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MLB 2018 Season |OT| Introducing Shohei OhtAAAni
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In fairness, I wouldn't have given JD the money he wanted, either. Tons of those signings from this offseason end up being crummy. Things will get real awkward with the union if Harper draws less interest than we originally thought, which could happen.
Not that the Player's Union is going to get any concession whatsoever. Adding the DH to the NL (which is going to happen sooner rather than later, imo) is probably worth more than the players' grievances over this.
No, Boston can go a year without winning the division.
Well this would absolutely grind my gears more than anything. Hand is secretly one of the best bullpen arms in baseball. I'd rather see him go to the Astros.
They're not gonna give up a MLB 3rd Baseman with less than a year of service time for a reliever they don't really need. Hand is good, but the shelf life on relievers isn't something I'd personally be willing to give up MLB talent for, particularly every day level talent.
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Eh it's still early. I doubt that will be the final asking price. Then again maybe I'm severely overestimating the ability of the Padres front office.
Most of my fellow Padres fans have overly high expectations of what a decent reliever will return. I don't see it; the Padres grow relievers on trees.
Hell, half of our farm system is made up of guys we poached for random relievers/starters we claimed off of waivers. The Marlins traded us a guy named Chris Paddack for Fernando Rodney in 2016. Right now he's 3-1 with a 1.91 ERA and a 70:3 K/BB split. Granted, that's high-A, but he missed a year to injury.
I mean, sure, I'm not disagreeing with that, but Padres fans are seriously suggesting we should ask for Miguel Andujar for Hand, which is totally absurd.
Yeah, Hand just signed a 3/$20m deal, and Devers is a long-term control guy making min, would be silly for the Sox to pull the trigger on. I'd be way okay with it, but it ain't happening.
There's no reason to trade Hand early, either because even a shutdown reliever isn't going to take you from bad to good and it's more likely teams are going to be desperate for pen help in late-June.
The Chapman trade to the Cubs screwed with everybody's expectations. That was a perfect storm of desperation for a team that had one hole left in its best chance to win a title in over 100 years. That isn't happening again yet people are acting like it's the standard, hence the outrage over the Herrera trade yesterday and the Royals not getting Soto or another top tier prospect.
Edit: Miller trade to Cleveland also had a similar effect. Another team desperate to capitalize on its best shot to end a long drought. Another factor that can't be replicated is the typical Brian Cashman mystical nonsense that helped with the returns.
Sure. They likely had an even better chance of bringing in a good return last year and didn't. I don't see the contract or another year on the arm helping Hand's value. Guess we'll have to see who gets desperate, or perhaps the Pads actually think they're getting close or are trying to justify the Myers and Hosmer contracts by trying to force a window? Who knows.
I think the contract helped his value, but I don't think the contract is nearly as relevant to the most frequently mentioned trade partners like the Red Sox and Yankees who have no real need to add Brad Hand beyond the rich getting richer.
I mean, that goes out the window if Kimbrel or Chapman's arms explode or something.
Devers has been a bit streaky this year and he is still figuring out 3rd base, but man you can see his talent for hitting. I wouldn't give him up right now, he could be a major star in a few years.
Plus our bullpen has been almost uniformly great. Hembree has been our weakest link probably and he has a league average ERA. Looking at the stats we have a Top 5/6 bullpen already.
I think a Machado rental is probably what I would give up Devers for if anything.
Plus our bullpen has been almost uniformly great. Hembree has been our weakest link probably and he has a league average ERA. Looking at the stats we have a Top 5/6 bullpen already.
I think a Machado rental is probably what I would give up Devers for if anything.
My issue with the Padres is that them playing better than expected is meaningless when nobody on the team has solidified themselves as being a contributor to a competitive Padres team. Hosmer and Myers are actually the least problematic issues for them in my estimation. They at least produce at the major league level.
The Padres are also going to have to deal with the fact they already can't protect all of their prospects from the Rule 5 draft as it is.
Maybe I'm being pessimistic but I don't like how much we're banking on Tatis being a superstar because that isn't very likely.
The Padres are also going to have to deal with the fact they already can't protect all of their prospects from the Rule 5 draft as it is.
Maybe I'm being pessimistic but I don't like how much we're banking on Tatis being a superstar because that isn't very likely.
Myers making $22.5m per from 2020-2022 is really problematic seeing as he's likely a 2 win/yr above replacement player if healthy, 3 at best. The Padres will be lucky to get 6 wins out of him at $10m per. This club can't afford that and compete. Least problematic? C'mon now.
I probably rate Myers higher than you do, I imagine. I think he's a productive player when healthy and is likely to be even more productive with more good players around him. Moving Myers would require them to eat salary too, and I don't think we're in the phase where we should be paying a ton of money to players who aren't actually on the team.
I mean, he put up 3.5 bWAR only 2 years ago and he's 27 now. That's not lightning the world on fire, no, but it's not killing the team, either. He's paid way too much for what he puts out, but at the same time I think a player like him can be a valuable part of a winning club in the future.
Just when I thought we were friends </3.
We'll always have Florida...
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