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Which will you throw in the PC Storage first?

  • Pikachu

    Votes: 590 16.2%
  • Eevee

    Votes: 571 15.7%
  • Your hopes and dreams

    Votes: 2,083 57.4%
  • Jmon

    Votes: 387 10.7%

  • Total voters
    3,631

ILikeFeet

DF Deet Master
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Oct 25, 2017
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Sorry have been out of the loop for the last couple days so this may have been answered already, has there been actual confirmation that post gen 1 evolutions of gen 1 Pokemon are out?
Yes

Also, guys there wont be any more ultra beasts. They're just a plot-related name for pokemon from another dimension. Unless Gen 8 continues the ultra wormhole plotline, there isnt gonna be a dedicated "ultra beast" category going forward
 

Atheerios

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Oct 27, 2017
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However, this would be a Generation 7 Pokémon, not a Gen 8 one
Nah, you can't decide from which generation it is by using your abrtitrary rules. You don't decide, GAME Freak does.

They can add a new Pokémon in Let's Go and then consider it native from the next region, part of that regional Dex and displayed on the Bank's National Dex as part of Gan 8.
 

lvl 99 Pixel

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Oct 25, 2017
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it doesn't get more phoned in than multiverse plots with bizarro versions of past villains. I hope that stuff is just a one off.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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UB Missino
Nightmares forever.
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Serebii

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Oct 24, 2017
13,128
Nah, you can't decide from which generation it is by using your abrtitrary rules. You don't decide, GAME Freak does.

They can add a new Pokémon in Let's Go and then consider it native from the next region, part of that regional Dex and displayed on the Bank's National Dex as part of Gan 8.
So your arbitrary rules here then.

It's a Gen 7 Pokémon game. It's a Gen 7 Pokémon
 

Firestorm

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,709
Vancouver, BC
So your arbitrary rules here then.

It's a Gen 7 Pokémon game. It's a Gen 7 Pokémon
I can't tell if this is serious. Atheerios is right. Whatever regional dex it's part of is what it'll be considered a part of as far as the fan term "generation" goes. Manaphy isn't Gen 3 just because Ranger came out before Diamond/Pearl which you mentioned yourself...
 

Deleted member 2340

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Oct 25, 2017
4,661
Hey y'all let's speculate what the brand new Pokémon is!
Mythical
Evolution of a Kanto Pokemon?
Completely normal new Pokémon?

I wished it was leaked lol


I hope it isn't a Mythical or Legendary as I find those to be so freaking boring and useless. Who really gets excited for a Mythical/Legendary? Nothing more than box fodder.


I really hope it'll be a Pokémon from gen 8 like a new Eeveelution. I think the Pikachu and Eevee are going to be available in both versions.

Best case you would be able to catch Wild Pikachu and Eevee in Viridian Forest or get one from the building in Celadon like you got Eevee in Pokémon Yellow.
 

DecoReturns

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Oct 27, 2017
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I have a feeling a lot of people might change their picks when more is revealed about the starters, and version exclusives.
i kinda don't see that honestly. I used to do that but once online trading became a thing, version exclusives never mattered to me personally.

As for Starters in this case. I'm just gonna pick my favorite. Doesn't whatever they announce later
 

Serebii

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Oct 24, 2017
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I can't tell if this is serious. Atheerios is right. Whatever regional dex it's part of is what it'll be considered a part of as far as the fan term "generation" goes. Manaphy isn't Gen 3 just because Ranger came out before Diamond/Pearl which you mentioned yourself...
So if it's part of the Kanto Dex, you're going to class it as Gen 1.

Manaphy isn't Gen 3 because Ranger isn't a core game.

Also, generation isn't a fan concept
 

Deleted member 35011

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I go back and forth on the Ultra Beasts. They look cool, but they also(intentionally) look radically different from normal Pokemon, and how I feel about that changes day to day. Sometimes I'm like "Hell yeah, it adds to their uniqueness!" and sometimes I'm like "Ehhh they take me out of the game."

I think I'd like them more if they were named something other than Pokemon, like I love the concept of a different type of creature that just happens to be similar enough to Pokemon that can be caught...which I know is sort of what they are, but if they were called as such I'd probably like them more consistently.

Alternatively, if they were named anything but Ultra Beast I'd like them a lot more :P
 

Slamtastic

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Oct 26, 2017
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The problem with Ultra Beasts is the name Ultra Beasts and the lore surrounding them, because they are the same as Pokémon in every way and don't need to be hyped up as special.

There just legendary Pokémon with particularly good designs.
 

Deleted member 35011

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It would be neat if you needed like special Pokeballs to catch them, but I guess gameplay balance wise that wouldn't fly.
 

Heitzu

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Oct 28, 2017
19
I'm mostly looking forward to these but wish they'd included later evolutions from gens 2 and 4.

It would make the total 182 if I've not missed any, add the I believe 6 dark types from Johto to help balance Kanto's lack of dark types would make it 188 total Pokemon in the Pokédex.

