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Bitanator

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Oct 27, 2017
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Nintendo will be laughing all the way to the bank when Pokemon has an 90% attach rate and moves 10+ million units
 

ThankDougie

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Nov 12, 2017
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It's more common with companies like Nintendo that work in only one segment of the market. Nintendo is strictly about videogames, so it fluctuates more than Sony or Microsoft, both of them working on various different markets.

For example, Microsoft could have had the worst showing ever at E3 that it still would have stable stock due to the recent acquisition of GitHub, for example. But it can work both ways: Sony's stock took a hit after the Sony Pictures fiasco, but was saved by the PS3/4's success.

this guy/girl gets it. it's hilarious to me that people are trying to read so much into a single week of market activity.

seriously, wait at least a month to make predictions/prognostications, unless you have some actual insider information or are running a sophisticated analysis that you'd like to share.
 

Mysterio79

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Oct 25, 2017
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this guy/girl gets it. it's hilarious to me that people are trying to read so much into a single week of market activity.

seriously, wait at least a month to make predictions/prognostications, unless you have some actual insider information or are running a sophisticated analysis that you'd like to share.
People on this forum are literally more interested and engaged in the daily trading value of Nintendo's stock than they are.

It is absolutely hilarious and trivial to the point where I feel ridiculous about further engaging the topic but it's oddly entertaining.
 

Mysterio79

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Oct 25, 2017
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Stock is down another 4% in Japan right now btw. The freefall has been just perfect for Switch.

If anyone is planning on buying back in the time is coming very soon.
 

Phil Good

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Apr 25, 2018
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What I'm shocked by is a video game company who thinks they can bring 2 games to the biggest videogame event of the year.

And I'm not talking about Animal Crossing or such huge titles. There are plenty of smaller titles that could be made and it seems that Nintendo has completely abandoned this idea. Where are the likes of chibi robot, ever oasis, etc ?

Whether you want to admit it or not, Nintendo has a HUGE issue with QUANTITY of games. They make fantastic games but they simply don't make enough games.

And it's particularly worrying considering the fact that the Switch is getting all of Nintendo's efforts as opposed to split between 2 consoles.

So yeah. Where are the new games ??
 

Rathorial

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Oct 28, 2017
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Not too surprised, they didn't have much new to announce, and they have less big hitters this year than the 1st. Ubisoft tends to barrel in quick on any new platform, but I figured this other devs were likely curious how well the Switch would do, and it will take until late 2019 or 2020 to get their games out for it. Still, the indie adoption means it will never have the gaps the Wii and especially the WiiU had when it comes to things to play, and portability is an incentive those other machines didn't have.

Hopefully more large games from Nintendo happen in 2019 and 2020, and they finish their online service.
 
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What I'm shocked by is a video game company who thinks they can bring 2 games to the biggest videogame event of the year.

And I'm not talking about Animal Crossing or such huge titles. There are plenty of smaller titles that could be made and it seems that Nintendo has completely abandoned this idea. Where are the likes of chibi robot, ever oasis, etc ?

Whether you want to admit it or not, Nintendo has a HUGE issue with QUANTITY of games. They make fantastic games but they simply don't make enough games.

And it's particularly worrying considering the fact that the Switch is getting all of Nintendo's efforts as opposed to split between 2 consoles.

So yeah. Where are the new games ??

Nintendo's handheld and b-teams were still working on 3DS games by the time the Switch became a known success. 2017 had a lot of great Switch games, but Nintendo were still releasing a bunch of stuff for 3DS as well. With very few 3DS games releasing this year from Nintendo, that signals that most of their handheld developers have now moved over to the Switch, but aren't ready to show their projects this year yet, possibly because they're still getting used to the Switch hardware. It's been said before, but we won't be seeing the full fruits of the consolidated development until 2019 really.
 

Serebii

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What I'm shocked by is a video game company who thinks they can bring 2 games to the biggest videogame event of the year.

And I'm not talking about Animal Crossing or such huge titles. There are plenty of smaller titles that could be made and it seems that Nintendo has completely abandoned this idea. Where are the likes of chibi robot, ever oasis, etc ?

Whether you want to admit it or not, Nintendo has a HUGE issue with QUANTITY of games. They make fantastic games but they simply don't make enough games.

And it's particularly worrying considering the fact that the Switch is getting all of Nintendo's efforts as opposed to split between 2 consoles.

So yeah. Where are the new games ??
Remember in 2016 when they brought one game and everyone decided they had "won" E3.

Nintendo also don't have issue with quantity of their games. Look at what they actually publish in a year
 

Dante&Vergil

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hopefully they can shift their attitude with their upcoming directs.

The splatoon to smash transition was awesome. I would love to see them create more of that spectacle around their IPs.

This direct felt like they had nothing to show. It was more of old Nintendo :/
 

Livia

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What I'm shocked by is a video game company who thinks they can bring 2 games to the biggest videogame event of the year.

And I'm not talking about Animal Crossing or such huge titles. There are plenty of smaller titles that could be made and it seems that Nintendo has completely abandoned this idea. Where are the likes of chibi robot, ever oasis, etc ?

