Sarah Sanders and Family Reportedly Denied Service at Virginia Restaurant

Autodidact · Jun 23, 2018

Grimminski said:
So a bunch of bitch ass coward right wingers came in here and played the victim?

I, for one, am shocked they would do such a thing.

To be fair, their friends and relatives probably let them get away with the "both sides" shit and holding bigoted views either because (1) they only hang around people like them because hate and ignorance tend to cluster or (2) "it's just politics I don't want to lose a friend." You can actually see a bit of the latter on this forum, with well-meaning liberal people being unwilling to condemn or challenge the hateful people in their lives.

Shoeless · Jun 23, 2018

Zefah said:
BOTH SIDES.

Seriously, though. What exactly are the "dems" doing to ruin people's lives in very real ways? Don't both sides this shit when one party is actively trying to dismantle people's livelihoods and the other is mostly fighting to prevent that from happening.

In a weird sort of way, a lot of this is starting to remind me of how shocked a bully can be, when the kid in glasses they've been terrorizing actually punches back, instead of just crying, and they're genuinely horrified and say stuff like, "But... you're not supposed to DO that! I'm supposed to be tough, and you're supposed to be weak, that's the way it works! WHYYYY?!?"

Akira86 · Jun 23, 2018

SK4TE said:
Twitter is so confusing, like I like what happened so should I like it? Or would that just look like I supported her? Twitter needs more reaction buttons.

just reply with a general, self-serve "fuck You"

saenima · Jun 23, 2018

Alexandros said:
So let's see if we (me and the people who quoted me) can come to some sort of a consensus here. In principle, discrimination for any reason is wrong. In reality, because of the current political situation in the US and the actions of Trump's government, fighting against that government, racism and the alt-right and preserving the normal way of life means that certain principles have to be temporarily suspended so that more important values can be protected. Yes? No?

She's not being discriminated against. She's being denied dervice because she's a lying bigot who kidnaps children.

foggy · Jun 23, 2018

Corrik said:
I think the responses in this thread itself should show you that both parties are polarized. I have been dogpiled just because I said I am Republican and because I think the country is too polarized.

I have been equated to a racist, told my thoughts are fucking gross, told to go cry more and so on.

The responses are so great and in such numbers I cannot possibly even respond to them all.

But, my point is that I think both sides are polarized, and I cannot remember a time it has been more polarized. I wish it would be less so. There is no longer discussion on anything anymore, I feel.

Just my thoughts though on it.

LMAO of all the FUCKED up things going on you gonna lament this shit?

Take a wild guess why you're being met with disdain

NoRéN · Jun 23, 2018

Grimminski said:
So a bunch of bitch ass coward right wingers came in here and played the victim?

I, for one, am shocked they would do such a thing.

"Why won't you let us oppress you!"

GrapeApes · Jun 23, 2018

"Whatever happens, we will soldier on," Wilkinson said. "Absolutely, yes, I would have done the same thing again.

"We just felt there are moments in time when people need to live their convictions. This appeared to be one."

NinjaScooter · Jun 23, 2018

Shoeless said:
In a weird sort of way, a lot of this is starting to remind me of how shocked a bully can be, when the kid in glasses they've been terrorizing actually punches back, instead of just crying, and they're genuinely horrified and say stuff like, "But... you're not supposed to DO that! I'm supposed to be tough, and you're supposed to be weak, that's the way it works! WHYYYY?!?"

And of course you are going to have people that spin a person standing up to a bully as being "immoral" and "despicable", because, you know, they're just asking questions, or listening to Ghandi.

legacyzero · Jun 23, 2018

Alexandros said:
So let's see if we (me and the people who quoted me) can come to some sort of a consensus here. In principle, discrimination for any reason is wrong. In reality, because of the current political situation in the US and the actions of Trump's government, fighting against that government, racism and the alt-right and preserving the normal way of life means that certain principles have to be temporarily suspended so that more important values can be protected. Yes? No?

