I really wanted the demo this weekend to end E3 in style :(
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Resident Evil 2 Remake Gameplay Videos & Discussion
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I really wanted the demo this weekend to end E3 in style :(
Finally someone else who see's it the same way I do. RE3 just doesn't have enough merit to require a full $59.99 remake, an expanded stand alone or DLC campaign to RE2 Remake will be sufficient.
In the gamespot video Leon ended up with a bitemark on his neck which was very visible during the cutscene.
Makes sense that they'd add details like that but it then might also help if they add a scene where it's explained more.
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RE3 was a longer game than RE2, and they shared very little in common. I also think there's a lot of room for RE2 to be expanded by itself, and a lot of room for RE3 to be expanded by itself. Plus it'd be weird that RE3 just stopped existing as an entity in the future. It'd ruin the series numbering. Plus both RE2 and RE3 had a ton of scrapped concepts worth exploring (REmake 2 is pulling a surprising amount from RE1.5 and RE2 concept art, Ada is wearing a trenchcoat she wore in RE2 concept art, Mr. X's fedora self is from RE2 concept art, Marvin's expanded role is from 1.5, etc.).
RE2 and RE3 being conjoined never made sense to me, nor is what I want personally. Both games do far more different and uniquely than some give them credit for, and there's enough potential for both to stand alone and build further on their own ideas than be watered down and slapped together.
RE2 and RE3 being conjoined never made sense to me, nor is what I want personally. Both games do far more different and uniquely than some give them credit for, and there's enough potential for both to stand alone and build further on their own ideas than be watered down and slapped together.
One thing's for damn sure. Jill had a great voice actress.
Yeah, 3 really isn't a worthy successor for 2. I think CV was supposed to be the true mainline sequel, if memory serves me well.
I consider RE2+RE3+Outbreak to be Raccoon City trilogy. Hell, make Outbreak as the multiplayer for RE2make, now you get the ultimate Raccoon City experience.
The soundtrack seems gutted, replaced with silence or ambient noise like RE7 (my least favorite thing about that game). The main hall has a brief, weak rendition of the original track that stays in the background instead of defining the atmosphere like the original ost did. I can get over the loss of fixed cameras- the game absolutely has changed with more of an action bend, regardless how often people say it hasn't, but it still seems firmly horror based and well done. I can get over it and take this for what it is, but the soundtrack is unforgivable from what we've seen so far.
From what I've seen, only the PS4 preorder bonus includes the original option. I've yet to see it for other platforms... I'm sure someone will mod it in for PC, though. Because Jesus Christ, how do you toss one of the best soundtracks gaming has ever had in the garbage.
Cris and Albert's mod is all RE4 needs. The GC visuals actually hold up really well aside from the textures and a few bad models, which have all been overhauled with great results. If you add in the ambient occlusion that just became possible a few months back, I don't think there's any complaint left about the visuals.
All they need to do is put it on a button that isn't already heavily used. I always get fucked over at a point where three dogs are charging at once because I wait until the last moment with the shotgun to get them all in one hit, and Jill dodges instead and leaves me with dogs surrounding me every time. Revelations 2 had an adequate take on the same idea.
What the fuck! I had to google this and had never noticed it. No one seems to care about Tim Robbins...
Stupid people, liking things about the original game.
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Still can't believe what they've created, this is the RE game I've been waiting for since 3. I loved RE4 but thematically it didn't feel like RE.
But they've taken the building blocks put in place with 4 and created the ultimate RE game and the most cinematic one.
The music, location and most importantly THREAT is quintessentially Resident Evil.
Its weired that I feel 5/6 to be spin offs rather then mainline games.
Hope this means we get something similar for 8.
But they've taken the building blocks put in place with 4 and created the ultimate RE game and the most cinematic one.
The music, location and most importantly THREAT is quintessentially Resident Evil.
Its weired that I feel 5/6 to be spin offs rather then mainline games.
Hope this means we get something similar for 8.
