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patapon

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Dec 7, 2017
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Oh that's true. TLOU II looked like it had a chance to catch up but Cyberpunk suddenly increased its lead by a couple million.

Yup, TLoU was about to catch Cyberpunk but out of nowhere Cyperpunk is nearly 4 million ahead lol.

Same with Fallout, it was a couple millions behind TLoU but now is ahead.

Definitely ads going on for both games :)
 

BlacJack

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Nov 6, 2017
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Halo showed an extremely short ambiguous teaser. TLOU showed a long and very insane gameplay trailer.

Also OP I get this is based around exclusives but weren't the big Xbox trailers Jump Force, Shadows Die Twice, and most importantly Cyberpunk 2077?

And here lies the main problem with Xbox's conference. Sure those were shown at their conference, but if the list is divided into console exclusives then no, none of those are MS games. MS just had the luxury of giving them their stage for a bit.

Most of the hype around Microsoft's conference isn't about Microsoft's games.
 

zsynqx

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Oct 25, 2017
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Cyberpunk, fallout both are running ads I think, hence the massive increase in views so suddenly. TLoU is the winner in my opinion. No ads, most likes, above 9 million views.
Do you know if dislikes contribute to a game being less featured in recommended? Obviously the like/dislike ratio is a bit lower on TLOU because of the kiss.
 

MeltedDreams

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Oct 27, 2017
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These Gears of War 5 numbers...gotta say i'm not surprised. I have hundreds of hours into first three games, but the newer ones don't offer anything different to keep me playing. Seems like many others have moved on from the series long ago.
The moment when Rod went on stage and announced 3 new games was kinda sad. They don't have creative freedom and should keep working on this.
 

MrTired

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Oct 28, 2017
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Source?

Graphs from the other thread of Cyberpunk's views are very gradual and doesn't feature abrupt spikes like games that had ads.

Cyberpunk, Fallout 76, and Doom look to be running as ads as pointed out above.

Screen_Shot_2018-06-14_at_13.57.01.jpg


You can see when they started.
https://www.resetera.com/posts/9235446
 

MrTired

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Oct 28, 2017
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I think gears 5 is going to be a turnaround. It sounds really good from what I'm hearing.

I would expect Sony games to have more views when you have over twice the install base.
Having less system doesn't stop current and prospective buyers from watching trailer. But let's say it does for the sake of the argument. Why is are the trailers only able to generate interest in small proportion of there fan base?
 

Bennibop

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Oct 30, 2017
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No they aren't, Christ almighty this shit is sad. While God of War and Last of Us sell extremely well and are great games neither will sell to what Halo does

http://me.ign.com/en/ps4/149274/news/the-last-of-us-has-sold-over-17-million-copies

2001 Xbox Halo: Combat Evolved 5.5 million [2]
2004 Xbox Halo 2 8+ million [3]
2007 Xbox 360 Halo 3 12.14 million*
2009 Xbox 360 Halo Wars 2.62 million*
2009 Xbox 360 Halo 3: ODST 6.35 million *
2010 Xbox 360 Halo: Reach 9.87 million*
2011 Xbox 360 Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary 2.43 million *
2012 Xbox 360 Halo 4 9.75 million*
2014 Xbox One Halo: The Master Chief Collection 3.13 million*
2015 Xbox One Halo 5: Guardians 5+ million[4]
 

Deleted member 25108

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Oct 29, 2017
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Awesome to see DMC5 that high on the list, looks like the thirst for that game wasn't just limited to core gaming forums.

DMC is just cool period. I think one of the biggest thing that reboot didn't get is that at it's core, a Devil May Cry is about doing cool stylish tricks and stunts. The most stylish thing Donte did was put on his clothes.

Even if you aren't interested in the game you can appreciate that.
 
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OG_Thrills

OG_Thrills

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Oct 27, 2017
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Halo showed an extremely short ambiguous teaser. TLOU showed a long and very insane gameplay trailer.

Also OP I get this is based around exclusives but weren't the big Xbox trailers Jump Force, Shadows Die Twice, and most importantly Cyberpunk 2077?

I could be wrong but everything besides

Halo
Gears X3
Forza
Cuphead
Ori

Is coming to PS4 including the games you mentioned like Cyberpunk.
 

Betty

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Oct 25, 2017
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No they aren't, Christ almighty this shit is sad. While God of War and Last of Us sell extremely well and are great games neither will sell to what Halo does

Except God of War has probably outsold Halo 5 by now and The Last of Us sold 17 million, more than the last few Halo's combined.

Then there's the quality aspect, which I don't see Halo winning for a long while.

