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Glassboy

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Oct 27, 2017
3,552
I'm done expecting anything from FFVIIR. I'm so tired of being disappointed. I'll still play it when it's released of course, but I'm no longer going to look forward to it making appearances. It's less depressing that way.
I think this is the healthiest way to look forward to the game. I can't bring myself to get hyped anymore. I really had high hopes they were gonna show something this time. Oh well.
 

Beatrix

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Oct 28, 2017
32
New York
Lmao I told ya'll episode 1 ain't coming out until 2020 at the EARLIEST. So I'm realistically expecting a 2021 release on the PS5.
 

Beatrix

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Oct 28, 2017
32
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I think this is the healthiest way to look forward to the game. I can't bring myself to get hyped anymore. I really had high hopes they were gonna show something this time. Oh well.

Square Enix has shown themselves to announce games way too early, and even when they do announce a game that's "on track" to release it still somehow gets delayed. That's why my hype for their games has essentially died. I don't mean to sound like a debbie downer but I don't even care about Kingdom Hearts 3 until it is in my hands and I'm playing it. The release date means nothing to me.
 

Squaresoft

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Jan 23, 2018
431
Un fucking believable

3 years since the reveal

And again nothing

But they are selling the remake action figures already for 2 years now

And now they have even changed the character designs so new Cloud and Barret action figures must be on their way, i am not buying them again

You cant make this up

Dissapointment is not the word for it
 

HHGaming

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Oct 27, 2017
539
But if episode 1 not getting released by 2019 max what is the point of bring ps4 game?

Episode 1 2020 Fall
Episode 2 2021 Summer
Episode 3 2022 Fall

Is that possible ?
I don't think they would take 2+ years between episodes that's too silly
And not releasing it by 2019/2020 is stupid move (next gen arrives)
Better off being PS5 Launch game at this point
 
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Beatrix

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Oct 28, 2017
32
New York
But if episode 1 not getting released by 2019 max are is the point of bring ps4 game?

Episode 1 2020 Fall
Episode 2 2021 Summer
Episode 3 2022 Fall

Better off being PS5 Launch game at this point

I can almost guarantee you that if Episode 1 comes out that soon, Episode 2/3 won't be out for another 5 years after the first one lol. Not even being sarcastic, just how Square Enix development works.
 

TheZynster

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Oct 26, 2017
13,285
Yes, I wouldn't doubt if this is some Nomura design and he wanted to 1:1 the whole thing in HD 3D to scale which is utterly ridiculous and not even good development wise. It's going to take over 10 years for them to complete this.
 

Xaero Gravity

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Oct 25, 2017
1,144
Every time the game has completely no showed an event, I've grown a little more disinterested each time. At this point I don't give a fuck about the game anymore and won't until it's the week before release. I'm just going to replay FFVII in order to scratch that itch.
 

TheFireman

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Dec 22, 2017
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I feel very confident this is a next gen game now. Either they cancelled the episodic style and realized it would need much more time, or they realized releasing an episodic game across two gens was a bad idea.

IMO, next gen starts in Fall 2019 or 2020. Halo Infinite, Cyberpunk 2077, Starfield, FF7 Remake Episode 1, and Death Stranding Remastered will be our big first year titles.
 

DSP

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Oct 25, 2017
5,120
Let's assume Nomura wants 1:1 3D openworld remake, is it really unreasonable for a big game in 2019+? Not really. Have you seen the new Assassin's Creed or even Origins? Yeah, it has seamless islands, sea, large continent, several cities with great level detail. Building FF7 map is nothing special compared with something like this, it's totally doable, SE is just not the developer for it. A dev like UBi has 15 years of iterating on this, SE's best openworld effort after years of work is FF15... If this is the type of game they want to make and sell, they gotta learn how to make it.

Just look how quickly Capcom fully remaking RE2 for example. FF7 really is not that big of a game to remake.
 

Alvis

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Oct 25, 2017
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Deleted member 11182

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SE suffers from chronic over-ambition. This issue first became apparent with FF:SW. I'm not sure where it stems from. Could be the producers or it could be coming from the management. I'm inclined to think it's the former since it is most apparent in their handling of FF. It could just be Nomura. But they need to tackle this problem because it has been harming their most important IP for too long.
 

MilkBeard

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Oct 25, 2017
7,783
Just woke up. Was hoping for a sliver of something, but nope. SE really are repeating the same shit again... I guess we should just forget about this game for a few years, lol.
 

Scherzo

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Nov 27, 2017
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I mean, there's always Gamescom, or more likely TGS. The last thing I heard was that the Square team that took over had to throw out a lot of what CC2 had done as unusable, though again that was just the rumors I saw reported on. MAYBE we're lucky and Pt. 1 comes out next Fall, but that to me seems pretty optimistic.
 

Aters

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Oct 26, 2017
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SE suffers from chronic over-ambition. This issue first became apparent with FF:SW. I'm not sure where it stems from. Could be the producers or it could be coming from the management. I'm inclined to think it's the former since it is most apparent in their handling of FF. It could just be Nomura. But they need to tackle this problem because it has been harming their most important IP for too long.
FF:SW was Sakaguchi's dream project, how can you blame Nomura for that?
 

