No one is forgetting about the kids in camps because they took 15 seconds to respond to Sanders getting kicked out of a restaurant.
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Bernie Sanders, Pelosi and Schumer Find Common Ground: SHS should be allowed to Dine in Peace
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She's not wrong. We should be pushing back and protesting government officials wherever we want. It's insane to me that it's even a question. Republicans are trying to make protesting against GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS seem unethical. It's fucking stupid. Of course she's right about it. If someone falls for the conservative narrative about never confronting cabinet members in public - they're an idiot. It's a ridiculous standard.
One of the things that eventually turned me off of Sanders was his blinders when it comes to making everything about economic inequality.
And we're done.
All these fucks are like football players. Outside the pitch, they're all friends and fuck the plebs.
Normally, I might agree. But these are not normal times. This is not a normal administration. I hope, for our collective sake, that the day never comes when they realize how wrong they are. Like when Chamberlain realized Appeasement had failed.
Bernie's take is stupid. As are the other puckered buttholes worried more about this happening to them than the kids taken from their families and put in cages.
As I was saying in another thread, something about this response is...off. It's counter to what I would expect, which would be either tacit approval, or silence. So, why in the hell are people running scared over the Sanders issue and Maxine's call to raise hell?
There has to be something brewing that is making people skittish about getting up into Republican faces. This is beyond worrying about keeping your seat or rocking the boat. There's more bad news out there, under the surface.
There has to be something brewing that is making people skittish about getting up into Republican faces. This is beyond worrying about keeping your seat or rocking the boat. There's more bad news out there, under the surface.
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I mean I'm pretty annoyed because yelling and being rude was certainly a feature of his side at the Nevada Primary Convention...
And he managed to come stronger against the Red Hen.
Proof positive that the elite look after their own in the end, regardless of their political affiliation.
This. Right. Here.
The bolded part more so.
The republican play for decades has been to move the needle more and more to the right. Democrats must be great at drawing lines in the sand, because they keep drawing and stepping over their own masterpieces time and time again. People are itching for a fight, or for someone to fight for them.
Republicans don't give a shit what the democrats think about them. Full stop.
I think people are starting to see just how badly divided this country is. All it would take is a spark to send us off into a dangerous place, an act of violence from the left. But how do you reconcile this fear with an administration that is actively plundering and hurting its citizens?
As they sit in the burnt ashes of what once was their legacy and country, career Democrats huddle and sobbingly whisper to themselves "it's all right, it's OK, at least we are the party of decorum"
They don't want it to happen to them. They're comfortable not being held accountable.
She's always been fire brand and atleast someone needs to talk about the consequences of being inhuman garbage.
Literally I was watching fox news last night and people said Maxine Waters was calling for violence and domestic terrorism (not even exaggerating). Republicans have no integrity and have no sense of moderation. That's why so many dems are afraid to confront them. This is what fox news viewers are being told - that confronting government officials in public is domestic terrorism.
I for one am shocked that career politicians would not like to be publicly taken to task for their political decisions that affect everyday people's lives.
Here's a thought, if politicians don't want to represent the people, don't run for office.
Here's a thought, if politicians don't want to represent the people, don't run for office.
All three expose their ignorance: they make this about "disagreeing" with people. It's not about fucking disagreeing with people unless you think so poorly of civil and human rights issues; that they're just something you either agree with or don't.
Fuck off with your "sea to shining sea" catch-phrase.
Fuck off with your "sea to shining sea" catch-phrase.
Didn't Bernie Sanders engage in civil disobedience in his youth? It seems inappropriate to chide them now especially when the Republicans will show far less, err, nuance in their discussions on this.
MLK's letter from a Birmingham jail is also appropriate.
Also, folks should check out this episode of Citations Needed.
Citations Needed Episode 40: The Civility Fetish
I just posted the WaPo article on the harassment the Red Hen is receiving as a result of Sarah Sanders naming them- https://www.resetera.com/threads/ou...-ire-on-social-media-come-to-life-wapo.51951/
A big part of the Schumer/Pelosi statements is a necessity of saying "don't imitate Trump & co" and distancing the Dem party from the Right Wing's insane behavior.
Bernie Sander's statement is directly about the Red Hen ownership, though. He's up for re-election, and it shows.
A big part of the Schumer/Pelosi statements is a necessity of saying "don't imitate Trump & co" and distancing the Dem party from the Right Wing's insane behavior.
Bernie Sander's statement is directly about the Red Hen ownership, though. He's up for re-election, and it shows.
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What you are seeing is the bullshit "outsider" disguise coming off the career politician.
And we know why. It's crazy that we have Trump as president and a black woman says what a lot of people are feeling and is completely demonized but her own party. So typical of Democrats. They are lucky the alternative are just evil or they would have even less support.
Yeah, it's disappointing how many Democrats of all stripes are handling this, and Bernie's response is especially bad.
There is a difference between pushing back and protesting. refusing service in a private personal setting isnt what you call push back and protest.
Sorry, its two different Sanders' in both sentences, I'll clarify.
Definitely disagree. if boycotting is a form of protest, then surely refusing service is also.
I don't actually have a problem with Pelosi's statement, it's the right tone to take to not give folks like SHS the martyr material they crave, but Bernie and Schumer can both go fuck themselves with their "it's just politics" bullshit. They're doing nothing but contributing to lowering the bar as to what is acceptable to debate and placing vulnerable groups in danger.
The amount of vitriol Bernie receives around here never ceases to amaze me. And people of age it seems. You would have me fooled thinking these 3 actually support SHS's ideology.
I think it's totally fine to hate their stance on this and I'm with you on the civility bs, but yalls hate is rooted in something deeper.
I think it's totally fine to hate their stance on this and I'm with you on the civility bs, but yalls hate is rooted in something deeper.
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The worst.
I debated on if to make this thread just about him, but thought that also highlighting how he's basically acting like the people he thinks are what's wrong with the Democratic party to be a worthwhile endeavor, but at the same time it's taken away from his words and how fucking ridiculous they are especially in light of how a lot of things played out in 2016
Our hate is rooted in the fact that we're beyond frustrated with how people have been treated like animals, and the people who are supposed to have our back instead offer empty platitudes for the sake of playing nice.
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He's up for re-election in the second most white, second most rural state in the country.
You can take the old man out of Vermont, but you can't take the half-century of learned political habits coming from representing the second most white, second most rural state out of the old man.
Considering a lot of the recent "incivility" is being carried out by DSA members, Sanders maybe ought to think about what democratic socialism actually means to him
