Nothing Pelosi does ever pleases anybody.Celebrating over a decade of public service and saying farewell to a colleague isn't salt.
What is she supposed to say? "Fuck the establishment! We're coming for the rest of you next!"
Nothing Pelosi does ever pleases anybody.Celebrating over a decade of public service and saying farewell to a colleague isn't salt.
What is she supposed to say? "Fuck the establishment! We're coming for the rest of you next!"
There's a lot out ground between those two things...Celebrating over a decade of public service and saying farewell to a colleague isn't salt.
What is she supposed to say? "Fuck the establishment! We're coming for the rest of you next!"
Agreed. What I should have said the function of the agency will always exist but ICE itself hopefully won't survive. There needs to be a total personnel cleaning and new direction for the agency.As a practical matter we need them to exist in some form for general immigration matters. The best that will happen is it gets renamed, reorganized, and staffed differently. But I'll be happy with that tbh.
Just one sentence for her, Pelosi? One?
I want her to go on Desus and Mero IMMEDIATELY
To me it just begs the question why he was never primaried for so long .So I wasn't keeping track of this particular race. Can anyone from New York or someone who is better at politics than me explain to me just how big of a deal this is for the Dems?
Cause 90% of it is praising the guy who lost, and then tacking on, "oh right, and congrats to the winner"
Praising the accomplishments of a 14 or so year colleague who will no longer be your colleague is not salt
That was her statement on the result. Unless I'm missing something. This was her take away from the night. It wasn't just somebody asking her about her friend and colleague.Praising the accomplishments of a 14 or so year colleague who will no longer be your colleague is not salt
Complaining about that statement is literally "bitch eating crackers" syndrome
If she wants to lead the Democratic Party, she should probably listen to the voters yes.What is she supposed to say? "Fuck the establishment! We're coming for the rest of you next!"
It is literally only one sentence. Like I said above, she could've added more about how she hopes to work with AOC in bringing healthcare to all Americans or something. One sentence tacked onto that statement is a bad look.Praising the accomplishments of a 14 or so year colleague who will no longer be your colleague is not salt
Complaining about that statement is literally "bitch eating crackers" syndrome
Doesnt read salty to me. Reads like she's known Crowley for a long time and just doesn't know much about Ocasio-Cortez.
Celebrating over a decade of public service and saying farewell to a colleague isn't salt.
What is she supposed to say? "Fuck the establishment! We're coming for the rest of you next!"
She should try harder tbh
Pelosi is fucking pathetic.
If she wants to lead the Democratic Party, she should probably listen to the voters yes.
Praising the accomplishments of a 14 or so year colleague who will no longer be your colleague is not salt
Complaining about that statement is literally "bitch eating crackers" syndrome
You're right. She needs to be pleasing the Democratic base.
Wrong. This is a bad take. Pelosi gets so much undeserved hate shes done a lot for progressive policy and the Democratic party.
I mean, she's supposed to be one of the best. I think she could have done better if she actually wanted to.And giving only a single sentence to Ocasio-Cortez is not something to complain about? Like, she's a politician, she should now how the optics of this statement will look like.
Wrong. This is a bad take. Pelosi gets so much undeserved hate shes done a lot for progressive policy and the Democratic party.
Pelosi is fucking pathetic.
If she wants to lead the Democratic Party, she should probably listen to the voters yes.
I'm not going to lie, of course I'm elated that perhaps the Democratic party won't just be the party of liberals and moderate republicans anymore. Imagine if actual left-wing politics could be viable in the U.SYea, this reaction to the primary is going exactly how I thought it would go.
I mean she's actually a "far left progressive" I can get behind because by all accounts she actually put in the work on the ground to connect with people and build support for her candidacy, the stuff that far left candidates actually need to do to win. She's demonstrating what works and I hope other people are watching and learning from itSanders didn't even endorse Cortez afaik, but the entire post-2016 left is just a Bernie personality cult amirite
It's called loyalty. She doesn't have to immediately toss him to the curb just because he was defeated, nor to act all chummy with the victor (which I suspect many would just call out as being fake and dishonest) when it's known the party didn't really want to lose Crowley.I'm not saying she shouldn't praise the guy for his service, but you'd think the winner would be at the forefront of her statement - Crowley will still be around for a few months.
