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Ratrat

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I would've said that too but after what Asia said as her inner self and didn't say anything backstage to make up for it, I'm almost solely rooting for Aquaria now.

Kameron is Dullsville and IMO should've gone, Eureka is a bit much and Asia lost my respect completely after that unwarranted outburst.

I'm also devastated because my wife showed me what Cracker *was* going to do for her evil twin:
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After seeing Victoria from Dragula do similar looks. This is just kind of bad.
 

Sousourocket

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Every time I watch stupid fucking editing like they did with the twins I sit and wonder how irritating that must have been to film. Somewhat off-topic but the worst instance of this was that uh, "horror" reality show recently with all the washed up VH1 stars and the legend Tiffany Pollard having to scream and cry and pretend they were terrified of trash CG insects and uh... "ghosts". Like... do they really think we're that fucking stupid or that their own concept is that cute? Sorry for the derail but it just reminded me of that. Reality TV producers need to not with that shit.

I had a sick feeling in my stomach what this elimination would be, but I hoped beyond hope it wouldn't because
Cracker turned out that lip sync IMO, Kam did her thing and all but she's been boring as fuck for weeks. I now only have Asia left, and while I think she'd deserve the crown I'm so unhappy with how we got here.
I am so damn tired of spotting people who will make to top 5 and top 3 early on and watching their asses coast like you knew they would. I miss the days of a front-runner crushing the competition for an entire season because at least you felt like it was truly earned at that point. It was satisfying as hell to me when Bianca won, for example. Y'all really fucking deprived me of Monique and Monet on my TV screen for this??? At least I know those two are going to have plenty of fans and make good money with all the bookings they're about to get. Monet is one of those queens I'd die to meet at Drag Con or somewhere, she just seems like such a sweetie T3T.
 

Red Liquorice

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I was so pissed at Cracker for her evil look after her good twin look was so great, this was her challenge to lose and she let her inner-saboteur get the better of her (can we put that phrase to bed now after this episode?!) I noticed during the lipsync she flubbed a few lines, again with Kameron's third time lipsyncing this was Cracker's challenge to lose.

Asia's good look and both of Eurekas were too simple imo, but they did manage to sell it with the dialogue and acting. Aquaria's good look was simple, but in a whole different way. She's the clear front runner now. Kameron's looks both failed because they showed nothing about him - it was the same cosplay stuff we've seen her do before. The v/o dialogue about her manly body played, so where was the negative expressed in her evil look? It was just another polished video game amazonian.

I liked this episode, it was a similar format to the Hello Kitty one. It changes things up a bit when they do this kind of thing. They could do multiple looks and it would just be like a ball episode, but having all the split screen stuff was cute.

Finally, Ashanti looked gorgeous. I vaguely remember her as a popstar from years ago, but she looked really classy tonight.
 

Androidsleeps

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Didn't like the episode, or rather the concept, found it rather boring. Also didn't expect Craker to go this week, and although Kameron did a better performance on the lipsynch, i expected him to go.
- Aquaria's Looks were beyond amazing, i love her
- Are the Judges letting Eureka everything just slide? Those costumes were terrible... i mean, come on...
- Asia being mean to Craker because? No reason? Ohh okay, good to know...
Facts.
I woulda been happy with either Aquaria or Asia winning the season, but after Asia's mean comments to Cracker I think I'm fully team Aquaria. In honesty I don't think Cracker deserves to be top 3, she was just underwhelming throughout...but I wouldn't put her behind Kameron or Eureka either; Kameron is a great lipsyncer but other than that...meh all around, Eureka should've went home mid-season the riggery is so fucking obvious at this point (goes without saying that she should have been bottom 2 this week).
 

Saatchquatch

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I am beyond gagged that Kameron Michaels of all people is suddenly one of the top ever lip-sync assassins... Surviving three in a row is pretty unheard of right? So happy for her.

