methane47

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So the solution is to just ... Do nothing?
People don't want their platform of choice to get left behind, nor to leave their friends behind either.

not do nothing. i want ppl to be accurately informed
we should try to force sony to talk about the policy that is restricting cross plat support.

and vote with your wallet
 

Wrellie

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What are you TALKING about?

Just this gen alone:

Minecraft - XBO/Switch
Rocket League - XBO/Switch
Paladins - XBO/Switch
Chess Ultra - XBO/Switch
Pinball FX - XBO/Switch
Mantis Burn Racing - XBO/Switch
Crazy Justice - XBO/Switch
Hover - XBO/Switch

Pinball FX is not an example you would want to use in this argument since you can play between Xbox and Switch, but you have to re-buy all your tables again on the Switch to do this.
 

Darknight

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So the solution is to just ... Do nothing?
People don't want their platform of choice to get left behind, nor to leave their friends behind either.
You seem to be missing his point. The point is this is just the beginning and that this isn't a sprint; it's a marathon. Expecting big changes in a short period I'll do if time is going to lead to disappointment. By all means don't give up but be realistic on how slow this is going to move. The same thing happened a year ago over Minecraft when it came to uproar and look where it ended up. The topic faded away. We went through this a year ago and very little has changed. This will happen, and pressure needs to be applied just people need to not get bored and move on when you don't get your instant gratification.
 

Wrellie

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I was just listing cross-play titles, not cross progression.

Well, the part that everyone is upset about is cross-progression (purchases and progress made on an account not carrying over). Just like Fortnite, Pinball FX does not allow this between Xbox and Switch, so it's a terrible example to use in this thread.
 

Saint-14

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Switch outsold PS4 throughout the holiday months and many months last year. It's projected to sell more this year.
I'm assuming you are talking about NA, there is a whole a lot of markets out there, PS4 sodl the most last fiscal year, it's also a 5 year old system, it would be bad if Switch can't outsell it.

Xbox just won E3 and owned NA last gen. The console market is extremely volatile.
Winning E3 means nothing when you check the reality and console sales.
 

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Hmm… This is appearing on TVs in game, Switch only! (Source) The countdown will end on Tuesday. It might just be related to an update, or maybe the ability to play with our own locked out Epic Games accounts. I mean, why would it be ONLY on Switch?
They would be stupid to make an ARG out of a PR issue.
 

Mysterio79

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I'm assuming you are talking about NA, there is a whole a lot of markets out there, PS4 sodl the most last fiscal year, it's also a 5 year old system, it would be bad if Switch can't outsell it.


Winning E3 means nothing when you check the reality and console sales.
Uhhh why is that? First years are usually among the lowest sales in popular consoles.

Like Switch outsold PS4 in its first year launch aligned for instance.
 

Edge

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Hmm… This is appearing on TVs in game, Switch only! (Source) The countdown will end on Tuesday. It might just be related to an update, or maybe the ability to play with our own locked out Epic Games accounts. I mean, why would it be ONLY on Switch?


Because they use all platforms now for simple teasing. On PS4 you have a different pic there but it all leads to just one thing, the next season.
If this was related to cross play, why did the rocket logo appear on the villain base? On the switch? Huh? Huh?

Right, because it has nothing to with fantasy Nintendo stuff.

People, please.

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Korezo

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Maybe they can at least let people transfer items to a new account?

They should do that one time period thing the warframe guys did allowing for pc users to transfer there account to ps4, I don't play warframe anymore because I don't want to play the ps4 version anymore. Transfers are possible, I don't know why Epic can't do it if its all there own shit. But warframe guys have talked about maybe one day allowing ps4 users to transfer to pc, but I don't think that ever happened.
 

Terrell

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You're bringing controllers that need an adapter to work as an argument? Dude you know adaptors exist for other consoles too right?

Yea, with a special dongle you can buy to make it possible.