Like, fair enough if you think RE3 didn't add anything to the storyline (because that's true), but I refuse to accept the line of thinking that it can just be slapped onto this remake and be called a day. RE2 and RE3 are so different from each other that if you say RE3 should be an expansion to RE2 you might as well say that RE2 should have been an expansion to RE1, they're that different.
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Adding netcode and all the scenarios, enemies, and locations from Outbreak 1 and 2 while bringing them to modern standard and reimaginong them with the new mechanics, recreating it from the ground-up would sky rocket development cost to easily be at least 3x more than it currently is and easily would add another 4-6 years onto development time. It's not a feasible concept.
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While I agree with you, claiming RE2 to be an expansion of 1 is pretty much on point. It hits most of the same beats as 1, follows the exact same pacing and trajectory, and even recycles some of the puzzles right down to the assets (glares at the "UMB" boxes used to cross a body of water).
Both games feature their biggest areas as their first areas, and said area is navigated with 4 themed keys and there are 4 themed key items needed to unlock a certain door to finally leave. One of the four main keys is found through a detour (Guard House in RE1, Basement in RE2) that sends players back to the initial area to unlock new rooms with existing hallways populated by stronger enemies (Hunters in RE1, Lickers in RE2). Then players explore an underground area (tunnels in RE1, sewers in RE2) where they need to find and use the Eagle and Wolf medals (literally the same key items in both games lol) to access the lab where things will eventually blow up, rocket launcher, self destruct sequence, etc. The MO Disk is also the same key item used in both RE1 and 2, although it's used for different purposes.
Yeah RE2 and RE1 do have similarities, but we've seen with this remake that Capcom are mixing things up and adding a lot of stuff to beef up RE2. I just don't understand how you can look at what Capcom are doing with this remake and think a potential RE3 remake would just be the PS1 game with nothing added to it.
Absolutely. I would want Capcom to take steps as drastic with RE3 (my favorite classic RE game) as they are with this game. All of the possibilities with the varied events and Nemesis as a stalking threat get me so excited. I'd also love to see Nicholai and Mikhail explored further.
Yeah there's so much they could do to add on to RE3 to make it even better that making it an expansion would render any drastic changes pretty much impossible. It's funny because making RE3 an expansion would more than likely lead to it being pretty much the same as the PS1 version which would result in it being exactly how these people don't like it, but by remaking it you can look at it from another point of view and fix the things that they have problems with, but no they'd rather it be a expansion and keep it the same. It's just funny to me is all.
I like how they contextualized the weirdness of the design/layout of the RCPD a bit. (There's a line saying the place used to be a museum.) That was one of the things I really appreciated about the first REmake, and I'm glad they're at least doing a little bit of it in this.
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It's semi-hilarious to compare the original game's scene with Marvin to the Remake. Going from the ultra-cheesy, "Your party's been... canceled...", to an actually weighted scene that perfectly encapsulates Leon's early naivity to want to help in hell and Marvin's stern but good-willed notion to help his new coworker while under pain.
No joke, I think the scene between Leon and Marvin is one of the best story scenes that the series has had due to the performances and subtle details (camera work, animations, etc), and if that's the level REmake 2 is aiming for with its story scenes, I'm looking forward to it.
What's interesting is it gives us an insight and better look at the designs of Claire and Ada.
I don't think anyone thinks that.
What we're (me) saying is that it would make so much more sense. They have the engine in place and designed to handle RE2/3 already, they're expanding Raccoon City so they have a new road map or design for Raccoon City in the new engine so that would be great for RE3 as well and finally utilizing existing assets/engine would make the overhead for the RE3 campaign a lot less and let developers release it quickly instead of a potential 3 to 4 year wait.
If those reddit rumors are true and they're planning to realistically launch RE3 Remake by the end of 2019 or early 2020 that means they're very heavily reusing the assets and engine development for this (RE2) remake. Why not take it to it's logical conclusion and release it as a $29.99 or so single player expansion or stand alone disc titled Resident Evil: Nemesis or Resident Evil: Last Escape.