After this though she's basically never going to get near the crown which is a shame because my second fav, Asia, left a super bitter taste in my mouth with her completely unprompted jab towards Cracker... It was really uncalled for.

I can't believe Cracker just crashed out of the competition like that so suddenly though. Like I said I'm super happy for Kameron but I did not expect Cracker to get eliminated over her at all because her lip-sync was actually really solid and Kameron didn't exactly blow her out of the water or anything... Such a strange decision by Ru.

... At least there's still Review with a Jew I guess! :D

So yeah, looks like we're getting a Eureka / Aquaria / Asia top three and to be honest currently I'm not really living for any of them. I'll admit that Asia and Aquaria have both served some absolute gold throughout the season though, so I'd be happy with either of them winning despite both having said things that really weren't cute.

... I would love for Kameron to turn around in the next episode and put out a performance so absolutely mind-blowingly phenomenal that she makes the top three over Eureka though. That would be a m a z i n g. :P
 

Royalan

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At this point, I'm rooting for Asia for one reason and one reason only:

She makes the majority of her own shit.

I still love the show, but if there's one thing that I've gotten tired of in the last few seasons is how far removed the show has gotten from the reality of being a real, working drag queen. These days the show is less about your own natural talent for the art, and more about how much money you have, and what designers you have access to. And that's dull. Sure, there IS a lot of that in drag, but most queens will tell you that to be a good working queen you have to know how to make/repurpose some shit. Gone are the days of the show where you gagged at a queen strutting down the runway in a sickening outfit that you watched her make on the episode.

Shout-out to Monique Hart coming to the show with just suitcases full of fabric and talent.
 

AlexMeloche

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I can't believe Cracker just crashed out of the competition like that so suddenly though. Like I said I'm super happy for Kameron but I did not expect Cracker to get eliminated over her at all because her lip-sync was actually really solid and Kameron didn't exactly blow her out of the water or anything... Such a strange decision by Ru.

... At least there's still Review with a Jew I guess! :D

Cracker had pretty much the same storline as Trixie during S7. I can guarantee we'll see her come back in AS5 (or maybe even AS4) without an inner saboteur this time.
 

Shizuka

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None of the evil twin looks hold a candle against most Dragula looks. You'd think being Sharon's daughter that Aquaria would've done at least one spooky look.
 

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I hope there aren't any bullshit twists, season has been great so far.
 

Wilsongt

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Every time I watch stupid fucking editing like they did with the twins I sit and wonder how irritating that must have been to film. Somewhat off-topic but the worst instance of this was that uh, "horror" reality show recently with all the washed up VH1 stars and the legend Tiffany Pollard having to scream and cry and pretend they were terrified of trash CG insects and uh... "ghosts". Like... do they really think we're that fucking stupid or that their own concept is that cute? Sorry for the derail but it just reminded me of that. Reality TV producers need to not with that shit.

I had a sick feeling in my stomach what this elimination would be, but I hoped beyond hope it wouldn't because
Cracker turned out that lip sync IMO, Kam did her thing and all but she's been boring as fuck for weeks. I now only have Asia left, and while I think she'd deserve the crown I'm so unhappy with how we got here.
I am so damn tired of spotting people who will make to top 5 and top 3 early on and watching their asses coast like you knew they would. I miss the days of a front-runner crushing the competition for an entire season because at least you felt like it was truly earned at that point. It was satisfying as hell to me when Bianca won, for example. Y'all really fucking deprived me of Monique and Monet on my TV screen for this??? At least I know those two are going to have plenty of fans and make good money with all the bookings they're about to get. Monet is one of those queens I'd die to meet at Drag Con or somewhere, she just seems like such a sweetie T3T.

We need another season of Jinkx. Not another season of Violet and Sasha.
 

