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collige

Member
Oct 31, 2017
12,772
They're out of touch? Do you think most of the country believes people should be refused service based on their political views (or who they work for)?
Given that political leanings aren't protected in the vast majority of the country, yeah. Every regressive ass libertarian and republican in the country implicitly supports the right of businesses to refuse Sanders.
 

Van Bur3n

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
26,089
It is difficult to treat the orange man's minions with decency when said minions and the orange man himself show little to no ounce of decency to anyone.
 

ElectricBlanketFire

What year is this?
Member
Oct 25, 2017
31,876
Everyone making this a big deal are playing right into the White House's trap to divert attention away from child prison camps right now. I think we should stop focusing on this. There is limited bandwidth and Trump knows this well. Filling the available news and discussion bandwidth with what he wants to talk about is how he wins.

Yep. And the ignorant population eats it up.
People are so distracted that they've cited the child prison camps in this very thread.
 

sphagnum

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
16,058
Racking up those strikes, Bernie. Somehow I doubt Debs would be in favor of this "civility".
 

Eidan

Avenger
Oct 30, 2017
8,578
A powerful government official being asked to leave a private business because of their actions in that government sounds to me like a free society working properly. Sanders, Pelosi, and Schumer are all in the wrong.
 

Dream Machine

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,085
The fact that a compulsive liar and propagandist was politely asked to leave a restaurant is truly ghastly.

The riff-raff needs to get in line.
 

Reinhard

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,609
At their homes should be off limits, but anywhere else should be fair game. They need to feel some consequences to their actions.
 

Commedieu

Banned
Nov 11, 2017
15,025
Yeah. Fuck them all. This is why this country needs a reset. Politicians aren't capable of representing the common non millionaire citizens. I

Shs is disgusting. She lies to the public and doesn't do her job while justifying fascism.

Again. Fuck them all. This administration needs to be shut down everywhere. I hope her priest shows her the door.
 

cubanb

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,603
PASS! You can only back someone into a corner so much before they try something out of the "norms".
 

Commanderbuck

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
732
Yeah. Fuck them all. This is why this country needs a reset. Politicians aren't capable of representing the common non millionaire citizens. I

Shs is disgusting. She lies to the public and doesn't do her job while justifying fascism.

Again. Fuck them all.
Agreed, fuck all of them. Fuck being civil, fuck all them.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
76,219
Providence, RI
They're out of touch? Do you think most of the country believes people should be refused service based on their political views (or who they work for)?

The basis for your argument is wrong, PD.

The bolded is wrong. It has nothing to do with "political views."

It is because they are actively trying to hurt people in this country.

Fuck that wishy washy "opinion" bullshit.
 

effzee

Member
Oct 26, 2017
9,259
NJ
Time for Charles and Nancy to go. Spineless fucks.

Yeah not based on their policy positions or public service records but because they disagree with restaurants refusing service!

With all the horrible things happening in this country we see the D's band together on messaging over this? Fuck THEM.

Yeah I know right? They were so divided over kids in cages but they band together for this. Outrageous!

Democrats can you have a backbone for once in your life? Upholding civility is not making anyone feel like justice exists. It just makes you look like a doormat.

Yeah or maybe the citizens go vote?

Dems have no chance. They should be united and rallying. Not being divided over civility and good manners lol I wonder what would happen if during a televised political debate if someone just told Trump to go fuck himself and/or an orange cunt?

This is only a big issue for a day or 3. Like all controversies now. Not even worth it.

And btw I love that she was refused service. But if someone disagrees doesn't mean that this is the reason they should be voted out.
 

Commedieu

Banned
Nov 11, 2017
15,025
Agreed, fuck all of them. Fuck being civil, fuck all them.

They're telling you to calm down while kids are being put in out door fucking camps. It's pathetic. Maybe a good time for an actual third party. But this whole 1 sided being civil shit is done. It got us oh yeah...

Here.

Shit bugs me to no end. "Be civl. It's just a white supremacist running for political office!!!" Etc.etc.
 

