Hes an extraterrestrial from the main universe. Can we have one alien that's not from another dimension?
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Pokémon Let's Go Eevee/Pikachu (Switch) announced; coming Nov 16th 2018
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Hes an extraterrestrial from the main universe. Can we have one alien that's not from another dimension?
Im 25 and a Pokemon Addict. Ultra Space sounds like such a cool place tbh.
you're right, forgot those things existed. Still may or may not be.
I guess they liked the idea. Still seems to just be "people believe they might be" which is just Pokemon's scientists being typically incompetent to the point where they just use hearsay in their encyclopedias.
My solution is simple. Whenever we acquire the Gen 8 Pokémon wether through catching it or going through some event where it evolves into the new gen 8 Pokémon have the PokéDex say something like
"There is no available data on this Pokémon."
You can expand the entry by adding more info like "Though there may only be 151 known species of Pokémon discovered in the Kanto region this Pokémon may have originated in another (undiscovered) Region."
Then let's say if you have it in your party and following and you talk to Oak he can further hint it's not native to Kanto or that (if it's a evolution like a Eevee one) he can say there's still research being done trying to figure out how the Eeveelution in question is able evolve into that form normally in other regions but doesn't really in the Kanto region. If Game Freak is feeling generous (which they won't ) they could name drop the gen 8 region through Oak at this point.
I know it's not happening. I just had a what if moment when I remembered they've done this in the anime and anime movies. Yellow is based on the anime originally.
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You misunderstood me.
What I'm saying is that the new Pokemon released with LGPE will be Generation 7, not Generation 8, as it will be first discovered during a Gen 7 game.
I think I poorly explained myself. I got this idea from the anime which has some place in Pokémon Yellow which Let's Go is based off of.
My thinking was
We saw first saw Blaziken in the Johto league in the anime. Does that mean he's a gen 2 Pokémon?
What about the movie Pokémon shown before the new gen launches? I can't list them because I don't like the movies much and didn't watch them.
You can introduce a event for a gen 8 Pokémon and have no Data of it because it's not from the Kanto region and have someone like Oak saying it's from an unexplored region.
But seeing how Joe has went back and forth with Manaphy I doubt I'll be able to create a senerio where it's a gen 8 Pokémon that the player had early access to.
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Slandering one of my favorite legendaries with that rubbish, smh
The anime is irrelevant to this.
I didn't go back and forth with Manaphy either. All I said is that technically you got the event for it before Diamond & Pearl. It was the same with Magearna too
A Pokémon is part of the generation from which the first mainline game it is available in. Therefore this Pokémon will be from Generation 7.
You don't decide that rule. Game Freak does. They can introduce the Pokémon on LG without it having a National Dex number (displayed as ???) and then it being at the usual mythical dex placement in Gen 8.
Seems like you haven't learned a thing from your "New Pokémon = New gen" tweet.
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Yeah, that's why I said "in a Gen 7 game".
The anime doesn't matter, Ho-Oh was first introduced in a Gen 2 game, no one considers it part of Gen 1 because it appeared in the first episode of the anime.
If it appears at the end of the Gen 8 Pokedex, I'll consider it part of Gen 8.
If its appears just after Zeraora, it's Gen 7.
You're clutching at straws here
And, at that point in time, that tweet was accurate. Yet now we've proven otherwise with USUM but people are jumping that this new Pokémon means new generation. So the fact you're throwing that tweet at me is hilarious when you're literally doing that right now.
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Does it super matter whether a Pokemon is gen 7 or 8? Like not trolling, just confused at the discussion here. Does that impact the metagame or something?
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Not really, the pokémon fanbase will fight over every little detail.
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I know, I'm just saying that if it appears after Zeraora that doesn't mean it can't be a Gen 8 Pokémon if they pull a Victini.
Really. The anime doesn't apply here yet Game Freak releases a gen 1 game loosely based off of it and we're getting a remake of it in November.
If Game Freak releases a Pokémon in the Let's Go games and says the Pokémon is gen 8 guess what. The Pokémon is gen 8. There are no rules and I would've thought that sticking to the pattern mindset would have disappeared with how Sun/Moon and the Ultras played out.
Like the other user said. All Game Freak has to do is put ??? In the PokéDex for it and have some NPC say it's from some far off region and he wonders how it got here. It doesn't need to be a Mythical or a Legendary or special. It could be the route one bird for all I care.
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But it's a new style of game and they can do whatever they want really.
