If it makes you feel any better, this isn't just a ranked problem.
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Paladins |OT| Champions of the Realm
- Thread starter Grimminski
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If it makes you feel any better, this isn't just a ranked problem.
Man, I played a ton of overwatch a while back and bought this on a whim on my Switch. It's really great, I am very much enjoying it.
Yeah, but it doesn't really bother me there to be honest.
Just seems like right now, I either have really close games or get absolutely steamrolled, and when we get steamrolled my team don't do anything to compensate what's happening. They either run right back in as soon as they respawn (and die) or quit playing.
I don't even mind losing if I can have a good game. Potentially learning something and having some fun in a close match, but as my team mates tend to lose spirit as soon as we start doing poorly, it just snowballs into a loss where there's nothing interesting happening anymore.
Hahaha,that's pretty normal in ranked, it took me two weeks get to platinun V playing with strangers so I learned my lesson and now I only play ranked with a friend with a combo of damage+ flank or tank+healer
Even when I put in crazy amounts of work, we're still losing. I guess I could have been a better healer, but that's best damage and most kills with a support character. What do I have to do to win a game? That's like 10 losses in a row now. :(
Even when I put in crazy amounts of work, we're still losing. I guess I could have been a better healer, but that's best damage and most kills with a support character. What do I have to do to win a game? That's like 10 losses in a row now. :(
In this case the problem was your flank and try to choose a damage when your team already have a healer,damage its indispensable to kill any tank.
Yeah looks like your Maeve was just accomplishing nothing, and two healers and a tank sounds like a comp that is gonna have a really hard time securing kills, ESPECIALLY on tanks who are just gonna sit on objectives. The tyra and Khan death numbers look like your frontline was just getting completely rolled over, while theirs was not.
Pip is one of the top damaging healers with the right Talent though. Super can be invaluable as well.
Definitely looks like Maeve wasn't pulling her weight as the main flank. Tyra probably could have pulled better damage numbers as well if she used her fire bomb wisely. To that end, she should have gone with Burn Monster (as Tyra almost always should until they nerf the damn thing). The lifesteal talent is swiftly countered by one level of Cauterize. Given how little healing Khan has, I'm guessing he was either quite lonely on the point or rarely used his battle cry.
Definitely looks like Maeve wasn't pulling her weight as the main flank. Tyra probably could have pulled better damage numbers as well if she used her fire bomb wisely. To that end, she should have gone with Burn Monster (as Tyra almost always should until they nerf the damn thing). The lifesteal talent is swiftly countered by one level of Cauterize. Given how little healing Khan has, I'm guessing he was either quite lonely on the point or rarely used his battle cry.
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Eventually managed to get a win last night. Though it's a testament to the people I'm playing with that I'm top damage with Barik. Absolutely a hard carry. 53 eliminations, 27 killstreak while the rest of my team were dropping like flies.
I don't even play Barik or want to play Barik it's just he's the only tank I know how to play that wasn't banned and I wanted to win a game for once. Maybe I should just main Barik. Our Drogoz and Seris were especially poor performers.
I don't even play Barik or want to play Barik it's just he's the only tank I know how to play that wasn't banned and I wanted to win a game for once. Maybe I should just main Barik. Our Drogoz and Seris were especially poor performers.
Other than obvious stuff, like pick caut/wrecker depending on enemy team composition. Try to pick heroes that fit your team comp. If you have last pick of hero you have quite a bit of power to counterpick, etc. If you're one of the first picks, the odds are that someone may explicitly counterpick you so be cautious picking champs that are super vulnerable to specific strategies (e.g. if you pick Skye, don't be surprised if someone picks Strix to reveal you for the entire game).
Oh I didn't realize this was a draft pick so that's good to know. Should everyone pick caut/wrecker or just the dps/flankers and maybe tank?
I had a game like that yesterday. Guy moved right outside the spawn at sat there all game. When I died and viewed him he was just moving a tick every few secs.
If you watch pro matches it's often that 4/5 will pick caut or wrecker.
Decisions that should influence which you pick
- How many supports/tanks on opposing team
- Does your character have kit that can reduce healing anyway?
- How good is your character at spreading damage (e.g. Lian can easily spread damage across the entire team at once, therefore she's really effective with caut, Mal'damba is bad at spreading damage, therefore, bad with caut)
Screenshot from the opening of a pro league game (link)
Supports often like to buy cool down reduction in particular, because it means you can get more healing out onto your team, but generally speaking if you're damage or flank then caut/wrecker is almost an essential first pick. You outright lose games if your team don't get their purchases right early on.
Yeah I wont be touching it now that i've got my diamond chests.
Even when I put in crazy amounts of work, we're still losing. I guess I could have been a better healer, but that's best damage and most kills with a support character. What do I have to do to win a game? That's like 10 losses in a row now. :(
Unfortunately, like every other team game, the best you can do is perform to your best and rely on your teammates to play well in order to secure a win.
A one game sample is never going to be enough becaues it's entirely possible that one or more of your teammates played uncharacteristically bad during this specific match. If you are better than the average player at your current level, you will most likely climb, eventually. However, since you are not the only factor in determining the outcome of a winner, it will probably take a longer time than it would for you to normalize your ranking in Starcraft, for example.
