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Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom Review Thread
- Thread starter Jiggy
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Ehh im not sure about that.
I mean, dont get me wrong them bringing back dinos from extinction is amazing but i do think the novelty would wear off eventually. I mean you would have kids bring brought up that would only have lived in a world where they currently exist so it wouldnt be as fascinating for the adults who lived a life without them.
Of course they would still be very popular and wouldnt have a problem attracting an audience but in a world where CEO's are looking for infinite growth it wouldnt be enough for them.
Now creating a chimera dino would be a little cooler to the public since it has that 'never existed before' aspect plus the idea of them making something even scarier then the normal dinos would help with attraction.
Of course eventually they would face the same issue as the normal dinos in that everyone would acclimatise to it and then they would need something new again.
Basically they are screwed either way lol.
Yeah thats very true, chances are there were albino dinos in history. I think the fact its still unique though is that its something that has never been depicted in our media (as far as i know of course) so that would be something.
You are right though in that essentially it is just a big dino and not something that stands out among the pack. They should have added the frills from JP1, that would have changed things up a bit :)
The thing that bugs me about these hybrid artificial evilsaurs is that there often real life dinosaurs that looked in line with them that wish these movies would push instead.
For example, the one in Fallen Kingdom looks pretty much like Australovenator to me, down it's size give or take.
Now I realise that "pushing" obscure dinosaurs isn't a concern for anyone but a select group of dino nerds, but it still bums me out.
Aside from every other problem I had with JW, this was certainly one of them - for how hard they angled on the "Brand New Dinosaur!!" selling point with it, the Indominus is about as boring a creature as you can get (they spent billions of dollars so they could add thumbs - thumbs! - to a Giganotosaurus) and you can't tell me they focus tested this thing and nobody asked for some good ol' fashioned splicing with it - Triceratops face horns, Stegosaurus plates down its back, an Ankylosaurus tail - if you're going to go ridiculous, go ridiculous. Gimme Monster Hunter's Diablos.
Also: having cuttlefish DNA gave it camouflaging skills (which were used a whopping one time in the whole film, but I digress) and yet the filmmakers didn't think to make it flash through colours to show emotion or expression? Cuttlefish are some of the most colourful and expressive fuckers in the animal kingdom, just watch them during mating rituals. They could have done so much with this - imagine if during the fight with the T.rex the Indominus put them into effect by flashing intimidating red and white all down its body, like an explosion waiting to happen. Or it could jitter through colours it loses control over sometimes, to allude to its mental instability. That would have been so cool, creepy, spectacular, all the things. But no, it was just a Deux Ex Machina for one part of the film and discarded after. Snore.
I get you, it would be nice to have something with a crazy design but i suppose then you would have some people saying "that doesnt look like a real dino" lol.The thing that bugs me about these hybrid artificial evilsaurs is that there often real life dinosaurs that looked in line with them that wish these movies would push instead.
For example, the one in Fallen Kingdom looks pretty much like Australovenator to me, down it's size give or take.
Now I realise that "pushing" obscure dinosaurs isn't a concern for anyone but a select group of dino nerds, but it still bums me out.
You got any examples of dino designs that you would have preferred them to go? As per most people my dino knowledge was mostly contained to 7-9 year old me.
Like, some of it's traits don't make sense for entertainment purposes.
OH IT'S REALLY CUNNING AND VICOUS! And? What's that to the audience, except for being a safety hazard? Now if they made it smart, but docile and able to do tricks and imprint on trainers, that would make more sense, but I guess you gotta have a slasher villain dinosaur. At least this one has a reason to be this way unlike that one Spinosaurus from JP3 who really wanted some human meat.
Nah don't buy it. I was born when tigers, elephants and gorillas are all about. Still pay to see them regularly.
Still going to see it, just going to go on $5 Tuesday and with the mind set its a big budget B Movie, hopefully still have some dumb fun watching it.
I've found my tastes, particularly when it comes to big budget movies, diverge quite significantly from those of the good people of Empire. Still one of the better film podcasts going, mind you.
I used to sit between them and total film.
TF gave it a 2 and empire a 5 I was a 3-4, then total film went to shit.
Some cool dinosaurs (and contemprary creatures) that need some love (not necessarily in leading roles) include:
Therizinosaurus and it's ilk
Herbivorous dinosaurs with sickass wolverine claws. I know JP has a tendency to depict herbivorous dinosaurs as these docile creatures you can pet, but we all know plant-eaters can be way deadlier than most predators. Would work well for a scene or two.
Quetzecoatlus, Hatzegopteryx and other Arzarchid pterosaurs
It would be incredibly easy to make them terrifying.
Yutyrannus
https://pre00.deviantart.net/5f33/t..._yutyrannus_by_fredthedinosaurman-d8h8800.jpg
If you wanna sell people on feathered dinosaurs, why not go with the thing that looked like a smaller hairy T-Rex. Unfortunately, that image isn't a real movie poster.
Australovenator which I posted above. It looks like very much like the hybrid from this movie, but it is real and from Australia.
People are saying is a fun popcorn movie with a gothic horror vibe in the final third.
Sounds good to me
Like i said i dont think people would stop going to visit, they would still be extremely cool of course and people would always want to see them in person.
The issue is that the company would want to try and maintain their profits at that initial level and eventually increase and that wouldnt be feasible after a period of time simply because of people becoming adjusted to the idea of them now existing. There is no way you could recreate that initial buzz of 'OMG they brought back dinos!' so it would lower excitement a little.
For me personally, the issue i always had with how feasible the park would be is that who could afford to go?
