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chrominance

Sky Van Gogh
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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm honestly surprised that people really think there's a significant chance of Let's Go eclipsing or replacing the mainline series. If anything, Game Freak have been doing damage control with so many of their statements, reassuring people that the mainline series will still be here and that Let's Go isn't abandoning what they feel are the fundamentals of the franchise.

As someone who now plays a ton of Go and hasn't yet been able to get into the main series so much, I really think of Go and the mainline games as two very different things. Go doesn't in any way offer the traditional JRPG-esque experience you'd expect from Pokemon games, and a big part of Go's appeal is the social aspect of raiding and gym battles that you don't get in the same way from the handheld games. Go is very much a game in the world; Pokemon is much more self-contained. There's obviously lots of room for crossover, but you'll always have a distinct audience for each that I don't think will cannibalize each other too much.

I find this hard to believe. I work in an area with a large amount of foot traffic and I don't have people coming into my business asking if it's okay to catch a rare and I don't see people bumping into each other on the street because they were staring at their cellphones or congregating on random street corners.

The game must work much differently now

It does, for the most part. The original game was so much more limited in scope that the main activity was really just trying to find specific pokemon in the wild. But because of how utterly random that process is unless you're using a tracker map (which have all been down for months now), it's really easy to burn out on trying to complete your dex that way.

The introduction of raids last summer gave people an incentive to actually talk to each other and organize, something they rarely had any reason to do at launch. It also provided a steady stream of desirable pokemon that were not only dex-fillers but useful in other raids and for gym battles to varying degrees.

More recently, weather, quests and trading have all introduced new ways to get pokemon you don't get to see very often, and on top of that Niantic has scheduled events so consistently that for months we haven't gone more than a week without a new event that changes what spawns in the wild, appears in quests and raids, or hatches in eggs.

The way you spot people playing Pokemon Go nowadays is to look for giant groups of people all tapping intently on their phones. They're not really running around chasing rare pokemon in the same way anymore.
 

Skittzo

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Oct 25, 2017
41,037

They've updated it massively.

Summer is the peak time for this game in general due to its nature of course, and last summer the game wasn't really in great shape. As of now though they've updated it with a whole host of new things like daily field research, mythical quests, legendaries, all sorts of weekly/monthly events, raids, ex-raids, etc.

It's a lot of fun now.
 

Deleted member 35598

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Dec 7, 2017
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Eevee and Pikachu, in-game improvements, summertime.

They've updated it massively.

Summer is the peak time for this game in general due to its nature of course, and last summer the game wasn't really in great shape. As of now though they've updated it with a whole host of new things like daily field research, mythical quests, legendaries, all sorts of weekly/monthly events, raids, ex-raids, etc.

It's a lot of fun now.

Ok thanks guys.
 

ghostcrew

The Shrouded Ghost
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Oct 27, 2017
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Last year MAU were around 60m, so since this is higher than summer 2 years ago, its definitely above 60m, and according to this tweet its at 145m MAU, with would be more montjly active users than Fortnite has total players.
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Great, good info! Thanks!
 

panama chief

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Oct 27, 2017
4,056
I'm playing. All my boys are back on too and friends just opened up my FB friends to the fact that I play which let me know a few of them play too. Gifting feels great.
 

Sterok

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,084
You telling me that adding Pichu and Blaziken didn't kill off the game because they weren't in the original games? I'm shocked. Now we just need Gamefreak to remember this for a long time.
 

Deleted member 8674

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I still believe Go popularity is because it's social, go out and catch Pokémon with friends. Grap your mobile and open the game to check anytime.

Not a 60$ console game

Go is popular despite Niantic awful game design not because of it.
 

NameUser

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,035
Good for them. It's still crazy how much people were playing it two years ago. I kinda miss that, seeing tons of people in the park, glued to their phones lol
 

KillstealWolf

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 27, 2017
16,099
I still believe Go popularity is because it's social, go out and catch Pokémon with friends. Grap your mobile and open the game to check anytime.

Not a 60$ console game

Go is popular despite Niantic awful game design not because of it.

Also it's coming out in November.

You know, that time of the year that it isn't super sunny for the majority of countries in the world? You won't be going out and socializing with others playing Let's Go in November.
 