Batatina

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I don't want to sound hateful, but this is the first season where I actually don't root for anyone and saw all of my favourites be eliminated. The energy of the show is very strange, Rupaul seems cold and desinterested. The queens aren't exciting or aren't given time or material that lets them shine, the editing is forced. I truly think it's the worst season the show has had apart from the first ones (which were just a bit on the cheap).

I feel the success and money around this show, and the upgrade to VH1 only served to highlight the worst parts and sucked the fun out of it. All Stars 3 started to show signs of this, but the queens were talented and managed to overcome this, but these less seasoned ones simply can't carry a show that even Rupaul is just phoning in these days.
 
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Oh dear lord,

Eureka is gonna win this, isn't she?

Ewww!

mazi
I was also very confused, it made no sense why the toot Eureka and boot Asia's look.
 
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Saatchquatch

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Cracker had pretty much the same storline as Trixie during S7. I can guarantee we'll see her come back in AS5 (or maybe even AS4) without an inner saboteur this time.

Yeah she definitely gave me Trixie vibes with how she often struggled to let go and bring her A-game on the show, hopefully when she rocks up for an AS season she brings it.


There's finale tea spilling everywhere, fair warning. It's also a fuckin mess

The memes from THAT are going to be incredible.

Yeah, I couldn't help but check them out and that all sounds like a disaster.

... And suddenly I'm very nervous about the finale lmao. Must. Not. Click. Spoilers. :P
 

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RuPaul's inner saboteur makes him play at being some kind of life guru or mental health professional. I could barely tolerate watching just the first fifteen minutes of this episode, lol.
 

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I like the positive self-improvement messages Ru tries to convey, the show always manages to energize me in that sense. The What's the Tee podcast actually helped me through a dark time in my life, including Ru recommending The Power of Now (which was the first of several useful reads that helped me see some things differently).
 

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I like the positive self-improvement messages Ru tries to convey, the show always manages to energize me in that sense. The What's the Tee podcast actually helped me through a dark time in my life, including Ru recommending The Power of Now (which was the first of several useful reads that helped me see some things differently).

Fair enough, it's good if it helped you, I just find him simplistic and kind of insincere, and it detracts a bit from why I watch the show.
 

Kino

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RuPaul's inner saboteur makes him play at being some kind of life guru or mental health professional. I could barely tolerate watching just the first fifteen minutes of this episode, lol.
That schtick is even worse when he goads the queens into airing their painful stories on television in the name healing.
 

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oh god, i'm not gonna look for spoilers but now i'm nervous about the finale.
this season started strong but now i think i would rank it somewhere in the middle. it wasn't season 5 and 6 tier. but we have to accept that with it going so mainstream it will never be the old show. it's vibe will forever be different than it was a few years ago.

That schtick is even worse when he goads the queens into airing their painful stories on television in the name healing.
i hate ru for this, and for his nonsense spiritual/guru bs.
 

Royalan

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I mean, Ru hardly invented the Reality TV Emotional Moment. That's a staple of reality TV, and Ru is at least more genuine about it than most other shows.

Not to mention that a lot of queens play into because it helps build their brand. That isn't Ru's fault.
 

Teiresias

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Ru's spiritual guidance, while I don't doubt he means well, is cringeworthy to me in the same way business improvement books from successful people talk about "spend your time doing what you love." That BS only flies because you've actually made it to where you are already, and congratulation for "loving" stock trading, how amazingly fortunate for you.
 

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I mean, Ru hardly invented the Reality TV Emotional Moment. That's a staple of reality TV, and Ru is at least more genuine about it than most other shows.

Not to mention that a lot of queens play into because it helps build their brand. That isn't Ru's fault.
you're right, it happens in other reality/competition shows, and contestants do use it to get sympathy/make their storyline interesting. the difference is on drag race it gets into bullying territory to get ot out of the girls. it's nice when something happens organically and a queen shares something important from their past, but we've had so many times where they just want the queens (specially the more quiet ones) to share something, whether they're ready or not. they want that moment in every girls storyline and if she's not willing to give it she won't be on the show for long
 

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This might have been the most difficult episode to really gauge as a contender. There's so much - I have to assume - genuinely dark stuff that could be expressed, but that would be too dark to be seen.

