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J_Viper

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Oct 25, 2017
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Does Legion S2 manage to be even more obnoxious than the first? I dropped it four episodes in.
 
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Jaume Collet Serra Teams With Mediapro, Federation on New Crime Series
The project marks a move into series by Collet Serra and his L.A.-based Ombra Films. Collet Serra's movies, including Liam Neeson thrillers "Unknown," "Non-Stop" and "The Commuter,"
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Ryan Engle, a writer on "Non-Stop," Collet Serra's biggest hit to date with $222.8 million in global revenue, is writing the new eight-episode drama. It will start shooting next year.

The new series centers on a young woman's disappearance on the party island of Ibiza. A mysterious American man lays the groundwork to infiltrate the island's underworld and find the people responsible.

'Doctor Who' Writer Russell T. Davies to Pen BBC Family Drama 'Years and Years'
The show will follow the lives of a single family, the Lyons, over 15 years in a Britain rocked by political change and economic and technological advances. "When their lives all converge on one crucial night in 2019, the story accelerates into the future, following the lives and loves of the Lyons over the next 15 years," the producers said.

In a near future in which Britain has left the EU, America is isolationist, and China increasingly powerful, the story also takes in the rise to power of Vivienne Rook, a new breed of politician, entertainer, and rebel.
 

Zoe

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Oct 25, 2017
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That's because The Resident is incredibly awful and also showcases the worst medicine. Like it's purpose is to make doctors and hospitals look bad.
The last episode was actually pretty good. The (lead) doctors on the show are fine, it's the villains that are cartoonish with the exception of Bruce Greenwood's character.
 

Cornballer

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Keshet & HBO Turning 'Rise And Kill First' Into Limited TV Series On Mossad's Secret Assassination Missions
Israeli producer Keshet International has teamed with HBO to option the bestselling Ronen Bergman book Rise And Kill First: The Secret History Of Israel's Targeted Assassinations. The book is a definitive history of Israel's covert targeted killing programs of Mossad, Shin Bet and the IDF that have been a staple of Israeli intelligence since the beginning of its statehood in 1948.

The initial intention is for Keshet and HBO to create and co-produce a limited series that will be done in English language and shot in Israel. The hope is for annual reprises that focus on different missions. The book's title comes out of the Talmud: "If someone comes to kill you, rise up and kill him first." That has been a cornerstone principle in protecting Israelis from terrorists and much of that has come through targeted assassinations, many of them done preemptively to take out enemies and suicide bombers before they strike.
 
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berzeli

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Ar-... Are they going to glamorise extrajudicial killings? Unless they take the Munich route and make sure that there is at least some problematisation of the assassinations this will be the hardest pass in a while.

For a much less controversial anthology series:
Netflix Orders Dolly Parton Anthology Series Based On Her Songs
Netflix has greenlighted an eight-episode Dolly Parton anthology series, with each episode based on a song by her. In addition to serving as singer/songwriter, Parton will executive produce and will also appear in the series.
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The Netflix pact is similar to the agreement NBC inked with the country star three years ago for a series of standalone TV movies based on her "songs, stories and inspiring life," with an option for Parton to appear in them. That deal yielded the movie Coat Of Many Colors, watched by almost 16 million viewers, and its sequel, Christmas of Many Colors: Circle of Love. The films, also from Dixie Pixie Productions, Magnolia Hill Entertainment and WBTV, aired as NBC holiday specials in 2015 band 2016, respectively.
 

thediamondage

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Oct 25, 2017
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Season 2 makes season 1 look like The Wire. It's way less creative, wastes the supporting cast and has even less plot. It's been excruciating to watch.

Damn as someone who binged s1 a while after it aired and hasn't watched S2 yet thats tough to hear. I think the show definitely works better as a binge watch, I imagine week to week the cliffhangers and open ends could be frustrating.

Westworld as well works better as a binge watch I think and I've watched every episode week to week but it can be so bad sometimes but so good sometimes.

I can honestly only think of 3-4 shows (Mad Men, few others) that don't work better as binge watches, I imagine in 10-15 years every drama show will drop all its episodes all at once on whatever platform its on. The experiment Angie Tribeca did a few years ago where it broadcast its entire first season over a single day was pretty interesting too.
 

J_Viper

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Oct 25, 2017
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Season 2 makes season 1 look like The Wire. It's way less creative, wastes the supporting cast and has even less plot. It's been excruciating to watch.
Man I already don't care for the supporting cast in S1 lol

That try hard music video bit at the end of S1E04 is the lamest shit I've seen in a while, and I'm currently catching up on SHIELD

My dad really likes it so I'm trying to power through it, but it's been rough so far, and I really liked Fargo!
 

TDLink

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Oct 25, 2017
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I agree with Dead Souls on this one. Legion completely lost me this season. I dropped it 3 episodes in. Went way too much in the direction of being weird for weird's sake with barely any forward momentum around a fairly basic plot. From a production standpoint it looks good, but it's basically nonsense.
 

DanGo

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Ar-... Are they going to glamorise extrajudicial killings? Unless they take the Munich route and make sure that there is at least some problematisation of the assassinations this will be the hardest pass in a while.
Yeah... Keshet... and they want to shoot in Israel? I think this'll definitely lean towards glamorization which, ugh.
 

