She has lied about literally nothing. Put up some evidence or shut up.
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Chloe Dykstra Posts About Domestic/Sexual Abuse at the hands of Chris Hardwick
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Ah, so now we get to the part where you find an angle to make it all about her and her faults. No amount of evidence is enough for you. If they had a 4K video of Hardwick raping her while she cries, you'd probably just say "it looks consensual to me"
Your posts are disgusting and you deserve a ban. Willfully dismissing corroboration of blacklisting and also victim blaming after a specific account of being verbally, emotionally and sexually abused. FOH with "she's no angel".
This is why people don't say anything.
Back to gaming with you
Edit: Oh, showing your ass got you banned. Good riddance, I hope it's permanent.
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Level achieved.
Not to muddy up things, but my girlfriend's friend used to work with Hardwick (I think as a PA or some assistant level) around the time this relationship ended. She sent her a text asking what the deal was and all her friend could say was "I signed an NDA."
Now all that can be hearsay from her and I'm just some schlub on the interwebs that you can choose to believe or not but don't overlook the fact that people like Hardwick have the power to clamp down on things with stuff like NDAs when it comes to people that worked under him. It's what allowed Weinstein to thrive for so long as a predator.
I get the point you are trying to make but I hope you aren't trying to say that an affair isn't bad. I have personally witnessed both a friend and a family member get messed up emotionally big time after their partners cheated on them. The family member even went down a bad path with drugs afterwards.
I put cheating on someone up there with most forms of mental relationship related abuse.
Did I say that?
I feel you are still missing the point, as with the other person had also done, repeatedly.
If you don't understand this, then we don't need to keep discussing it.
The fact Hardwick was shitting where he ate (dating a subordinate at work) says a lot. That's just basic Ethics 101.
One of my best friend's old bosses committed suicide after his girlfriend of 4 years cheated. There's all kind of emotional abuse, it's not good to discount any of them. So I agree, cheating can definitely be a form of abuse.
I was thinking the same thing (re: the wall of text). It's like he pasted a word doc into the text field and hit the arrow. What the hell would that have looked like on a phone? Who does that? Would've been as bad as scrolling through a EULA.
I'm amazed the dude didn't send a certified letter.
Hardwick reportedly started dating her while he was dating someone else. Also, she does talk about him getting phone numbers of other actresses behind her back while she had to stay locked up on hotel rooms while he attended SDCC. I find the focus on "the cheating" tacky here. She "cheated" when their relationship was going south. Anyone that has lived enough to have gone through some break ups will tell you that situations like that happen, regardless which side of the equation you are. And like Squarehard said, putting emotional and sexual abuse in the same level of cheating in a case like this is... just flat out wrong. She told him. They broke up. Sort of. Then they truly broke up, like you know, it happens in other relationships. Most of us have been there, and yes, it sucks, but that's not the same as emotional and sexual abuse, regardless of your anedoctal evidence, equating both as the same thing is wrong.
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Yup. Cheating as a result of being trapped in an emotionally, verbally and sexually abusive relationship is not the same thing as cheating because you felt like it or had the power to do so. Equating the two in this context is to miss the fucking point entirely.
remember when this guy was having a meltdown on reddit because of the season 6 finale controversy
Yep, thanks for summing it up my ramblings, that's basically what I was trying to say, haha.
Something always rubbed me the wrong way about Chris Hardwick.
Sickening reading through this thread and seeing the disgusting victim blaming posts and double standard when it comes to taking people at their word and what some choose to conveniently latch onto.
A lot more unsavory elements on ERA than I thought judging from the crap I've seen in some threads over the past week or so.
Sickening reading through this thread and seeing the disgusting victim blaming posts and double standard when it comes to taking people at their word and what some choose to conveniently latch onto.
A lot more unsavory elements on ERA than I thought judging from the crap I've seen in some threads over the past week or so.
Well he got thrown out of his main jobs. Consequences are hitting him hard already.
It's possible he sent her the text from his PC through email. Each carrier has their own sms email address that starts with your 10-digit cell number. All you need to know is their number and which carrier they're on. I've done it to my brother with long copy/paste things to annoy him.
http://tips.slaw.ca/2011/technology/send-a-text-message-to-a-mobile-phone-via-email/
Did you just find out about this and not read the thread in which you posted?
He got thrown out of his AMC show, NBC show, and hosting comic con, as far as I know. Maybe more stuff as well.
Nah, I'm gonna quote myself:
The texts disprove nothing and are highly selective to get an emotional response out of people by trying to shift the narrative away from his abuse and blacklisting to her cheating.
User Banned (2 Weeks): Downplaying sexual assault allegations.
It's a shame that no such thing as due process exists anymore.
So true. Chris is rotting away in prison without so much as a trial.
Yeah, because rotting in jail is the only form of punishment.
This kind of antagonism seems to be what Chloe was trying to avoid. She even asked people not to go after folks at nerdist etc. I'd definitely encourage people to speak up but I'd honor her wishes when it comes to finger pointing at people that know Hardwick personally.