Whether you want to admit it or not, Nintendo has a HUGE issue with QUANTITY of games. They make fantastic games but they simply don't make enough games.

And it's particularly worrying considering the fact that the Switch is getting all of Nintendo's efforts as opposed to split between 2 consoles.

So yeah. Where are the new games ??

2019 bruh
 

Pablo Mesa

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What I'm shocked by is a video game company who thinks they can bring 2 games to the biggest videogame event of the year.

And I'm not talking about Animal Crossing or such huge titles. There are plenty of smaller titles that could be made and it seems that Nintendo has completely abandoned this idea. Where are the likes of chibi robot, ever oasis, etc ?

Whether you want to admit it or not, Nintendo has a HUGE issue with QUANTITY of games. They make fantastic games but they simply don't make enough games.

And it's particularly worrying considering the fact that the Switch is getting all of Nintendo's efforts as opposed to split between 2 consoles.

So yeah. Where are the new games ??
How many times do I have to post this comic??
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Dr. Mario

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Oct 27, 2017
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Lost another 5%. I'm losing money on the stock now from when I bought in May 2017, and it's close to being below what it was when Switch was introduced. After a record breaking first year. Pretty amazing how bad it's doing. I only invest for the fun of it, so no big deal, but losing €500 in two days after a shitty E3 is insult to injury.

I'd imagine for the real reason for the drop isn't what Nintendo didn't show, it's what third parties didn't show. The Switch sold like hotcakes last year and I think there was an expectation, or at least a reasonable hope, that third parties would come out in bigger force for the Switch and that E3 2018 is when we would see those announcements. Switch did get Fortnite which is nice, but some major publishers are still significantly lacking in announcing titles for the Switch compared to what they've announced for PS4/Xbox.
To start with a disclaimer, lots of times when Nintendo stock moves it doesn't make any sense; like there could be great news and it drops, or nothing and it surges. Maybe investors see things we don't see, probably they don't see things we see. I've long given up hope to accurately predict what it will do (though I did predict this drop after the end of the direct).

However, I doubt it's this. Nintendo stock (and the company revenue) was at it's highest during the Wii/DS period, and there was no AAA 3rd party support there either. It's been over 12 years that Nintendo is able to make or break its own fortunes, so I don't think investors will be considering the other companies that much. In any case it's probably giving investors too much credit anyway to understand the market to that degree.

I think (outside of some private fan investors getting angry and pulling out) this enormous slump is due to two reasons:

  1. Large stock traders probably have Twitter crawlers that can automatically buy and sell based on early sentiment.
  2. After a weak H1 and Labo failing to light the charts on fire (so far), investors are looking for news that can increase revenue and turn the tide. But Nintendo didn't show anything big and new. In fact, the lineup that they showed was actively worse than what we already knew about. Fire Emblem got delayed, Yoshi is missing in action, Smash Bros misses most of the holiday season. They only had Mario Party to show for it, but this is not usually a game that can galvanize hardware sales.

I think it really is that simple, and it reflects poorly on Furokawa that he could not read such a simple thing. I wouldn't even be surprised if there's a latent point three where investors are just finally fed up with Nintendo's obtuse bullshit about their long term plans and are just pulling out completely.
 
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Isn't Nintendo next IR Meeting in 2 weeks as well? Perhaps that'll give us more insight into what exactly they're planning for remainder of 2018.
 

Livia

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The only game I have to look forward to is the DLC for Mario + Rabbids, and surprise indie games in the fall lol. That is not much. I was hoping for maybe Retros new game, aswell as Pikmin 4 this fall. I don't think that was too much to ask for when Miyamoto has stated several times over the years that Pikmin 4 is nearly finished. And for Retro, they finished DKTF in november of 2013, so to expect a new game from them in 2018 wasn't asking too much from them or Nintendo..
 

Mysterio79

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I think it really is that simple, and it reflects poorly on Furokawa that he could not read such a simple thing. I wouldn't even be surprised if there's a latent point three where investors are just finally fed up with Nintendo's obtuse bullshit about their long term plans and are just pulling out completely.

He doesn't start till 2 weeks from now.

lmao this thread continues to deliver
 

SuperBlank

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I love Smash so I was happy, but it wasn't a great showing in general tbh.
 

Abominuz

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The show was a let down, i think most where expecting some form of Metroid 4 and maybe some other new suprises. I have a switch but my daughter plays the most on it. Nintendo still caters al lot to the kids and teens. I mis the Nintendo days on the NES,SNES and 64 where the games portfolio was divers.

That mech game was crazy that was a buy day 1.
 

Dr. Mario

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>keep selling and Buying
>know brokers fees
then this is your fault m8
Sure, sure, never denied that. Doesn't change the fact that it is at the level of mid June 2017, and about 1/4th of the market cap evaporated in the last three months.

no matter the place, Stock discussion bring out the most ignorant trolls of the bunch.
Sigh. Real mature.
 

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What I'm shocked by is a video game company who thinks they can bring 2 games to the biggest videogame event of the year.