Yea I guess I don't understand why that's a "bad" thing. Plus I'm not interested in arguing with people that don't understand how valuable she's been to the party.You'll never win this argument, Nancy is an old lady who is the current image of the Democrats.
Basically, she's Hillary all over gain.
I'm not going to lie, of course I'm elated that perhaps the Democratic party won't just be the party of liberals and moderate republicans anymore. Imagine if actual left-wing politics could be viable in the U.S
Pelosi could've looked at her platform and say that she hopes they can work together on whatever policy.
Really, there should be more than just one sentence congratulating her. I understand the epilogue for Crowley, but one sentence for AOC is not a good look.
CrazyDamn it's almost like left wing liberals are fostered and elected in far left states/areas of the country, and the rest of the nation is populated by rural hell holes full of aging white people!
Donald Trump has made it easy for politicians to be part of the "resistance" without really doing much . . .
One of the biggest dangers of this administration is the erosion of norms, which is pretty typical for authoritarian regimes. This is one of the problems when it comes to immigration. My opponent has literally called ICE "fascist", yet he refuses to take the stance of abolishing it, which, to me, is morally incomprehensible. Words mean something, and the moment you have identified something as fascist, that with it carries a moral responsibility to abolish it. That's what I'm talking about when we say that norms have been eroded: that we literally have elected officials arguing to basically retain fascist agencies. And that's on the left.
Nah. She's God awful. What "progressive agenda is she pushing for exactly? Certainly not a smaller military budget and the end of the various nations we're still bombing. Certainly not Medicare for all. Certainly certainly not a better distribution of wealth. And lip service to minorities?Wrong. This is a bad take. Pelosi gets so much undeserved hate shes done a lot for progressive policy and the Democratic party.
I'm not seeing what's wrong with that Pelosi statement? I'm glad we are getting some new, young blood, but she is literally just doing a write up of someone she has worked with for 15 years. Can we criticize her for actual fuck shit, like the statement directed at Auntie Maxine?
Yes, fuck the woman who delivered an eight-hour speech trying to help you but couldn't broker a deal with a white supremacist Republican Congress not remotely interested in helping Dreamers. That'll show her.
It's something else when you consider, to my knowledge, not a single person has actually expressed disappointment at the result.We're in the political equivalent of having a sports riot in the winning city
The only reason it's bad is because it's a statement from Pelosi. She doesn't pass the all important purity test so it's fuck her and her decades of work for the party.I'm not seeing what's wrong with that Pelosi statement? I'm glad we are getting some new, young blood, but she is literally just doing a write up of someone she has worked with for 15 years. Can we criticize her for actual fuck shit, like the statement directed at Auntie Maxine?
Weren't they willing to roll on Dreamers for something else? Obviously Trump ditched them. But her and Chuck caught heat for it rightfully. Don't be disingenuous.Yes, fuck the woman who delivered an eight-hour speech trying to help you but couldn't broker a deal with a white supremacist Republican Congress not remotely interested in helping Dreamers. That'll show her.
I mean she's actually a "far left progressive" I can get behind because by all accounts she actually put in the work on the ground to connect with people and build support for her candidacy, the stuff that far left candidates actually need to do to win. She's demonstrating what works and I hope other people are watching and learning from it
You're fucking clueless.Yes, fuck the woman who delivered an eight-hour speech trying to help you but couldn't broker a deal with a white supremacist Republican Congress not remotely interested in helping Dreamers. That'll show her.
Some people express dissent by criticizing machine politics and the representatives who embody the system while others express their anger through backwards American flag avatars.We're in the political equivalent of having a sports riot in the winning city