What you're forgetting in your little experiment here is the control. What exactly is being discriminated against? If your answer is "Conservative!" That's disingenuous as hell. If you're gonna insist in showing your Conservative underpants here, at least bring more than false equivalence to the table. You might be taken a little more serious

onadesertedisland · Jun 23, 2018

Phire Phox said:

So much for the tolerant left... Fuck you Tammy, I'd throw your ass out too.

Deleted member 1635 · Jun 23, 2018

Alexandros said:
In principle, discrimination for any reason is wrong.

This isn't discrimination unless you are simply using that word to mean "treat individuals in a specific way as a result of their words and actions." If that's the case, as it seems to be, then your sentiment is wrong.

Chekhonte · Jun 23, 2018

Right, this is just about some quibbling disagreement. The restaurant owners behavior was untoward and ungentlemanly. I guess she'll just have to go back and eat some separated immigrant babies feet first head raised with the knowledge that she's the better man.

Alexandros · Jun 23, 2018

legacyzero said:
What you're forgetting in your little experiment here is the control. What exactly is being discriminated against? If your answer is "Conservative!" That's disingenuous as hell. If you're gonna insist in showing your Conservative underpants here, at least bring more than false equivalence to the table. You might be taken a little more serious

Guys please read the rest of my posts before replying to my earlier ones.

Sagadego17 · Jun 23, 2018

CenturionNami said:
Not a fan of Sarah at all (I miss Spicer lol), disgusting like the rest of Trump cronies.

I feel bad for her kids though. Imagine what they would be thinking if their mom was denied entry into a restaurant. Not good for her psyche at all.

was spicer any better or worse?

perfectchaos007 · Jun 23, 2018

Restaurants and businesses can deny service for any reason so....
like others have said, your job is not a protected class so they aren't denying because of race/gender/orientation therefor they have the right to kick her out

rjinaz · Jun 23, 2018

GrapeApes said:

We need more heroes like this in the Trump age. A simple thing, but, some personal risk, and it makes a big statement.

McMahon · Jun 23, 2018

foggy said:
LMAO of all the FUCKED up things going on you gonna lament this shit?

Take a wild guess why you're being met with disdain

You expect self-reflection from someone so morally corrupt and out of touch? Never!

Coward's already slinked off to some other corner of the forum. Waiting to pop pop in another thread and spew bile again sometime in the future.

Ogami Itto · Jun 23, 2018

Some people here need to listen the crying immigrant children audio nonstop for a whole day, and then tell me how you feel about the piece of shit defending it on tv. She should be starved to death.

onadesertedisland · Jun 23, 2018

I can't stand to be near people that advocate for children to be kidnapped from their parents and then locked in cages inside concentration camps. Sorry not sorry. There is no both sides. This is not a political debate, it's a stand against fascism. If you want service, be a decent human being. You don't get to claim that other humans are vermin and dog whistle white supremacy and then get butthurt when people recognize you are a shitheel garbage person.

Orayn · Jun 23, 2018

I'm going to break with the crowd and say that discriminating against fascists should be legal, encouraged, and universally practiced. No wishy washy lib equivocation, just let bad people know they aren't welcome anywhere.

legacyzero · Jun 23, 2018

Alexandros said:
Guys please read the rest of my posts before replying to my earlier ones.

No no. Respond with my post. It's not hard.

Volimar · Jun 23, 2018

Alexandros said:
Guys please read the rest of my posts before replying to my earlier ones.

Maybe edit your first few posts to demonstrate your current view.

Alexandros · Jun 23, 2018

rjinaz said:
I just want to say kudos for sticking around and at least trying to understand where everybody was coming from despite the many, many replies. Most people cry victim and then evacuate. It really seems like you're being genuine.

Thank you. I know that these discussions get pretty heated so I make an effort to respond in a calm manner. I understand that some people are posting in bad faith but I like to think I'm not one of them.

Deleted member 1635 · Jun 23, 2018

Sagadego17 said:
was spicer any better or worse?