The cutting between good/bad sides of the contestants throughout the judging felt very laborious and needlessly artificial. There's this weird divide that constantly is brought to light when Ru wants to "dig deeper" into the contestant, where he is asking for something raw and real and true, but with the caveat that it also be tv-friendly.

As much as this show is about ostensibly poking fun at reality-tv conventions, it's still definitely a tv-show and no amount of Oprah probing is going to change that. I'd love for this show to highlight the reality of contemporary drag, and the high cost of being a drag-queen, but that's not really what this show is about.

It just feels a little odd to sincerely ask the contestants to present something raw and deeply personal as a challenge, when the format doesn't really allow for that kind of truth-telling. Drag Race may pride itself with being irreverent, but it's irreverent in a very narrow, highly produced way.

And that's fine, of course. But it must make it difficult for the contestants to decipher what is actually being asked of them, when the show tries to veer into "realness" like this.

I'd rather they let "realness" organically unfold in make-up-room-talk and a more relaxed version of untucked. If you make it on the show, odds are that you have something interesting to say, or at least add to a conversation.

I dunno; perhaps it's just the whole Oprah-shtick that bugs me, or my scandinavian personality. The way Ru talks with contestants in this context is so far removed from anything actually interesting, personal and revealing. I wish the context of queerness would add something more to these interactions than the clumsy - and ultimately pointless - way we talk about self-help (essentially slogans and memes that has no therapeutic value).

Odd episode, all in all. I wish Aquaria would have used actual bones for the outfit. I thought the execution looked pretty shoddy when the central piece - the bones - looked like cheap vampire-teeth-plastic. If nothing else, she could have aged them with spray-paint. It would have made the look really savage and eye-catching.

As it was, it felt more like the praise was about concept than execution, which I somewhat understand, but also find a little odd.


Anyway, these are my dumb thoughts. Trinity Tuck Taylor was a guest at my local Pride Parade, which was fun. Her body is sorta otherworldly in an interesting, gender-blurring way. She asked the audience who their favorite of season 10 was, and did the "miss vanje...vanje" walk, which was kinda cute.
 

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At this point, I'm rooting for Asia for one reason and one reason only:

She makes the majority of her own shit.

I still love the show, but if there's one thing that I've gotten tired of in the last few seasons is how far removed the show has gotten from the reality of being a real, working drag queen. These days the show is less about your own natural talent for the art, and more about how much money you have, and what designers you have access to. And that's dull. Sure, there IS a lot of that in drag, but most queens will tell you that to be a good working queen you have to know how to make/repurpose some shit. Gone are the days of the show where you gagged at a queen strutting down the runway in a sickening outfit that you watched her make on the episode.

Shout-out to Monique Hart coming to the show with just suitcases full of fabric and talent.

Asia is the people's queen.
 

Fuu

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This might have been the most difficult episode to really gauge as a contender. There's so much - I have to assume - genuinely dark stuff that could be expressed, but that would be too dark to be seen.

The cutting between good/bad sides of the contestants throughout the judging felt very laborious and needlessly artificial. There's this weird divide that constantly is brought to light when Ru wants to "dig deeper" into the contestant, where he is asking for something raw and real and true, but with the caveat that it also be tv-friendly.

As much as this show is about ostensibly poking fun at reality-tv conventions, it's still definitely a tv-show and no amount of Oprah probing is going to change that. I'd love for this show to highlight the reality of contemporary drag, and the high cost of being a drag-queen, but that's not really what this show is about.

It just feels a little odd to sincerely ask the contestants to present something raw and deeply personal as a challenge, when the format doesn't really allow for that kind of truth-telling. Drag Race may pride itself with being irreverent, but it's irreverent in a very narrow, highly produced way.