The main issue that bothers me though is that they're adding Alolan forms which had they been created in an earlier generation would have been a split evolution like Poliwhirl into Poliwrath or Politoad and Slowpoke into either Slowbro or Slowking. So instead of being able to get a Slowking, I can get an Alolan version of Exeggutor because it wasn't giving a unique Dex number. I'll still enjoy the games but it just seems stupid to me.
 

Xita

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Oct 27, 2017
9,185
I would love Ultra Beasts 1000 times more if they weren't Pokemon and were boss monsters.

Also doesn't help that UBs were pretty poorly developed in SMs plot.
 

Deleted member 17491

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I'm mostly looking forward to these but wish they'd included later evolutions from gens 2 and 4.

It would make the total 182 if I've not missed any, add the I believe 6 dark types from Johto to help balance Kanto's lack of dark types would make it 188 total Pokemon in the Pokédex.

The main issue that bothers me though is that they're adding Alolan forms which had they been created in an earlier generation would have been a split evolution like Poliwhirl into Poliwrath or Politoad and Slowpoke into either Slowbro or Slowking. So instead of being able to get a Slowking, I can get an Alolan version of Exeggutor because it wasn't giving a unique Dex number. I'll still enjoy the games but it just seems stupid to me.
Alolan forms not having their own dex entries is a dumb decision imo, agreed that they should've been an alternative evolution line (where possible of course) instead.
 

pokéfan

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Oct 25, 2017
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So if it's part of the Kanto Dex, you're going to class it as Gen 1.

Manaphy isn't Gen 3 because Ranger isn't a core game.

Also, generation isn't a fan concept
I still disagree, this is likely a gen 8 Pokemon and the regional Pokedex in 2019 will tell us. Others are right, you can't just use your own abrtitrary rules.

We could say the same that it's a core game but not a tradition mainline RPG. See, grasping straws works both ways. We just have to wait and see where its stance is.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I still disagree, this is likely a gen 8 Pokemon and the regional Pokedex in 2019 will tell us. Others are right, you can't just use your own abrtitrary rules.

We could say the same that it's a core game but not a tradition mainline RPG. See, grasping straws works both ways. We just have to wait and see where its stance is.

I guess it depends on the pokedex number it will get.
If it's somewhere in the middle of then gen 8 dex it's definitely a gen 8 preview mon, if it's right after right after Zeraora it could still be either gen.
 

Serebii

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Oct 24, 2017
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I still disagree, this is likely a gen 8 Pokemon and the regional Pokedex in 2019 will tell us. Others are right, you can't just use your own abrtitrary rules.

We could say the same that it's a core game but not a tradition mainline RPG. See, grasping straws works both ways. We just have to wait and see where its stance is.
I'm not using my own arbitrary rules. I'm using Game Freak's
 

brinstar

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Oct 25, 2017
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Didn't they say it's a brand new Pokemon included in this game? That sounds like the same situation as the new mons in USUM to me, not Manaphy.
 

casey_contra

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Oct 27, 2017
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Seattle, WA
Regarding Ultra Beasts - I love 'em! I just hope
they are treated less mythically in future gens. Idk how it would work with the canon, but it would be cool to just find some of 'em in the wild.
 

Benzychenz

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Nov 1, 2017
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Australia
Didn't they say it's a brand new Pokemon included in this game? That sounds like the same situation as the new mons in USUM to me, not Manaphy.
Not really. It's just a new Pokemon being added to this game that only has the 151 Pokedex and no USUM compatibility, so come gen 8 they could slot it in at the end of the dex as the first gen 8 mythical (or at the start like they did with Victini).

The answer to whether it's a gen 7 or gen 8 pokemon is that we don't know, to claim otherwise is just being full of yourself for no good reason.
 

Vidiot

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Oct 27, 2017
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Anyone think the new Pokemon might be another legendary bird that's name ends with cuatro? Like Phycuartro or something.
 

Deleted member 25140

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The problem with Ultra Beasts is the name Ultra Beasts and the lore surrounding them, because they are the same as Pokémon in every way and don't need to be hyped up as special.

There just legendary Pokémon with particularly good designs.
I also wish they'd gone full out on giving the Ultra Beasts weird typings, I'm forever annoyed that Xurikitree is not Electric/Grass type for example. As a whole I love the concept though.
 

KillstealWolf

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Oct 27, 2017
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I feel the one extra would be a Bird ending in Cero, or MewZero or something. Will be listed at #000 (Victini is only #000 in the Unova dex, otherwise it's #494) and be the ultimate form of pandery pandering.
 

Benzychenz

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Nov 1, 2017
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It might not even have a new number and just be a new form of an existing Pokemon ala Alolan forms.
Like an alternate Mew or something.

Or maybe it's Venustoise.
 

Glio

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Oct 27, 2017
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I know it's offtopic, but don't you think theycould do a simple retcon and make Deoxys an Ultra Best?

I have always seen it as the ''seed'' of the UB (And it's supercool)