Glad to hear I am not the only one. Can't stand the guy.
Hope Chloe gets the help she needs and can move on from this.
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Chloe Dykstra Posts About Domestic/Sexual Abuse at the hands of Chris Hardwick
- Thread starter Senator Toadstool
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Glad to hear I am not the only one. Can't stand the guy.
Hope Chloe gets the help she needs and can move on from this.
You really can't take anyone at face value. He always seemed like a likeable enough person from what little I've seen, but that's some nasty allegations
Enough with this derail. Knock it off.
Let this be a hard reminder to everyone:
Lots of people are nice. Too few are genuinely kind. And yes, there is a difference.
Hardwick wears a smile but it's hollow, a mere veil. Something always seemed...off.
This is a terrible way to confirm one's suspicions about a person.
Lots of people are nice. Too few are genuinely kind. And yes, there is a difference.
Hardwick wears a smile but it's hollow, a mere veil. Something always seemed...off.
This is a terrible way to confirm one's suspicions about a person.
I'm taking about you and your comments not about the allegations.
Damn, how could someone treat someone else like that? I liked Chris a lot too. Reading that whole thing just got worse and worse to the point where it hurt to read. Hope the best for her.
I always liked the guy and was bummed that he didn't seem to move on to better things after G4. Genuine dude who deserved more.
Wait, what? What does that tweet have to do with the current situation? It's about that dude who played the flute during E3.
His alcoholism was always an issue, too. I'm sure he knows he was a shithead then (because he's admitted it), but I guess I always assumed that after going sober, that a lot of his worst tendencies had been dealt with. Clearly there are some more toxic issues which really had little to do with the alcohol in the first place.
When I first started reading Chloe's article, I didn't think some of the rules he set down seemed so bad, as it is clear he needs to lead a regimented lifestyles as not to relapse and, having some celebrity, the paranoia of unwanted opportunists intruding on one's personal life is understandable. It was *at that point* maybe she should've gotten out.
But then you read further and see all the other, monstrous stuff that just blows my mind. It's clear that he simply didn't see her as a person. It's one thing to control your own impulses, but to try and control someone else's entire life, too? A lot of that is unforgivable.
Having followed Hardwick for a very long time, and Chloe for that matter back in the old AOTS days I liked him but you could clearly see he was driven.
Watching where he started and where he is (or was before this) and watching his social media (very me me look at me look at what I have look who I am with look who I know) he never came off as a warm person.
Funny sure, charming sure, but never warm.
The letter is disturbing, especially if "starfishing " is the anal metaphor that I believe it is as well we her descriptions of the whole thing.
I used to be one of those that would think "why didn't she leave" but when you grow and when you actually learn to step out of your bubble you can very easily sympathize and understand and sadly it is a situation that far too many have to experience.
I am glad she is getting the support she needs and I am glad people are raising their voices that they have her back.
I will say, me being me I see some of the responses from some names out there as being empty and sadly I think Hardwick did a hell of a job burying Chloe to his incrowd but if even some of them accept what is right than it is good.
Watching where he started and where he is (or was before this) and watching his social media (very me me look at me look at what I have look who I am with look who I know) he never came off as a warm person.
Funny sure, charming sure, but never warm.
The letter is disturbing, especially if "starfishing " is the anal metaphor that I believe it is as well we her descriptions of the whole thing.
I used to be one of those that would think "why didn't she leave" but when you grow and when you actually learn to step out of your bubble you can very easily sympathize and understand and sadly it is a situation that far too many have to experience.
I am glad she is getting the support she needs and I am glad people are raising their voices that they have her back.
I will say, me being me I see some of the responses from some names out there as being empty and sadly I think Hardwick did a hell of a job burying Chloe to his incrowd but if even some of them accept what is right than it is good.
I've poorly explained myself on that post. I'll edit it since it's derailing the thread. Let's do this:
I look forward to hearing his response.
Didn't think this story would blow up like this. Something tells me Chris is the kind to go down kicking and screaming though...
There is absolutely no way he doesn't know about his best friend's tendencies or at least have a glimpse into them. I know that people are sometimes completely different behind closed doors, but stuff like this has signs over time when you're that close with someone.