And that's fine, of course. But it must make it difficult for the contestants to decipher what is actually being asked of them, when the show tries to veer into "realness" like this.

I'd rather they let "realness" organically unfold in make-up-room-talk and a more relaxed version of untucked. If you make it on the show, odds are that you have something interesting to say, or at least add to a conversation.

I dunno; perhaps it's just the whole Oprah-shtick that bugs me, or my scandinavian personality. The way Ru talks with contestants in this context is so far removed from anything actually interesting, personal and revealing. I wish the context of queerness would add something more to these interactions than the clumsy - and ultimately pointless - way we talk about self-help (essentially slogans and memes that has no therapeutic value).

Odd episode, all in all. I wish Aquaria would have used actual bones for the outfit. I thought the execution looked pretty shoddy when the central piece - the bones - looked like cheap vampire-teeth-plastic. If nothing else, she could have aged them with spray-paint. It would have made the look really savage and eye-catching.

As it was, it felt more like the praise was about concept than execution, which I somewhat understand, but also find a little odd.


Anyway, these are my dumb thoughts. Trinity Tuck Taylor was a guest at my local Pride Parade, which was fun. Her body is sorta otherworldly in an interesting, gender-blurring way. She asked the audience who their favorite of season 10 was, and did the "miss vanje...vanje" walk, which was kinda cute.
Even if do enjoy the self-help angle, I do agree with all of this. The concept of this episode was iffy and the way they decided to edit the whole thing didn't help.
 

Orin_linwe

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Even if do enjoy the self-help angle, I do agree with all of this. The concept of this episode was iffy and the way they decided to edit the whole thing didn't help.

I don't really mind the self-help thing itself - maybe it helps someone, or is entertaining - but it's odd to ask a group of people who demonstrably, as a group, are known to carry with them significant emotional baggage, and let them figure out a way to make that tv-friendly.

I think my fundamental problem is the asking for something real, when the actual real is not what is asked for, but rather a playful, highly sanitized version of real, that is only allowed to dip a toe into real mess.

The show's identity/mechanics doesn't truly allow for this is any genuine way, so it's odd to ask for it. I have to assume that it is mostly a result of Ru Pauls approach to life, which isn't as resonant and universal as he might think. There's a fundamental "surface-level" think to every (televised) "heart-to-heart" between Ru and a contestant that is so odd for me to see.

He's obviously capable of actual realness, but it's dolled out very sparingly.

I guess it just feels glib to talk about your inner saboteur, in the way that this episode did, when this season has already directly dealt organically with both race, economic disparity and sexual assault.

Maybe it was primarily the editing that really pushed me over the edge of being annoyed. These are inherently interesting people, and the task is open to be as dark as possible depending on your interpretation, and yet the whole thing is needlessly belabored by "split-screen" filming of the good/evil characters as if they couldn't just talk about the topic earnestly.

All I could think of was how they filmed this; what the time-line between the two looks were, and how they got the reaction shots to dialogue that ostensibly happened in real-time.

It was an odd episode, but most of its oddness was due to needless artifice through editing and shooting choices. I wish drag race was more comfortable with leaning into the organic moments, that often are rich and genuinely interesting, and it's just odd to see them flail around substance when you have a rich vein of substance if you just relax and let people talk with each other.

//This post is probably a bit belabored itself; I'm not really invested in the topic, and have no actual problem with the episode itself. It's clunky, and that's about it. As all things, it will pass. I just think that we, as queer people, and drag race as a product, would more readily lean into the sore spots of queer life. It doesn't take anything away from the positives; if anything, it magnifies it by contrast. Cheers/love.
 
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AlexMeloche

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What turned me off about this episode was the fact that Ru asked the girls to create looks based on what they hate the most about themselves... but in the end most of them used looks they brought for the Prehistoric Runway (which was scrapped). Asia also used her Orange Runway (also scrapped) look.