Here is a dongle to solve your problem:
https://www.flashbackltd.com/produc...y-GW8-zCvxNj0jQAqXca2xtIQQGVjj9gaAhkoEALw_wcB

And you can use that NOW! Any other genius examples you wish to share?
Now what?

You've basically made my point for me.

The post I replied to was saying that DS3s weren't compatible out of the box due to "button layout". If that were such a concern or a viable reason, GameCube controllers would face a similar issue, dongle or not, since they lack Home buttons (and now Share buttons with the Switch, which was one of the precise examples listed in the post I replied to), among other major differences. So the fact that it can work with 3rd-party device assistance makes the argument that I replied to about why Sony themselves won't permit it even MORE bullshit.

Maybe look at what was replied to? Because yeah, the fact that using GameCube controllers requires a dongle doesn't invalidate that it has a VASTLY different button layout and still works across 3 consoles it wasn't designed for and doesn't share a point-for-point interface layout with.
 
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Dark Knight

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They should do that one time period thing the warframe guys did allowing for pc users to transfer there account to ps4, I don't play warframe anymore because I don't want to play the ps4 version anymore. Transfers are possible, I don't know why Epic can't do it if its all there own shit. But warframe guys have talked about maybe one day allowing ps4 users to transfer to pc, but I don't think that ever happened.
I could honestly see them working on this right now. I'm sure there's a lot of account system infrastructure stuff they'd have to prepare.

Why they didn't have it ready for Switch launch I couldn't tell you.
 

Jaded Alyx

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Well, the part that everyone is upset about is cross-progression (purchases and progress made on an account not carrying over). Just like Fortnite, Pinball FX does not allow this between Xbox and Switch, so it's a terrible example to use in this thread.
I understand this but again, it was merely a response to a specific conversation about cross-play titles that was going on in this thread. Someone said there are only 2, I corrected them.
 

RadioJoNES

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Tempted to make a vid where I do the fortnite default dance then proceed to smash my PS4 with a hammer
 

NLCPRESIDENT

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You've basically made my point for me.

The post I replied to was saying that DS3s weren't compatible out of the box due to "button layout". If that were such a concern or a viable reason, GameCube controllers would face a similar issue, dongle or not, since they lack Home buttons (and now Share buttons with the Switch, which was one of the precise examples listed in the post I replied to), among other major differences. So the fact that it can work with 3rd-party device assistance makes the argument that I replied to about why Sony themselves won't permit it even MORE bullshit.

Maybe look at what was replied to? Because yeah, the fact that using GameCube controllers requires a dongle doesn't invalidate that it has a VASTLY different button layout and still works across 3 consoles it wasn't designed for and doesn't share a point-for-point interface layout with.
Bro, you're mad over some dumb shit. They're old controllers either way, who gets mad over something so trivial when there are ways to get what you want!? Lol, the DS4 is the best selling controller of all time. So not too many people share your attitude fam.
 
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Doctor_Thomas

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As I keep saying, the response of a few people on a forum is not going to have any impact if articles on mainstream news have no impact.

The majority of people just do not care because the majority of people don't own multiple consoles, an enthusiast website is a minority and unless the general populace care, then nothing will change.

As much as people want this to blow up like the XB1 Reveal, it's not going to happen because it doesn't really affect that many people.
 
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As I keep saying, the response of a few people on a forum is not going to have any impact if articles on mainstream news have no impact.

The majority of people just do not care because the majority of people don't own multiple consoles, an enthusiast website is a minority and unless the general populace care, then nothing will change.

As much as people want this to blow up like the XB1 Reveal, it's not going to happen because it doesn't really affect that many people.
Bingo
 

RadioJoNES

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Well, we can't just give up either. I've never been burnt this bad by a game company before :/
 

Mysterio79

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Well, we can't just give up either. I've never been burnt this bad by a game company before :/
I think many of the people trying to downplay this want this issue to go away, but in reality it's only to the determent of Sony because if they have enough people defending them over this they will never change heading into next gen.