The fact that you're adamantly saying everything in gen 7 is really weird because you're not basing it off anything other than your own smugness and sense of superiority.
Yes, the way that the anime, a marketing tool for the games, marketed something ahead of a game launch is bloody irrelevant to the inclusion of a Pokémon into a main line Pokémon game.
Or maybe I'm basing it on something else. Rather than go in for an attack why don't you consider that?
I don't think you can categorize this game into any Gen. I think it is its' own thing kind of.
But this is unlike anything else so there's nothing to base it on.
There's absolutely no reason to say it's definitely gen 7, there's absolutely no reason to say it's definitely gen 8.
It's just a big question mark until Game Freak says otherwise and that's ok.
can I transfer my older pokemon
can I use non alola form gen 7 Pokémon
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can I use non alola form gen 7 Pokémon
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YO!!! Fam!!! You just made my bloody bleeding or whatever it is you say in your land point!!!
THE ANIME IS A MARKETING TOOL, THIS GAME IS LOOSELY BASED OFF OF THE ANIME!!
Casuals are coming in droves for the Let's Go games! (Atleast Game Freak Hopes) what better way to market and do something new!?!?
Also if you know something and it's sharable share it. If you can't don't vaguely hint at knowing something. It's frustrating talking to someone when all the info isn't out in the open.
Can we call it a Gen 1 Let's Go new Pokémon?
I mean, the Let's Go series is a totally different thing, apart from the generational leap from the main games, which makes this discussion rather irrelevant.
With this I'm not saying the Let's Go games are spin-offs. They are just another mainline series of games from Gamefreak.
I mean, the Let's Go series is a totally different thing, apart from the generational leap from the main games, which makes this discussion rather irrelevant.
With this I'm not saying the Let's Go games are spin-offs. They are just another mainline series of games from Gamefreak.
Another mainline series of games with no continuity with the rest of the mainline series. Seems legit.
But the anime showing stuff early is in no way comparable to a Pokémon being in a bloody main series game
So it's Bloody? Cool, learned something new.
It's a good marketing tool.
This game is aim at the casuals but Game Freak would love it if those casuals went in on next years games. What better way to market it then to put a Pokémon from that region in their hands? Not a dumbass legendary but just a new regular Pokémon. Have some NPC talk about that Pokémon while hinting at its home region.
Not all the casuals who is going to buy the Let's Go games watch the anime or even know the anime movies exists. I see the Let's Go games as a Trojan Horse.
Anyway, didn't mean to be rude and I know there's no chance of this happening.
Lol everyone ignoring this instead for a gen debate. We're gonna get a huge amount of info from this.
I just thought it was pretty obvious they would do this. It's nice seeing it confirmed though.
In a sense each gen kinda have their own mascot
Gen 1 - Pikachu and Eevee
Gen 2 - Togepi and Jigglypuff just for laughs
Gen 3 - None
Gen 4 - Lucario
Gen 5 - Zoroark
Gen 6 - None
Gen 7 - Rockruff
Not that it matters AT ALL, but since we are all clearly taking it to heart, here is how I see it.
Beginning of Gen 1 is Red/Green: first region, first starters
Beginning of Gen 2 is G/S: new region, new starters
Beginning of Gen 3 is R/S: new region, new starters
Beginning of Gen 4 is D/P: new region, new starters
Beginning of Gen 5 is B/W: new region, new starters
Beginning of Gen 6 is X/Y: new region, new starters
Beginning of Gen 7 is SuMo: new region, new starters
Based on that, until now, with no other example to pull from, I get two conclusions:
1/ If a game is released between the beginning of generation A and the beginning of generation B, it belongs to generation A, even for spin-off games.
2/ Gen 8 will probably start with a new region and new starters. Based on nothing but the previous 7 generations.
Hope it clarifies my view, you don't have to agree.
As I said earlier, Pokemon belong to the generation of the first game they appeared in.
Beginning of Gen 1 is Red/Green: first region, first starters
Beginning of Gen 2 is G/S: new region, new starters
Beginning of Gen 3 is R/S: new region, new starters
Beginning of Gen 4 is D/P: new region, new starters
Beginning of Gen 5 is B/W: new region, new starters
Beginning of Gen 6 is X/Y: new region, new starters
Beginning of Gen 7 is SuMo: new region, new starters
Based on that, until now, with no other example to pull from, I get two conclusions:
1/ If a game is released between the beginning of generation A and the beginning of generation B, it belongs to generation A, even for spin-off games.