And I'm not talking about Animal Crossing or such huge titles. There are plenty of smaller titles that could be made and it seems that Nintendo has completely abandoned this idea. Where are the likes of chibi robot, ever oasis, etc ?

Whether you want to admit it or not, Nintendo has a HUGE issue with QUANTITY of games. They make fantastic games but they simply don't make enough games.

And it's particularly worrying considering the fact that the Switch is getting all of Nintendo's efforts as opposed to split between 2 consoles.

So yeah. Where are the new games ??

Nintendo is one of the publishers with more games in a year every year (including this one) so no, not really.
 

Moose the Fattest Cat

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Nintendo could turn this around TOMORROW.

Make all of the first-party games ever made available. On the only portable HD console. With the deepest library of classic games of any other company. Be generous. Give a certain amount away free per month with online subscription.

"Hey, have you ever liked Nintendo at any time? Oh, you have, most people on earth? Great. You can have that on this device and take it on airplanes or in the bath or wherever you want to play Mario 3, 64, Galaxy, 3D World, Odyssey all on one device."

The entire first-party Nintendo library ALL on a portable console could EASILY a perpetual motion machine of sales. This idea has been on the internet for years, moreso now with Switch, and I think the only ones who haven't arrived at this conclusion are Nintendo themselves for whatever godly reason.
 

John Bender

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Oct 27, 2017
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A bit harsh but it will go up again. Some people are just panicking. More 1st party games are coming. It made sense to focus on Smash for 2018. Maybe it's a good time to buy some Nintendo stock now.
Remember in 2016 when they brought one game and everyone decided they had "won" E3.
Pretty sure that's not true at all.
 
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Nintendo is one of the publishers with more games in a year every year (including this one) so no, not really.

And they have to be given the poor support from third parties. Yet it's still far less than enough to have a compelling 2018 lineup overall. Unless they start to drastically expand their first party studios/ or buying new ones, they NEED to get along with third parties and start receiving ports of AAA games. If Ark can be made for the system (really curious to see how it looks/runs), then mostly anything can be down ported to Switch.
 

Django.Mango

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Jan 31, 2018
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Nintendo could turn this around TOMORROW.

Make all of the first-party games ever made available. On the only portable HD console. With the deepest library of classic games of any other company. Be generous. Give a certain amount away free per month with online subscription.

"Hey, have you ever liked Nintendo at any time? Oh, you have, most people on earth? Great. You can have that on this device and take it on airplanes or in the bath or wherever you want to play Mario 3, 64, Galaxy, 3D World, Odyssey all on one device."

The entire first-party Nintendo library ALL on a portable console could EASILY a perpetual motion machine of sales. This idea has been on the internet for years, moreso now with Switch, and I think the only ones who haven't arrived at this conclusion are Nintendo themselves for whatever godly reason.

I dont think its clever to flog the silverware cause of a stock hiccup.
 

Herb Alpert

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Ok, France era, I need advice.
What would be the best way to buy Nintendo stock from here ?
Is a site like boursorama reliable ?
I've never done that before but I think this time it could be worth the shot...
 

ShinySunny

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Dec 15, 2017
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Every Asian stocks are down due to high US interest and weak exchange rate.

So there is that....or we can talk about E3 as the main factor in doing so.
 

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And they have to be given the poor support from third parties. Yet it's still far less than enough to have a compelling 2018 lineup overall. Unless they start to drastically expand their first party studios/ or buying new ones, they NEED to get along with third parties and start receiving ports of AAA games. If Ark can be made for the system (really curious to see how it looks/runs), then mostly anything can be down ported to Switch.

Nintendo have an division, which is EPD. They have 4 studios that makes games and are owned by them, besides partners that also makes games for them.

And no, I disagree that it's not enough. First half is debatable (even if there's games by them every month) but the second half have Octopath Traveller and Captain Toad on June, Monster hunter generations Ultimate as a third party title in august, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 stand alone dlc as a retail/download (just like last year Uncharted stand alone dlc) and Fifa 19/NBA2k19 as third party, Super Mario Party in October, Pokémon Let's go in November and Smash Bros Ultimate in December. It's not a drought or bad for me in any way, even if I'm not personally interested in all of them

With that dumpster of a lineup, I can smell a panic price drop if they enter the holiday season with sub-par momentum and sales.

.... what the hell is this? lol how is this lineup a dumpster fire? what would be a good lineup for you?

And it makes no sense for a price drop.
 

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With that dumpster of a lineup, I can smell a panic price drop if they enter the holiday season with sub-par momentum and sales.


Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Pokemon Lets GO Pikachu
Pokemon Lets GO Eevee
Super Mario Party
Overcooked 2
Paladins
Fortnite
Hollow Knight
Mario Tennis Aces
Ys 8
The World Ends With You
Dragon Ball FighterZ
Dark Souls
FIFA 19
Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Torna The Golden Kingdom
Splatoon 2: Octa
Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker
Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy
Octopath Traveler
Mega Man 11
Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate
Starlink: Battle for Atlas
Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus

This is dumpster lineup?
 
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