement—but new.

The single-stage demo offers an adequate picture of how it looks and controls but only gives you the most basic towers (you get a slightly wider selection right from the first stage in the full game, though not an incredibly varied one) and doesn't show you what kind of challenges or skill development the game engine makes possible. On the surface it might seem a little bare-bones or style-over-substance, but once you push yourself to play cleanly (which is enough to get you into the upper rungs of the online scoreboard, as it currently stands) you'll find that it requires a different mindset than most other TDs, and the more open-minded you are about understanding what the game is doing and working around it, the more fun you will have.

Quoting an excerpt of what I wrote in the OT:

With any commercially sold TDs the question for me is usually whether they add anything to the design space of the genre that I haven't already seen better executed in WC3/TFT or StarCraft II, and the answer is usually no. So I'm pleased to report that PJM2's platformer-like 3D terrain with full physics simulation makes a substantial contribution to the genre beyond what the Blizzard RTS engines or later touch-based games for Flash/mobile could handle, indeed such an important contribution that Dylan Cuthbert and the crew at Q-Games are seriously underselling it as a cosmetic or graphical thing, and I wonder whether they fully understand the implications themselves. Certainly some of the systems feel a bit unpolished and undercooked, and by traditional metrics this is a rather slim experience (not much build diversity and no real tech choices in the upgrade paths, compared to a series that excels at that sort of thing like Kingdom Rush), but the combination of the terrain, elevation, and physics has huge ramifications that scream to be further explored, and which you can already explore right now as you chase high scores and tidy up your play.

Ask yourself: how does one get better at this game? What's (in Sid Meier's terms) the "interesting decision"? Most TDs are about reading types, weaknesses, damage numbers, and so on, and budgeting around the balance of coverage versus power (building wide versus building tall), often while building minimally or inviting risk to save money or accumulate interest. There is some of that here, of course. But more than anything else, PJM2 is a game about knowing where to stand. And every major design consideration works in service of that: the speed and pacing, the penalties for collisions or falling in water, the lack of auto-loot, everything. Do you dance around a tower to upgrade it, or do you stand downslope to catch coins and currency before they roll down the hill and off a cliff? Do you build safely to shoot down aerial waves over water, or do you let them fly overland so you can loot the spoils? If you build in the back line to broaden your coverage and catch leaks, do you have a quick and consistent platforming shortcut to move back and forth and loot both ends of your setup? Do you run into the mix and loot some urgent cash while monsters are still on the path and there is a risk of getting bumped, or do you work on something else until they clear out? Do you build inwards at a high elevation or right along the path? So many of these are questions I haven't asked myself in a TD before, at least not to the same extent, and they all make PJM2 look not like the second game of an established series but the first, experimental, somewhat uneven debut of something totally new. It's underdeveloped but undeniably fresh, and we should pay it the courtesy of judging it by its own standards.
 

Slam Tilt

Member
Jan 16, 2018
5,585
After a slow few months, last month was absolutely savage with releases. To the point I was even kind of annoyed lol
Fasten your seat belt, because I think it's going to get even wilder for the rest of the year. My hands are already itching to buy more games even before I've made a dent in the ones I already have...
 
Nov 4, 2017
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Thanks so much for the time and effort you put into these threads, OP. I feel very well informed about what's going on for the platform.

To be honest it's a bit lack lustre month for me, but that's probably for the best as I'll be immersed in Dark Souls Remastered for the month. That double coins pre-order bonus for Aces sounds tempting though, as this works out to $8 worth of coins for me, which I can put towards the Mario +Rabbids DLC.
 

100mega

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,160
While the eShop has quickly become home to a fantastic library of games, I can't help but fear what it might become when I see stuff like this make it on to the shop. Hopefully they see what a dumpster fire Steam has become and steer clear. Does Nintendo have any standards for stuff being published in NA? I suppose it's possible this game is localized to some extent, but you wouldn't think so from the screenshots!

https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/pure-electric-love-what-do-you-want-eri-kitami-switch

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I came to this thread when I saw this on the eshop today. I'm glad someone noticed how weird this is. Never thought I'd see a game for sale that mentions "bondage" in the description on the eshop. And what a description that is...
 

NervousXtian

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Oct 27, 2017
2,503
I've been eyeing WoL on steam for awhile. But wasn't sure how it'd feel to play. It's good. Plays better than it looks... The art style works.

Buy it
 

Opa-Pa

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,810
Yeah that's just one extremely silly song that's purposely "less cool" looking than what the game usually offers.

The actual trailer is a better representation
 

wesman

Member
Oct 30, 2017
1,203
Pittsburgh
So West of Loathing is a game I'd not heard of before people mentioned it was confirmed for Switch.

I am baffled by the reviews. This game looks like early Newgrounds Macromedia-era Flash garbage.

Is it really that good? Should I buy it?


So 10% off basically. That's $6, not bad. Almost enough for an ACA game!

I've played maybe 30 minutes or so, and didn't find anything funny. Every review I've read stated how absurdly funny the game is, so with that said, I'd temper expectations. It feels like a point and click adventure as much as anything, to me, so far.
 

Nelo Ice

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,446
Picked up Pocket Card Jockey with the My Nintendo discount. What have I done?!. This game is insanely fun and addictive. I've only lost 1 race out of like 7 so far.