DrazilKaj

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Oct 25, 2017
336
ya know guys, we still have a whole other half of the year to go through still. for all we know, it just needs another month before they could show something off. there's no law that says it HAS to appear at E3 or it can't be shown ever in 2018.
 

ultima786

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Oct 28, 2017
1,711
Certainly square has to be seeing the intensity of this backlash and disappointment. All the subtle hints and even explicit mentions of showing stuff "soon"... They surely must be scrambling to save its reputation by putting together a typical inspiring ff trailer.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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ya know guys, we still have a whole other half of the year to go through still. for all we know, it just needs another month before they could show something off. there's no law that says it HAS to appear at E3 or it can't be shown ever in 2018.

True enough, though it is still unlikely. PSX is possible, but I would not bet on anything for FFVIIr until KHIII is out the door.

It's funny, I've been trying to get to FF VII for years, and put in some time on Vita a while ago (up to middle of 2nd bombing run?) when I was still playing games in transit and wasn't committing all of my travel time to studying, but it almost comes off like I've made more progress than the dev team. I know that's not really true at all, and is just a dumb hottake from an armchair developer like me, but I would have thought episode 1 would be somewhere on the horizon by now, like coming in less than 2 years.

That's one reason I haven't gone that far into FFVII, because I thought I'd potentially be playing at least episode 1 soon anyways, but nope. At this rate even if I only played 10 hours a year I'd probably beat it before the remake was done.

And it's not like I have no time for gaming, just a lot of factors get in the way, and since I practically know the entire story by now from hearing others talk about it my enthusiasm isn't as high as for new things, you know? Still, I should get to it sometime soon I think.

Anyone know a good "definitive" list of mods for the steam version? The fan retranslation stands out to me as worth checking out, as well as some of the graphical overhauls for the battle models, but the overhauls that change the world view character models to be proportionate screws with the overall art style too much and makes the characters inconsistent across the CG scenes. Does anyone know of any mods that add way more detail to the world view character models while retaining the art style shown in the CG scenes? Thanks.

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Certainly square has to be seeing the intensity of this backlash and disappointment. All the subtle hints and even explicit mentions of showing stuff "soon"... They surely must be scrambling to save its reputation by putting together a typical inspiring ff trailer.

Square-Enix should really consider outsourcing nearly everything and just focus on marketing the results. I know it's a played out joke, and obviously they shouldn't really do that, but considering how they can reel people in, even making trailers basically out of nothing (ie. alpha prototypes at best), they'd probably do a decent job at just marketing the work of other companies.
 

ascii

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Jan 5, 2018
173
I don't know why anyone is surprised at this point, Square-Enix have to be the world's worst AAA developer. Absolutely ruining that franchise.
 

Squaresoft

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Jan 23, 2018
431
Let's assume Nomura wants 1:1 3D openworld remake, is it really unreasonable for a big game in 2019+? Not really. Have you seen the new Assassin's Creed or even Origins? Yeah, it has seamless islands, sea, large continent, several cities with great level detail. Building FF7 map is nothing special compared with something like this, it's totally doable, SE is just not the developer for it. A dev like UBi has 15 years of iterating on this, SE's best openworld effort after years of work is FF15... If this is the type of game they want to make and sell, they gotta learn how to make it.

Just look how quickly Capcom fully remaking RE2 for example. FF7 really is not that big of a game to remake.

Yes it is big
IF you want to again give it the FEEL of scope and largness the original had

Of course only making exactly the same scenes will be easy and can be done quickly, but that wouldnt make anyone awe

Escpecially with action battles the game would be way too small
You could sprint through all the original scenes to the end
 

Deleted member 43657

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I had a feeling this would be a no-show. Can't say I'm bummed since I expected this. I still say a smaller scale remake/clean-up would have been so great. Why does everything have to be done on such an insane scale now? The original is still great to this day, imo; it just needs some heavy remastering.
 

Deleted member 5596

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Square-Enix should really consider outsourcing nearly everything and just focus on marketing the results. I know it's a played out joke, and obviously they shouldn't really do that, but considering how they can reel people in, even making trailers basically out of nothing (ie. alpha prototypes at best), they'd probably do a decent job at just marketing the work of other companies.

They did that, outsource the game completely and it was a disaster.
 

Alvis

Saw the truth behind the copied door
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Oct 25, 2017
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Square-Enix should really consider outsourcing nearly everything and just focus on marketing the results. I know it's a played out joke, and obviously they shouldn't really do that, but considering how they can reel people in, even making trailers basically out of nothing (ie. alpha prototypes at best), they'd probably do a decent job at just marketing the work of other companies.
But they already tried that and they had to move it in-house and (according to rumours) scrap the whole thing and re-start because it was a disaster
 

Perfo

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Oct 30, 2017
344
I really don't understand why they don't show it. Even if it's not "feature complete" just fucking show a cutscene, everyone does that at E3 so where's the issue with them????
 

Camisado

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Nov 3, 2017
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Square-Enix seem to announce games as soon as they decide to make them, I really wish they'd wait until they had a lot of it made before announcing in future, because in the last 10 years or so I feel like it's been really damaging for their reputation with gamers.
 

ZeoVGM

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Oct 25, 2017
76,219
Providence, RI
If the game is still coming in multiple parts, then it is a problem (in my opinion) that it was a no-show at E3. There is simply no reason for it if not for development issues.
 

HHGaming

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Oct 27, 2017
539
Guys I get it finally !

FFVII Will get FULLY revealed tomorrow

Reason?

SE will announce Switch Port at Nintendo direct and that's why they did not show it at their own conference or Sony
 

Renmyra

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Oct 27, 2017
681
They could literally show like a one minute teaser of Tifa just attacking a regular grunt (or just standing in the bar) and people would probably be happy. So fucking disappointed right now. At least say something.