This should have been a sewing challenge where they couldn't use already-made looks, without a voiceover.
 

DoubleG

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I am more and more disappointed by this season towards the end. The season started so strong but the wrong queens got eliminated, some queens (Aquaria and Asia) got praises by judges they didn't deserve, some queens got harsher than deserved critiques.

I don't root for Aquaria, because she lacks talent. All she got are expensive designer dresses. She is a spoiled arrogant young queen who gets praised for wrong reasons.

I don't root for Asia, because I can't stand her "I always know the truth, I always have an opinion"- attitude. Everybody read Eureka for having a big mouth while Asia is the one who always speaks out every possible moment because she has an opinion on everything and feels the need to tell everyone. While that was cute earlier this season, it got a very dark twist last episode with Cracker. Besides of her looks she didn't wow me. I will always remember her snatch game.

I don't root for Kameron, because in all honesty I don't think she deserves to win. I kinda see her character and I like her, but besides of some gorgeous looks and her lipsynchs, she comes off boring and plain. She had to succeed a little more for me to root for her. Maybe she will turn it out next week. But I don't expect that, since the jury clearly favorize other queens.

I don't root for Eureka, because she didn't wow me that much. She did a decent job throughout the season and for that she deserves to be top 4. But for me personally something is missing. That last bit to make me believe she deserves to win.

Since all the queens I was rooting for got eliminated, I don't care that much about the finale.
I am annoyed at some of Ru's decisions and Michelle's critiques. I don't know if it is because of VH1 or the reality tv format, or because of Ru, but I highly dislike the scripted winner edit of this show. I am ok with scripted drama, but I am not ok with a scripted winner/top 4. Some decisions and critiques were simply unfair this season.

I dislike Aquaria's and Asia's personalities. So I hope Eureka or Kameron wins.
I think after Ginger, Eureka is the first big queen who deserves to be top 4. So I would be ok with our first crowned big queen to be Eureka.
 

Red Liquorice

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I see Eureka winning just so there's a big queen in the winners collection for diversity. Last winner was a skinny white New York fashion queen, will they crown another so soon? Especially in a season with so many strong black queens who got eliminated. Yes I'm discounting the other two, especially Asia who from the spoilers did something really fucking cruel and shortsighted.
 

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Not sure if it was brought up, but did anyone else get some Jaina Proudmoore vibes from good Kameron's outfit?

And also I want to see Rita Repulsa Aquaria.
 

Kino

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If Aquaria wins, I'll have given up on the competition aspect of this show. The moment she stepped into the work room, you could tell she was going to make it far, and her winner edit this season has been anything but subtle.

I don't think Kameron deserves the win because, outside of lipsyncs and some cool looks, she didn't stand out.

Eureka got so many passes, and even though she lip synced twice, I never felt like the judges graded her as harshly as the other queens.

Asia would be a good winner, but I don't feel like she dominated the competition this season.
 

Zero315

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I'm pulling for Asia. The critiques this episode were weird, some queens got dragged for being "Halloween" looks, but Aquaria got praised for the bloody gloves and apron. Plus her evil voiceover didn't say much about herself, but Ru handwaved it away as Aquaria being young.
 

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If Aquaria wins, I'll have given up on the competition aspect of this show. The moment she stepped into the work room, you could tell she was going to make it far, and her winner edit this season has been anything but subtle.

I don't think Kameron deserves the win because, outside of lipsyncs and some cool looks, she didn't stand out.

Eureka got so many passes, and even though she lip synced twice, I never felt like the judges graded her as harshly as the other queens.

Asia would be a good winner, but I don't feel like she dominated the competition this season.

I'm pulling for Asia. The critiques this episode were weird, some queens got dragged for being "Halloween" looks, but Aquaria got praised for the bloody gloves and apron. Plus her evil voiceover didn't say much about herself, but Ru handwaved it away as Aquaria being young.
Yeah, you two are pretty much summing up all my feelings.