I am climbing, slowly. It's just with the long matchmaking time and back and forth wins/losses it's quite a chore. :(
If you watch pro matches it's often that 4/5 will pick caut or wrecker.
Decisions that should influence which you pick
- How many supports/tanks on opposing team
- Does your character have kit that can reduce healing anyway?
- How good is your character at spreading damage (e.g. Lian can easily spread damage across the entire team at once, therefore she's really effective with caut, Mal'damba is bad at spreading damage, therefore, bad with caut)
Screenshot from the opening of a pro league game (link)
Supports often like to buy cool down reduction in particular, because it means you can get more healing out onto your team, but generally speaking if you're damage or flank then caut/wrecker is almost an essential first pick. You outright lose games if your team don't get their purchases right early on.
Wow thanks for the detailed response man. Looks like I need to do some research on what counters what and which characters are best with which traits.
get ready to find out people still dont know how to play this game
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Yeah, it's meant to get people to learn other characters.
During first pick you can ask your team to pick a character for you and then swap with them after the last pick.
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PSA: Definitely some free Diamond Chests to be earns on all platforms.
200 Eliminations grants 1 Chest
10 games played grants the other
200 Eliminations grants 1 Chest
10 games played grants the other
Ah, I really like it! I love sprinting up the tower and (trying!) getting the collectibles before anyone else!
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Yeah, okay.
So at least on PC the free diamond chests (200 elim/10 matches played) is valid, this can be done in bot matches. PS4 players should give this a try.
I got Dark Lord Torvald and Dune Crawler Cassie
So at least on PC the free diamond chests (200 elim/10 matches played) is valid, this can be done in bot matches. PS4 players should give this a try.
I got Dark Lord Torvald and Dune Crawler Cassie
I got Dark Lord too and Replicant Ying.
But i REALLY wanted Dune Crawler Cassie, i like that skin so much.
Does anybody want to start a team in the switch version I am tired of playing randoms. PM your FC and we can add up....also we need a discord
Sounds about right :\
Ranked is a big time investment. Long queue up time, long character banning/picking time, and generally long matches with people playing their best.
That sucks. Specially with the crashing on the Switch making it hard to get some games in. :(
No way, that's one of the smartest things they do. Against real players you'd just get slaughtered and people tend to quit if they don't get a win or two under their belt early.
Hold the phone. I just watched a NWR video and one of the developers flat out said Paladins has voice chat on Switch. Anyone try this out or know how to activate it?
EDIT: I just looked in the options and there's a voice volume. Uh, no one knows this game has voice chat. I haven't heard anyone talk.
EDIT: I just looked in the options and there's a voice volume. Uh, no one knows this game has voice chat. I haven't heard anyone talk.
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This is a bit extreme though, these bots are basically braindead lemmings, there's no real game being played and it doesn't really prepare you what playing against players is.
Sometimes that's less important than granting the player wins, as far as retention goes.
Game definitely needs a better tutorial though.
Yeah there's quite a few annoying things about the bots.
- You really do have to play against them for a long time. Getting to level 5 can take about 8 matches, and it only takes one or two for most players to become aware that they're facing bots.
- The bots are really bad. They don't even try to mimic human behaviour, they mostly run in a straight line towards the point and die. They're not accurate with their attacks either, so they're bad on all fronts.
- The bot AI is completely inappropriate for flankers because they never flank.
- Even if you party up with high level friends, you still can't play with real human players, you all get dragged into bot games.
I realized I was fighting bots because I got like 30 kills and not even dying once during an entire match, their names is also a good indicator.
I'm gonna fight through it because the game seems pretty good and I like the clean and slick interface.
Play of the game in Paladin's is always such ass. It doesn't seem take anything into account other than the kill/damage frequency. So often ends up in really crappy situations like Tyra dealing a significant amount of damage with a grenade, while getting a kill, or Victor spraying down two people.
In my last game I got a quad with Strix, and it got beaten out of play of the game by a Victor triple Spray. Sure, whatever.
In my last game I got a quad with Strix, and it got beaten out of play of the game by a Victor triple Spray. Sure, whatever.
I'm not sure what the criteria is for play of the game. One time I got it by killing one guy that was stopping the cart from moving into the capture point and thus winning the round. I thought that was different than what I usually see.
Sorry I have to bring this voice chat on Switch question again but this is somewhat important and something that really needs to be addressed. There just hasn't really been a good job of communicating voice chat on Switch. I rarely hear anyone play with chat on Fortnite on Switch and when I do talk to the few, no one knew you could use a wireless USB headset on Switch I'm docked mode.
There is a video from Nintendo World Report that has someone from Hi-Rez day that the Switch version of Paladins does have voice chat out of the box, and when fumbling through the options, I did see there was a voice volume on there. So far though, I haven't chat without anyone in that game. Have you guys tried it or are aware of anything different about this?
There is a video from Nintendo World Report that has someone from Hi-Rez day that the Switch version of Paladins does have voice chat out of the box, and when fumbling through the options, I did see there was a voice volume on there. So far though, I haven't chat without anyone in that game. Have you guys tried it or are aware of anything different about this?