I mean you not only need to pay to enter the park but also have multiple flights/boat rides it seems to get there, plus accommodation since i doubt you would get much time at the actual park once you factor travel time into consideration. Then you have extortionate food/drink prices on top, plus its mostly families we see going so multiply those costs by 4.
I mean, surely that would cost a fortune and 99% of people wouldnt be able to afford this for a family holiday?
Yeah those are some cool designs and would really help diversify the dinos.Some cool dinosaurs (and contemprary creatures) that need some love (not necessarily in leading roles) include:
Therizinosaurus and it's ilk
Herbivorous dinosaurs with sickass wolverine claws. I know JP has a tendency to depict herbivorous dinosaurs as these docile creatures you can pet, but we all know plant-eaters can be way deadlier than most predators. Would work well for a scene or two.
Quetzecoatlus, Hatzegopteryx and other Arzarchid pterosaurs
It would be incredibly easy to make them terrifying.
Yutyrannus
https://pre00.deviantart.net/5f33/t..._yutyrannus_by_fredthedinosaurman-d8h8800.jpg
If you wanna sell people on feathered dinosaurs, why not go with the thing that looked like a smaller hairy T-Rex. Unfortunately, that image isn't a real movie poster.
Australovenator which I posted above. It looks like very much like the hybrid from this movie, but it is real and from Australia.
I do wonder why they have never gone all out with the variations? I mean of course cost would be involved but i would want to try and get as many breeds in as possible. I know the argument from the film would be "We only have these breeds from our DNA examples found" but i would prefer more variety.
I can't wait for people to see this so we can start talking about that fucking baffling plot twist.
Like every other modern blockbuster. There have been like 50 comic book movies and they're all very similar. We just like being entertained by what we like.
At some point they have to put wings on a raptor so they can call it a dragon. That's really all I'm waiting for.
Just saw it. Didn't like it as much as the last one, it felt... smaller. Still wasn't bad, but the big bad dinosaur (is naming it a spoiler?) wasn't as cool as the Indominus either.
Felt a little too much of a retread in some regards.
Felt a little too much of a retread in some regards.
We're talking about the
girl being a clone, right? Because when the Scooby Doo Villian said something like "you don't even know what you are" or something like that in the hallway, I literally said out lout: "YOU are a Dinosaur!". And then that's kinda exactly what it is! That girl is basically the laziest stand-in for a dinosaur surrogate ever. This movie just dropped the bomb of cloned human beings indistinguishable from real ones existing and...no one really cares. It's not even commented upon! I forgot what exactly she said when she pushed the button and basically doomed humanity (because in this world a Dinosaur who is unable to sniff out people hiding 50cm next to him is apparently the most dangerous weapon in all of humankind) but wasn't it something like "I'm alive, too!"? God, I shrunk back so far into my seat. Half expected her eyes to turn into Lizard-Eyes when they zoomed in on them in the end.
Yep! It's so fucking pointless and awful. Like, where is this even going? I feel bad for the actress as I thought she was totally fine but the material was fucking WACK.
Doesn't mean the movies have to be bottom-of-the-barrel tier cinema you know. You can make a blockbuster and still craft a decent movie that tries to push boundaries and explore interesting concepts and directions.
You're in luck, cause the CGI is pretty bad. Probably the worst in the series. Keep in mind I saw it in IMAX, but I was closer to the front row. So maybe my view wasn't the best. Though any shot that looks bad in the trailer looks bad in the theater.
People don't realize this is exactly the message of the film and even has a dedicated line to that effect in the film. It all points to "corporate minded = bad" because it's clearly not the case given the reactions throughout the film. It's WHY the park goes south because of their inability to see that based on some number crunching.
That, and real life kids can tend to rather be on their phones despite being at a neat place. It's just a message.
Lol, you haven't seen the film in 25 years have you? I just bought the 4K edition and now want to go back to the DVD on a crt.
Afraid I have to agree with the reviews. This isn't JP3 bad but it's worse than Jurassic World. I loved the first sequence but thats where it peaked for me. It was all downhill from then on.
It broke my heart because I loved JW so much. I wanted this to be better but its just a lazy rehash of The Lost World.
It broke my heart because I loved JW so much. I wanted this to be better but its just a lazy rehash of The Lost World.
Comment was based on the initial reviews, and overall there's more positive than negatives reviews out there... so still not bad.
No kidding. The CGI in the first film has aged greatly. I think he's remembering the practical effects, which yes, still look great today.
Overall yes, but the bits in the kitchen are a bit rough, and if I recall some bits of the trex chase too
Well. I think it's my least favorite Jurassic despite the fact that when it gets things right it's fantastic
Those moments just aren't enough and the intent and concepts quickly outpace the screenplay and execution
And the dinosaurs are mostly handled awfully
Those moments just aren't enough and the intent and concepts quickly outpace the screenplay and execution
And the dinosaurs are mostly handled awfully
I loved that even in world they designed a new dinosaur which was essentially just a larger t rex. Just like, that's what' going to help attendance with your park? Ok....
I come back and the movie is at 69% with 6.5 average rating, this movie is trying to pull a Jurassic World and keep going up, lol.
What a rollercoaster
I don't think I've ever seen a movie on RottenTomatoes start fresh, drop into the rotten area and then jump back up to 70%.
The Brachio's are fake as hell too in the 'It's... it's a dinosaur'-scene. Fallen Kingdom's CGI is pretty great. There are some iffy moments and some bac composition (funnily with the brachio again), but lot's of stuff works perfectly. Also way more animatronics this time.