Ferrio

Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,078
How did he split the base? He stumped hard for clinton post primary.

Not at first, he stoked the fires for awhile. When it was clear it wasn't going to happen that's when he started to bat for Clinton. At that point his base was too far into Bernie or Bust mode that it didn't matter.
 

winjet81

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,021
Civility and rule of process also gave us this:

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Lesson: you can't make honest deals with madmen.

Fuck that letting these people dine in peace: their policies are literally tearing families apart and destroying the disenfranchised.
 

BlueTsunami

Member
Oct 29, 2017
8,512
The lie being perpetuated here is that it was an uncivil act. As if she was harassed. The argument is based on a confrontation that did not happen. She was asked to leave and she obliged. And yet now she has a Secret Service detail and certain people are comparing this to 1950s America.
 

Thisman

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,841
You've dodged this question the multiple times you've been asked it in the multiple topics you've slunk in an out of but do you think the American Revolution was childish? Do you realize people like you were repeating the exact same shit at black peoples who marched, sat in and protested during civil rights? What exactly is the line for you? Because you call this childish when it's in response to the horrors the Trump administration has committed. What exactly has to happen where this form of standing up for your humanity is not "childish" in your eyes? Do people have to die or are you so feckless, you think even then restaurants are obliged to be nice to fucking monsters?

You really think this is the time to go armed against people at this time? Really? That was 100+ years ago. Society has moved on to make pressure on officials more pragmatic. You dont go gun ho like a 100-200 + years ago if a policy or set of policies were really bad. There are many rules and checks where peace and maturity can bring in results. All you and the folks who call for rude behavior are for pro anarchy in the face or crappy policies. If this President and his supporters are childish and act with policies which are rude, bad and wrong your response is dig your own hole and be as bad as them to fix it ? No one here is asking to compromise, no one here is saying both sides, no one here is saying let them do what they do. All folks are saying is use the tools available to you without going gun ho, all anarchy and accelerating the demise of the nation. If you want an armed civil war, this is how it begins. You want to be the mature person in the room and keep society moving forward or do you want to burn it all down because gop want a culture war, they want to use dirty means, they want it to be rude and physical. What happens when everyone is that way. You want to turn your nation into a failed state or do you want to use the same tools which won clinton and obama elections when you were all kumbaya we won we won, just 4 years after that you want to abandon maturity because you cant handle the heat ? This time right now is when you show if you are a leader and ready to move forward as a man or a woman or you want to contribute to the chaos and watch it burn. At the end of which when its all chaotic folks will go well maybe if we just won more elections instead of getting dirt and blood on our hands
 

lmcfigs

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
12,091
Not at first, he stoked the fires for awhile. When it was clear it wasn't going to happen that's when he started to bat for Clinton. At that point his base was too far into Bernie or Bust mode that it didn't matter.
They were so far gone, the vast majority of them voted for her.
 

Commanderbuck

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
732
They're telling you to calm down while kids are being put in out door fucking camps. It's pathetic. Maybe a good time for an actual third party. But this whole 1 sided being civil shit is done. It got us oh yeah...

Here.

Shit bugs me to no end. "Be civl. It's just a white supremacist running for political office!!!" Etc.etc.
I'm with you, I'm so tired of the bullshit. I'm not being civil with any of these chucklefucks. They all need to be held responsible. If that means SHS can't eat out, fine she doesn't deserve it. I'm tired of acting like these folks aren't terrible people.
 

Zip

Member
Oct 28, 2017
4,028
Spineless cowards. Leaning towards them just going to protect themselves as the rich upper class who fear any actual repercussions for the games they play. As miniscule as this was.

I can only hope they just mean not to support such actions openly for fear of inviting mounting anarchy. But that feels pretty thin.
 

linkboy

Member
Oct 26, 2017
13,715
Reno
Civility has given McConnel 2 SCOTUS seats btw.

Exactly.

Civility and meeting someone in the middle doesn't work when one side (and this is key) isn't willing to meet you in the middle.