This isn't a competition as much as it's just dramatic television. Still fun but the whole "today rules matter and they won't next week depending on who breaks them" gets tiresome.
 

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i think the only one whose win i would be ok with is asia, even tho i didn't like what she did to cracker last episode.

kameron has been pretty much a non factor this whole competition. she was safe all the way, without ever being notable in challenges, and at the end she just stayed by being good at lip synching, which is of course an important factor, but it doesn't make up for her barely being there in the first 6 or 7 episodes. she's great at giving fantasy, extra looks, but it was like she used all the good looks she had brought at the beginning, and didn't have a lot for the later episodes. probably because she didn't assume she was gonna get this far.

eureka was given a ridiculous amount of passes, it's really hard not to believe that the producers wanted her to get in the top 3. she's sometimes (not always) good at giving looks that not a lot of big girls do, but that's pretty much it for me as far as her positives go. i don't like her loud and obnoxious style in the acting challenges which ru apparently loves, and there's really nothing else to say about her.

i wasn't a fan of aquaria at the beginning, but i kinda started liking her at the middle point of the season. i think she's the one who's gonna win, having the most fans, but i don't think she's ready as a performer to join [most of] the other queens in the winners club. she's an amazing make up artist for sure, but i don't think that and the ability to wear expensively designed clothes is enough to become the winner.

asia is the only one who seems to have most of the qualities that i look for in a winner. she's good at sewing and designing her own looks, good at makeup, has (or had) a good motherly and caring personality, and like trinity was last season, she's not afraid to be wacky even tho she's a polished pageant queen.
 

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The thing that has been the most consistently annoying is the inconsistency of the critiques.

Dusty gets clocked in the first episode for her make up. Eureka wears the same silhouette, same loaf over and over again and no one says a thing.

Cracker got read last episode for the outfits not being cohesive with the "Twins" theme, but then Aquaria gets praised to hell and back when hers are not cohesive either.

Dusty got eliminated on the Last Ball on Earth episode for not being "Martian" enough. But Aquaria won that challenge not being Martian at all

So it gets a little bit frustrating. Some of the queens do seem to get a harsher treatment than others, and although when you watch this you already know it won't be completely fair, you kind of expect some level of fairness on how they are being judged. All Stars 3 and this season have been specially bad with it. I've been really enjoying Season 10 so far, but those last episodes are starting to sour the whole thing for me.
 

Kino

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,332
The thing that has been the most consistently annoying is the inconsistency of the critiques.

Dusty gets clocked in the first episode for her make up. Eureka wears the same silhouette, same loaf over and over again and no one says a thing.

Cracker got read last episode for the outfits not being cohesive with the "Twins" theme, but then Aquaria gets praised to hell and back when hers are not cohesive either.

Dusty got eliminated on the Last Ball on Earth episode for not being "Martian" enough. But Aquaria won that challenge not being Martian at all

So it gets a little bit frustrating. Some of the queens do seem to get a harsher treatment than others, and although when you watch this you already know it won't be completely fair, you kind of expect some level of fairness on how they are being judged. All Stars 3 and this season have been specially bad with it. I've been really enjoying Season 10 so far, but those last episodes are starting to sour the whole thing for me.
At this point in the show's run, you can pinpoint the winner of a season just by going to their instagram and seeing how many followers they have.
 

Fuu

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Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,361
Just saw a finale spoiler accidentally in a twitter convo a friend had with a jackass, then went to reddit for details of the actual T. This time I'm glad to know beforehand because I can come to terms with it before watching.
 

Teiresias

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,237
Just saw a finale spoiler accidentally in a twitter convo a friend had with a jackass, then went to reddit for details of the actual T. This time I'm glad to know beforehand because I can come to terms with it before watching.
Link? So I can prepare myself. I'm kind of tired of this season at this point with who's already gone anyway.

[EDIT] Nevermind, found it.
 
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