Not altogether surprising. The best description I've heard to nutshell who he is thus far was "Ryan Seacrest of the nerd world."
Add me to the list of people who irrationally hated Chris Hardwick for years.
Dude lost a shit ton of weight and started feeling himself a little bit too much. He's the embodiment of everything wrong with "nerd culture", and if this is the shit he does when he became conventionally attractive, then this only highlights the fact for him and many others like him.
It's the whole "chads" bullshit that those redpill asshats believe in. And to me, this reads like a "a ha, now that I'm in the physical condition to actually get the people i want to be attracted to me, I'm going to treat them like I always said I would on the internet!"
That makes it all worse, to be honest.
Dude lost a shit ton of weight and started feeling himself a little bit too much. He's the embodiment of everything wrong with "nerd culture", and if this is the shit he does when he became conventionally attractive, then this only highlights the fact for him and many others like him.
It's the whole "chads" bullshit that those redpill asshats believe in. And to me, this reads like a "a ha, now that I'm in the physical condition to actually get the people i want to be attracted to me, I'm going to treat them like I always said I would on the internet!"
That makes it all worse, to be honest.
Some of Chris's personality traits have been on display for years. I think a lot of people just took it as the way he coped with his sobriety. I think people that were his friends just accepted that he had that kind of rigidity as his mantra or whatever. I don't think anyone knew it was this bad though. Or that that was the way he viewed and spoke to Chloe in private. Chris has been a showman for practically his entire adult life. It doesn't surprise me at all that he kpet a lid on his crazy in public for as long as he did.
I honestly don't care for him much either. However, something I've been kind of thinking about -- and this is by no means a call-out of anyone else as I'm trying to be exclusively introspective -- is that I think the fact that this kind of jumps out at me kind of poisons the well. I almost feel as though by admitting it, it undermines my credibility of trying to be empathetic. Like there's almost a sort of underlying insinuation that perhaps if I thought better of Hardwick I might be less willing to believe the accusation. And I don't really think that in an ideal world that should factor into anything.
Sorry, I just kind of meandering incoherently here. Carry on.
I can honestly say I don't know a thing about this guy, but nobody should have to go through the abuse described in that post.
I hope women keep speaking up.
I hope women keep speaking up.
I have to admit, I liked the guy way back in the AotS days. He just had such a fun energy that I preferred him to Kevin Perriera. Watched a bunch of his @ Midnight episodes. His Nerdist show that was briefly on BBCA was... strange a couple times, but I didn't really think much of it. Eventually it seemed like he was everywhere, I couldn't help but feel happy for his success.
Now though? Ugh. I have to admit, I'm not one of those, "Yeah I KNEW he was scum all along!" people and yet number 3 in the article I can totally picture him doing voice and all. What a disgusting human being. Always like Chloe Dykstra on Heroes of Cosplay. I'm glad she's gotten away from him AND has ammo to take him to court if need be.
The fact that he is even responding to this gives me mixed feelings.
On one hand, Chris was his best friend. On the other, it feels like this is going to be "I'm sad and believe Chloe but this is not the Chris I grew up with".
I doubt that goes well for him if Chloe does in fact have receipts.
For sure. I wasn't attacking you personally. We just have to be careful and treat these things sensitively. Especially on the internet, things can turn south quick or be made to look very bad for individuals who may not even be involved!
Read the full Medium article and words cannot accurately express my newfound hatred for an individual. No one deserves to be treated that way by anyone. And while I wouldn't say I liked the guy, I always respected him, at least for everything he's created / been involved with for the better part of the last decade. He fully deserves everything negative to come his way from here on out. Fuck him.
Chris Hardwick for some reason found his way on multiple appearances and nobody particularly liked or asked him to stay, he is the equivalent of that one loner who sits next to the cool kids and thinks by association, he too will be cool, when in reality nobody give a fuck about him,
Pretty sure "starfishing" is when one partner just lays there, basically uninvolved and letting it happen, even when they don't actually want it to. Sometimes it's just a lack of motivation ("lets get it over with"), other times it's because you're too afraid of your partner's reaction to tell them you don't like it/want it. At that point, it basically becomes rape.