Is that art from someone official or fan art ?
To be fair they've already kinda ruined the number consistency by releasing Resident Evil 2 after Resident Evil 7 :p doesn't look like they're putting any kind of subtitle like Remake etc to the title, so by all means, it's Resident Evil 2 after 7.
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It's not official is it? :(
I didn't realise it's not the Capcom guy's account. Man I don't get twitter.
I hope it stays to that level throughout but the trailer already had some cheese laid on pretty thick.
YES! or like rise of the tomb raider. Be even cooler if they did it for all characters and enemies. But that might be asking too much.
Really want to see Chief Irons, Ben and the scene where the agents take the G-Virus from Birkin.
My first RE game was actually CV (didn't own any PlayStation system until much later). Even today I wonder why they made no ports of it beyond the PS3 and 360 versions. It would've required the least work and it seems like Capcom already put a lot of work porting it to MT Framework.
Story-wise what's disappointing about CV is that its ending was essentially supposed to hype up a sort of climax that got skipped over in RE4, and then was hastily put together in RE5 and an extra chapter in Umbrella Chronicles.
Gameplay-wise though, CV just took the formula from RE1 and RE2 to its logical conclusion. It was criticized for being a bit too much of that formula for one game, so even then it was clear the franchise needed to move in some other direction that ended up being RE4, 5, and 6. RE7 kinda revealed that the franchise didn't need a change in genre, it just needed to adopt actual 3D controls.
Story-wise what's disappointing about CV is that its ending was essentially supposed to hype up a sort of climax that got skipped over in RE4, and then was hastily put together in RE5 and an extra chapter in Umbrella Chronicles.
Gameplay-wise though, CV just took the formula from RE1 and RE2 to its logical conclusion. It was criticized for being a bit too much of that formula for one game, so even then it was clear the franchise needed to move in some other direction that ended up being RE4, 5, and 6. RE7 kinda revealed that the franchise didn't need a change in genre, it just needed to adopt actual 3D controls.
I had the chance to get this for $20 a decade ago but didn't. I wish I did, the GC version of 2,3 and CVX are tricky to find these days.Broke out my only copy of RE2 to re-visit.
Dude I just started RE2 again for the first time in like 12 years the other day, I forgot how bad the cheese really was, it's just over the top. I even remembered most of the lines but just the delivery, jeez.
Is there a physical deluxe edition or is it that digital deluxe nonsense?
Interesting note from watching Max's stream last night.
He says you can't judge the games aiming or the players aiming skills in any of the demos shown off of the game as every monitor that the game was demoed on didn't have game mode activated and instead were running out of the box settings. He says the input lag was very noticeable and it made aiming very difficult.
He says you can't judge the games aiming or the players aiming skills in any of the demos shown off of the game as every monitor that the game was demoed on didn't have game mode activated and instead were running out of the box settings. He says the input lag was very noticeable and it made aiming very difficult.
Broke out my only copy of RE2 to re-visit.
I got the whole RE collection for GC!
Broke out my only copy of RE2 to re-visit.
Wish I could get them on Switch.
I wish they had stuck with the laser sight. I've been wanting a true remake of RE4, every since this gen started, I hope this is enough motivation to move forward.
It would be really hard to play them in handheld mode. It was bad enough on the original PSP.
Because of the d-pad? They could implement REmaster's analog movements to it.
There will be a physical. Though likely it'll just be a code in the box for the deluxe items. Which is the standard these days.
Since it's just weapons, costumes, and that original soundtrack mode.
Oh, I'm fine with a code, I just didn't want to have to buy the game digitally to get the extras.
Maybe we'll get a fixed camera RE4 and people can feel what some RE2 fans are feeling with this remake haha :/
I actually thought that myself at first, but that's actually something that's been established in RE lore for a while now. Found that out wiki diving.