No, he was just as loathsome of a shitheel. You have to be to work for Trump. He just didn't get a chance to preside over the kidnapping and imprisoning of children and babies.

GaimeGuy · Jun 23, 2018

Alexandros, I know you're being flooded with posts, but it is not wrong to treat someone differently because of the cruel way that they have acted towards others. That's not discrimination based on someone's nature, that's treating people fairly according to their deeds and character towards others.

Kirblar · Jun 23, 2018

Megawarrior said:
I still wont step one foot into virginia but it's nice to see this.

Virginia is nice! We're not West Virginia.

And double standards, of course:

Rackham · Jun 23, 2018

Alexandros said:
Guys please read the rest of my posts before replying to my earlier ones.

Don't die on this dumb hill. It's so god damn disingenuous. "Be the better person to people who hate you and serve them food"
I bet you're a boogie lover

Alucrid · Jun 23, 2018

GrapeApes said:

didn't say shit in person

Sanders's response was immediate, Wilkinson said: " ' That's fine. I'll go.' "

was comped what they had eaten

"They offered to pay," Wilkinson said. "I said, 'No. It's on the house.' "

and she still went and blew up the place on twitter.

Username1198 · Jun 23, 2018

Maddness said:

11/10

Era platinum for you.

foggy · Jun 23, 2018

Front-facing spokesperson for fascist propaganda is just a person with different beliefs trying to feed their family in peace.

The absolute poverty of a centrist position.

NoRéN · Jun 23, 2018

Some of these trump fans I swear.

* as they usher Jews into the incinerator*
"Guys, I'm being perfectly pleasant to you and polite. Please treat me with respect. Let's all behave, ok."

legacyzero · Jun 23, 2018

Megawarrior said:
I still wont step one foot into virginia but it's nice to see this.

Virginia is for lovers. Lovers that just elected a Transgender woman to local government, and ever once in a while, produces things like this.

Also I was born and raised there and I'm clearly biased lol

Link · Jun 23, 2018

Shoeless said:
In a weird sort of way, a lot of this is starting to remind me of how shocked a bully can be, when the kid in glasses they've been terrorizing actually punches back, instead of just crying, and they're genuinely horrified and say stuff like, "But... you're not supposed to DO that! I'm supposed to be tough, and you're supposed to be weak, that's the way it works! WHYYYY?!?"

Reminds me of this:

GrapeApes said:

We need more people this this guy.

Alexandros · Jun 23, 2018

Volimar said:
Maybe edit your first few posts to demonstrate your current view.

No I think it's important for everyone to follow the discussion as is. I want people to know that I am posting in good faith regardless of my opinion on a specific matter.

onadesertedisland · Jun 23, 2018

It should be adamantly illegal for public servants to use social media to attack private businesses or individuals. The responsibility that they have with such a pulpit should make it that doing such a thing is a felony. Using that standing to attack individuals is essentially the government attacking them. I think she should be charged with something. We can't have our leaders and their assistants using official communication channels in this manner.

BDS · Jun 23, 2018

If I lived near Lexington I'd gladly go eat at this place. Make fascists scared and embarrassed to be in public.

Karateka · Jun 23, 2018

Ehhh do not really agree with this.
I don't see why any restaurant or business should have the right to remove any customer who has not done something unsavoury within that business.
We should not get to the point when restaurants pick and choose who can eat there

McMahon · Jun 23, 2018

Karateka said:
Ehhh do not really agree with this.
I don't see why any restaurant or business should have the right to remove any customer who has not done something unsavoury within that business.
We should not get to the point when restaurants pick and choose who can eat there

lol

Van Bur3n · Jun 23, 2018

Beartruck said:

I always liked this one. Because it is ultimately true.

Orayn · Jun 23, 2018

Karateka said:
Ehhh do not really agree with this.
I don't see why any restaurant or business should have the right to remove any customer who has not done something unsavoury within that business.
We should not get to the point when restaurants pick and choose who can eat there

I'm the guy posting a thought experiment about the moral complexities of Hitler walking into a fast food joint.