Considering Chloe said she has proof, that would surprise me unless this honestly wasn't true.
Which is usually unlikely in situations like this. While it can of course happen, I believe stats show that it's pretty rare for the woman to be lying about these things.
His response will be interesting.
I'm not a fan anymore but dude is a workaholic. Probably contributed to his success more than anything.
Oh boo fuckin hoo. It's fine to feel that way in private but don't come out with tepid fucking statements like this and bemoan how this is affecting You. Your "best friend" ruined this woman's fucking life for 3 years and is an absolute monster. I have sympathy for Wil that this is hard for him, but if you're going to say anything publically you should say something that supports survivors.
He worked his ass off and is known to be a likable guy.
The anger some people on forums had for him based on him simply being everywhere never translated to real life.
It's clear that he has legitimate friends in the industry that like him. There seems to be actual shock here based on tweets by Felicia Day and Matt Mira.
I agree but I think it's just that since their friendship is so well known he's been badgered to say something. Letting people know that he's taking time to process it before making a statement isn't the worst thing in the world.
In the article, Chloe's mom was in the hospital room when Chris made the sex comment. So.
Plus, a lot of tweets that I'm seeing are from people now coming out to say Chris is a racist and sexist shit.
You mean like that part where he said "before I'm ready to make a public statement".
Why should he have to censor his post? Obviously he has more history and insight about Hardwick beyond the sea of identical posts.
His tweet did not deserve this kind of vitriol. He is likely receiving a lot of contact from friends and media to comment.
It's unfair to judge close friends of the accused if they didn't word their response perfectly. Hardwick is the person to focus on.
Honestly, knowing the way he talks out of everything in that story the sex comment actually sounded like a joke, poorly timed of course given what the surgery was for but still.
edit: I also saw some posts on twitter saying racist but I'm not sure where that was coming from. It's nothing I've ever seen even hinted at in his comedy or podcasts.
This is so damn sad. And to me, genuinely surprising.
I admit, I've fell off from his podcast for a long while, but there was a point in my life where it genuinely helped me. Not necessarily from Hardwick himself, but as a platform, the podcast meant a lot.
But now looking back, I think it was shortly after he and Chloe broke up or maybe it was right after he got serious with his wife Lydia, he was talking (in general and vague terms obviously) about how things recently got better and "less dramatic" and I believe he described his wife several times as being "easy" to deal with... And with this for context, it makes sick to my stomach, and genuinely worried if he's repeating his abuse with his wife.
Jesus... All I can say is that I hope the best for Chloe.
I admit, I've fell off from his podcast for a long while, but there was a point in my life where it genuinely helped me. Not necessarily from Hardwick himself, but as a platform, the podcast meant a lot.
But now looking back, I think it was shortly after he and Chloe broke up or maybe it was right after he got serious with his wife Lydia, he was talking (in general and vague terms obviously) about how things recently got better and "less dramatic" and I believe he described his wife several times as being "easy" to deal with... And with this for context, it makes sick to my stomach, and genuinely worried if he's repeating his abuse with his wife.
Jesus... All I can say is that I hope the best for Chloe.
No, I get your viewpoint, and it's perfectly valid, and me disliking the guy so heavily could easily be factoring in to why I'm not jumping in on his side. But my biases aside, his personality is very much like that of the nerd of my description: the person who was always resentful of the world and those around them and once they get in a position to where they can actually get what they want, they become outlandish assholes and controlling.
It's the Internet. This vitriol is common place and should be expected unfortunately.
There's been some noise that Wil himself has some shit, and there's no way he didn't know what he was really like.
Yeah, I don't see his comment there as problematic on its own. Compounded with everything else and who it was directed.
This tweet is a public statement. Look, I'm not mad at Wil and I get where he's coming from but he goofed on this one. Either wait until you're ready to say something valuable or don't say anything at all. And don't refer to this piece of shit in public as Your "best friend."
I have a Wheaton story but it's more sad than problematic.