If Democrats want to continue to lose elections, then by all means, continue to try and play nice with Republicans (they already don't give a shit about you if you're a Democrat, so they'll just continue to ignore you).

It's time for the Democratic party to take the gloves off and start punching back.

The days of civility and playing nice ended when Donald fucking Trump was elected president.
 

Tomohawk

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,014
Not at first, he stoked the fires for awhile. When it was clear it wasn't going to happen that's when he started to bat for Clinton. At that point his base was too far into Bernie or Bust mode that it didn't matter.
Welcome to primaries, if Bernie told you to vote Hillary over trump after the primary and you didn't listen you're an idiot. Bernie or bust isn't as big as people thought. Russian bots were actively perpetuating that narritive.
 

SaintBowWow

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,085
These three are absolutely right and all the pro anarchy , pro rude folks are absolutely wrong . Most of era will obviously angrily mockingly disagree with this but the time is not to be childish but to vote. Acting out emotionally will only embolden the Trump deplorables. You folks might think this is a winning strategy but its not. Society should be civilized enough to counter policy and laws with elections and due pressure without losing your ground.

The right play is just to fucking ignore it. Let Waters say her piece, let liberals vent, and wait for the next news cycle. Party leaders stepping in to admonish their own side is not a good look, especially when the GOP is routinely getting away with pretending they're completely oblivious to the news in order to avoid doing the same for their allies.
 

Mesoian

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 28, 2017
26,555
They know it can as easily happen to them.
You're god damn right.

"Stop doing it to them, because this could have been me with a roll of the dice"

Fuck off.

Why are they even wasting time talking about this? Its bait. Talk about the camps.

Because it's something that could happen to them in the future very easily.

Like, the restaurant shit is something that could actually happen TO them, not someone they know, not those people over there. It's something that could be THEIR problem.

So they'll wag their finger at you and tell you to stop it. Because it scares them.
 
Oct 29, 2017
5,354
Ah here's more of that Democrat Decorum™. In this age of Donald Fucking Trump I sure do love the opposition party taking the time to tone-police.
 

Microsoft SM Hunert Smoke

Alt-Account
Banned
Nov 13, 2017
131
Lol wait wait wait

hold on a second.

So is this the dems giving up not that the other justice retied? Because since that announcement I've seen like 40 politicians on the democrat side reverse on their stances.
 

ElectricBlanketFire

What year is this?
Member
Oct 25, 2017
31,876
You really think this is the time to go armed against people at this time? Really? That was 100+ years ago. Society has moved on to make pressure on officials more pragmatic. You dont go gun ho like a 100-200 + years ago if a policy or set of policies were really bad. There are many rules and checks where peace and maturity can bring in results. All you and the folks who call for rude behavior are for pro anarchy in the face or crappy policies. If this President and his supporters are childish and act with policies which are rude, bad and wrong your response is dig your own hole and be as bad as them to fix it ? No one here is asking to compromise, no one here is saying both sides, no one here is saying let them do what they do. All folks are saying is use the tools available to you without going gun ho, all anarchy and accelerating the demise of the nation. If you want an armed civil war, this is how it begins. You want to be the mature person in the room and keep society moving forward or do you want to burn it all down because gop want a culture war, they want to use dirty means, they want it to be rude and physical. What happens when everyone is that way. You want to turn your nation into a failed state or do you want to use the same tools which won clinton and obama elections when you were all kumbaya we won we won, just 4 years after that you want to abandon maturity because you cant handle the heat ? This time right now is when you show if you are a leader and ready to move forward as a man or a woman or you want to contribute to the chaos and watch it burn. At the end of which when its all chaotic folks will go well maybe if we just won more elections instead of getting dirt and blood on our hands
She was denied service at a restaurant and comped for her food.
 

Skinny Pete

Member
Nov 2, 2017
2,444
It's time for all 3 of them to GTFO. Sanders was asked nicely by the owner to leave, she wasn't thrown out on her ass by a bouncer or something. Fuck Trump's cabinet/stooges. They all deserve to hear it every day (for the rest of their lives).