If Halo maintained a phenomenon like Halo 3 you'd be right, but it hasn't.
 

Chaos2Frozen

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Nov 3, 2017
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That Elder Scrolls trailer literally had nothing

Nothing at all.... Nothing at all... Nothing at all....!

Why are so many people watching it?!
 

Navid

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Oct 26, 2017
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Surprised that Spiderman is the lowest out of the 4 games from Sony... Was expecting that to be up there at the front.
 

jroc74

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Oct 27, 2017
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^I think Spider Man is low because it's the only one we've seen the most of before E 3.

Even then, what they showed at E 3 was amazing.

Just for exclusives alone that difference is staggering.
 

bombshell

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Oct 27, 2017
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Denmark
Spider-Man is also the only one of the 4 Sony games where the views are split between the conference demo and post-show open world demo, which I don't think is counted in the views here (?). The other 3 only have the conference demo.
 

DrDeckard

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Oct 25, 2017
8,109
UK
Having less system doesn't stop current and prospective buyers from watching trailer. But let's say it does for the sake of the argument. Why is are the trailers only able to generate interest in small proportion of there fan base?

I have no idea, their could be multiple reasons. Theres a split between IGN etc. They changed the name from gears of war to Gears 5, are people searching and not finding the trailer? I have no idea how it works. The sales numbers after reviews will give us a better idea.

There doesn't seem to be an official Microsoft release of the trailer? I search gear 5 and I see only a gamespot trailer. I search gears of war 5 and I see an IGN trailer and someone called Rapid Trailer with 240k views.

Looks like the Sony Trailers are all uploaded by the offical playstation account? maybe that helps.

Is there official microsoft trailers for Gears? I found one by searching the xbox account on youtube and it's linked to "GEARS OF WAR" 2006
 
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Nightengale

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Oct 26, 2017
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I have no idea, their could be multiple reasons. Theres a split between IGN etc. They changed the name from gears of war to Gears 5, are people searching and not finding the trailer? I have no idea how it works. The sales numbers after reviews will give us a better idea.

There doesn't seem to be an official Microsoft release of the trailer? I search gear 5 and I see only a gamespot trailer. I search gears of war 5 and I see an IGN trailer and someone called Rapid Trailer with 240k views.

Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3ooHNIYwhE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y0Wdei6K5U
 

Parenegade

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Oct 25, 2017
3,589
I could be wrong but everything besides

Halo
Gears X3
Forza
Cuphead
Ori

Is coming to PS4 including the games you mentioned like Cyberpunk.

And here lies the main problem with Xbox's conference. Sure those were shown at their conference, but if the list is divided into console exclusives then no, none of those are MS games. MS just had the luxury of giving them their stage for a bit.

Most of the hype around Microsoft's conference isn't about Microsoft's games.

Why does that matter?
 

MrTired

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Oct 28, 2017
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I have no idea, their could be multiple reasons. Theres a split between IGN etc. They changed the name from gears of war to Gears 5, are people searching and not finding the trailer? I have no idea how it works. The sales numbers after reviews will give us a better idea.

There doesn't seem to be an official Microsoft release of the trailer? I search gear 5 and I see only a gamespot trailer. I search gears of war 5 and I see an IGN trailer and someone called Rapid Trailer with 240k views.

Looks like the Sony Trailers are all uploaded by the offical playstation account? maybe that helps.

Is there official microsoft trailers for Gears? I found one by searching the xbox account on youtube and it's linked to "GEARS OF WAR" 2006
Just checked and your right it doesn't seem to be on Xbox official channel. The change in search shouldn't be to much of the issue as the "Gears 5"
Search term still comes up with the same results. To be honest I'm a bit flabbergasted at the lack of interest cause in my opinion aside from the 5 studio acquisition, Gears was the highlight of the show.
 

Nightengale

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Oct 26, 2017
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Malaysia
This thread is about the level of attention that major first-party trailers got based off YouTube viewership metrics and I've asked that the biggest major third-party trailers be incuded as well for comparison - this thread is not about the conference/showcase.
 

IIFloodyII

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Oct 26, 2017
24,065
Well, actually, people play games, not exclusives.
Nobody will care about exclusives when Red Dead Redemption 2 and Cyberpunk 2077 come out.
What they will care then is which machine has the best performance per dollar on these games.
Yep, it's why the PS4 had it's worst year yet last year selling only 20m consoles. Power>>>everything else!

people only care about were their friends play with most multiplats and once they've decided they usually stick with it for SP multiplats too.


Also, exclusive are games.
 