2/ Gen 8 will probably start with a new region and new starters. Based on nothing but the previous 7 generations.
Hope it clarifies my view, you don't have to agree.
As I said earlier, Pokemon belong to the generation of the first game they appeared in.
There's nothing wrong with your view.
I feel that 1 imposes a unnecessary rule on you but that can be debated if Game Freak ever decides to do something different or new in between generations. I'm more flexible with how I see it.
Sorta late to replying this (been playing a ton of Pokemon Go, walking about 20 KM will make you sleep early lol), but honestly I'd be very cool with a new legendary Pokemon now a days. Lately, I feel like gamefreak has finally started to consistently nail them competitively!
In the past, discounting the boxart legendaries (more on that in a bit), I feel like you're right: most legendaries aren't very good Pokemon. In gen 1, you got Zapdos who was good, but Moltres and Articuno had pretty awful typings. I'd say the 3 GSC beasts are sorta good now a days, but Entei and Raikou are pretty niche picks, and Suicune is basically an alternative bulky water. I should note though that Raikou has been pretty good in the past.
Then you got the Regis, aka the most screwed up trio ever. So they're supposed to be bulky right? OK lets give two of them among the WORST defensive typings in the game then! (Regirock and Regice). Registeel had potential, hell I actually used it in gen 4 Ubers for a bit, but its movepool sucks so much that I realized there were better Steel-types to be using. Also yes, I know Regice was OU in ADV.
Gen 4 is where I feel gamefreak started to actually try to make legendaries good at specfic things. Now, the pixie trio isn't really that special (Azelf is basically just a suicide lead, Mespirit is lame, and Uxie is a Memento + Dual Screens and Yawn spammer), and of course Regigigas is notoriously bad (I DID get top in the US with it in Festive Feud back in gen 6, but that's another stramge story rofl), but Heatran and Cresselia are excellent and unique Pokemon. Heatran has that godly typing with a good ability to compliment it, that also gives it reasonable weaknesses. Cresselia has Arceus level bulk and some damn good support moves for doubles, and it can be reasonable in battle spot singles (it was huge last gen, but Porygon2 has eaten a lot of its lunch this gen there), at the cost of meager offenses.
Gen 5 was pretty good as well about it. Like gen 4 it had a sorta meh trio (only Terrakion stands out here, and time hasn't been too kind to this thing with Fairy-types smashing it), but Thundurus and Landorus are pretty great. Thundurus actually got nerfed this gen with Tapu Lele blocking its prankster shenigans alongside Dark-types, but its still pretty usable since it outspeeds some important stuff like Garchomp, and Thundurus-T is excellent in Battle Spot Singles as an Electric-type check! Landorus-T is obiously huge everywhere it goes, its pretty much among the best users of Intimidate! Some people feel it's too common, but I feel that its just really splashable, not broken or anything.
Also, funnily enough, gen 5 probably has the worst boxart legendaries. Zekrom is sorta ok, but Reshiram is notrious for being the worst boxart legendary by a fair margin, Kyurem-White is also just ok, and Kyurem-Black... holy shit they mangled this thing's movepool rofl
Finally, gen 7 nailed it harder than any gen imo. Not only are all the Tapus good, but I like how their terrains can create different playstyles, such as using seeds in VGC. The Ultra Beasts are awesome too, with them basically being excuses for Gamefreak to give us wild ass stats and movepools you don't usually see on Pokemon. Honestly, the only Ultra Beast I think gamefreak flubbed was Guzzlord, whose poor defensive typing and lame stat distribution sorta mucks it up. Ok, I'll admit Blacephalon isn't very impressive either due to its poor movepool. Still though, they managed to make a workable Rock / Steel Pokemon! I can't belive that happened!
So TL;DR: I feel like legendaries have been bringing interesting things to the table lately, so I don't mind if Gamefreak keeps pushing them unlike the past!
I'm a bit confused. They said at the presentation last week that the game is not complete yet, didn't they? They talked about the leveling system not being fully completed, and some other things.
So how can the game be playable next week at e3? Or did I misunderstood the Masuda Q&A?
What if the Pokémon's dex number is like #857 or something like that? Does that mean we arbitrarily make it a gen 7 Pokémon despite being 50 slots into gen 8?
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Extremely unlikely
A game doesn't need to be finished to be playable. Especially not a leveling system, since a demo isn't long enough for that to matter too much.
All they need is one route, one town and a gym to have a decent demo.