Mr_F_Snowman

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Oct 27, 2017
3,883
Some random Chinese kart racer being so high up bodes well for Mario Kart Tour. Could be Nintendos first mega mobile hit
 

iFirez

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,585
England
I'm just going to transfer all the pokemon I want from Go to Let's Go later this year. The game doesn't work at all where I live, it's a 30 minute drive to the nearest city and my village (while it has fibre internet) doesn't have any pokestops. I used to live in Birmingham City Centre so caught myself a good load of 'mons while walking to/from work and on weekends with the dog so I have a good collection to transfer over.
 

drog

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Nov 6, 2017
545
Yea I just recently started playing again, they've added a lot since I last played back in 2016. The Let's Go announcement got me interested in playing again and I'm glad I did, it's such a perfect game for the Summer time.
 

Andri

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Mar 20, 2018
6,017
Switzerland
Eevee and Pikachu, in-game improvements, summertime.

But none of these things happened at the time the numbers in OP happened(which was may).

Lets go happened on the very last day of may, trading and friends happened this month, and summer just started this month too.

If anything, right now it should be much bigger, since all these things with positive effect on Go happened after May, or so late in may that their effect happened in June.
 

Skittzo

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Oct 25, 2017
41,037
I still believe Go popularity is because it's social, go out and catch Pokémon with friends. Grap your mobile and open the game to check anytime.

Not a 60$ console game

Go is popular despite Niantic awful game design not because of it.

Nah, it's popular because the characters are very popular and the collection aspect is incredibly compelling. People don't care how you go about collecting/capturing Pokemon, they just have a desire to catch them all and round out their collection.

The majority of people I know who play it mostly play alone, outside of raid groups.
 

AzureFlame

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Oct 30, 2017
4,254
Kuwait
Nah, it's popular because the characters are very popular and the collection aspect is incredibly compelling. People don't care how you go about collecting/capturing Pokemon, they just have a desire to catch them all and round out their collection.

The majority of people I know who play it mostly play alone, outside of raid groups.

it's popular because

it's pokemon, even many none gamers know it to this day, but that wasn't enough, they needed a cool idea to grab the casual and that was going out and catching pokemons on a mobile phone
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it's free.


that's why it has like 700 million downloads.
 

Andri

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Mar 20, 2018
6,017
Switzerland
Australia is sunny in November. To name one example.

To be fair, something like 70-80% of the people with Smartphones live in the Northern Hemisphere.

I agree that there are many more people in the southern hemispehere, but the money is and will be in the north for the forseeable future.

Just between europe and east asia you have half the worlds gdp and almost 3 billion people in the norther hemispehere.
 

Lylo

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Oct 25, 2017
3,174
Well, my wife still plays it all the time, so it never went away in my case. I personally can't stand it, but she has a lot fun so i can't hate it. Thank God she doesn't expend money on it, only her valuable time in raids...hehe
 

Skittzo

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Oct 25, 2017
41,037
it's popular because

it's pokemon, even many none gamers know it to this day.
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the idea, going out and catching.
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it's on mobile and it's free


that's why it has like 700 million downloads.

I think it's well over 800 by now but yes, basically. I don't think the social aspect has much to do with it at all to be honest.

It's Pokemon, you can catch/collect them all, and it's free. That's really all the ingredients you need for massive success.
 

KillstealWolf

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 27, 2017
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the whole southern hemisphere is since it's spring around here.

In company terms though, there's the Rich North/Poor South thing the whole world has.

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If you want to make money, your going to focus your products more for the rich north than the poor south. And for something that wants you to go outside (like Go) Summer will be the time people will do that.

So Let's Go coming out in November isn't going to have that going outside social aspect Go has.
 

Andri

Member
Mar 20, 2018
6,017
Switzerland
it's popular because

it's pokemon, even many none gamers know it to this day.
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the idea, going out and catching.
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it's on mobile and it's free


that's why it has like 700 million downloads.

Neither you nor the person you are replying to have any definite proof that your theory or theirs is the "right" one.

Its most likely a mix of these two, but the only people who know for sure are the people making the game, since they have access to all the data (such as how many people only play alone, how many people only play with friends, and how much people spend on it).

If the people with access to that data(especially the cosumer behavior data) think that they can successfully sell a 60$ game based on Go, they probably have some data that suggests they can do that.

Unless you think that they just have no idea why people play their game, in which case nothing can convince you otherwise, and you would probably also just dismiss it if they then succeed in selling that 60$ game.
 

AzureFlame

Member
Oct 30, 2017
4,254
Kuwait
I think it's well over 800 by now but yes, basically. I don't think the social aspect has much to do with it at all to be honest.