RatskyWatsky

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Oct 25, 2017
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yes

I imagine in 10-15 years every drama show will drop all its episodes all at once on whatever platform its on.

I don't know about that...even Netflix is shifting away from the "every episode at once" method for all of their shows. They have quite a few weekly shows now and more and more of their shows are getting split seasons.
 
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I think the better strategy, assuming you are operating with *monthly* subs is to spread out your episodes so people have a reason to at least keep your sub for 3-4 months.
 

J_Viper

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Three episodes in and The Expanse is starting to click with me.

The production values are slick, the plot is coming together, and even the characters are starting to become interesting. The "moon talk" is still embarrassing, but it doesn't come up often enough to ruin the show. I'm glad it got renewed.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Darn sad Netflix is doing the shows releasing on DVD only thing, thought theyd at least be more modern with releases for BDs. [voltron] Though at least this means I dont need to buy netflix
 

ZeroX

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah it seemed pretty obvious with how TV production works and how things capture the public attention that shows being gone for 12+ months wasn't the best for Netflix. Creators generally didn't seem to like it either.

Netflix will keep playing around until it finds a sweet spot in releasing episodes or split seasons.
 

Slayven

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah it seemed pretty obvious with how TV production works and how things capture the public attention that shows being gone for 12+ months wasn't the best for Netflix. Creators generally didn't seem to like it either.

Netflix will keep playing around until it finds a sweet spot in releasing episodes or split seasons.
The 3-4 months on network be killing me
 

TheIlliterati

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Oct 28, 2017
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I think a good model would honestly be a 4 episode, three months batch of a show at a time. You get maybe three mini arcs for your drama shows and if they're good, people will buzz about them for three months in a a row. Then people might hop on after the first month thinking they only have a few eps to catch up on.
 

SeanM

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Oct 26, 2017
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The Netflix split season model sucks so far cause it doesn't seem like it was planned out and was just something decided after the season was already shot.

Usually there's a mid-season finale / cliffhanger type thing but Arrested Development S5A just kind of ends and you're like "that's it?"

And with Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt Season 4A it has six half-hour episodes so you'll breeze through it in just three hours and then have an eight month break for the next three hours (Season 4B returns January 25, 2019).
 

Slayven

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I was looking up when Always Sunny would be back, it was suppose to be back late 2019. Think it might come back quicker now that Dee is free?
 

dead souls

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I think a good model would honestly be a 4 episode, three months batch of a show at a time. You get maybe three mini arcs for your drama shows and if they're good, people will buzz about them for three months in a a row. Then people might hop on after the first month thinking they only have a few eps to catch up on.

That would be great.

I was thrilled that they split up the seasons of Kimmy Schmidt and Arrested Development.
 

ZeroX

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Oct 25, 2017
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I was looking up when Always Sunny would be back, it was suppose to be back late 2019. Think it might come back quicker now that Dee is free?
They're already shooting now, they do it in the off-season for the actors who have TV show commitments. It definitely won't be late 2019 though, it should be finished shooting pretty soon. Late 2018 or early 2019.
 

Curler

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Oct 26, 2017
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The Netflix split season model sucks so far cause it doesn't seem like it was planned out and was just something decided after the season was already shot.

Usually there's a mid-season finale / cliffhanger type thing but Arrested Development S5A just kind of ends and you're like "that's it?"

And with Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt Season 4A it has six half-hour episodes so you'll breeze through it in just three hours and then have an eight month break for the next three hours (Season 4B returns January 25, 2019).

I simultaneously love and hate it. I love how I can just go through it quickly, mark off a 'season' as "done", and then move onto to another series I need to get through. At the same time, there is the "that's it?" with it.

I also wonder how some of these shows are/will be released on video when they come out? I mean, now that they call a show 'season 5' and 'season 6' separately, but technically it's ONE season.
 
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I wasn't impressed by the Succession pilot. Another show about a dysfunctional rich family. I'll give it another episode before I drop it.
 

G_Shumi

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Oct 26, 2017
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The Netflix model lately of releasing seasons in half is okay. I think I did like the original way even if watching an entire season did feel overwhelming. But if a show is good enough then it's an easier pill to swallow. The split model, while fine, is a bit weird when you finish one of the halves. What's even weirder is if you just wait for the second half to air so you can watch it all at once anyway but I don't think anyone does that.
 

kurahador

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Oct 28, 2017
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Three episodes in and The Expanse is starting to click with me.

The production values are slick, the plot is coming together, and even the characters are starting to become interesting. The "moon talk" is still embarrassing, but it doesn't come up often enough to ruin the show. I'm glad it got renewed.
The plot doesn't really come together until eps 8. I thought the series was just ok until then. Eps 9 onwards though, oh boy...
 

Slayven

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Oct 25, 2017
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Cloak and Dagger reviews are actually a lot better than I thought they would be
 

Chitown B

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Nov 15, 2017
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Okay, well... Saw this over on US PoliERA. Surprised no-one's posted it here yet?

Report: ABC Considering 'Roseanne' Reboot Centered Around Sara Gilbert


Not linking to TMZ, because urgh-gross. I'd absolutely watch a Darlene-centred Roseanne. Roseanne herself I always felt was the weakest link in the show - the most one-dimensional, unnuanced of all the characters (maybe even including DJ, there).

Same. My favorite character has always been Dan. I was so happen to see Goodman as Dan again.
 
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