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New York Primary: Ocasio-Cortez Defeats Incumbent Joe Crowley
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Agreed. What I should have said the function of the agency will always exist but ICE itself hopefully won't survive. There needs to be a total personnel cleaning and new direction for the agency.
Yeah that's not a good look Pelosi. We need less of this shit right here. Almost Trumpian. Might as well stuck parenthesis around "congratulate".
To me it just begs the question why he was never primaried for so long .
Praising the accomplishments of a 14 or so year colleague who will no longer be your colleague is not salt
Complaining about that statement is literally "bitch eating crackers" syndrome
You know how you can identify a person who has never worked with anyone longer than a few months before?
Good. More young blood is needed in Congress. The less old, white men in there will be better for everyone.
That was her statement on the result. Unless I'm missing something. This was her take away from the night. It wasn't just somebody asking her about her friend and colleague.
Pelosi is fucking pathetic.
If she wants to lead the Democratic Party, she should probably listen to the voters yes.
It is literally only one sentence. Like I said above, she could've added more about how she hopes to work with AOC in bringing healthcare to all Americans or something. One sentence tacked onto that statement is a bad look.
I'm not saying she shouldn't praise the guy for his service, but you'd think the winner would be at the forefront of her statement - Crowley will still be around for a few months.
The voters of a single house district in New York?
Yea, this reaction to the primary is going exactly how I thought it would go.
And giving only a single sentence to Ocasio-Cortez is not something to complain about? Like, she's a politician, she should now how the optics of this statement will look like.
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You're right. She needs to be pleasing the Democratic base.
Wrong. This is a bad take. Pelosi gets so much undeserved hate shes done a lot for progressive policy and the Democratic party.
I mean, she's supposed to be one of the best. I think she could have done better if she actually wanted to.
But anyway, I'm more into feeling positive tonight no sense derailing over this anyway.
For the record, I think Pelosi is great. Just not right here.
You'll never win this argument, Nancy is an old lady who is the current image of the Democrats.
Basically, she's Hillary all over gain.
Still not sure what you want her to say to this result? Say Fuck someone she's been in congress with for years?
Sanders didn't even endorse Cortez afaik, but the entire post-2016 left is just a Bernie personality cult amirite
I'm not going to lie, of course I'm elated that perhaps the Democratic party won't just be the party of liberals and moderate republicans anymore. Imagine if actual left-wing politics could be viable in the U.S
Democracy in action. That's awesome. Really gives you hope that corporations haven't completely bought our political system.
I mean she's actually a "far left progressive" I can get behind because by all accounts she actually put in the work on the ground to connect with people and build support for her candidacy, the stuff that far left candidates actually need to do to win. She's demonstrating what works and I hope other people are watching and learning from it
It's called loyalty. She doesn't have to immediately toss him to the curb just because he was defeated, nor to act all chummy with the victor (which I suspect many would just call out as being fake and dishonest) when it's known the party didn't really want to lose Crowley.
There will be plenty of time to sing Ocasio-Cortez's praises when she's seated and serves. She seems like a capable and worthy representative.
I don't think it's all that surprising or suspicious for establishment politicians to rally behind each other. They have rapport that spans decades.
Yea I guess I don't understand why that's a "bad" thing. Plus I'm not interested in arguing with people that don't understand how valuable she's been to the party.
Damn it's almost like left wing liberals are fostered and elected in far left states/areas of the country, and the rest of the nation is populated by rural hell holes full of aging white people!
Also love the bolded hot take
You are reaching because you are excited. There's literally nothing wrong with Pelosi's statement here. Relax.
I'm not seeing what's wrong with that Pelosi statement? I'm glad we are getting some new, young blood, but she is literally just doing a write up of someone she has worked with for 15 years. Can we criticize her for actual fuck shit, like the statement directed at Auntie Maxine?
A great quote from the interview:
She gets it. People are looking for action from Democrats, not just status quo+denunciation of Trump.
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Nah. She's God awful. What "progressive agenda is she pushing for exactly? Certainly not a smaller military budget and the end of the various nations we're still bombing. Certainly not Medicare for all. Certainly certainly not a better distribution of wealth. And lip service to minorities?
BONUS:
We're in the political equivalent of having a sports riot in the winning city
Yes, fuck the woman who delivered an eight-hour speech trying to help you but couldn't broker a deal with a white supremacist Republican Congress not remotely interested in helping Dreamers. That'll show her.
It's something else when you consider, to my knowledge, not a single person has actually expressed disappointment at the result.
The only reason it's bad is because it's a statement from Pelosi. She doesn't pass the all important purity test so it's fuck her and her decades of work for the party.
Anyway I'm done not going to derail the great victory thread with senseless arguements with people who aren't able to be reasoned with because of purity politics.
I mean, I like literally everything she says, I just completely lack the seeming faith she has in the American people to not throw a screaming tantrum and ruin literally everything every 4-8 years
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Weren't they willing to roll on Dreamers for something else? Obviously Trump ditched them. But her and Chuck caught heat for it rightfully. Don't be disingenuous.
A number of leftist candidates before AOC have done a lot towards those ends, but the structural obstacles to overcome are pretty immense; I personally canvassed for two endorsed by DSA in NYC, Brisport and El-Yateem, who lost but nonetheless did very well for candidates with no establishment support. I do understand what you mean, though.
You're fucking clueless.
"Just be grateful" is precisely the kind of oppression people of color face under parts of the Democratic party.
Some people express dissent by criticizing machine politics and the representatives who embody the system while others express their anger through backwards American flag avatars.
Different strokes.