It's Pokemon, you can catch/collect them all, and it's free. That's really all the ingredients you need for massive success.

not really, the social aspect was the thing that grabbed the casuals attention.

of course they'll will still get success without it but it won't be anywhere as big.
 

Andri

Member
Mar 20, 2018
6,017
Switzerland
I do actually. I spend 90% of my time (barring sleeping) outside with people. I've not heard a single person talk about this game in an year. Last time was probably when an event for this game was taking place.

It has 145 million Monthly active users.

That means there is a literally 1/50 chance that someone you meet is actively playing the game.
Its of course vastly dependant on where you live, with people in rural regions being much more unlikely to meet other Go players.
 

Lucifonz

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,133
United Kingdom
My other half and I have just got back into it, and have bumped into a ton of people also playing in the wild. It's weird, it seems like a bunch of folks have really recently returned to the game.
 

Rogue Blue

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
2,280
My entire home town is still crazy over this game.

A few times we drove through downtown, and whenever the raids and special events were going on, there would be TONS of people out on their phones, walking together looking more fixated on them than usual.

I would've chalked it up as typical phone usage, but then I realized that a lot of these people were wearing Pokémon gear/Ash Ketchum hats.

The thirst is real people.
 

Phellps

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Oct 25, 2017
10,812
The game has a lot going on right now, much has changed since it launched two years ago, and there's a lot to come as well. It's a great time to go back to it.
 

Skittzo

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Oct 25, 2017
41,037
not really, the social aspect was the thing that grabbed the casuals attention.

of course they'll will still get success without it but it won't be anywhere as big.

I really don't see that at all. The game was- up until now anyway- not at all a social experience. There were no friends lists until this past week. The game was all about filling out your Pokedex, gathering enough candies for evolutions, keeping control of gyms, all of that. All of that, barring the gym battles, was a single player experience. Even the gym battles were more often than not an independent/isolated experience, since it's unlikely the other trainers were still at the gym when you were battling their Pokemon. There really wasn't any sort of active cooperation/competition with others until raids came around.

There were "Pokewalk" social events, sure, but I really doubt the majority of the time people were playing they were doing so for the social aspect of it. Pokewalks were likely a fun little weekend excursion, then during the week people would go back to their normal work/school routines which involved catching a few Pokemon or Pokestops on the way to work/school or during their lunch break.
 

AzureFlame

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Oct 30, 2017
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Kuwait
I really don't see that at all. The game was- up until now anyway- not at all a social experience. There were no friends lists until this past week. The game was all about filling out your Pokedex, gathering enough candies for evolutions, keeping control of gyms, all of that. All of that, barring the gym battles, was a single player experience. Even the gym battles were more often than not an independent/isolated experience, since it's unlikely the other trainers were still at the gym when you were battling their Pokemon. There really wasn't any sort of active cooperation/competition with others until raids came around.

There were "Pokewalk" social events, sure, but I really doubt the majority of the time people were playing they were doing so for the social aspect of it. Pokewalks were likely a fun little weekend excursion, then during the week people would go back to their normal work/school routines which involved catching a few Pokemon or Pokestops on the way to work/school or during their lunch break.

i meant by social the "going out" part.
 

Serebii

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Oct 24, 2017
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The game has a lot going on right now, much has changed since it launched two years ago, and there's a lot to come as well. It's a great time to go back to it.
Yeah, they've been going hard on the events of late, giving far more changes and things to do. Just compare the Water Festivals and Adventure Weeks from 2017 to 2018
 

jackal27

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Oct 25, 2017
940
Joplin, MO
The question, from my perspective, is can Nintendo convince Go players to buy a Switch, a copy of the game, and the Pokeball controller. We're talking converting free to play players into consumers who drop around $400 upfront.
I would have said no until Pokemon and 3DS sales absolutely skyrocketed with the popularity of Go. I know that's a smaller investment, but my guess is that many of those people already want a Switch and just need that extra push to pick one up. That's purely based on the folks I personally know though.
 

Knight613

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Oct 25, 2017
20,803
San Francisco
Most Go players that I've encountered actually do plan on picking up a Switch if they don't have one already for Let's Go. At the very least they want the pokeball controller just to use as a Go+
 

Metallix87

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Nov 1, 2017
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I would have said no until Pokemon and 3DS sales absolutely skyrocketed with the popularity of Go. I know that's a smaller investment, but my guess is that many of those people already want a Switch and just need that extra push to pick one up. That's purely based on the folks I personally know though.
It's definitely possible. We'll know for sure come January.