Alexandros · Jun 23, 2018

Rackham said:
Don't die on this dumb hill. It's so god damn disingenuous. "Be the better person to people who hate you and serve them food"
I bet you're a boogie lover

The only thing I can tell you is that I try to be the better person in my real life and sometimes it's really fucking hard. I've talked with a few other posters and I feel like I have a better understanding of the whole situation, at least enough to understand some important nuances.

NinjaScooter · Jun 23, 2018

Karateka said:
Ehhh do not really agree with this.
I don't see why any restaurant or business should have the right to remove any customer who has not done something unsavoury within that business.
We should not get to the point when restaurants pick and choose who can eat there

Are they creating you guys in a factory?

SupremeWu · Jun 23, 2018

Megawarrior said:
I still wont step one foot into virginia but it's nice to see this.

You won't be missed. We have more than enough people coming in from across the country for jobs.

onadesertedisland · Jun 23, 2018

Karateka said:
Ehhh do not really agree with this.
I don't see why any restaurant or business should have the right to remove any customer who has not done something unsavoury within that business.
We should not get to the point when restaurants pick and choose who can eat there

As long as the reason is not race, sexuality, gender, religion, physical ability, or other protected class, any private business should absolutely have the right to refuse service. What if having this lying sack of shit eating there made the employees feel uncomfortable? What if someone's relative was put in a cage by her boss's actions? What if the other patrons were chased off by her presence? Sarah Sanders is not a protected class, she's a lying asshole and lying assholes should be discriminated against.

rjinaz · Jun 23, 2018

Karateka said:
Ehhh do not really agree with this.
I don't see why any restaurant or business should have the right to remove any customer who has not done something unsavoury within that business.
We should not get to the point when restaurants pick and choose who can eat there

Free country. At least that's what I'm told. If a person is your worst enemy I see no reason you are legally required to serve them unless it's based on a protected class. Why would you want that to be the case?

Alucrid · Jun 23, 2018

Karateka said:
Ehhh do not really agree with this.
I don't see why any restaurant or business should have the right to remove any customer who has not done something unsavoury within that business.
We should not get to the point when restaurants pick and choose who can eat there

if i ever open up a restaurant this person is the going to be the first to be banned

Karateka · Jun 23, 2018

onadesertedisland said:
As long as the reason is not race, sexuality, gender, religion, physical ability, or other protected class, any private business should absolutely have the right to refuse service. What if having this lying sack of shit eating there made the employees feel uncomfortable? What if someone's relative was put in a cage by her boss's actions? What if the other patrons were chased off by her presence? Sarah Sanders is not a protected class, she's a lying asshole and lying assholes should be discriminated against.

That is doing something unsavoury in that business.
If she went in and was being racist in there, sure kick her out.
If she went in to buy some food and was doing nothing wrong, I don't really understand.

As for "what if someones relative was put in a cage by her bosses actions" I can't think of any other time when that would be relevant?
So many people are lying assholes but most people don't know about it, not sure how we can decide whether or not someone is a lying asshole at the door.

Upright House of Gourds · Jun 23, 2018

She wasn't kicked out for her political beliefs.

She was kicked out for being an active collaborator in human rights violations among all of the other hundred things Trump has done.

Big difference.

NinjaScooter · Jun 23, 2018

Karateka said:
That is doing something unsavoury in that business.
If she went in and was being racist in there, sure kick her out.
If she went in to buy some food and was doing nothing wrong, I don't really understand.

As for "what if someones relative was put in a cage by her bosses actions" I can't think of any other time when that would be relevant?
So many people are lying assholes but most people don't know about it, not sure how we can decide whether or not someone is a lying asshole at the door.

The business did not want to be associated with someone who is a very public and vocal liar and bigot. Why should they not have that right? Why are we having this same dumb argument thrown out for like the 6th time in this single thread. Did some of you skip 7th grade civics class?

Volimar · Jun 23, 2018

Volimar said:

I'll bump this a single time. If you want to support the restaurant but don't live in the area, please consider this.

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