DrDeckard

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Oct 25, 2017
8,109
UK
Just checked and your right it doesn't seem to be on Xbox official channel. The change in search shouldn't be to much of the issue as the "Gears 5"
Search term still comes up with the same results. To be honest I'm a bit flabbergasted at the lack of interest cause in my opinion aside from the 5 studio acquisition, Gears was the highlight of the show.

I did find Xbox videos but it looks like they aren't sponsored or under the correct game listing. I agree it's a shame about gears 5. Could be a slept on hit for the franchise.
 

ngower

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Nov 20, 2017
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Is there a reason Nintendo aren't included in this analysis? Ive tried looking through the thread for an answer so apologies if it's already been discussed
 

tulpa

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Oct 28, 2017
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People should be careful about reading too much into these numbers.

That being said, they really should give Gears and Halo a break for a while and work on something new. I've lost interest in both franchises for a while (although I want to see more about Infinite) because they just seemed like they had become meathead shooters rather than interesting sci-fi.

I'm glad Gears 5 is going in another direction, but it might not be enough to deter the fatigue. I'd like to see new IP, but that's not even strictly necessary. They have a big well there, let's see a new Fable or Perfect Dark. But I'm not going to read the death of the Gears franchise into some YouTube play count. I'm sure the game will still do decently well.

Glad to see all the interest in Death Stranding, the most exciting exclusive IP from E3. I want the game industry to be unafraid to go in this direction of, taking big, grandiose, creative risks. Even if there are some Heaven's Gate style failures (which I don't think DS will be).

There aren't enough games pushing the art of the medium forward. There are a lot of good games, but a lot of them are a bit too much of the safe crowd-pleasing blockbuster variety.
 
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UnluckyKate

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Oct 25, 2017
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All people I talk too, aren't even aware new Gears are coming out. To them, the original gears were their characters and since the story ended in 3, most of them stop giving a dman about Gears all together.

Maybe it's really about the cast ?
 

Heart_Attack

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Nov 1, 2017
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Gears is still huge in Latin America. Mexicans love that IP. I have no explanation in why The franchise is in decline in the US. All the games in the series, except Judgement have been good-great.
 

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Why does that matter?

It matters it terms of sales? People don't give a shit about on which stage a game appears on, they don't care if the X verison is the superior version (X enhanced). Games like Cyberpunk, DMC, Metro etc.) are all selling better on PS4 than on Xbone according to Amazon US and UKs best seller lists.

MS conference was great, then after a few days everyone mostly forgets about it and don't care which stage a multiplatt game appears on or which version is the superior version.
 

IIFloodyII

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Oct 26, 2017
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Gears is still huge in Latin America. Mexicans love that IP. I have no explanation in why The franchise is in decline in the US. All the games in the series, except Judgement have been good-great.
As the post above yours said, I think it's because it had a satisfying ending with 3 and once you do a ending, it can be quite hard to get people to care for a sequel to a finished story. Especially if you don't completely change it up (like God of War did for example).
 
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OG_Thrills

OG_Thrills

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Oct 27, 2017
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I did find Xbox videos but it looks like they aren't sponsored or under the correct game listing. I agree it's a shame about gears 5. Could be a slept on hit for the franchise.

Gears 5 will sell well. It's Gears Of War after all. I think what you're seeing is gamer apathy for the IP. Announcing 3 games from the same universe probably watered down the ips enthusiasm level even further.
 

Fukuzatsu

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Oct 25, 2017
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Forgive me if this has been asked, but does Crackdown 3 not have a trailer for this list?

It would probably be this one, hosted on IGN's Youtube (~225k views):
 

DrDeckard

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Oct 25, 2017
8,109
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Is the last of us 2 trailer sponsored? No matter what I search for "last of" "last of us" "of us" it comes up at the very top. Number one slot
 

Bjones

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Oct 30, 2017
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It's trailer views the last of us2 probably got just as many people watching and posting multiple times for bad reason as much as good.
 

GamerEra

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Oct 27, 2017
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Gears 5 will sell well. It's Gears Of War after all. I think what you're seeing is gamer apathy for the IP. Announcing 3 games from the same universe probably watered down the ips enthusiasm level even further.
If Gears 4 is anything to go by, it will sell OK at best. If you take GamePass into account, it might actually sell a lot less than Gears 4. Depends on how many subscribers the service has by then.
 

Dussck

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Oct 27, 2017
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I always thought another Gears of War was the most boring thing ever, but Gears 5 deserves more after seeing the trailer. Looks like they are trying some new things and it looks pretty damn good as well!