The court of public opinion has its own due process, like the people who have come out and verified her allegations.
This is excessive and honestly you don't need to post every tweet from someone with a strong opinion re: Hardwick.
If you're invested enough to come in here with your due process bologna then you can read the thread and find the information yourself.
He was being incredibly shitty, ignoring people supporting her side of the story while trying to turn the narrative against her after Hardwick's flimsy response and "reasonable" wall of a text message trying to turn attention from the real issues into her cheating. Nothing anyone pointed out seemed to give him anything to mull over but he kept spouting shit about waiting for evidence while defending Hardwick.
Chris' wife just went to the mat for Chris. All but says Chloe's a lying psycho.
https://people.com/tv/lydia-hearst-supports-husband-chris-hardwick/
Then she started liking a series of questionable tweets, including ones that outright call Chloe a "jealous ex". She's ride or die, but uhhh, still kinda sketchy and judging from her timeline, I'm fairly certain she was a #BelieveWomen type before all of this.
This person seems like an obnoxious tool.
https://people.com/tv/lydia-hearst-supports-husband-chris-hardwick/
Then she started liking a series of questionable tweets, including ones that outright call Chloe a "jealous ex". She's ride or die, but uhhh, still kinda sketchy and judging from her timeline, I'm fairly certain she was a #BelieveWomen type before all of this.
This person seems like an obnoxious tool.
You see fam, in normal circumstances, I'd agree that this is excessive and unnecessarily antagonistic. But I'm seeing a movement from Hardwick's camp (his wife Lydia, his mother in law Patricia, Wheaton's wife and well, Hardwick himself with his TMZ nonsense) that it's actively trying to picture Chloe like this:
There's an actual campaign from Hardwick's camp painting Chloe as a psycho. I see this woman's attempt to call out people that know Hardwick to denounce him sort of like a direct response to that. Everything is context, imho. At first, I empathized with Wil Wheaton's tweet about how he needed some time to process this. Then I'm seeing what is going on Hardwick's close circle and fuck that. So what I'm saying is that maybe reactions like those are a necessary evil right now.
What do you even mean with "a #BelieveWomen type"?
Why do you continue to link this stuff? Much like the faked book excerpt, this helps no one.
Let's not spend our time deciding who is or isn't against Chris in this until they actually make a statement. Jonah Ray came out about it this morning and clearly feels terrible about the whole thing. It's not our place to guess who's going to turn heel before they actually do.
We also don't need constant refreshers on what random people from Twitter thing about the situation.
I imagine the idea is that Lydia was willing to talk the talk about believing women in cases like these before, but now that the main in question is close to her she's turning around and trying to paint her as the antagonist.
We also don't need constant refreshers on what random people from Twitter thing about the situation.
I imagine the idea is that Lydia was willing to talk the talk about believing women in cases like these before, but now that the main in question is close to her she's turning around and trying to paint her as the antagonist.
By #BelieveWomen type, I mean someone who has no problem denouncing all other #MeToo abusers and shitting on guys who would doubt the stories of women. I don't mean that disparagingly btw. I just think that it's interesting how quickly she turned into a flaming hypocrite.
Also, had no idea about a Wheaton's wife or this idea of a growing counterattack. Figured Chris was done already, but ya, I guess it will get uglier. Those tweets do make more sense in the context of an ongoing battle.
I agree, but them not jumping to his defense immediately, or now even days later, is stating quite a lot.
But I'm not judging Wheaton or anyone. What I'm saying is that while Wheaton stays quiet, his wife is siding with Lydia on endorsing stuff like the TMZ "leak". I see people urging others to call out him and others that are staying quiet as a necessary evil, but not something I'd do.
Yeah I get that, but what I mean is, empathy. Am I happy that Lydia is trying to paint Chloe as an "evil crazy ex-gf"? No. I feel bad for her almost as much as I feel for Chloe. I still think she genuinely believes #MeToo like any person should, but she's obviously having trouble to separate herself from that:
Here's the thing: Hardwick can be a good man to her and an abuser on previous relationships. Hell, he can at same time be a "good man" and do despicable things. Things aren't black and white, and giving some distance, I bet Lydia out of all people might be able to realize that. I don't think undervalueing "#BelieveWomen types" is the right takeaway here.
Yeah sorry for asking to clarify, but shit got really bad on the thread on the last pages and I thought it was good that we make that clear. While we agree, there are always those out there that are against the #MeToo movement.
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I don't agree.
I believe Chloe is likely telling the truth. But these topics are incredibly sensitive these days -- rightfully so -- and if you come out in support of someone being accused of such a thing, you will instantly be on the hot seat.
If Wheaton said, "I support my friend. I've seen enough of their relationship to know this is not true," he would be dragged through social media. It's not like he can show proof of anything.
I like how quick some people are to believe his narrative over hers. No wonder so few women are prepared to share their stories of these types of awful experiences.